Masha Ivanova
Rasti, Lyudmila, perhaps you are right about the ruble account. I am describing the situation that I had. The main thing is that the goods can (and should) be returned to them, although they may try to put up all sorts of resistance over the phone at first, send them to the warranty workshop (which in no case should be done!) The girls are right, you need to invite elders, chiefs, etc. n, in extreme cases, raise your voice.
rasti
Quote: Masha Ivanova
Rasti, Lyudmila, perhaps you are right about the ruble account.
I mean that the ruble account and the point account is the difference, I wrote so that people would not be mistaken when paying.
Judge for yourself, how can a store allow you to spend your money looking back at the permitted percentage.
Masha Ivanova
rasti, pepper is clear that these are different things! I say it again, I had it that way until I yelled at them. I am also trying to warn the person that they can start kicking and mislead the person. Forewarned, as you know, means armed.
rasti
Masha Ivanova,
katyaspb
rasti, Masha Ivanova, Kivi,
Girls, thank you very much for the advice, it will be very useful to me, I did not know much about ozone
Quote: Masha Ivanova

Forewarned, as you know, means armed.
That's for sure, thanks
Rituslya
katyaspb, come on, Katyun, go for it. Everything will definitely work out. A million kulakov for good luck!
Grass is just not like that by default.
Don't be sad, honey.
katyaspb
Rituslya,
Katko
Princess baked me a cake according to the speech of Country Bread from Mistletoe
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Tricia
Hello everyone!
I am now also a happy owner of the Princess
I brought you my yesterday's experiment to show off: delicious potato cutlets with zucchini (4 raw potatoes, medium zucchini, onion, garlic, 4 tablespoons of semolina, baked without oil at all, on a Teflon sheet). Delicious! 10 min. from a cold state on one side and 5-7 min. another.
Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300Lenten potato and zucchini cutlets (Pizza Maker Princess)
(Tricia)

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So tasty and so fast, just stunned!
Podmosvichka
Tricia, Nastya, very interesting
I'll have to try: girl-yes: I need to draw up a recipe so that you can bookmark
kavmins
Tricia, great recipe! yes, it would be nice to arrange it so as not to get lost
Tricia
Aygul
Quote: Katris

All, already removed the 15% discount. Only 7% remained.
I managed to order for 3944 rubles.
Yes, I am also "sick", because I already have a Princess.
Eh, Katya-Katya-Katerina
individual owner here you are who I would also take GF for the company, but now I’ll think again - I’ll not
Rituslya
I ordered this stove for 5000 + scales. Now it turned out that I still use weights much more often!
kavmins
Aygul, yes there are new discounts every day - messages with discounts constantly come to my mobile - maybe you can wait for an excellent discount on this grill!))
Katris
Aygul, answered you in a personal)
valushka-s
Quote: Rituslya

I ordered this stove for 5000 + scales. Now it turned out that I still use weights much more often!
Ritual, why don't you use GF a little? She's kind of good.
Leonidovna
Girls, help! Who baked charlotte in the princess, how much is needed (sugar, flour, eggs) so that the top does not burn? I couldn't find the recipe.
Irgata
Quote: Leonidovna
how much do you need
delicious
Rituslya
Oh,Valyush, I have so much accumulated from kitchen toys that I do not have time to cook in them, so the scales are in use more often.
Leonidovna
IrshaThank you, put the form with the dough in the cold Princess bake for 15 minutes and cool down for 10 minutes, did I understand correctly?
Ekaterina2
Today I baked in the VNK Prince. Class! I was always afraid of biscuits, it sounded out of my reach. And here .... I mixed the dough longer.
RepeShock
Quote: Ekaterina2
VNK baked.

What does it mean?
Masinen
RepeShock, Irin, this is, if I'm not mistaken, Vanilla on boiling water))
Irgata
Quote: Leonidovna
put the form with the dough in the cold Princess, bake for 15 minutes and cool down for 10
only 10 minutes for off = still baking with might and main, the heat is enough
Leonidovna
IrshaThank you Ira.
Ekaterina2
RepeShock, yes, this is a vanilla sponge cake on boiling water.
Masinen, thanks for the timely clarification
RepeShock

Masinen, Masha, that's it))) thanks)


Added Monday 11 Jul 2016 7:24 PM

Quote: Ekaterina2
yes, it's a vanilla sponge cake on boiling water.

