Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns

Thank you, but I won't be able to ignore it, it knocks hard, I'm afraid the shaft will break. Is there any service experience on this issue in Moscow.

By the way, the question is about the "black crumbs" in the recess under the bucket. The most interesting thing is that if you look into the bucket turned upside down, then in the cylindrical cavity where the transmission mechanism of the mixer rotates, there are also some adhered crumbs. Their size is about 1 * 1 * 1 mm or less. Where do they come from?

I have a suspicion that micro-amounts of dough are squeezed through and charred over time.

hello dear bakers !!! help plz advice. my panasonic sd 2501 is already more than a year old, from the first use I always got an excellent bread, we especially respect French ... but bad luck, it started to rise badly. before the loaf was flush with the shape, and the crumb was so bubbly, but now it turns out 4 centimeters less and a little bit more bread. for 3 months now I can not bake bread as high as before (((... I have already tried changing yeast many times, changed flour, sifted, poured water of different temperatures, put less salt, more water - still nothing. my neighbor has the same oven, they have already changed with photos, shovels, it baked on my flour and yeast, it still works better.and it seems like there is no reason to go for repairs, the bread rises, although not so high.but before it was better. and I also noticed that ordinary bread seems to be of a normal height, but with whole flour it also comes out lowish.
Tell me, how high is your French bread and the usual size M? Thank you

Hmm, 3 months? Are the problems described here similar? Mains voltage, does it affect baking?
Our voltage is low now, because it got colder and people turned on the heaters.
I can bake French in 2 days, as we finish the rolls, then unsubscribe.

Eureka! I unsubscribe on my problem for the collective mind, especially since having mastered the branch I realized that I am not alone. I racked my brains after reading about my own version that passed through the service to no avail. You don't jump on services with a child under your arm. My husband has no time for services now. Yes, and without homemade bread, my child will not survive a week. Intuitively I soaked the bucket for a long time and tried to rotate the spatula in a bucket of water. At first, the scapula moved hard. And the effect was! After the experiment, I got on the good side of the bucket, and oh, miracle, it worked almost perfectly! The second time, I also soaked the bucket immediately after baking, as it cooled down (before washing the bucket only before new baking, soaking it for 5 minutes to remove the spatula) got on the bad side, but there was only a quiet creak, incomparable with that knock and creak, the cat. was terrible! When rearranged on the good side, she only grumbled softly, like an affectionate cat.
Hypothesis: Something a respected manufacturer made a mistake with a bucket, because in the old woman 255 who plowed for 3 years, due to lack of time, I did everything the same way, and there were no problems, so it was with the old man Kenwood who plowed for twelve years and was still a gifted nephew and is still alive to this day. Our sissy, although we must pay tribute to her, bakes gloriously better than the previous ones at times, but requires careful soaking of the bucket after baking. It's a pity my mother does not live nearby, she has the same stove (by the way, having bought her and tested 2500, she could not stay with her old woman, the difference in baking is too great) there is an idea to try to replace the bucket whether the difference in sides will be noticeable or not. I continue the experiment with soaking, as it will continue, I will unsubscribe. Thanks to everyone who sympathized.

[andreiliki]

andreiliki, I hope that squeaks will not scare you anymore, and the stove will behave decently

--Ksu--, try to wipe the place where the temperature sensor is located (like this is such a pimple-protrusion in the middle). It may well be that it has become covered with the thinnest layer of polymerized fat (the kitchen is, after all, and there is fat in the bread), and therefore it twists and gives the stove's brains incorrect information (for example, what is warmer inside than it actually is).

Good day! I just bought a 2501 bread maker and on the third baking in it I saw that when kneading an ordinary good bun of dough, the bucket swayed. What is this marriage or what? Who had it, what to do? I liked this stove so much ...

Is your spatula loose on the pin? Does the lid float to the left-right in the closed position or does it close tightly? Thank you

"Dangles" and "floats", it should be!

[Vyacheslav85]

Vyacheslav85, do not worry, everyone is wobbling. There is no precision in these details. If the paddle was fitted tightly, it would be very difficult to remove it after baking the bread. I went and shook the lid: in the fully open state, no more than 2 mm in each direction, in the fully closed (when the convex part of the metal lid enters the groove of the mating part) no more than 1 mm, in the slightly open state - up to 3 mm in both directions.

