Bread Maker Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS

[Maryl]

MarylThe Panasonic SD-ZB2502BTS weighs 1250g, and the new SD-ZB2512KTS weighs 1000

Thank you so much!

Hello everybody! Today we purchased SD-ZB2512KTS, ​​before that there was no bread maker. This month, after registering on this forum, we bought a Brand 6060 smokehouse, we are very satisfied, but today here is a bread maker. We tried to bake the main bread, the result exceeded all our expectations.

[the same in all models ....]

Panasonic SD-ZB2502BTS weighs 1250g, and new SD-ZB2512KTS weighs 1000

No, you are wrong. They have exactly the same loaves. Look at the recipes, they have not changed since the 255th model. Therefore, what is in one of the 600gr. you will get a loaf per kilo, which in another of the same 600 grams will have the same loaf per 1 kg ... And if you bake bread with additives, then in one and the other model you will get a loaf of 1250 grams.

This is an inaccuracy on the sites .. Dimensions the same in all models ....

The bread has cooled down, cut, tasted - very tasty!



The crust is crispy, the crumb is baked throughout, not moist. Loaf size - medium, dark crust (4h. 5min.).
During kneading, it made a low noise, did not move on the tabletop, the sound of the dispenser was unexpected, but not so loud (clicked 8 times).

I ordered this miracle, I'm waiting !!! I suffered for a long time with the choice, the bread maker was the first, I understand little in the characteristics, but after a week of torment I ordered this one
I was surprised that so far there are few reviews, apparently the model is new.

[Suliko]

Suliko, this is the next version of the 2502. You can read the reviews about them. Almost no different. Purely cosmetic changes, and a couple of new programs. Technically it's the same 2502

please tell me in model 2512 the lid is just covered but does not snap tightly ??? it does not fit snugly against the stove itself - so it should be ?? isn't the temperature lost during baking?

[ilana1970]

ilana1970, in these stoves the lid does not snap into place. It is heavy and thick enough not to pop during kneading or release the temperature. Don't worry, these ovens bake excellent bread.

[Olga]

Olga, Thank you! The bread maker is already at home, I'll try it tomorrow! I went to read about 2502

[ilana1970]

ilana1970, in these stoves, the lid does not snap into place. It is heavy and thick enough not to pop during kneading or release the temperature. Don't worry, these ovens bake excellent bread.

thanks for the quick answer, otherwise I was just worried that something was broken in the lid

I recently bought a Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS to replace the Philips 9020 (I served for 3 years, gave it to my mother, I'm tired of it!).
About Panasonic. I really like it, so far I have tried only the wheat-rye program 9 and today is the dough for pancakes. Delightful! The dough is obtained for 10 pieces, just right. Cooked and ate. I started the program, cooked it, open it, baaaaa, and there all the ingredients, like after the bookmark, did not even mix. I forgot to put on a shoulder blade))))) 2 hours and 20 minutes under the dog's tail. Well, what to do - I raked the food, the yeast is already there and the raisins too, I put on a spatula and again program No. 17 for the second round. No problem, an excellent dough was prepared. Very tasty. The photo shows what I managed to photograph.

Tomorrow I'll put on the bread, I haven't decided which one yet.

Many questions arise, although I only changed the stove. Please tell me in the recipe book Almost all recipes with butter. Can you replace it with ghee or vegetable?
What can replace whole wheat flour in a recipe? If I put plain wheat instead, do I need to somehow change the amount of water or leave everything as it is in the recipe? Thanks in advance for your answers or poke me on the topic you need.

[Bast1nda]

Bast1nda, can be replaced with vegetable. It's not worth it for ghee (we don't need an increase in fat content).

You can replace white sugar with dark, or honey, or molasses. But any changes to the recipe are under the control of the kolobok in order to have time to correct the situation.

There is no need to replace whole grain, you can buy it and taste bread with it. It's delicious. In general, questions are good. You walk the forum. Read the bread section. Well, a lot of useful information.

Greetings to the members of the bakers guild!

I'm thinking about buying a Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS for the new year. I read about baking for 4 hours ...

I wonder if you can just stir the dough with yeast in the oven, and then take it out and bake it in a regular oven? Is there such a possibility - to take it out at the test stage? It seems then it should turn out faster - oven + oven

The overwhelming majority of members of the forum do just that!

I read about baking for 4 hours ...

And what is scary in this process? You are not kneading the dough with your hands all these hours? 4 hours is a very common process from kneading to a finished loaf. There is also a 6 hour long loaf in this HP, French. The ovens can work at night. I put the food in, chose the mode, set the time. In the morning I took out a bar.

There is a dough kneading program. 2 hours 20 minutes. After that, you can put the finished dough into molds, and you still need proofing, at least 30-40 minutes, plus baking for about an hour. In general, it will not work faster.

These are automatic Bread Makers. Everything is done automatically.

The overwhelming majority of members of the forum do just that!

