Zhanik
Quote: zvezda
MASHA !!!!!!!! GIRLS!!!!!! Buy me 094 ???

take it, Olya! you'll like it!
Ketsal
Oh, my chef titanum has been in a panic since May, yesterday I started noodles, and there is rust inside the low-speed nest !!! Save what to do!
Miranda
Quote: Rituslya
Until you unfold the same bandura, you will find the attachment, you will wash the bowl! ...
And I can cook pasta on the stove.
So I'm trying to sell 30 thousand, but my husband squeals.
I put it as it was. I do not turn, every day in the works. I don't have a high-speed vegetable cutter, so I don't have to turn around.

And wash the bowl not in scrap.
With a large bowl, I have only one ambush - all the time it seems that it is not enough, and then I shift it into shape - wow, a lot

It took me longer to wash Boshik (not mumik, but msm), more details. And then what - a nozzle / two, and a bowl.

But that for Boshik it was necessary to get everything out of the box, that for Kenwood it was the same to bend over. I don't see the difference to get the Boshik whisk and attach it, or get the Kenik whisk and attach it. These are the same movements.

Selling, of course, is not worth it. You got it so hard.
But it is clear that you did not love him, and even took offense at him. Either because of the fact that I got it hard, or did not live up to expectations, or there were not those expectations.

I don’t know how I would act in such a situation.

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Quote: Peter Push
(I mean the Titanium Sens model)

Sens is not Titanium.

New Titanium Chef and Titanium Chef HL are like 010 and 020 only new.

Sens Chef and Sens Chef CL are a different class.

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Quote: Ketsal
and there is rust inside the low-speed nest !!!

I would call the service.
Where does the rust come from?
yana0505
Svetka-Vetka, I saw an ad on Avito for model 6030 for 25,000, but there are eight nozzles. There is everything and 320 and 340 and 970 and 950 and so on. I just think it was more profitable for them to sell all the attachments four thousand at a time, and leave the car, it will still cost more than 25,000.
Tanyush @ ka
Svetka-Vetka, I bought myself for 38,000 rubles. 060 model in a car cafe and I am very happy, induction is good, but it is possible in relatives without it, at first I also wanted to change, but I thought why, girls bake such beauty without any inductions, if money do not allow, take whatever according to korman, in any case, be very happy, and even more so now there is a crisis, and I think there is no need to get into extra debts.
Rituslya
Yes, no, devuli, about the sale this is the only way I talk. Who will let me sell it ?! So ... I grumble at him sometimes, but I love him with secret love. It's just big, bulky. Sits in profile on the rug. If I start to cook something in it, then immediately the rearrangement follows. He already exists, because let him live and please, but if he hadn't, 020 would suit me the same way. He was a pretty hard worker.
It's just that you don't need to get into loans because of him. These are just household appliances for the kitchen.


Added Sunday 09 Oct 2016 07:49 AM

Peter PushNatalechka, I don’t want a new Ken. Probably all the same. But the new Boshik that just appears on the market, I would love to try it. But again, it is unrealistically expensive.
kseniya D
Svetka-Vetka, but I believe that if it is necessary for work and will continue to generate income, then it is possible on credit.
For example, I sew to order. You can sew on any machine if your hands grow correctly and there is a desire and love for this business. But a good sewing machine makes this job VERY EASIER and SPEED UP.
Twig
Quote: yana0505