Is your spatula loose on the pin? Does the lid float to the left-right in the closed position or does it close tightly? Thank you

backlash shaft / blade is in all Panasonic. As a user of two different bread machines, I can say - this backlash is really needed! I have a second stove from a German store (still the same China, but for Europe): the blade does not play, sits tightly on the shaft - indeed, it is difficult to remove it after baking. At the same time, in Panasonic, the mixer in the bread remained a few times, it almost always remains in the bucket, but it is always easily removed from the shaft by hand.

In model 255, the lid also noticeably loosens ... and this is not a defect. No latches. Again, I can say that the "German" stove with a latch keeps the temperature around the top of the bread much worse.

These are all the features of the Panasonic construct. And the construct is very, very well thought out.

Did you bake the same as yesterday? Do you know that the HP of some Brands, when kneading, finally dances the lady and you have to chase them around the kitchen?

I smiled about the lady. I baked the same bread, the same density of the dough. Am I correct in understanding that if the bucket continues to dangle like this during kneading, then all this fastening mechanism will generally fly apart?

[Sonata]

Sonata My bread maker also creaks slightly when kneading and sometimes moves slightly during kneading.
I find no cause for concern.
When you insert the bucket into its place, does it sit tightly with you?

[Sonata]

Sonata My bread maker also creaks slightly when kneading and sometimes moves slightly during kneading.
I find no cause for concern.
When you insert the bucket into its place, does it sit tightly with you?

A very good question! Pay attention to this, Sonata... The bucket is carefully lowered until it makes light contact with the motor mechanism. We check visually: the walls of the bucket should be parallel to the walls of the bread machine. At the moment of contact, the bucket is carefully turned counterclockwise (about 30 degrees) until it catches the groove and kind of falls through. There is a docking! Now, also lightly in the docked state, turn the bucket clockwise. When properly installed, the bucket assembly will rest against the stop and the sides of the bucket and bread maker will again become parallel.
: o How much scribbling of what I do on the machine in three seconds with a bucket full of flour, yeast, water, salt and sugar, and sunflower oil.

Rina, you know, it's quite possible .. I tried to turn off the oven just before baking and after 30 minutes my bread rose to the top, apparently before baking the dough did not have enough time and needed heat to rise. what to do now, carry it for repair or clean it yourself? but how?

[Sonata]

That's a very good question! Pay attention to this, Sonata

Sonata My bread maker also creaks slightly when kneading and sometimes moves slightly during kneading.
I find no cause for concern.
When you insert the bucket into its place, does it sit tightly with you?

Colleagues bakers, thank you for your help. That's what I do, I carefully dock the bucket, but it still dangles. I'll try to ask a question on the Panas website. Thank you my dears

[Sonata,]

Sonata, and call back to the SC. The phone number must be indicated in the warranty card. It will be faster. It is even better to go there and show on their HP how the bucket dangles. You can not drag your own there yet.

Hello ! So I recently bought a Panasonic SD-2501 bread maker. And also the same garbage - when kneading, the bucket crawls from side to side. This moment also strained me, because I watched videos on the network as the kneading takes place in different bread makers and the bucket there stands tightly and does not twitch from side to side. It seems to me that the bucket will only get loose with time. I also don’t know what to do, whether to drag it back to the store and try to exchange it (though now I suspect that maybe they’re all like that) ... But otherwise I like the stove, I am mastering it slowly.

[Sonata,]

Sonata, and call back to the SC. The phone number must be indicated in the warranty card. It will be faster. It is even better to go there and show on their HP how the bucket dangles. You can not drag your own there yet.

Vitaly, here's the problem. I ordered through "Ozone". Therefore, I am writing to you.

So who is confused by the bucket's movements, we go to a service or store. Option to cut the gasket. How? Search in a closed topic through the search. I am already tired of writing that Panasonic has the most reliable bucket attachment. And the fact that Panasonic is a developer and the first who started to release HP in 1987 is also tired. People do not read the topic, but only write the same thing every day I warn you for the hundredth time, the bucket moves in the nest, the spatula is loose, the door too, and the most important drawback, does not run after beer

Rina, you know, it's quite possible .. I tried to turn off the oven just before baking and after 30 minutes my bread rose to the top, apparently before baking the dough did not have enough time and needed heat to rise. what to do now, carry it for repair or clean it yourself? but how?

At the father-in-law's dacha 255, the stove also stopped baking normal bread, it was dirty inside up to hedgehogs (all and sundry used it), and I had to feed the child when I was at this dacha. Since it cannot eat store bread, out of desperation, I took a microfiber cloth (dry, I think) and gently wiped the sensor. I was terribly afraid, because I knew that they were very fragile, but the oven was not under warranty, and still no longer working. And the effect was very positive, the bread was again good, although before that no one else had baked on it before. I do not call for my experiences, but I share my real ex.

[Maria_B]

Hello ! So I recently bought a Panasonic SD-2501 bread maker. And also the same garbage - when kneading, the bucket crawls from side to side. This moment also strained me, because I watched videos on the network as the kneading takes place in different bread makers and the bucket there stands tightly and does not twitch from side to side. It seems to me that the bucket will only get loose with time. I also don’t know what to do, whether to drag it back to the store and try to exchange it (though now I suspect that maybe they’re all like that) ... But otherwise I like the stove, I am mastering it slowly.

Maria_B, and you put the bucket correctly: its walls should be parallel to the walls of the bread machine. Of course, I have no doubt that by inserting the bucket into the bread maker, you turn the bucket 20 degrees clockwise and it stands correctly, thus fixing itself. But what if you don't screw it up? I don’t understand why it twitches ...

So whoever is confused by the bucket's movements, we go to a service or store. Option to cut the gasket. How? Search in a closed topic through the search.I am already tired of writing that Panasonic has the most reliable bucket attachment. And the fact that Panasonic is a developer and the first who started to release HP in 1987 is also tired. People do not read the topic, but only write the same thing every day I warn you for the hundredth time, the bucket moves in the nest, the spatula is loose, the door too, and the most important drawback, does not run for beer

but when to read everything, when one daughter is 2 years old, and the other is 1 month old? I have no time for this, but it's a pity to throw out the unit.

How to wipe the sensor? Can be more? Very interesting!

Vitaly, here's the problem. I ordered through "Ozone". Therefore, I am writing to you.

Well, why is the problem? "Ozone" is a fairly well-known online store (at least in St. Petersburg). The mark in the passport of the CP must be put by them with the phone numbers of the SC. Look carefully at the papers that were given to you when issuing CP. If there is no warranty card (which is already wild and I don't believe in this) and there are no SC phones, then you can safely and immediately call them and demand what you are supposed to. But you have to listen to accusations of bungling - you need to check everything upon delivery.
And ask, do not hesitate. How can we help you. And about the backlashes, and about the gaps. I do not want to answer those who immediately diagnose without understanding the essence and make categorical conclusions that Panasonic is shit, and the Chinese are armless. I won't answer like that either.

There is a protruding pimp on the front inner panel of the stove. Wipe very carefully !!!!!!!! Do not touch it unnecessarily. I wiped it with microfiber.

There is a protruding pimp on the front inner panel of the stove. Wipe very carefully !!!!!!!! Do not touch it unnecessarily. I wiped it with microfiber.

You can wipe it safely, this is just a sensor casing, the main thing is not to pour water on it from the tap

Well, why is the problem? "Ozone" is a fairly well-known online store (at least in St. Petersburg). The mark in the passport of the CP must be put by them with the phone numbers of the SC. Look carefully at the papers

There is not a word about SC in my warranty card
I got to the bottom of it, mastered a closed topic somehow and found a debate about a gasket to solve this problem. However, the photos do not open anymore.

[Sonata]

There is not a word about SC in my warranty card
I got to the bottom of it, mastered a closed topic somehow and found a debate about a gasket to solve this problem. However, the photos do not open anymore.

