Kenwood Kitchen Machines

The pin on which the head rises and falls.
If you look at the car head-on from the side of the bowl, then this pin sticks out on the left almost at the very end, that is, not where the control knobs are (on the right), but on the opposite side, on the contrary, on the left.

Well, he never gets out of my way. I'll take a picture

Ksyusha, thanks, but not this one. This is an emphasis, and I'm asking about the axis on which the bed and the reclining part, like scissors on a screw, move. That is, if you look from the side and imagine that these are scissors, then the "screw" in the middle sticks out of the body or not?
Now, if you look at your second photo, then on the left, almost under the wall on the rising part, does it stick out or not? And if it sticks out, how much mm?

Ol, I have a pin at the top clearly between two records (I don't know how to call them). Everything is smooth, nothing appears anywhere.

Ksyusha, I'm sorry, I tortured you, but I don't really know how to explain
I'm asking about this axis (circled in red). I have it sticking out almost 2 cm, but it didn't seem to stick out like that before, or I didn't pay attention

Wow. At me it finally does not stick out.

So I think that he shouldn't stick around ...
Probably will have to disassemble

Added on Tuesday 07 Feb 2017 00:32

How long has he got out like that?

I don't know, I only noticed it a week ago. And by the way, it continues to work normally. It's good that I saw, now I need to fix it. I’m just thinking whether to call the master herself or to call him.

If by herself, then the main thing is that there are no extra parts left

It's good that I saw, now I need to fix it. I’m just thinking whether to call the master herself or to call him.

This is the axle on which the hinge (spring) is held.
If you do not get out much, gently knock on it to enter it back.
It's a matter of a minute.

I'm afraid!

I'm afraid!

Do not be afraid
HE does not bite

If you do not get out much, gently knock on it to enter it back.
It's a matter of a minute.

And in what position to knock, reclined or working?

Biju immediately ran off for an audit to her sufferer. Not until everything is in place.

And in what position to knock, reclined or working?

Better reclined, less tension.
This is normal, the axis sometimes creeps out from vibration.
I can make out my km010 as akm-74

It seems to me that it is better in the fixed. Tomorrow I'll quietly try, but if it doesn't work out right away, then I won't rape.
I will report on the result.
And I ask everyone who has had this to share their experience.

It seems to me that it is better in the fixed.

You decide.
BUT, in a fixed spring, in tension, it rests on an axis which must be pushed back, it is even better to put it on its side and slightly turning the axis back and forth with small pliers, push it back into place

I'm asking about this axis

did not even suspect of its existence. And my Kesha is so worth it that I would not notice in my life. Thanks for writing. I will keep an eye on her

Oh, girls, I just called Kenwood-BT, wanted to order a soufflake (they will be on sale at the end of the month, so they promise), and asked when they promise a new induction? I was told that it will cost ... 283,000 !!!! And they also said that they increased the power by 200 watts and added backlighting, and that's it ... here I sit and think, after all the research and careful analysis of the Internet by Miranda and other girls, that they are not entirely competent in this matter. But about the price ...

[LenaPena)]

LenaPena), I think that they are not competent for the price either
Even if we imagine that the euro exchange rate is 70 rubles, this is more than 4 thousand euros.

Three times more expensive than Europe?
So even the iPhone was not sold.

And what about the timing?

I report along the axis.
I tried to correct with a hammer in 3 positions: lower fixed, free, upper fixed, - in this sequence.
The first 2 attempts were unsuccessful - the axis did not even budge. And the third, in the upper fixed state, turned out to be successful
So, if someone has the same bad, you have to try all 3 methods, but start with the top fixed one. And it is better to do this with a mallet or at least wrap the hammer with a rag so as not to scratch a family friend.
Thank you all for your help and support!

[Miranda!]

Miranda!! Today I find out about the new Kenwood in Spain ..... Children help me ... what we and they have in the search engines is a big difference !!!

And the third, in the upper fixed state, turned out to be successful

What was told to you from the very beginning

Does it turn out that it is easier for a car to stand with its head raised?
Well, since the spring is lowered, it is tensioned.

[Miranda]

Miranda, but they didn’t say about the timing, right away the price was head-on ... I was dumbfounded and didn’t ask again)) apparently, they decided that if the price was named, it would not matter when they were, and whether they would be at all

Does it turn out that it is easier for a car to stand with its head raised?

Not quite sure what easier means?
In the upper position, the machine is less stable, the motor and gearbox move up and back.
But if you need to disassemble and get to the engine and control unit, then yes, that's the only way.