Awesome! Isn't it critical for the stove if it is stopped at an intermediate stage?

There is a dough kneading program. 2 hours 20 minutes. After that, you can put the finished dough into molds, and you still need proofing, at least 30-40 minutes, plus baking for about an hour. In general, it will not work faster.

Well, yes, it is logical ... But the duration of the dough kneading is confusing - 2 hours 20 minutes ... Maybe on the contrary - knead yourself and put the dough in the oven ... or is there no such program? I myself will make the dough in 15 minutes in the kitchen. harvester.

[Trimbombom]

TrimbombomThere are certain stages in the production of bread, skipping which, you will get the taste at best a "pie" but not bread.

Mкams, thanks for the answer! I have not met whole grain flour with us, even with grade 1, the problem is that everywhere only the highest. Buckwheat, rice, oatmeal is packaged in 500 grams and everything, I have not seen others. Replacing oil with vegetable oil means allowed, right? And then Phillips in the recipe book had everything on vegetable. But the duration of the programs is the same, but the stages are different. Panasonic has temperature equalization. And the number of batches is different in the cycle. I have already wandered through the section on Panasonic, studying.

You should NOT bother making the dough yourself, I compared this process of kneading the same piece of dough in HB and by hand. From HP in structure and even in color it is different. No hands will sweep as perfectly as this toiler. It is not for nothing that it is called not a bakery, but a HOME BAKERY. And I knead any kind of dough only in it. And if this is yeast for pies, then I choose the program with proofing. Trust me, this is the best there is. And no harvesters can compare. Yes, the cooking process is not quick, then bake at night. I use it 4 years in a row, on average every other day. The whole process of making any dough and baking bread I entrust only to HB, and you will spend your free time on something else pleasant for yourself. and again, do not bother.

Hello everyone, finally we also bought an SD-ZB2512KTS bread maker as a gift to my husband-dad (although he is not yet aware of his happiness) Yesterday I baked my first bread, it turned out very tasty (ordinary white bread, mode 01 size M), today baked the same, only in a spoonful of rast. I fried the onions, everything was fine, the bun also turned out, but for 1 hour 30 minutes we turned off the light for almost an hour. When e. e. dali drew attention to the fact that the dough rose very much, almost to the top of the bucket, but I was afraid to crush it and, probably, in vain. Turned on the baking mode. The bread turned out to be very high and a bit too "fluffy".Tell me, pliz, how to act in such a situation, or "poke" into Temka where you can ask! Thank you!

Good day! Today I became the happy owner of this unit. The first loaf has already been kneaded and at the moment, judging by the program, the dough should rise)) The kneading process was quite quiet. I was in the kitchen and did not immediately understand what these sounds were))) Having listened to guess where the tapping came from)))))))))) But the dispenser ..... uuuhhh !!! 3 times I clicked so that I was even scared of surprise))) At night, from such a sound, the whole family will wake up for sure!
I started to write a review, because a question appeared! Reading the characteristics of this model, I somewhere stumbled upon the fact that the display should have a backlight! Or I'm wrong!??? I studied the Internet for 2 days and my head is already such a mess ...

somewhere I stumbled upon the fact that the display should have a backlight!

no, there is no backlight on the display, I also read it, the person just made a mistake)) Yes, there is clearly visible without backlight. It's too bad that it wasn't a window for observing the dough, I was jumping around Kh.B. today, I was afraid that the dough would "run away" after turning off the light))

And where is the description in two columns (... to see you need to move the picture to the right and left ...) about the display backlight?
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but I don't like bread at all
spring water, country oil, sugar and additives for aroma selected ...
to no avail, comes out molded. Earlier it was called stern. They took the pigs ...

but I don't like bread at all

Well, what does the stove have to do with it !? There are a lot of recipes for every taste. And you need to do it accurately, accurately - and everything will work out.

[chelsi]

chelsi, Thanks for the answer, calmed down The display is really clear, but about the window ... I think it's not for nothing that it is not! When I was choosing a model for a bread machine, I found complaints that just the window was a drawback, because the necessary heat escapes through it, the bread turns out to be unsuccessful and the housewives do not close it with anything! Therefore, I considered models without windows

Therefore, I considered models without windows

And it is right!

Tell me, pliz, how to act in such a situation ..

I think the easiest and fastest is to put the bucket (by covering it with something) in the refrigerator and some other cool place. Turn off the stove and wait .. Then heat the bucket in the service mode and turn on the baking.

Well, what does the stove have to do with it !? There are a lot of recipes for every taste. And you need to do it accurately, accurately - and everything will work out.

Parallon from McDonald's. Everything was accurate and accurate, but not better.

There is no window because it is not useful.

Parallon from McDonald's. Everything was accurate and accurate, but not better.

Knead in a bread maker and bake in the oven. If you don't like it there, then the recipe is as follows.