You decide, Sonata... I would recommend that you forget about the gaskets until your HP runs out of warranty. And after too ...
Call Ozone and ask for phones warranty workshops. This is just their utter jamb. You didn't take it at the bazaar.
Promise them the awesome internet review they deserve. If these stunners do not know who should repair the complex equipment that they sell, then let them change it immediately. Remind them of the future perspective: Society of the RFP - court - payment for moral damages - payment of legal costs by them - publication of court documents on the Internet. Usually, in the second step (judgment), they agree to everything.
Good luck to you!

[Sonata]

You decide, Sonata... I would recommend that you forget about the gaskets until your HP runs out of warranty. And after too ...
Call Ozone and ask for phones warranty workshops. This is just their utter jamb. You didn't take it at the bazaar.
Promise them the awesome internet review they deserve. If these stunners do not know who should repair the complex equipment that they sell, then let them change it immediately. Remind them of the future perspective: Society of the RFP - court - payment for moral damages - payment of legal costs by them - publication of court documents on the Internet. Usually, in the second step (judgment), they agree to everything.
Good luck to you!

I will listen to you, Vitaly, Thank you! I will write a letter to Ozone. Thanks for the advice!

Hello. I will say that I read the last 10 pages of the forum and did not understand.My bread maker 2502 squeaks when kneading the dough and should it be? I just bought it yesterday and it’s my first, I ask for your help, otherwise I don’t want to mess around when I’ll take it to the store.
thank you in advance.

I do not creak, it works quietly. Well, if the dough is steep (it was like a case), then it can creak, or rather, it works noticeably loudly, hysterically. Check if you dropped something where the bucket is inserted. There was a case here - a piece of baked dough got in and complained about the creak of the bucket.

I had a creak once - I put the spatula unsuccessfully. But something about the creak was discussed here - read more than 10 pages (I know, it's hard, but when I chose HP, I read a lot of topics from cover to cover models)

Here is a video shot

Here is a video shot

No, well, it's finally tin! It's good that the video was filmed. This is clearly a marriage. We must return to the store.

[Valera1383]

Valera1383
Definitely a marriage.

Thank you, I will contact the store tomorrow

By the way, when you take it to the store, if you unlock it, attach a video to it.

Here is a video shot

I have the same
tomorrow I will try to return it and return the money

By the way, when you take it to the store, if you unlock it, attach a video to it.

they will most likely send to the service for verification

I have the same
tomorrow I will try to return it and return the money

Maybe this is the kind of party that went with marriage. Valera did not write from which city he was, maybe they took it in one store. If the whole batch is like that, then it must be taken from another delivery. It's strange in general. Panasonic has always been good. Maybe these CPs were going with the night shift by the Chinese after celebrating on the eve of some of theirs?

they will most likely send to the service for verification

I don’t know how in Russia, but here in Ukraine it is obligatory to change it within 2 weeks for any reason, even if, for example, its color is not very harmonious, as it turned out, with the color of the countertop. And if 2 weeks have already passed, then - the service center, expertise, all the cases.

Maybe this is such a party that went with a marriage.

release date last September, bought in Eldorado (smile banging his head against the wall)

[Valera1383]

Thank you, I will contact the store tomorrow

Valera1383, Could you take a picture of the stirrer-blade? It seems that it is curved and, when rotating, scrapes along the bottom of the bucket. Hence the bucket twitches. Change unambiguously. But the option of replacing the bucket will also be acceptable, but together with a spatula. You have two shoulder blades. Try another one.

I don’t know how in Russia, but here in Ukraine it is obligatory to change it within 2 weeks for any reason, even if, for example, its color is not very harmonious ...

This option will not work in either Ukraine or Russia. The bread maker was in use. The marriage should now be obvious.

good tomorrow evening with a photo, I took m internet store from Moscow

I don't know how in Russia, but here in Ukraine, within 2 weeks, they are obliged to change for any reason

we have a bread maker in a category from which you cannot change, if you just don’t like it, only because of marriage, and then if you keep within 2 weeks

You have two shoulder blades. Try another one.

I tried both, it creaks the same
if you push the bucket from top to bottom, the creak disappears
the impression is that there is some kind of bias
I have something else with the baking temperature, the bread turns out to be almost white and moist
before that I baked at 255 for 2 years, there were no problems

in I also creaks if the bucket is moved to the side, then the rules are all visible in the video