[me]

Better reclined, less tension.

It seems to me that it is better in the fixed.

in the upper fixed state, it turned out to be successful

What was told to you from the very beginning

what me and it was said from the start

And it seems to me that you are about the same provision in different words.

- Hello godfather! Are you fishing?
- No, I'm fishing!
- Aaaa, but I thought you were fishing ...

What I said from the very beginning

Well, then we did not understand each other
for me, the fixation exists only in the lower position
either in working position and locked or completely open

Added on Tuesday 07 Feb 2017 10:48 PM

By the way, I surrounded one factory glitch in the engine if the car is well edged, then one of the "brushes" sinks in the extreme position and the engine does not work. It is treated by disassembling and removing the engine protective cover.

[Vlad_Ru]

Vlad_Ru, what is your car model?

Already saw in the profile. KM010. Can you look at the medium speed jack when working? Is there any beating about the axis of rotation? On mine there is something like a parallel misalignment (between the bridging axis and the slot). Or you can say a kind of eccentricity. Moreover, it is significant, about 1 mm.

[Vlad_Ru]

By the way, I surrounded one factory glitch in the engine if the car is well edged, then one of the "brushes" sinks in the extreme position and the engine does not work. It is treated by disassembling and removing the engine protective cover.

Vlad_Ru, in order not to get to the treatment, explain what should never be done and what to watch out for. You are welcome.

[Vlad_Ru]

in order not to get to treatment, explain what should never be done and what should be avoided

More like a factory defect, or contamination of the brush assembly (if the machine worked very hard), or the brushes are not native. Here I think you can not advise anything. Under normal conditions, this malfunction is practically impossible.
Vlad_Ruhaven't examined the brush shaft? maybe it is deformed or is there some kind of burr? or with a spring what is wrong? Do not disassemble every time))

Is there any beating about the axis of rotation? On mine there is something like a parallel misalignment (between the bridging axis and the slot). Or you can say a kind of eccentricity. Moreover, it is significant, about 1 mm.

Good!
One of these days I'll take a look, though I don't have attachments for this one, I'll try it visually.

Added on Tuesday 07 Feb 2017 11:24 pm

More like a factory defect, or contamination of the brush assembly (if the machine worked very hard), or the brushes are not native. Here I think you can not advise anything. Under normal conditions, this malfunction is practically impossible.
Vlad_Ru, have you examined the brush shaft? maybe it is deformed or is there some kind of burr? or with a spring what is wrong? Do not disassemble every time))

No, this is not a marriage, but such a construction.
The mine and the "brushes" themselves are in perfect condition. The spring is also in good condition.

Added on Tuesday 07 Feb 2017 11:30 pm

Vlad_Ru, in order not to get to the treatment, explain what should never be done and what should be avoided. You are welcome.

Here the trick is simple, my car came by mail and if it is poorly fixed in the package, then with good lateral acceleration, the "brushes" just go over the edge.
In normal operation, this should not be the case, it appears only during transportation with poor packaging.
Again, I note that this will only be on new "brushes", if the machine has already worked well, then there should be no problems.

Brothers, we periodically have technical questions - malfunctions and their elimination, internal structure, etc.
In this regard, the question is: is there a need to create a separate topic for those. questions or does it all fit into the current theme "CM Kenwood"?

[Sergey01]

Sergey01, Thank you!

Vlad_Ru, Thank you!

In this regard, the question is: is there a need to create a separate topic for those. questions or does it all fit into the current theme "CM Kenwood"?

I think that you do not need a car that is reliable enough (especially the first versions) and all questions can be resolved here, so as not to search for different topics

It also seems to me that it is not necessary.
A normal general topic where we praise, scold and ask. Both for cooking and for the work of the CM itself.

But if in the profile "technician" it would still be possible to add "attachments", then I think it's not bad, then you can ask a specific participant what and how about the work of this one.

Guys, I'm a new person, and of course it's not for me to decide - but a separate technical topic without water would be very useful! And just because the device is reliable, the topic will be small and, if necessary, it is easy to run through it! And there is a lot of water in the chatterbox and while you find what you need it will be easier to ask .. IMHO.
And on a technical topic, just about springs, defective adapters, and so on.