Got it)
Bijou
Quote: Tricia
I brought you my yesterday's experiment to show off: delicious potato cutlets with zucchini (4 raw potatoes, medium zucchini, onion, garlic, 4 tablespoons of semolina, baked without oil at all, on a Teflon sheet). Delicious!
I came to say thank you and give a plus.)
Really surprisingly tasty, especially with a bit of sour cream.
I did everything by eye, having received approximately equal parts of salted and squeezed zucchini and potatoes. Turla on Burner with straws. I added some pretty hard cheese to Zhmenka. Fried on a Teflon rug.

Very very nice! I don't really like pancakes or zucchini pancakes, but here such a wonderful compromise is direct.))
Flo
Dear ladies, I choose a pizza oven, I read the entire introductory part of the topic, but since the topic itself is very voluminous, I ask the owners of these devices, if not difficult, to clarify some points.)

1. As I understand it, the most common are two units: Princess and Travola, and is it advisable to choose between the two?

2. The difference between Princess and Travola: Princess roasts well, Travola works softer and bakes better, both machines complement each other and you need to choose the one whose functions are preferable for me (there is no clarity in this matter for me, since having studied your recipes, I realized that I needed pies, pizzas, and Durovka). So what to prefer? And how are they in terms of workmanship, coating?

3. And as for the accessories: about the boards for lining under the stoves, so as not to spoil the tabletop with strong heating, I understood. And inside that it is better to buy rugs and / or molds, silicone (but someone wrote that you can't put it in the stove - it is harmful and what changes or worsens the taste of the dish?) Or metal, just paper or nets someone else described? What material to prefer (since pizza pies will be consumed by children, this question is of particular concern to me)? What to buy as a starter kit so that you can immediately start using the stove fully?

I would be very grateful for your answers!)
Lerele
Flo, there is no grass, there are princesses with good coverage. So I can't answer n1, 2.
I put a silicone mat under the stove, not a board, I don't have one.
You can put baking paper inside, I even fried potatoes on it. Then I bought long-lasting baking mats, they are thin like paper. Here somewhere in the subject showed them. But they are not silicone, I don’t even know from what.
Bijou
Quote: Flo
Having studied your recipes, I realized that I need pies, pizzas, and Durovka). So what to prefer?
I think the Princess. In extreme cases, disconnecting from the network, preventing overheating and burning, is still easier than "adding heat" in a device that is weak in terms of heating.) Plus, it is more spacious.

The simplest liner to wash less is baking paper. On Paklane, I haven't fried potatoes yet, but my daughter browns all nonsense. And I often make pizza on it.

The popular rug he is probably talking about Lerele, this is something like this - 🔗 ... It is sold under different brands both in our stores, and on Ali, and just by the meter in large rolls like fabrics in catering stores. I typed in the spring in the Lenta rubles for 100 with a change. They, unlike silicone, fit to the bottom very obediently, without folds.

