zvezda
That's interesting ...... St. Petersburg is also classified as a region ??? : girl-th: We do not hold a master class, although the coupon was given
Air
Quote: zvezda

That's interesting ...... St. Petersburg is also classified as a region ??? : girl-th: We do not hold a master class, although the coupon was given
In St. Petersburg, they will soon open - either at the end of this year, or at the beginning of the next)
Apparently, that's why they give coupons in advance))
Paul I
Quote: Smurfy
yesterday two pots of cabbage were salted with it and plus a high-speed grater-slicer)
I have absolutely no idea how you need to cut the cabbage in order to shove it into these small holes of the shredder and it would not fall apart into leaves. This is perhaps, if you salt the dust, and not straw.
LisaNeAlisa
Paul, in vain you. I, too, with her help sauerkraut. Very comfortably! I can take a picture if the next neighbor, after mother's boast about 2 buckets in 40 minutes, comes to shred)
proshka
I also broke my whole head how to put a piece of cabbage in there so that it would not work out in a crumb. I just like to have sauerkraut in long ribbons, so that it hangs from a fork. Although the slicing does not affect the taste, it is beautiful, after all!
kseniya D
Quote: Paul I
This is perhaps if you salt the dust, and not the straw.
No trash comes out. Of course, a long ribbon will not work either. But, for the taste and color, for example, I don't like long rags.
Do you think it's rubbish?
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Belka13
kseniya D, I also love these thin straws. It's more pleasant for me to chew
Tanyush @ ka
And I still can't get enough of my keshka, I baked a cake again
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that's what it is
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Belka13
Tanyush @ ka, as always, the beauty is extraordinary!
LisaNeAlisa
Ksenia, I also like a thin short straw. The vinaigrette goes with a bang!
Tanyush @ ka
Belka13, Olya thanks
cv-1963
Hello, dear forum users!
I really want a kitchen car!
I read a lot, but I still ask for your advice and opinions!
There is an opportunity to buy the 6030 T model for 31 thousand rubles.
But our family is 3 people, and the bowl is big. Is there a difference in handling small amounts of food in a 4.6 l bowl and a 6.7 l bowl? For example, beat 3 squirrels?
I looked at model 050. Symptomatic.
And now in St. Petersburg there is a special offer: when buying 6 attachments, the 5030 machine is a "gift". This is 60 tons.
Or buy directly with induction?
Thank you in advance,
Best regards, Svetlana.
Twig
At the master class, they said that there is a promotional code, according to which they give a gift when buying on the office. What - they did not say, I would not count on the attachment of course, but suddenly what a pleasure?
The code word "Napoleon" with a capital letter. True, I don't know for sure, in Russian or Latin letters.
Miranda
cv-1963, that is, you have such a choice?
- Sense with a large bowl for 31 (is it used or new?)
- Sense with a small bowl + attachments for 60 thousand.
- induction 096 for 60 thous.

Quote: cv-1963
Is there a difference in handling small amounts of food in a 4.6 l bowl and a 6.7 l bowl? For example, beat 3 squirrels?

Kenwood and 1 egg whites. Both in the large bowl and in the small one.
You just need to adjust the whisk.

All attachments except for the hook must be adjusted in height, for that and the key is included.

I have a large bowl and I like it.
It is inconvenient for someone to wash a large one - either the tap is low, or heavy for someone.

Quote: cv-1963
I looked at model 050. Symptomatic.

Big bowl sense and induction are slightly different.
The induction is a couple of centimeters higher due to the induction, and Sense also has a couple of see differences.

But, in principle, yes, they are similar.

***
If 60 thousand. ok, then I'm for induction.
According to the principle - I will gradually overgrow with nozzles, but I will not improve the car.

The stock with attachments has a minus - there are not always those attachments that fit the car.In the Sense line, there are differences in the mountings.

But the consultants won't tell you that. And to buy unnecessary nozzles and then sell it cheaper - it can cost more than 31 thousand, for which you can take with a large bowl.

If 60 thousand is stressful for a family. And if you are not tormented by the desire to get induction anyway, then 31 thousand. for a large bowl - a good price.

cv-1963
Miranda, Thank you!
6030 is a new car.
No, the choice is not limited to these models. The budget has been accumulated, although I do not want to buy something that you will be disappointed in, or it will be inconvenient to work with. I have a lot of things gathering dust in my closet - bought under "I want, I can not", and then .....
From the bread machine (although I do not use it very often) and the multicooker (all the time) in full pleasure. I love technology.
First, I want to understand what volume of the bowl is needed. And, of course, the type of car.
But acquaintances tell me about the harm to health of induction.
kseniya D
Quote: cv-1963
But acquaintances tell me about the harm to health of induction.
? Share with us, pliz.
Sedne
Quote: cv-1963
But acquaintances tell me about the harm to health of induction.
And what is not harmful? What does not cause any harm to health at all? Air, water, food, TV, computer, microwave oven, mobile phone, Teflon, even an ordinary bed is harmful. I remember at school, our chemist went to the museum of harmful things, it turned out that absolutely everything bears this or that harm.


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Quote: kseniya D
Share with us, pliz.
Do you seriously want to know? The less you know the better you sleep
cv-1963
I am not friends with physics, so I cannot explain.
My friend chose a kitchen panel, so she was dissuaded from induction, they explained for a long time about magnetic fluxes and so on ...
But I all the same look towards models with induction.
Miranda
Quote: cv-1963
long explained about magnetic fluxes

obscurantism
Quote: cv-1963
First, I want to understand what volume of the bowl is needed.

If there is an opportunity to look and touch, hold it in your hands, put it next to it, for example, in a store, it will help you understand.
kseniya D
Quote: Sedne
Do you seriously want to know? The less you know the better you sleep
Shine, I am selectively impressionable If I am thinking of getting rid of something, and at the same time they convince me to do it, then I will easily succumb (this was the case with the micro), and if I love something with all my heart, then no matter how I persuade, nope, I will not part and I will not be impressed.
cv-1963
Yesterday I was with Media Markte. They don't have induction machines. Only on order. The lineup is limited. Now the direction is 6 nozzles with model 5030.
Miranda
cv-1963, and with a greater bowl others are not?
without induction at least.

You should compare the cup itself.
Because there is little difference in breadth and depth, the difference in height in size is significant. And this is important if you plan to put a wall under the cabinet.
Vinochek
Quote: cv-1963
Yesterday I was with Media Markte.
there is still an induction campaign at Kenwood-BT.
kseniya D
Do you want to visit the officials via the Internet?
🔗
cv-1963
Miranda, thanks, these are just essential details !!!!
But I have a place for a car with an "empty" top without hanging shelves, 40 cm wide. I just did it for equipment.
I saw a 4 L bowl, it seemed to me wider than 6. What is the ++++ 6 L bowl, except for the large volume of the final product?


Added on Monday 24 Oct 2016 03:12 PM

Evgeniya, Xenia, Thank you!
I was also on the official website. But I have not yet decided on the model. It's bad that you can see only in pictures, or travel the whole city.
Smurfie
Quote: Paul I
I have absolutely no idea how you need to cut the cabbage in order to shove it into these small holes of the shredder and it would not fall apart into leaves. This is perhaps if you salt the dust, and not the straw.
I consider the question essentially. I also did not immediately come to this method of slicing. Earlier, every year in the season of salting, my husband planed with a Berner grater, everything suited me, he cuts, I "hammer". And here I was impatient, but my husband is not at home and will not come soon. I called my son. We tried Burner first - long and unsafe. We brought a Krups electric cutter, uncomfortable and even longer.Then I installed the food processor that was attached to 096, so in it we really got almost dust, sooo small, quickly, of course, but not that coat. And the constant shaking out of the filling bowl is enough. And then I remembered that I had a high-speed grater-slicer in my bins, they installed it and everything went like clockwork. It’s strange, like the discs are the same, the hole is the same size, but the difference is significant. The cabbage comes out thin and just as I like, not with long ropes, but just right. I will not take a picture, in the photo above it is exactly like mine. Moreover, the carrots were rubbed with the same attachment, only the disc was installed with a different one. Convenient and very fast.
And we laid it like that. We cut the cabbage rectangles so that the size of the window was slightly smaller. And the thickness of the "pack" of cabbage leaves to be dense, then they do not strive to lie horizontally and jump out intact.
I usually pickled less cabbage, Berner and husband's hands were enough. and here at the wholesaler we bought as many as 6 large forks, so I had to think about how to make my work easier.
It is precisely for such large volumes that this grater-slicer is apparently needed. For different workpieces.
4udo
cv-1963, You need to decide what the KM is mainly for.
A 4L bowl is enough for a small family. But with the prospect of "expansion" it makes sense to take a bigger bowl. And in general, a lot - not a little, it will not be superfluous.I can say about myself that the cups are 4 liters. enough. Once it was not enough when I made minced meat preparations, but this is rather an exception. A CM with a small bowl is much lighter than the one with a large one. That is, Sens 5030, for example, could easily be rearranged from the kitchen countertop to the dining table. And the induction heavy horse, I have never moved it, it's good that there is a separate place for it, otherwise, if it were somewhere in the closet, I would get it once every five years. With regard to the occupied space, the induction is only higher, in lengths are approximately the same.
If you need heating, take induction while it is at such an attractive price. If not needed, then you can safely do without it.
Personally, I do not regret that I changed Sens for induction 096, it so happens that I often need heating.
Overall, both CMs are great! Therefore, make your choice based on your needs and the type of dishes you cook often.
If, for example, once a quarter you make Béchamel, custard dough / cream, sauces that require heating, chocolate fondue, then you can do everything calmly on the stove, it is better to buy a regular model and the necessary attachments without overpaying for a not particularly needed function.
Smurfie
Quote: cv-1963
What are the ++++ 6L bowls besides the large volume of the final product?

I can answer as the owner of two cars, km 010 and induction. when you knead dough on bread in a 4.6 l bowl, for example, flour spills out anyway. Well, not always, of course, but often. The bowl is smallish yet in height. Yes, and less stable, this machine strives to crawl across the table. And now here is induction, it stands like a monolith and not gu-gu. Today I was just kneading the dough for bread and was happy about this fact. But on the other hand, you will not drag from place to place, the dough for pasta and dumplings, for example, will have to be made in the same, stationary place.
I also have no lockers above the typewriter, it turned out to be very convenient.
And besides, induction opens up so many possibilities! I am with both hands for induction !!! And you can buy attachments later. On Avito there are girls selling here.
4udo
Smurfie, and in my 4 liters the flour never spilled out. But I never kneaded the dough for more than half a cup. For two and that's a lot. And besides, there is a protective cover
If there was induction with a small bowl and cheaper by 10 thousand, then I would have bought it without a drop of doubt And at the same price, of course, I would have taken a larger bowl
Vinochek
Quote: Smurfy
flour spills out anyway.
the 5030 has a cover that prevents this from happening. I never woke up.
If finances permit, take induction.
if
Quote: 4udo
If, for example, once a quarter you make Béchamel, custard dough / cream, sauces that require heating, chocolate fondue, then you can do everything calmly on the stove,
,
it is better 5030 with nozzles.
A small bowl is enough for me (it seems large even).
cv-1963
Thank you all and a deep bow for your advice!

What is the difference between the 050 and 5030 models?
Smurfie
Quote: Vinochek
the 5030 has a cover that prevents this
Well, maybe your lids are more thoughtful, but mine rises and flour flies out through the gap. Then everything around in flour. It is necessary, while the initial kneading is in progress, combining flour with other ingredients, manually holding the lid. But this does not always happen, but if it does, then of course not happy. In general, all these 7.5 years I have been happy with my favorite kitchen machine and rejoiced as much as it can! And now I am even more happy with induction and use it more often, maybe this is so at first.
Svetlana62
Quote: 4udo
If there was induction with a small bowl
My dream.
Smurfie
Quote: cv-1963
What is the difference between the 050 and 5030 models?
They differ in the quality of performance. 050 metal and stainless steel stirrers, heavy and high quality. 5030 - plastic housing and stirrers made of aluminum and lighter.
Like so. Well, and probably the power.
Vinochek
Quote: Smurfy
5030 - plastic case
Body Material: Solid Aluminum
cv-1963
Smurfie, Blimey!
That is, the best of the models with a 4 l bowl is 050?
And what about metal induction machines?
Vinochek
cv-1963, here is a comparison
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The body is the same in die-cast aluminum. The 050 has 300W more power (1400 versus 1100). And there is a juicer included.
Smurfie
Quote: Vinochek

Body Material: Solid Aluminum
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. I thought plastic! I look all are silent, let me, I think, I am confused.
But the attachments there are definitely different! That is, the corollas!


Added on Monday 24 Oct 2016 5:19 PM

This is how "agitators" look like from big and small machines.



Posted on Monday 24 Oct 2016 05:21 PM

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Paul I
Quote: kseniya D
Do you think it's rubbish?
Quite acceptable.
So how, into what pieces do you cut the cabbage and how do you put it in a shredder?


Added on Monday 24 Oct 2016 6:02 PM

Quote: Twig
At the master class, they said that there is a promotional code, according to which they give a gift when buying on the office. What - they did not say, I would not count on the attachment of course, but suddenly what a pleasure?
If my memory serves me, it's a scale.
Rituslya
I don't have a high speed cutter, but I have a food processor. Here on some kind of grater (I don't remember the number) I also cut cabbage in large volumes. It's very good for us. And for extinguishing, and boiling, and filling.
I have never compared it with dust, because it is very far from dust.
Paul I
Quote: Smurfy
Yes, and this machine is less stable, it strives to crawl across the table
Well, I don't know how 010, but 570 and Sense (500) don't run anywhere and stand rooted to the spot. And the flour does not get enough sleep anywhere.


Added on Monday 24 Oct 2016 06:24 PM

Quote: Smurfy
5030 - plastic housing and stirrers made of aluminum and lighter.
The 336 has a plastic case, while the 5000 (Sensei) series is made of aluminum.
Vinochek
here are nozzles from 5030
🔗
kseniya D
Paul, here is a video, at 27 seconds you can see how the cabbage is cut
Miranda
Wow, named chef kenwood in the video
4udo
Quote: Paul I

Well, I don't know how 010, but 570 and Sense (500) don't run anywhere and stand rooted to the spot. And the flour does not get enough sleep anywhere.
I confirm

Who has a 020 model, show the whisk about which so many diferambs are singing. Please
It's interesting to compare how different it is from induction.
Sedne
Here

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Vinochek
I received such a letter today
Thanks again for ordering this free recipe book from KENWOOD. We are glad to inform you again that your book has already been sent and will be with you in 24/12/2016
pljshik
I also received such a letter today, although Kesha has been bought for a long time!
yana0505
Vinochek, where did you order the book? I didn’t have a coupon, I wrote to the site where I bought it, but I’d never heard it.
LisaNeAlisa
Evgeniya, Irinaand I got it! This is the third with different dates. The first was promised by March 1, the second in May. Well, we'll wait)

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