If you do it strictly according to the instructions and according to the recipe, then they don’t eat your bread, everyone doesn’t like it ... insipid and tasteless but seemingly beautiful, like everyone else here, the pictures show!
I have already introduced significant changes to the whole process and products, and only this somehow saves
Now I will experience fundamental changes, hope has not died yet.
By the way: the appearance of bread made in the oven is very easy to control.

Mmmmm ... I'm sitting there eating my first bread I knead on both cheeks
What can you say !? DELIGHT!!!!
For the first time, for acquaintance, I took the very first recipe) I threw everything into the shape by eye)) I haven't got a kitchen scale yet, so a regular measuring glass came in handy) sugar, salt put as indicated with ordinary teaspoons: girl_haha: when the turn of yeast came ... I remembered the included spoon in the kit, so the yeast turned out as it should)))
The result of all this disgrace is a cute loaf of bread! As for the taste ... definitely better than the store one and everything is fine, but the only thing that confuses me is the smell of yeast that appeared at the end of the program and filled the entire space of the apartment, while the bread itself does not smell like them ... One of these days I will buy scales and do everything strictly according to the instructions.
And now a QUESTION! How to store bread ?? As usual in polyethylene or it is enough just to cover it with a towel, especially now, when it has not yet completely cooled down, and you want to sleep as much as you want (((

I think the easiest and fastest is to put the bucket (by covering it with something) in the refrigerator and some other cool place. Turn off the stove and wait .. Then heat the bucket in the service mode and turn on the baking.

thanks, but tell the "teapot" what service mode is and where to find it?

I'll answer myself here about the service mode https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=394126.0 (suddenly someone else "hits")

And now a QUESTION! How to store bread ?? As usual in polyethylene or it is enough just to cover it with a towel, especially now, when it has not yet completely cooled down, and you want to sleep as much as you want (((

read here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=144383.0

[chelsi]

chelsi, Thank you

Good day! Please tell me, there is a measuring spoon in the kit. How many teaspoons and tablespoons are in it? In each container, spoons, 2 spoons or one. That is, two teaspoons is a small container of a measuring spoon filled up to the top? Or, after all, a fully filled container is one teaspoon. The fact is that in my previous stove there were 2 spoons in each container, 2 teaspoons on one side, and 2 tablespoons on the other. And what about Panasonic?

On the one hand, a small container is 1 hour. l. , on the other hand, this is 1 tbsp. l.

Thank you! And I have baked it five times already and I measure everything in half of the container! And, most importantly, the bread is excellent. Half a spoonful of sugar, salt, yeast !!! I give. There is nothing to spoil this stove))))) Thank you again for your quick reply!

Hello everyone) I'm new to this section, I suffered for a long time and chose a bread maker and now I bought a Panasonic 2512 with my husband
We are already preparing the third bun and are very satisfied, for us it is like a funny toy. Threw the food in order according to the recipe and wait until it is ready)
Still little experience, but so far I like everything, today I made bread from 1-grade flour, seemingly beautiful, but I'll try it only in the morning

Yesterday I baked bread from different flours (wheat, corn, flakes). Great recipe and delicious bread! Yeast put 3/4 teaspoon)))) and it turned out great!

I learned everything about the volume of spoons, I will continue to put the ingredients as expected!))))

As a rule, there is little salt in bread recipes; after factory bread, homemade bread seems bland. Salt factories do not regret it. And yet, in rye breads for the usual taste, replace part of the water with vinegar for 1 hour. l-1st. l to taste.

Can you have fruit vinegar?

Happy New Year, everyone! And take it into your ranks, yesterday I also bought 2512, something with them disappeared, then prices jumped, and yesterday I accidentally looked at Eldorado, and there they were 8000 each, I ordered it and took it! I'm getting ready to put on the bread and until I figure out where to start, for sandwiches with caviar, which one is needed, ordinary white or French (but here is milk powder, but I don't have it yet)? And the second question, in the recipe for ordinary white, two lines of yeast -B and R, in post 55 of this branch I read that B is ordinary baked goods, and R is accelerated, meaning fast-acting yeast or what? That is, it is necessary to mix it like this, and not to lay 3 people of the same type? Yes, I haven’t found flour of the 1st grade yet, all the highest, I forgot, 3 more questions, but in order to bake not white, but ordinary gray bread, what is this program, or does it just need another flour?

B is regular baked goods and R

The amount of fast-acting yeast and nothing more.
White bread https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1016.0

and ordinary gray bread

Yes, I haven't found 1st grade flour yet,

this is not necessary, you need rye flour, malt, whole grain flour https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=262.0

Can you have fruit vinegar?

Even necessary! Fruity, apple, white wine - best of all the one you like. Just watch the strength, it can be from 3 to 9%, respectively, a little more weak, a little less strong.

Hello everybody! Happy New Year! Finally, I ordered myself 2512 for 7989 r in Eldorado.Please tell me what to look for and what to check, otherwise the price is too suspicious, what if it's a fake ?!