The coating itself is normal, although I have already managed to ditch mine - I got sick without washing the Princess after the stuffed peppers. When I rushed, the frying pan, like any self-respecting silumin in a wet state, slightly peeled off from one edge. It does not interfere, but began to use rugs more often.))
marina-mm
Vera, Princess and Travola have long been in use, most have them, and both work for me.
Now new ones have appeared on sale, for example GF. If I choose today, I would probably choose GF. She is like a Princess, but with a timer and temperature control. But there is still a difference in price, the new stove costs almost like Princess and Travola together
If you still choose from Princess and Travola, then Princess. In it, both pies and durovka are good. You just need to follow, there is no timer.
I cook pastries and meat, cutlets in the Princess without molds and substrates. The coating is good, it is easy to wash off, I remove the fat with a damp sponge and dry mustard, it's safe. I use the mold for baking fish, so as not to wash, the metal mold allows heat to pass through better, glass and silicone will heat themselves for a long time.
It is convenient to fry potatoes and so on on a Teflon sheet, it is reusable and thin as paper. I made a jellied pie on this. Convenient to take out on the sheet again. And teflon sheet saves sweet pastries from excessive heat. Something like that.
Lena, Bijou wrote about the same Teflon sheet-rug.
Tanyush @ ka
And I got my princeska on the weekend, I was already baking pizzas, pies with yeast dough, lean pies with cabbage, thanks to everyone for the advice to buy such a good helper, everything is so quick to prepare and it is not so difficult to stand and watch the preparation Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300
Ekaterina2
Tanyush @ ka, with the purchase! And the pies are so beautiful!
Lera-7
Tanyush @ ka, Tanya, congratulations on your purchase, let it please you a little longer! Cool pies turned out.
Tanyush @ ka
Thank you very much girls, I bought it thanks to your advice.
S * lena
Tanyush @ ka, (y) Very appetizing and beautiful pies! I still want to eat!
With a new assistant, let you please!
Tanyush @ ka
S * lenaThank you Elena:
Lud-Mil @
Quote: Bijou
The coating itself is normal, although I have already managed to ditch mine - I got sick without washing the Princess after the stuffed peppers. When I rushed, the frying pan, like any self-respecting silumin in a wet state, slightly peeled off from one edge.
Yesterday I had the same sadness with Travola.
I left for a couple of days, and upon returning, I found out that my son had forgotten the half-eaten in it, began to wash it - I see that the coating with such small bubbles swelled in places of contact with food. I remembered that in the topic about the pancake Orion, someone also wrote that the coating peeled off after they forgot what was cooked in it. So, girls, don't leave food in your stoves, shift it right away. So sorry for Grass, no words, I love her even more than the Princess, it is clear that I will still use her, but now I have to bother with rugs, with paper, and most of all I liked that you can cook without any adaptation, right in frying pan.
Masha Ivanova
And if you try to apply a new coating?
Bijou
What's the point?)
On bare aluminum, a new "non-stick" crust will slowly grow, as on an aluminum or cast-iron pan. There is almost no sticking, especially if there are few bookmarks. But if I fry a bucket of zucchini, then yes, it starts to stick a little in the fifth pan in those places. But in any case, at this time it is time to wash the pan before further use.
Mrs. Addams
Girls, if someone suddenly comes across a silicone mold PYREX Flexi Twist 28cm at normal cost and with self-pickup in St. Petersburg - beep, please. I didn't buy something in the fall here:

🔗

I didn't seem to need it, now I want it, but everywhere there is such a price tag and delivery.
The same case - it is better to buy and regret than not to buy and
Belka13
Mrs. Addams, - 613 + 149 rubles self-pickup. I searched cheaper, but did not find
win-tat
Our eggplants dropped in price, and again with my favorite vegetable casserole
On a burner with thin petals potatoes, eggplants, tomatoes, onions in quarter rings, salt layers, pour seasonings, on top of the onion a little mayonnaise and grated cheese. 25 minutes from cold.
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Tricia
Quote: Irsha

delicious
What a delicious charlotte recipe Irshi! And without a form, and for the first time in my life in Princess!
My stove fries a little more reactive than Irinina, therefore the top is slightly baked (to the color of chocolate, but not to the burners), but this is not scary - it did not affect the taste. In the next. once put on 8 minutes. from a cold state and 8-10 minutes after shutdown.Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300
My husband and I are very happy!
Mrs. Addams
Belka13, thanks Yes, by far this is the most inexpensive option.
Sveta * lana
Mrs. Addams, as an option will not work? available on ozone - silicone cake mold "Regent Inox", with stand, color: blue, diameter 30 cm
win-tat
Anastasia Tricia, Thank you ! She took the form in the online store OdinShag at the end of last year, but she is no longer there. The shape is very good, heavy, the coating is great
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