Svetka-Vetka, I saw an ad on Avito for model 6030 for 25,000, but there are eight nozzles. There is everything and 320 and 340 and 970 and 950 and so on. I just think it was more profitable for them to sell all the attachments four thousand at a time, and leave the car, it will still cost more than 25,000.
This left advertisement is of some kind, I saw it too.Helen even wrote that the photos in this ad were stolen from another. In short, swindlers, which, unfortunately, are many on Avito.
Svetka-Vetka
Rituslya, I just have a stationary mixer, a small Boshik. I only make light dough in it. For a cooler, I need a stronger car ..
Bijou, the stove of the house is glass-ceramic, not bad.
But baking for me is not a means of income, but a hobby. I bake as a gift for my family. When I worked, I regularly fed girls at work with my experiments))
I just like to bake, and I have a sweet tooth)) I definitely won't make money on sense ... and you're right, it makes no sense for me to take a sens from my sister. I'd rather dream about induction. There are miracles in life, and maybe it will happen to me)))
I live in Novosibirsk, and my sister is in Moscow. Therefore, I did not see any of the units live, only from the video in the advertisement.
I don't really need the buns going to the car, I need a vegetable cutter or a food processor more.
yana0505, The price is wonderful with so many buns ... I did not find Kenwood on Avito in Novosibirsk, I looked out of interest in the summer. And from Moscow, I can't buy through Avito ((
Tanyush @ ka, I agree with you .. I talked to a friend she bakes awesome cakes with just a good Boshevsky mixer.
kseniya D, ehhhh ... if I baked to order ... it doesn't work. This is a client base, a daughter at that age when you need to run after her, climbs everywhere and everywhere, she is 2.5 years old ... then I'm quite anxious ... suddenly she doesn't like it, and so on. continuous stress. Well, somehow you can't ask for a lot of money from friends ...
And I have three sewing machines))) I bought a coverstitch and a new overlock. I will sew my daughter ... also a hobby)))
Girls, I am very, very grateful to you for your responsiveness.
You put my brains in place. I cook inside my situation and don't see much. I will definitely not take a loan.
And I won't take sense either, it's very big for me HL. If it were smaller, and a meat grinder with a blender is not needed.
Either I'll wait for a miracle or buy myself a good Bosch with various necessary buns.
I am very glad to meet you. I will continue to read you ... in anticipation of a miracle)))
Sedne
Quote: Svetka-Vetka
And I won't take sense either, it's very big for me HL.
So induction is even more than sens.
Peter Push
Svetka-Vetka, let me give you some advice too. Take a closer look at the cars of the Premier series - these are 560 (570) with a 4.6L bowl and 770 with a 6.7L bowl. They are metal, powerful enough, with min. nozzles. Ksenia and Maria had a small bowl, they are happy with them, they speak warmly about them. I have 770 I am also happy with it. If you don't bake to order, then for a hobby this is a good option. Good luck to you!
kseniya D
Quote: Peter Push
Premier is 560 (570) with a 4.6L bowl and 770 with a 6.7L bowl.
Yes, yes, yes, I confirm. Mine (560) did just fine with any test. I just had the opportunity to buy induction, so I changed it, otherwise I would not even think about replacing it.
Peter Push
Quote: Rituslya
I don't want a new Ken. Probably all the same. But the new Boshik that just appears on the market, I would love to try it. But again, it is unrealistically expensive.
Rituslya, Rita, and the new one at first bewitched me with shapes, illumination, design of nests and something else, it's hard to put into words, but !!! looked closely at the nozzles, and there the hook was "slipped" not from induction, and that's all - goodbye charm. And the new Bosch is the one that looks like Ken? but the price is the price ((((.


Added Sunday, 09 Oct 2016, 13:54

Here is the answer 1374 on page 69 Maria I spotted another one.
zvezda
VETA, NATASHENKA, MIRANDA!!!! THANK YOU!!! : a-kiss: ordered ... only one thing embarrasses .. called the hotline of Kenwood, they do not know about such a Kenwood store: it really made a reservation that it could be real !!!
In general, now I sit and break my head
Miranda
Quote: zvezda
I called the Kenwood hotline, they don't know about such a Kenwood store
Yeah, only of. the site on the page of the typewriter, when you click on Buy, sends it to Kenwood-BT.

🔗
zvezda
In short, it's clear ... from a series of dumb-even dumber (that's me about them)
Miranda, and to you directly SEPARATE THANKS !!!Kenwood Kitchen Machines
I because a mercantile personpractical lady followed your advice and ordered with attachments !! Will come ...I will decide what to sell !!! I have a metal blender for an old one, so I never tried it ... although I have JTC and one more Korean
Masha!! I have a Bosch 5421 .. I don't see any attachments for it
yana0505
Twig, wow, but wanted to call and persuade three nozzles to sell. Here's how to buy if you're from another city?
Alycha
And I have a glass blender and I keep looking at JTC, but I try to persuade myself that the petit blender with the attachment and the bamix and the auger is already too much and I really want to
Kara
Girls, I will catch slippers

Well, at least kill me, I don't understand why there is an induction. No, I understand only in one case, if there is a gas stove in the house. And if the electric ... Well, damn it, cooking pasta in Kenwood is already fatal fury IMHO. To proof the dough .. I just have it on the table well. Chocolate? I work with chocolate sooooo much, and microwave ovens are my best friend in this matter. And I bake sooo much. The girls won't lie. Custard? Also in the microwave. I cook semolina porridge, God forbid, once a year. I had the opportunity to buy induction 4-5 times at a very attractive price. But I (with my simply pathological deviceogolism) never figured out why I needed him.

I would buy induction on only one condition: if, initially buying Keshka, I would find induction at the same price and with the same set as 023

Ready to defend
Twig
zvezda, Hurrah!!!
I am tormented by the question - if I click on the page with the combine, discounts are drawn there, 5% and 7%
But it seems like they say on the phone that the discount does not work.
That's why they still indicate the price with a discount ???


Added Sunday, 09 Oct 2016 3:57 PM

Kara, I just can't bring myself to try to cook custard in the microwave.
It seems difficult to me, do you need to take out and stir?
Prostrate the dough - what if it's cold at home?


Added Sunday, 09 Oct 2016 4:01 PM

yana0505, I tried to call - the subscriber is not a subscriber.
I think Helen even wrote a complaint against him?
Kara
Quote: Twig

Kara, I just can't bring myself to try to cook custard in the microwave.
It seems difficult to me, do you need to take out and stir?

It is necessary to take it out once a minute (and only 3, well, 4 times at most) and mix it with two movements. After standing at the stove (before) for 20-30 minutes - this is garbage
Parallel
And I always make a custard in the microwave, very quickly and easily. But induction would still be desirable for a wet meringue, but there is still no free money for it) Kara, and how do you work with chocolate in the world? Are you just drowning there or something else?
zvezda
Twig !!!Thank you! for taking part!!!! 🔗I haven’t looked at the promotions .... I will be given a lifetime discount of 7% !!!!! Now I am sitting and trying to sell
Kara !!And if a person cooks only in CF ??? And custard and tomato paste, condensed milk, narsharab, blanks, jams ... I can enumerate endlessly ... one bechamel will outshine everything !!! This is where you think about induction .... maybe, of course, someone likes to stand at the stove, but it's definitely not me !!!! Even though she is superb ... I have a Kaiser by the way ... but this steamy from all the comforts is not for me !!!
kseniya D
Ir, there is no micra, the stove is gas, but I don't cook anything in it, like pasta and potatoes.
Kara
Ksyusha, here are two arguments at once!


Added on Sunday, 09 Oct 2016 4:22 PM

Quote: Parallel

And I always make a custard in the microwave, very quickly and easily. But induction would still be desirable for a wet meringue, but there is still no free money for it) Kara, and how do you work with chocolate in the world? Are you just drowning there or something else?

Gulya, yes, I just drown at a low level of 300-450. If necessary, I temper. No problem at all.


Added Sunday, October 09, 2016 4:24 PM

Quote: zvezda


Kara !!And if a person cooks only in CF ??? And custard and tomato paste, condensed milk, narsharab, blanks, jams ... I can enumerate endlessly ... one bechamel will outshine everything !!! This is where you think about induction .... maybe, of course, someone likes to stand at the stove, but it's definitely not me !!!! Even though she is superb ... I have a Kaiser by the way ... but this steamy from all the comforts is not for me !!!

In no case do I want to dissuade anyone. But I do all of the above either in a microwave oven or in a pan with a double bottom (now there are a dime a dozen of them, and the prices are quite reasonable). For the entire cooking time, I can mix it a couple of times. Is MV a slow cooker? So even more so, there is nothing to interfere with
zvezda
Kara !!! Try not to stir condensed milk for at least a minute * JOKINGLY * or at least the same tomato paste or béchamel ?? !!! Of course to each his own !! And once they cooked on the fire ... and washed the dishes with their hands (I can't even remember without trembling) and move around by different means ... I AM FOR facilitating women's labor


Added Sunday 09 Oct 2016 04:44 PM

For example, I never saw the point in buying a summer cottage ... it's wild for me
Kara
Olga, don't worry so much. I cook bechamel in a ladle with a double bottom, I do not interfere every second, everything is fine. I do not cook tomato paste often, but if I cook it, I cook it in Shteba in a Teflon bowl, for the entire period I stir it 3-4 times, nothing burns. And condensed milk in general is TO THIS RECIPE I cook in 10 minutes, well, I'll mix it 3 times, it turns out superbly!

Congratulations on your purchase with all my heart! Let the machine serve you faithfully for many years!

PS: and I really want a summer cottage, I have not yet reached the maintenance of cows, but I could make cheeses for my own pleasure
zvezda
Ira!! I'm not worried: girl_dance: I'm just arguing (or convincing myself), but it seems to me not an option to buy more GOOD dishes. And my stove is generally closed and turned off


Added Sunday, October 09, 2016 4:58 PM

Thanks for the congratulations (though I don't have it yet)
Kara
Nenene, Olya, there is no question of additional dishes. It just so happened that all residents of the Bread Maker have a multicooker a priori. Well, pots / ladles - I think everyone has at least one with a double bottom in the household
zvezda
You may not remember how they killed me here 6-7 years ago: spiteful: when did I first buy Cuckoo ??? Then there were only panasy .... And I handed out the dishes for a long time !!! I have a Zepter, but it burns godlessly !!! Something like this
Kara
I don’t remember how they beat you. I can't say anything about Zepter, as well as about Cuckoo, because I don't have them. I mostly use Gipfel, I'm very happy. But this is already a discussion for another topic.
zvezda
It was !!!! I was then very much supported by the Hairpin with Fuga's aunt Besey ...
I sat down ... made a list of more frequent dishes and what I can ... but it is very stressful to do and came to the conclusion that it is NECESSARY !!!!!!
I love these dishes too: a-kiss: nothing to cook on !!!!!!!!!!!!
I am looking for recipes for her .... I have not slept for 3 nights
Zhanik
Quote: zvezda
For example, I never saw the point in buying a summer cottage ... it's wild for me

and we bought it 4 years ago ... It’s a shame in front of our neighbors. We are no gardeners. House, bath ... A place to relax, in general. Again, there is room for gadgets to multiply.
I love Kesha. I did not regret that I took induction. But it was precisely with the purchase of a summer house that the question arose about buying a new combine, when the old one went to the country house .... And Cooking appeared. Hurrah))))
Kara
Olenka, I am sincerely happy for you with all my heart. In general, what the girls need is a new toy. And if this toy also helps to cook goodies, then it's great. My dear, when he begins to express dissatisfaction, I always say: "You generally rejoice that I spend money on all sorts of bells and whistles to feed you deliciously, and not on clothes-bags-shoes (well, not most of the money)"
Olga VB
Irisha, what you write is correct: micra, milk cookers, multicooker cope with many functions perfectly.
But if there is a CM, in which you can set the temperature, the degree of stirring / whipping and the time of this action, and most calmly do anything, without looking back at the parallel processes, it is very convenient!
Therefore, I am grateful to my betrothed that at one time he insisted on the induction Kesh.
I can't say that I use heating every day, but I use the timer several times a day.
Of course, you can do without everything, but the small amenities provided by our kitchen and other appliances are so nice.

By the way, once again I remind everyone who has forgotten or simply does not know that there are other CMs with heating (albeit not induction) that do an excellent job with all the functions available to CM Kenwood 080/090, have a completely metal case and filling, but while really cheaper.
Svetka-Vetka
Sedne, more. But I mean that if you just take a car, then I kind of don't need a big bowl ..
Peter Push,
kseniya D,
Thank you! I'm going to look.
Kara, I have no micra
A double-bottomed pot is there for wet meringue. But the downside is that you can't make a cream of more than 4 proteins, it's just hard and the mixer seems to me to die. Well, the chocolate was heated in it. But I don't like it, because with a whistle ... I remove the whistle, hang a rag on the hole so as not to get burned by the steam ... in short, for me, it's dancing with a tambourine ...
So I started thinking about induction ..



Added Sunday 09 Oct 2016 09:03 PM

Olga VBI only know that after kenwood, kitschen made an induction pot ...
Thanks for the info ... went to google ...
Paul I
Quote: Kara
Well, pots / ladles - I think everyone has at least one with a double bottom in the household
We probably don't, but what is it? Probably urgently need to buy.
Anchic
Quote: Twig
Prostrate the dough - what if it's cold at home?

The dough is perfectly fermented, maybe a drop longer. The dough, in general, can be defrosted in the refrigerator (cold proofing). Our heating was not turned on for a long time this season, so this did not interfere with the bread.
Zhanik
and I would never have cooked such a Balonese, as in Cache ... It is long and dreary to stir all this for so long. The effect is worth it. And we are his horror, as we love ...
I cook semolina in a little Cuckoo, pasta on the stove. But I love making them on Kesh. True, induction is not needed here ...
Rituslya
Here they write devuli about pasta ... It's easier on the stove. And why is it easier ?! You still need to stand and stir. For me, for example. the stove is such that you really need to stir. And if not, then a lump as a prize.
Ay ... Reading. How good it is that my Kendel lives with me, my secret love!
zvezda
Natasha !!! I remember how you bought: girl-yes: and how I doubted and how lucky ... now you are my guru in questions about it !!!


Added Sunday, 09 Oct 2016 10:33 PM

Girls!!! And who ever made a wet meringue in this Cache ??? Can you tell me how ??
Zhanik
Quote: Rituslya
You still need to stand and stir

never stir. Just more water in volume and that's it


Added Sunday, 09 Oct 2016 10:37 PM

Quote: zvezda
now you are my guru on it !!!

it is a sin to laugh over the sick (prolactin-dependent) ... I generally dropped out of the kitchen for 1.5 years. I have a strange toxicosis ... I can cook, but I can't stand the smell of my favorite gadgets. It’s sick to watch (((second time like this. UzhOs !!!!
Rituslya
Oh, but I still walk in Soviet style and stir. I remember from childhood, when you merge everything superfluous, but inside there is a single lump, which at least interfere, at least do not interfere, but the bun is exactly from the movie "Take care of women"
Miranda
Quote: Kara
Girls, I will catch slippers

Karawhy sneakers?
I also think that pasta is a bit of a perversion, although if there is, then why not

And here's the rest.
By the way, I also have a gas stove, but I absolutely do not like microwave ovens as a device.

But it's not that.
It seems to me that it is a matter of needs and opportunities.

Based on them, we persuade ourselves to buy the necessary thing (or such an apparent one).

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The need for a planetary mixer is when you knead the dough a lot / often, beat the whites / cream / t. etc., you make blanks (and most of them are not a chef who can cut cubes / cubes with a knife faster than a combine). When you want to unload your arms / shoulders / back and free up time. And if a cake (bread, pies, etc.) is baked once a year, then a simple mixer is above the roof. And if 3-5 times a week, then you need to buy a planetary. Well, if a person earns by cooking, then this purchase also pays for itself.

Needs are also habits. You have already gotten used to doing some processes in the microwave. And a couple of times to get to mix for 30 seconds is fine for you.Or who has a different habit in a certain process. Then there is no need to replace the familiar, easy-to-use method with another method.
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Opportunities are trivial money.
If finances and space allow, then why not buy the coolest model of anything. A kitchen or a washing machine.

If the opportunities are not great, and the person does not earn extra money by cooking, then the best way is to sit down and write a table of needs.

What is the CM for, what will I do the usual on it, what I plan to do from what I was lazy with my hands. For myself, I can say that I was too lazy to do it with my hands for years, but now I do it every week with the car.

Induction is a separate article of need.
In fact, such a need may not be on the list, because until you try it, it is not clear how much you need it. But it's still fun with her, and a lot is easy.

But the truth is, it doesn't work when there is a blinding desire.
And it's hard to read the forum and not get sick with device addiction

Although, I believe that Kitchen invests more in advertising, he has more food bloggers getting to drive the car, more reports with beautiful photos. Kenwood is very far behind in this. Many came to him through an initial desire to urgently buy Kitchen.

And here I would advise to proceed from character. For example, I knew that I wanted induction and that's it. Because I was confident that no intermediate option would satisfy this desire. Therefore, I sat and waited a couple of years for a good chance. Although, if it were not for the crisis, and immediately would have cost 60 thousand, then I would not have waited. It's just that when I wanted it, it already cost about 90 thousand, and then it only grew in price.

Although, maybe another model would have satisfied me in the end, but I didn't want to take risks with buy-sell-buy.

At the same time, the light did not converge like a wedge on Kenwood.
There are other kneaders, the choice is large. But we are so loudly rejoicing at Kenwood (deservedly, I do not argue) that it would be nice for the company to give us all at least a nozzle for spreading the dream "I want Kenwood."
Rituslya
Quote: Miranda
But we are so loudly rejoicing at Kenwood (deservedly, I do not argue) that it would be nice for the company to give us all at least a nozzle for spreading the dream "I want Kenwood."
I'm not going to praise, but let them pay extra for criticism anyway. It's not for nothing that I'm looking for jambs day and night!
Miranda
Rituslyaand I praise
But I meant that Kenwood is more popular than kitschen on the forum, but on other resources and among food bloggers I see kitschen more often.
Zhanik
Quote: Miranda

Rituslyaand I praise
But I meant that Kenwood is more popular than kitschen on the forum, but on other resources and among food bloggers I see kitschen more often.

Just 4-5 years ago Kitchen was more expensive than Kesha, as I remember ...
Twig
And now it comes out cheaper
Miranda
Twig, depending on which model to compare.
Nozzles + - are equal.
Leilashka
Rituslya, could you send a model of a new Boshik?) I can't find)

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