Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns

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but how to determine how much is needed if I put how much is written in the recipe

Just reduce and water by 30 mi yeast by a quarter.
Bake and tell.

clearly, in short, he took complete nonsense and, interestingly, he took two of them one to his parents and on both it turns out to be equally complete mess, although everything is according to the recipe

[Fighterboxing]

Fighterboxing, so, nothing is nonsense.
Nice stove!
You just understand, without weights, your bread will not work.
And the stove has nothing to do with it.
It will not work to measure with measuring glasses even with grams.
Take a scale and weigh the ingredients.

Yes, I read here people put it on the eye and they at least get something, but I generally have zero, apparently there is still something with the stoves

[Fighterboxing]

Fighterboxing, so, you don't want to listen to me?
I'm trying to help you.
Once again, I need a scale.

Reason for roof collapse:
1. A lot of yeast
2. Lots of water

I went through all this and therefore I know that the stove has nothing to do with it.
When kneading the dough, you should get a smooth bun.
If there is no kolobok, then the bread will not work,

I understood it all thanks. now as I understand that I put a lot of yeast and a lot of water and do everything according to the recipe it remains to find that freak who made these recipes

Only scales will help you. It is clear that the matter is in the ingredients. Do not spare a little more money, buy scales (you can cheap), do not forget to put on them exactly grams. I am sure that you will succeed. There were probably cases of not working Panasonic, but this seems to be not the case. Read about the transformation of an unhappy martyr into a happy baker.
Adventure with bread maker and scales

I never use the recipes from the books attached.
I know they are not right

here I am about this he must answer otherwise the people will fool

Masha, you are a little wrong about the recipes from Panasonic - they are correct, only in one recipe "Rye bread with bran" you need to immediately correct the amount of water in the instructions, reduce it by 100 ml, from 430 to 330. For some reason, they are exactly this mistake. reprinted for many years.

[Galina]

Galina, and so because of this, people do not work out anything.
I cook according to the recipe from the forum.
And never from books.
Well, or I'm correcting it myself.

And the man took the recipe from the book and nothing came of it and thinks the stove is bad.
But in fact, we need a scale).

if everything is so correct, how does it turn out that I put a lot of water if I put 260 ml in a measuring cup, or how much yeast if I put one teaspoon as in the recipe, or the stove was stuck in the marriage, or the recipe compiler wrote a complete mess to make fun of, or the compiler wrote I thought that the recipe book would not be bought by ordinary people who have never baked anything, but by the bakeries

I can understand your irritation after several unsuccessful attempts, but in the recipes, all the ingredients are indicated either in grams, or in branded measuring spoons, or in milliliters, too, from a measuring cup. Are you sure your glass is accurate? Even with weights, flour can have different weight and volume depending on the moisture content of the flour. And the flour and yeast themselves are of different quality. But this is a disassembly for a completely different topic - The bread rises, but falls inward. Causes.
And it would be nice to post a photo of unsuccessful bread. But first, take care of the weights.

In Panasonic, 99% are correct. Let's take the simplest recipe. It is called that - Simple bread. Or milk. It also turns out ALWAYS. We measure flour on a scale. And only on the scales! We measure the yeast and other ingredients with the attached spoon, without a slide (!). During kneading, we follow the kolobok.There is more than one topic on the forum about this. Read it.

While measuring the ingredients, take a picture of how much and what you put. And in what order. One friend bought 2502 from me, he also complained that it didn’t work. Then he came to me and did it for me - it turned out that everything in the recipe was correct. But the comrade simply did not follow the instructions. Threw everything to the eye, measured it wrong. After the master class, the recipes began to work out, and the experiments began. You don't understand what and how is wrong in the test, but you are already changing the quantities ...

So far, from your messages, only one can be understood "the stove is bad, I am good" ... With this attitude, not a single stove will work for you. Oh, something, and Panasonic ovens are one of the best in this area ... And they have clear recipes. Problems rarely occur, and they occur due to the haste and carelessness of the lucky owners.

1% of bad baked goods are due to bad yeast. Have you tested them for germination?

Do you use bakery flour of the highest grade?

You see how many questions, and you have only emotions ... And here you need not an emotional approach, but a simple and precise measurement of products.

[Fighterboxing]

I cook according to the recipe from the forum. And never from books.

And I am the opposite! Everything according to the recipe book. This is the third year already. In those rare cases when there are problems with baking, I start "rotation": a) I change the yeast for others and from another store; b) I change the flour and the manufacturer. There was a case when both had to be replaced. Glitches disappeared and bread began to come out again as usual - good.
If I comment on posts now Fighterboxing, then I will be banned again. So ...

If I comment on the Fighterboxing posts now, I will be banned again

Similarly
My eye twitches while reading.

Similarly

Tanya!

[Wit]

Wit, and I cook according to my recipes.
The main thing is to know the proportions and everything will always work out.
Panas rules!

Panas rules!

To the very point Masha! Observe the proportions. And measure them with normal weights, and not a steelyard in a string bag. And the liquid in a measuring glass, not a bucket by eye. And I also add, then a spoonful of dried garlic or ground coffee for a teaspoon. Sometimes I throw in half-smoked sausages. Panas rules!

[Vitaly]

Vitaly, , thats exactly what I mean)

Just a friend, he doesn't read or listen to what we write to him.

By the way, today I checked the stove, how it will bake bread without me in the morning.
I measured everything with scales !!!!
Firms water with a glass. I put it down, turned on the excellent start and went to bed.

Honestly worried that she would not collect flour from the corners of the bucket.

What a gorgeous bread! I am absolutely delighted!
And most importantly, without my participation!
Now I completely trust Panasik

Just a friend, he doesn't read or listen to what we write to him.

