Which vacuum cleaner to buy?

now there are such models of washing vacuum cleaners that collect dust in a bag. so you don't need to clean the vacuum cleaner after every cleaning. I have had a detergent for 4 years, and I use niche almost every day.

Julia, that's not the point ...
I also use a robotic one every day and throw the garbage out not from the bag, but from the container after each cleaning, but I use my Hewley once a week, or even in 2 weeks and I don’t tell anyone - Robot G., Thomas too, etc. It seems to me that you can advise what you like best, describing the advantages of your own .. I have everything in use and the washing machine and Robik-Zhorik ..

Well Robika I have no current in my dreams

Well Robika I have no current in my dreams

and I have the cheapest of the robots, zero, so to speak, complete set ... Cleans better than Samsung. which I threw out not so long ago

Was Samsung a robot too?

Was Samsung a robot too?

no, ordinary dust with a bag

Girls, it all depends on the lifestyle, our employment, the availability of free time and .... Each has its own arguments for and against. Personally, I leave for work at 6-55, I don't show up until 18-00. In the evening, the whole family drifts around the living room-kitchen, dropping crumbs, hair, and the like. In spring-summer-autumn, sawdust and herbs are brought from the street. sand, etc. And the dust itself is taken from somewhere. Somewhere at 10-00 they run to sleep. And again in a circle from the next morning. I have dry-washing, and vertical vacuum cleaners, and a steam generator, and I bought a lazy mop. But got it tired of fiddling with them in the evening or in the morning.
Let me have a robot in my absence at least in the middle of the rooms will clean everything that is on the floor, and then I will wash the floor. And I'll take my time to the corners.
To each his own...

It will be necessary to look at the Boshevsky vacuum cleaner in the store, judging by the reviews, a good unit.

Indeed, the Bosch Rann vacuum cleaner is a good option, the main thing is powerful and cleans the air well, even from the smallest particles. When we bought it for ourselves, we immediately felt this ability of it - it really became easier to breathe. I also really like its ability to honk when the filter needs to be cleaned.

no, ordinary dust with a bag

Clear. I was interested in reviews about the Samsung robot from real users.

[Edera]

Edera, what kind of robot do you have?

Rumba 770, it seems, I don't remember exactly

So dry I also use it every day. Only it is half the size of the detergent and much more convenient. And if you still carry a bag, then why carry a bigger one?))

And then the cleaning is different. The detergent washes, not just vacuums. Slightly different things, and different tasks. You won't wash dry anyway.

Girls, it all depends on the lifestyle, our employment, the availability of free time and .... Each has its own arguments for and against. Personally, I leave for work at 6-55, I don't show up until 18-00. In the evening, the whole family drifts around the living room-kitchen, dropping crumbs, hair, and the like. In spring-summer-autumn, sawdust and herbs are brought from the street. sand, etc. And the dust itself is taken from somewhere. Somewhere at 10-00 they run to sleep. And again in a circle from the next morning. I have dry-washing, and vertical vacuum cleaners, and a steam generator, and I bought a lazy mop. But got it tired of fiddling with them in the evening or in the morning.
Let me have a robot in my absence at least in the middle of the rooms will clean everything that is on the floor, and then I will wash the floor. And I'll take my time to the corners.
To each his own...

I agree in your case it is convenient.But whatever one may say, you still have to clean up afterwards. You write yourself that he only removes everything cosmetically for you. If I take an additional vacuum cleaner with the washing one, I would take a dry one of the simplest. My husband can go through it if I'm at work. Although many detergents are also dry at the same time. And not all detergents with an aquafilter. In fact, there are plenty to choose from.

If I take an additional vacuum cleaner with the washing one, I would take a dry one of the simplest. My husband can go through it if I'm at work.

Here is the most common mistake!
Such a "temporary" vacuum cleaner "on the hook" very quickly turns into the main one (because the detergent is used extremely rarely, only for general cleaning). Of course, it's a good idea to grab a light and powerful vacuum cleaner that is always ready for use.

But he is not so hot, since he is "one of the simplest". The pleasure of a vacuum cleaner and attachments can be neglected if you really want to save money, but when an inexpensive device and bags are bought from the same price category, then the owner steps on his throat. After all, bad dust collectors filter disgustingly, evenly spraying the sucked up micro-dust through the air. From day to day, all life between the generals ... And this is what we and our children breathe. Citizens, don't skimp on bags!

And I'm not saying that you need to buy a cheap vacuum cleaner in addition to washing. I wrote this as an example for those who prefer to take a robot in addition to such a vacuum cleaner. Personally, one vacuum cleaner is enough for me. After all, it can be cleaned both in dry mode and in washing mode.

I also choose ...

IMHO, Philips FC9174 / 01

Quiet, reliable, powerful. The suction power at the maximum is such that it raises the edges of the carpet with a 4 cm pile, and if you forget to switch the carpet brush mode and try to vacuum the floor, it sucks in so that you can hardly tear it off ...
The turbo brush is good too ... but unfortunately cannot be used on deep pile carpets.
And, quiet, at medium power, you can easily vacuum in a sleeping child's room.

Worth the money.
After him all sorts of Roventa with Eletrolux nervously smoke on the sidelines.
In my opinion, at the moment, one of the best representatives of the classic "dry" vacuum cleaners.

[to help him]

IMHO, Philips FC9174 / 01

Quiet, reliable, powerful.

In my opinion, at the moment, one of the best representatives of the classic "dry" vacuum cleaners.

Excellent "IMHO", top class! This is a really great vacuum cleaner for the money.

And I'm not saying that you need to buy a cheap vacuum cleaner in addition to the washing one.

Well, it means I stepped and this is not your post 6yl, about a simple dry to help the washer, which even my husband can vacuum, I apologize.))

Well, my IMHO is that a normal dry vacuum cleaner is bought into the house for fast, regular and high-quality cleaning.
And now to help him everything else is bought in addition - a washing one for those who need to wash a lot, a steam generator for approximately the same purposes, an electric broom in the kitchen and (or) a ro6ot, which will independently maintain a certain conditional cleanliness, which is the main reason for cleaning less often.

[to help him]

Well, my IMHO is that a normal dry vacuum cleaner is bought into the house for fast, regular and high-quality cleaning.
And now to help him everything else is bought in addition - a washing one for those who need to wash a lot, a steam generator for approximately the same purposes, an electric broom in the kitchen and (or) a ro6ot, which will independently maintain a certain conditional cleanliness, which is the main reason for cleaning less often.

I fully support, we did it :)

So in my opinion, we are all talking about the same thing, only in different words.
That you need to have several vacuum cleaners at home for different purposes. One is a must for quick, even daily cleaning. That would be always at hand and without much preparation and cleaning afterwards.
The second is for major weekly cleaning.
And only further on requests and opportunities.
The main thing is that it is impossible to choose a universal vacuum cleaner for all purposes and that would satisfy in everything.It just doesn't happen.

So in my opinion, we are all talking about the same thing, only in different words.
That you need to have several vacuum cleaners at home for different purposes.

Yes, but the accents are different.
I just because a dry (everyday) vacuum cleaner was bought not according to the residual principle "buy a6y what, I still have the best in my closet."

Of course. I agree. For example, I only have 2 rooms and rugs with a small nap. Therefore, I, for example, prefer to clean it with an electric broom (this is the one that sweeps up, otherwise women write about compact dust on the topic of EV). Lightweight, no wires. He grabbed it and quickly swept it up that the children were upset, or my wife and I. It is good to clean up without unnecessary body movements. And dust for dry cleaning with a bag is already for more "grand" and voluminous cleaning.

I decided on the model of the washing vacuum cleaner. Tell me, can you ask a question about detergents for a vacuum cleaner here or is there a special topic for this?
Worrying about whether you can use a non-native remedy at Thomas, for example, lock or vanish.
Or just your own.
And is it possible to just pour water without detergent.
Will it ruin the vacuum cleaner?

Well, it means I stepped and this is not your post 6yl, about a simple dry to help the detergent, which even my husband can vacuum, I apologize.))

You are not mistaken, I really wrote it. Probably you misunderstood me or I explained poorly in my post. I originally wrote about a robot. I think that it is better to buy a regular dry one for a washing machine for daily cleaning than a robot. Many people use the detergent in the dry cleaning mode.

Worrying about whether you can use a non-native remedy at Thomas, for example, lock or vanish.
Or just your own.
And is it possible to just pour water without detergent.
Will it ruin the vacuum cleaner?

You can just pour water without funds. It's up to you. But the manufacturer does not recommend using a non-original product. If some kind of breakdown happens, it will be a non-warranty case and the vacuum cleaner will not be repaired under warranty. Although once I poured another product. Nothing happened, but I still don't advise you. Not so expensive original remedy.

[for dirty]

Worrying about whether you can use a non-native remedy at Thomas, for example, lock or vanish.
Or just your own.
And is it possible to just pour water without detergent.
Will it ruin the vacuum cleaner?

You can pour special products for cleaning vacuum cleaners from other manufacturers. Their main difference from what you named is the absence of foam during operation, nevertheless, not every vacuum cleaner will survive foaming products. And in general, it is very good to wash everything with clean water after cleaning with a product - and the vacuum cleaner will rinse inside, and it is better to walk on clean, and not on chemistry.

However, I clean soft dirt and stains on light carpets up to the u6orka with a cleaning agent from Saggi (Shtihonit, it seems) or Kir6i, and they are very foaming. But my vacuum cleaner allows it, but Thomas - I don't know. But if you go through (if there are difficult spots), then into the camera for dirty water 6 add a pinch of salt - it extinguishes excess foam.

I decided on the model of the washing vacuum cleaner. Tell me, can you ask a question about detergents for a vacuum cleaner here or is there a special topic for this?
Worrying about whether you can use a non-native remedy at Thomas, for example, lock or vanish.
Or just your own.
And is it possible to just pour water without detergent.
Will it ruin the vacuum cleaner?

I asked the Karcher consultants. They confirmed that any non-foaming cleaning agent can be used. Not necessarily branded. It's like washing-machine powders - they don't foam.
Surely this also applies to Thomas.

Thank you all for your answers !!! Got it. better just water. In our city it is impossible to buy "native" products for Thomas, and it takes a long time to wait for them from online stores.
Or I will buy products for other vacuum cleaners.

[mur_myau]

mur_myau, just yesterday praised the creator of washing vacuum cleaners, because my favorite steam generator is no longer suitable for cleaning carpet. For there is a choice: to wash the carpet on all fours with a sponge or with a washing vacuum cleaner. I have been using a universal cleaner for vacuum cleaners for a long time (in a yellow bottle). Thomas takes it well.
Only in the recommendations to it: cleaning with a dry vacuum cleaner before washing and cleaning dry after the carpet is completely dry.
Water will wash something too, but you will be surprised how much the shampoo will wash.

Rather, you will generally be surprised how much dirt will wash. When Thomas bought and I washed carpets and furniture, to put it mildly, I was shocked.

In our city it is impossible to buy "native" products for Thomas, and it takes a long time to wait for them from online stores.
Or I will buy products for other vacuum cleaners.

I probably already wrote. Why run around looking for him at all? I order from thomas website. Will be sent by mail. If you live not in Moscow but in another city, well, 5-7 days. That's not for long. I always order several pieces and there is nothing wrong with that. 5 days you can wait.

Then HEP ​​filters immediately. You will still need it.

I also recently chose a vacuum cleaner. She refused the detergent immediately, because she had one, but used it mainly as dry. I was looking for a vacuum cleaner that easily copes with dog hair, since I have a shepherd dog. The choice fell on the German Miele S 5311. Very quiet and powerful. She was vacuuming at one in the morning, only a slight rustle was heard, the neighbors did not wake up. Compact, beautiful, 4.5 liter bag. It is possible to connect an electric brush (socket on the body of the vacuum cleaner). I am very pleased with my choice!

Then HEP ​​filters immediately. You will still need it.

When I wrote about filters, I meant HEPA filters.

did not look far in the branch ...

and I bought Thomas and LV for dry cleaning ... let it be ...

as I wrote already above I bought 2 vacuum cleaners before NG. to the ones that already exist with me, but since they don't work a little, and you need to clean it up, I also took Thomas T2 and LV compressor type. Thomas didn’t try right away - I was tuned in to cleaning and long-term washing of filters, buckets, etc., which I read about here .. And here are my impressions:
Thomas is a bit heavy, in my opinion this is his only drawback, but somehow I didn't carry him much, it was enough to wash and vacuum everywhere. I cleaned the carpet, then wet cleaned the sofa, and then washed the tiles in the hallway and kitchen.
I really liked how he collects water, he didn't leave any streaks or puddles at all .. The carpet was vacuumed well, I mean dry cleaning, but when compared with my professional hyla, the second one cleans better with an electric brush. What did you like? -Wash it like 20 minutes, in my opinion, a lie and a provocation - I poured a small bucket into the toilet, then rinsed it again, and then washed something off with a shower in the sink and that's it .. well, 5 minutes, at most I spent 7 ...
I would like to ask those who wash the floors - I need it for the corridor ... I put it on the largest sprayer, but then the vacuum cleaner collects water, I had a doubt that he washed everything? I have such a fad that I would also need to scrape or scrape, and then collect some water .. Who has Thomas for a long time, what can you tell me?

I don't know about the others, but I liked Thomas.
Of course, in addition, I use both Rumbic and a light LV, oddly enough, but I use everything.

Well, you can't tell me that, I didn't see your corridor and the nozzle with which you wash. Walk more carefully, slowly, calmly collect water and clean surfaces. The main thing here is not in a hurry. