Kenwood Kitchen Machines

Monechka, kmm 050

Thank you! She is already on my list)))

Monechka, consider the KMS 570 Premier - 4.6L bowl, power - 1000w, all metal, the ability to adjust the height of the attachments.

And I added it, I will read the models to compare. The difference in price is 20 thousand) What is the difference between 050 and 570?

Really.
Mixer Bomann / Klatronic. Cheap, angry, iron.

But surely there are pitfalls there) They can't help but be for such a price)))

Hurrah! It's good that they fixed it.

Did you have something with a socket for nozzles?

Yes, a piece of the rod that held the meat grinder broke off.

[Monechka]

The difference in price is 20 thousand) What is the difference between 050 and 570?

MonechkaDifferences: 050 - power 1400W, attachments: K-shaped and stainless steel hook; 570 - 1000W power, attachments: K-shaped and hook made of metal and silumin coating, their weight is less compared to stainless steel. For your stated needs, 570 is very, very sufficient, reviews about it here are only positive. I also have a Premier, a bowl of 6.7 liters, he kneads the dough for me, whips eggs and whites, mixes everything I need, I am very pleased with the meat grinder and food processor. I replaced the K-shaped hook with a stainless steel version and bought a flexi. Well, 050 is, of course, the king.

surely there are pitfalls

Clathronic is the simplest one, with functions - to knead, whip, mix, I have been using it for almost 3 years, I will not say anything bad about it, but I will not compare it with the Premier, it is not correct.
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My advice to you, if buying 050 does not make a dent in your family budget, take it. More budgetary, but very good 570, no doubt, a very good option. And Klatronic is at your discretion, if you bake pies once a month, a cake, casseroles once every six months, then why not.
Good luck with your choice!

Added on Tuesday 24 Jan 2017 12:07 PM

Yes, I did not say that the 050 has flexi attachments in the set.

Yes, I did not say that 050 has flexi attachments in the set

As well as a juicer, meat grinder and blender, yes ..))

[Bijou]

As well as a juicer, meat grinder and blender, yes ..))

Bijou, we are talking about KMC 050.

But surely there are pitfalls there) They can't help but be for such a price)))

There are no pitfalls there - good technology, reliable.
We have a branch for them.
Here, in general, according to the choice of KM
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1007.0

And here by KM Bohmann / Klatronic
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=426690.0

And here is a thread on all topics about KM
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=126.0

Here's everything about kneaders:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=187

Good luck!

Bijou, we are talking about KMS 050

I guessed it.) I have one.

But today I have a question: is it possible to put flour into biscuit and cake dough with a K-shaped nozzle at minimum speed, or is it possible to use a spatula from the bottom up in the old fashioned way?

Anyone can be used in a cupcake, the main thing is that it does not last long, because the baking powder may work ahead of time, and in a biscuit, be careful not to plant proteins.

Girls, family, it's me again!
And again for advice) I understand that the branch of Kenwood fans, I love him too, but something needs to be decided !!!
There is an opportunity to spend points) about 20 thousand), respectively, I can choose in the Technopark with a discount for these 20 thousand.
Let me remind you that no additional attachments are needed at all, all the equipment is excellent separately!
There is no choice from the Kenwoods - only Kenwood 0WKM 336002, you will have to pay 8 thousand with a penny. But the soul does not lie to him.
There is Bork - the price of the surcharge will be 29.900
There are also Electrolux EKM4900 or EKM4000 - the surcharge will be about 15 thousand.

But I still have an idea to order what I want!
Namely - Kenwood KMC 050 from abroad with delivery will turn out 34 thousand. Can you sell a meat grinder and a juicer? It will be cheaper))):
And Kenwood KMC570 - with delivery of 22 thousand.But the power is less and there is no flexi.But there is a meat grinder, which I don't need again ...

What to do then? What to choose, help people kind !!!

[Monechka]

Monechkaif nozzles are not needed can look at Bork? The girls praise him very much, but he is not noisy at all.

Monechka, if the attachments are not needed, can you look at Bork? The girls praise him very much, but he is not noisy at all.

Nozzles are not needed at all (except for those with which to knead), I reread all the topics (I didn’t find only Temko about Electrolux), Bomans disappeared right away, now I’m tormented between Kesha, Bork, Electrolux and Bosch)))

but you definitely do not need nozzles? I also thought so at first. And now it is FASTER for me to put a meat grinder on Kesha (he is on the table all the time) even for half a chicken breast and then wash the parts with handles! Can it be easier to sell that separately? and save space?

but you definitely do not need nozzles? I also thought so at first. And now it is FASTER for me to put a meat grinder on Kesha (he is on the table all the time) even for half a chicken breast and then wash the parts with handles! Can it be easier to sell that separately? and save space?

Unfortunately, Kesha (or whoever else) will not stand permanently in the kitchen, I will carry him from another room ... The kitchen is 6 meters, space is not just small, but catastrophically small, but I bake for the family and make ham-sausages))) So I will carry any mixer. But I'm not strained, honestly)))

[Vinochek]

Vinochek, agree! Monechka, think about attachments, read Temko. I can't imagine how I went through the harvesting period without a sieve, a high-speed grater, slicer and a cube. And in constant use, a multi-shredder and a food processor. And also a soufflake ... and a dough roll)

will not stand permanently in the kitchen

a year has passed ... and Kesha is on the table)))
but seriously, it's heavy enough to lug around. And you will quickly get tired of it, you will find a place for him, for example, on the windowsill and he will live there.

a year has passed ... and Kesha is on the table)))
but seriously, it's heavy enough to lug around. And you will quickly get tired of it, you will find a place for him, for example, on the windowsill and he will live there.

And mine nestled on the countertop, drove the multicooker.

a year has passed ... and Kesha is on the table)))
but seriously, it's heavy enough to lug around. And you will quickly get tired of it, you will find a place for him, for example, on the windowsill and he will live there.

Oh))) Not everything is so simple) the window sill is 15cm wide. And there is a free 50 * 50 space on the countertop, where I cook
I would like to decide on the brand and model ... My husband will carry it then

[Vinochek]

I agree with Vinochek, Zhenya, that Kesha is not disposed for all kinds of different movements. It's heavy, really! I twist it on the rug, if I put it.

In general, think a million times about whether you are ready (or not you) to invest a lot of money (for me) in a dough mixer.
The devil beguiled me, but in general it was necessary to turn on the mind. For example, I still regret it.

For example, I still regret it.

And I don’t regret it, I’m so dragged away from him, well, I’m just really, really dragged along, one of the most, most beloved and used things almost every day, how could I ever live without him.

In general, think a million times about whether you are ready (or not you) to invest a lot of money (for me) in a dough mixer.
The devil beguiled me, but in general it was necessary to turn on the mind. For example, I still regret it.

Why do you regret?
I bake my cakes, make hams, the bread maker bakes bread, and kneads the dough on dumplings and pizza in the same place (I also drag it out of the room, ok)))
I wanted compact and powerful. Moreover, there is an opportunity to take it cheaper.

[Monechka]

one of the most favorite and used almost every day things,

great!
The main thing is that there are eaters for these goodies.
I have, unfortunately.
So ... pampering. I should have left 020 for myself or a redhead.

Added Wednesday 25 Jan 2017 09:45 PM

Monechka, they don't eat my cakes, the bread maker makes bread for kneading, and small Boshik tries to make sausage.
Expensive! If 60 thousand are free, then, yes, but like me, who are sad and suffering, I would not advise. Very expensive!

Added Wednesday 25 Jan 2017 09:50 PM

And for me, it's still a very expensive car, which should be thought about repeatedly.
For example, I will not agitate and advise for her. Indeed, it is expensive if you do not deal with custom-made cakes or you have free money. Probably.

And I don’t regret it, I’m so dragged away from him, well, I’m just really, really dragged along, one of the most, most beloved and used things almost every day, how could I ever live without him.

and I trudge! used daily!
Sausages are just superb to make on it! (not on the first attempt I understood how to properly regulate the filling)

Sausages are just superb to make on it!

well, any Ken can do it just fine. I just talked about the induction pretzel.
If anything, then I'm sorry. Probably not the topic.

Monechka, they don't eat my cakes, the bread maker makes bread for kneading, and small Boshik tries to make sausage.
Expensive! If 60 thousand are free, then, yes, but like me, who are sad and suffering, I would not advise. Very expensive!

It turns out not 60 thousand ... So, I wrote the whole alignment:

There is an opportunity to spend points) about 20 thousand), respectively, I can choose in the Technopark with a discount for these 20 thousand.
Let me remind you that no additional attachments are needed at all, all the equipment is excellent separately!
There is no choice from the Kenwoods in the Technopark - only Kenwood 0WKM 336002, you will have to pay 8 thousand with a penny. But the soul does not lie to him.
There is Bork - the price of the surcharge will be 29.900
There are also Electrolux EKM4900 or EKM4000 - the surcharge will be about 15 thousand.

But I still have an idea to order what I want!
Namely - Kenwood KMC 050 from abroad with delivery will turn out 34 thousand. Can you sell a meat grinder and a juicer ??? It will be cheaper))):
And Kenwood KMC570 - with delivery of 22 thousand. But there is less power and no flexi. But there is a meat grinder, which I don't need again ...

[Monechka]

Monechka , if you firmly decided "you need a car, you can't do without it, and this is not a momentary wish, but a real need" and want Kenwood or Electrolux, then look elsewhere 🔗... On the "Kneading machines" branch, the owners are satisfied with the Electrolux Assistants, there is a video in YouTube. But these machines are still stationary and cannot be applied from another room, and the husband is not always at home. In the second part of our branch there is a photo - the placement of cars on 5 sq. m. Good luck to you!

And I don’t regret it, I’m so dragged away from him, well, I’m just really, really dragged along, one of the most, most beloved and used things almost every day, how could I ever live without him.

I will subscribe under every word!
I love it, I can use it almost every day, let's say - out of 10 days, 9 is definitely in work.

There was no real need, because I do not bake to order, I have few eaters, and there are no small children. And now I don’t understand how I didn’t see this necessity, now it’s very necessary, I don’t know how I was without it. Or even so, I began to do a lot, because a dough mixer appeared, and that used to be laziness with my hands. He somehow inspires and pleases, any recipe - in pleasure, excitement and satisfaction from the process and result.

A momentary wishlist to shake "kill, but take it out, even borrow, even on credit" was also not. I wanted about a year and a half or more, and it was induction. Many times I considered other options, several times I was tempted to buy a cheaper kneader or for a stock. If I saw any dough mixer at a visit, then I matsala with my hands, examined, mentally compared. But I understood that I would buy a cheap or medium-priced mixer, I might not calm down, which means that in the end I would pay 2-3 times more - buying and selling compromise options. Therefore, I bought only a Boshik combine, not a dough mixer. And then the money was dug up, and the case turned up.

After almost 7 months of ownership, I can say that a dough mixer or planetary mixer is a necessary thing on the farm. Any! Even if there are few eaters. And especially if there is no bread maker.Because it turned out to be an incredible economy of time and effort - he kneads / whips himself, while standing / sitting, doing something else. And about the strength it is clear, my back is not very healthy, someone else, plus from a certain age it is better to take care of yourself, or at least start to take care.

But how expensive a kneader is - here according to the wallet, ambitions, desire and internal itching. And understanding why it might come in handy in a year or two. Do you need attachments. Because a thing for many years.

I don’t regret that I spent on the car and the attachments. Exactly the one she wanted. Although if all this is added, then more of my z. etc. and expensive purchase. But induction Kenwood not only fully met my expectations, but exceeded them. All the performances, and even dreams from the series "I'll buy and live, and everything will change" - happened (some things that I buy, then disappoint with this very thing - that has not healed, has not changed, did not sparkle with fireworks, better / smarter / thinner / stronger / more talented / culinary / etc. did not become, peace in the whole world did not come, then I get angry and offended, at things and at myself, that the consumer is a fool, eyes and hands grabbing, and the thing is a fool, eyes would not seen).

Added Thursday, 26 Jan 2017 03:43

For example, now many have started a pasta machine.
It is 3 times, if not more, taking into account nozzles for KM, cheaper than induction, that is, 3 times more affordable.

But in the end I would definitely be offended at her, because I will rarely make pasta, all the time I will think that I would do no worse with a noodle cutter, that the money paid would be enough for 3-4 years to buy the best pasta, which would be better I did various tests in a good clinic with this money. And so on. I would be angry and would not use, because each use would resemble. I know that for myself.

And I don't buy it for either 15 thousand or 20. Although I read the thread with interest. And for 5 thousand I would have bought, probably. Because everything has its own price, not the one on the price tag, but which you personally are ready to give for a thing with such and such a possible scenario of use specifically by you, with such and such a degree of need and desire to possess.

Now, if an American unknown grandfather leaves an inheritance to me, then I will buy, why should I be trifling here

By the way, about HP and bread. I also used to knead in HP, but I baked it in the oven (this way the bread tastes better, smelly and does not crumble like that). Now, after kneading in Kesh, the bread is even better! I am lazy and I rarely knead for more than 5 minutes, but this is enough to see the airiness and softness of the bread afterwards. For example, in a family only a child eats bread. Every day I make 0.5 kg of flour and give 1/3 to my neighbor (we have barter: she gives me flour, and I give her bread). HP (and I have two) gave it to my mother (one home, the other to the dacha). And about the place ... it will always be found, there would be a desire. If I'm not mistaken, Dopleta had a photo of her miniature kitchen, where the devices were like in a good store!

And my bread worsened with the appearance of Kesha.
Mixes too well (if you forget it for a long time). And I make bread exclusively long-lasting / cold, a maximum of grams per pound. And if before the gluten during the entire period of management developed to an optimal state just towards the end, now it is normal immediately after mixing, and then it only deteriorates.
From this, the moral - for my daily bread, you need to knead worse.))

[Bijou]

I make bread exclusively long-lasting / cold, a maximum of grams per pound. And if before the gluten during the entire period of management developed to an optimal state just towards the end, now it is normal immediately after mixing, and then it only deteriorates.

Bijou, excuse me, but I did not understand a thing, somehow everything is vague for me. Is it possible to find out the algorithm of your batch, pliz.

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, here, as it were, off topic, but in short - the longer the bread dough wanders, the tastier for me. You can ferment it in the refrigerator on the top shelf (sometimes I do it), but then the sweetness I don't need appears. And in order to get a rich taste and aroma (that is, a long fermentation), you have to reduce the yeast. Dry for half a kilo of flour and 330 water (+20 plant.butter) I take about half a spoon from a bread machine, weighed - 1 gram. Well, I don't heat the dough, of course. While it is lying (in general, it takes about 12 hours between mixing the ingredients and the end of baking) - I fold it several times.

When the dough is weakly kneaded, in the process of these folding it is clearly visible how it becomes smoother and more elastic each time, it begins to squeak under the fingers. When baking in a slow cooker, it holds the dome well, because gluten reaches its maximum development by the beginning of baking.

But when the dough is well kneaded, then it rushes into battle right now - here it is so smooth, here I folded it for the first time and it is elastic, so I continue to fold it and it starts to break under my fingers - the peak of gluten elasticity has passed. But its smell and taste are not enough for me, and even the yeast has not yet multiplied there properly. As a result, my bread became heavier. Or normal, but then I bake it ahead of time and its taste-aroma is simpler, looks like bread from HP, and the crumb is too white and fine-pored ... In short, everything is not so.

From this it is concluded that I need to knead a smooth dough in a quick dough, such as pies / rolls / buns. Well, put more yeast there, and add sugar ...

Somehow I have a story with bread.

[Bijou]

as if off topic

Bijou, just on the topic, even burning, the right dough is the right bread. Thank you, I understood everything.

[Bijou]

Bijou, very interesting, thanks!

I have the simplest bread in lyubiks - from flour and water, without kneading, with a low yeast content and with cold dilution.
For such bread, Kenwood is not needed at all
By the way, Bijou has a similar recipe in his profile. Only with the addition of oil.

I have the simplest bread in lyubiks - from flour and water, without kneading, with a low yeast content and with cold dilution.

Oh, our man! From this unchanged my daily and grew. Tell me, does ordinary bread seem sugary and boring after it?
But without oil, the crust seems rough to me.

they promised to send me by mail, they took the address

sent, she herself did not believe the speed: to send Kesha in tech. weeks I had to intervene in the process, but the book and the discount were sent in a week without a showdown)))
the booklet is solid, the paper is good, I will be guided

Added on Friday 27th Jan 2017 00:12

Anyone can be used in a cupcake, the main thing is that not for long, since the baking powder may work ahead of time, and in a biscuit, be careful not to plant proteins.

Olga, so you can?

uh huh!

[Bijou]

Bijou, I will not say about a rough crust, I bake in the oven, put a ladle of water on the bottom, steamed, the crust is tender
Lately I've been baking Borodino bread, kneading with Kenwood, baking in a small Redmond multicooker. There just a gorgeous shape comes out, no big or small such a neat loaf of half a kilo. Already learned the proportions by heart. and the oven is too lazy to drive.

Added Friday 27 Jan 2017 09:46 AM

About the book. I recently bought a Delongy multi-body, a display sample, without a book in the kit. It turns out that Delongy has an application on his phone, where all the recipes are collected. There, when cooking, the main difficulty in choosing a program, it is very convenient to search for a recipe in the application. You choose by type of food - potatoes, vegetables, chicken, meat, and a list of recipes pops up. The recipe contains a description of the preparation of products and the choice of mode.
Super easy!
I leafed through a book from Kenwood and put it aside (they sent it, like everyone else, not for induction)
But I use Delongy's application often. Your phone is always at hand!

I just dream that Kenwood will give birth to such an application. A lot of money spent on courier delivery would have been better spent on programmers.

I just dream that Kenwood will give birth to such an application. A lot of money spent on courier delivery would have been better spent on programmers.

Exactly. And I grumble about this all the time.

[Twig]

Twig, indeed, why not do it for Kenwood, because Delongy owns the Kenwood brand.

[Twig]

I leafed through a book from Kenwood and put it aside (they sent, like everyone else, not for induction)

Twig, after the call, they also sent me an email. mail - A large book of recipes for Cooking Chef can be downloaded from the link 🔗 I have a medzher, I didn't even look.

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, the downloaded book is not that :))
How to flip through it, all in order? Delongy's app is simply gorgeous!

They just sent me in Russian ... maybe the same thing. just haven't opened the link yet Peter Push
I am not allowed on the link from Peter Push: girl_cray1: they write that they are blocked
🔗Kenwood_Cooking_Chef_Ful l.pdf

[zvezda]

zvezda, downloaded, compared the number of pages - the same as in paper. Great, now both books are in pdf.

At the beginning of the year, I compiled a content and comparison file for myself, and printed it out to the kitchen, so as not to leaf through the books every time.

The induction recipe book contains 115 recipes.
For a regular car - 179 recipes.
Direct matches word-for-word - 44.
And some number of indirect matches, such as a recipe for pasta dough, but edited the text under induction.

In the induction machine book, induction is used 53 times in recipes, and 4 times non-essential uses, such as blanching tomatoes.

However, induction can and should be applied in many overlapping recipes. Especially in the "Bread" section. But there they simply copied the old text without editing for induction. These are such operations as proofing, or melting butter and mixing with something, and then transfer from the pan to the bowl and continue stirring / whipping. It is more convenient to do this using induction. But I counted only where the degrees and time were written in direct text.

[zvezda]

On the link from Peter Push, they don't let me write that they are blocked

zvezda , here's another 🔗

After all, here the most important thing is to choose the right temperature for many dishes ... so I haven’t forced the condensed milk to boil a little, then it was watery !! And it's the same with marmalade .. after all, agar needs to open up: girl_in_dreams: so it's problematic by typing

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, zvezdaThanks for the links to books for Km with induction!

Girls who have a normal link to a book for non-induction machines at. pdf? And then I have it downloaded to my computer, and there are download links in the tyrnet. And the lines that used to work are now blocked.

Good day!
Today I finally bought a Kenwood kvc50 chef dough mixer and already tried to bake buns for hot dogs and hamburgers. The result is stunning! I have never had such baked goods in 40 years of my life. The family is happy! : yahoo: Why didn't I buy it earlier ?!
Interestingly, will he make dumplings? The instructions do not say a word about this

[Tatyana!]

Tatyana!! Congratulations on your purchase !!! : rose: Any Ken is good !!! : girl_love: May you only be happy

Interestingly, will he make dumplings?

But I prefer to make dumplings in the processor.