About the guarantee. I'm also trying to understand everything .. On the site m-video, the warranty for the car is written for 2 years. In the m-video itself, in one store I was told 5 years, in the second just a "check guarantee" how much is not clear. On the coupon inside the car (certifiate delonghi) - it is written on the car for 60 months. Then what does the "iron guarantee of 5 years" have to do with it .. If the certificate contains 5 years .. Just a marketing ploy? (and apparently not very successful)
And also tell me pliz - you need to fill out this certificate? To put the seller's stamp, etc.? And then recently it seems that everywhere the guarantee on the check has become, I usually do not use it on trifles .. And here the device is expensive and the guarantee is long, so what can be worth filling in just in case? (otherwise the check may fade for example)

Added Wednesday 08 Feb 2017 10:59 am

And yet, how much guarantee is there on the attachments? There are no separate warranty coupons in the boxes with nozzles ... is it also obtained by check?

There is no guarantee for the tips. The girls had problems and it turned out that the guarantees did not apply to them.
Certificate (sent by email) for 5 years, for those who bought cars earlier. Then the warranty card did not have a figure of 60 months. You don't need it.

On the site m-video, the warranty for the car is written for 2 years. In the very m-video in one store I was told 5 years

The warranty period is indicated in the warranty card, and only there.

"check guarantee"

You always need to fill out a warranty card for expensive equipment.

Then where does the "iron guarantee of 5 years"

I think registration is needed for those who have less than 5 years in the warranty card

And also tell me pliz - you need to fill out this certificate? To put the seller's stamp, etc.?

The seller's stamp is required, but you can fill it in yourself. But it is still the seller's responsibility. I once made a mistake when filling out the warranty card for the puncher, because there were many numbers, I had to go to change the coupon. And this is too much time. Let the seller do what he is supposed to do, and what is paid for.

There is no guarantee on the tips

Here you can argue. After all, if the warranty period is not established, then it is established by the law on consumer protection. I have a dough rolling machine (bought in mvideo) - 1 year. For nozzles included in the kit, the warranty period is spelled out separately in the warranty card.

[Vlad_Ru]

But if in the profile "technician" it would still be possible to add "attachments", then I think it's not bad, then you can ask a specific participant what and how about the work of this

Vlad_Ru, we also have such a topic - "Kenwood kitchen machine - working with attachments".

[Vlad_Ru]

Vlad_Ru, we also have such a topic - "Kenwood kitchen machine - working with attachments".

I think it meant that you need the ability to choose in your personal account, including attachments, and not just what kind of multicooker, kettle and KM do you have ... so that when entering a person's profile you can see what attachments he uses and ask a question in PM.

And I am against a separate topic.

Firstly, without water it will not work. Because.
Secondly, I'm not sure that everyone will subscribe, which means that people with an urgent question will run here - ahhh, no one has answered me for 20 minutes ...
Thirdly, more often they will write here anyway than in a short topic, purely psychologically deciding that it is faster / more familiar here. Not always they ask about nozzles in a separate topic about nozzles.
Fourth, there are not many technical issues, the same spring for the first time in the history of the topic.

You can argue here.

Maybe. But which of the girls applied to the guarantee with the dough rollers and they were refused.

Help with the choice, according to the Mvideo promotion, buy 6 attachments of your choice and get the Kenwood KVC5000T Kitchen Machine as a gift, it turns out that with an average price of a nozzle of 5990, this is cheaper than the km itself. Should I consider this proposal?

it turns out that with an average price of 5990 nozzles, this is cheaper than the km itself. Should I consider this proposal?

No, of course, why cheapen :)) It is better to buy without a stock for a normal price ...

Just kidding. Of course worth it! This is an excellent and really sooo advantageous offer :) Well, of course, IMHO .. If this particular car suits you, then this is a great opportunity to save money. I bought one a week ago, I'm very happy. And at the same time, I immediately bought almost all the necessary attachments ... At other prices, I would think strongly and have been planning for a long time ...

I think it meant that you need the ability to choose in your personal account, including attachments, and not just what kind of multicooker, kettle and KM do you have ... so that when entering a person's profile you can see what attachments he uses and ask a question in PM.

Exactly!
Because these kitchen machines have personal belongings no less than the machines themselves

Added Wednesday 08 Feb 2017 3:03 PM

Can you look at the medium speed jack when working? Is there any beating about the axis of rotation? On mine there is something like a parallel misalignment (between the bridging axis and the slot). Or you can say a kind of eccentricity. Moreover, it is significant, about 1 mm.

Sergey, I looked, I have the same thing, there is a slight backlash.
But as far as I remember (when I took it apart) there is an ordinary gear and this vibration during the transmission of rotation will not greatly affect.
If necessary, I can remove the lid and take a photo.