I think that comrade is an ordinary troll. Or he will no longer appear or appear in the topic with another bread maker, where he will write that happiness has come, he threw everything by eye and it turned out to be an excellent bread!

I bought a bread maker at one time to "throw everything and forget." Panas fulfills this condition, I don't know about others (yet).
And besides that, I got a bunch of additional features.
By the way, if I don't bet at night and if there is an opportunity to track the kolobok, I may well drop everything "by eye" in some cases. But, of course, within reason.
There were no frankly failed loaves. There were recipes that I didn't like, there were some failures with the appearance, and other minor defects.

There were no frankly failed loaves.

Likewise! For five years, I haven't thrown a single one, even if I forgot to put salt.

[lega]

lega, I once didn’t put sugar .. nothing, a loaf came out a little lower, but it still turned out

Can you please tell me who faced such a problem in the SD-2501: the previous baked goods went off with a bang. I put the next one - the bread maker does not turn on. There were no voltage drops. What could be the breakdown? Is it possible to somehow repair it yourself so that you don't take it to the service?

[Admin]

Admin, does not turn on how? Did you try to press the program selection buttons? Well, or for a start, turn it off from the outlet - plug it in again?

I checked the outlet, the power cord too. This is something with the unit itself. The display does not light up at all. Maybe there is some kind of fuse and it is enough to change it to get by with a small cost and time and money?

[Admin]

Admin, I read that the oven does not allow baking one after another
There is a thermal sensor that prevents the stove from turning on. When it cools down completely, it will be great.

[Admin]

AdminConsidering your location, did the rolling blackouts affect you? The oven could burn out at the moment of turning on / off the electricity.

Masinen
I think the problem is not in the thermal sensor. Much time has passed.

Mams
There are no rolling blackouts in our region. But voltage drops are certainly not excluded. But I have a voltage control relay at the power supply input to the house. When the voltage rises / falls, everything turns off.
And the previous cycle was fully worked out by the bread maker. And at the next. startup did not turn on. Although it cannot be ruled out that something burned out. If it burns out, then some kind of microcircuit is completely and needs to be taken to the service, or maybe there is some kind of protection in it and it is enough to change some fuse? Or maybe the electronics are frozen and you can somehow "overload" it?

The stove will cool down and turn on as if nothing had happened!

Eh, if only ... It has already cooled down 100 times. But did not turn on

[sazalexter]

Admin, it looks like you have a problem. There are fuses, but you still have to be able to get to them. And fuses from nefig do not fly. This does not mean that you have a cool breakdown by definition. It may be a trifle. I still remember how a certain device with a failed display was repaired in my service. They opened it in front of me, poked it with a screwdriver and ... 200 rubles per barrel for 3 minutes of work, 2 and a half of which were spent on unscrewing and tightening the screws. How did you test the power cord? Have you opened the HP case? Email Sasha sazalexter... He's our bread maker guru. I think he will help you and, if anything, will give you a link to the HP disassembly guide. There is such a very detailed one. Sasha appeared on the 74th page. Scroll back and PM him. Good luck!

[Admin]

Admin, I read that the oven does not allow baking one after another
There is a thermal sensor that prevents the stove from turning on. When it cools down completely, it will be great.

Yes, Mashunya, Yes! I have - two panasonic and a brand - until it cools down, it won't work!

["... She has already cooled down 100 times ..."]

Admin writes: "... She has already cooled down 100 times ..."

[Vitaly]

Vitaly, we have already realized that this is not the case.

[Masinen]

Masinen,

Wit
The power cord "rang" with a probe screwdriver - everything is in order with it. Contacts are also normal.
Thanks a lot for the advice!
Now I will write sazalexter

[Admin]

Admin, Start / stop not responding?

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,
Start / Stop does not respond.
Thank you very much for the instructions sent. I'll try to carefully disassemble and dig deeper (without fanaticism)

Please tell me, in SD 2501, should 00 appear on the display when connected to the network, or should the display generally be without indicators? I have the number of the previous program that I was running before. It turns out that it does not reset when the bread machine is turned off?

[barbariscka]

barbariscka, Shows 00 in 20 after disconnection if my memory serves me.

I'll try to carefully disassemble and dig deeper (without fanaticism)

Recently, electrolytic capacitors have become a big problem in any electronics. If they are there, drop them out and change them unambiguously! Even if the tops are not swollen. As far as I understand, you don't have a device for testing. And they are not worth it. In your case, they cost a penny and are everywhere where radio components are sold. How much equipment has been saved so! Completely different and with different symptoms. One person three times the timer microcontroller in the management of heated floors changed and stitched, respectively, until prompted

[barbariscka]

barbariscka, Shows 00 in 20 after disconnection if my memory serves me.

Thanks Alexander, I'll check ...

Added on Tuesday 28 Mar 2017 06:20

The display still shows the previous program number ...

[barbariscka]

barbariscka, my mom's 2501, the same is displayed as yours. And how does it bother you? What is the problem?

The display still shows the previous program number ...

Should it be otherwise?
In my bread maker, the number of the previous program is always displayed. I didn't see two zeros.
I have a Panasonic 2500.

Thanks again for the service instructions - disassembled and repaired
The fuse did fly

[Katris]

Katris, TaiaThank you girls! This was not in the old bread maker and I was afraid that some kind of breakdown in the new one. Logically speaking, it should have been reset. Good. when you have someone to ask, now you can calm down. that everything is all right.

[Vasilisa]

Vasilisa, you are welcome!
I even went to double-check myself, looked at what the display shows. I thought, I'll tell you, what if I missed something.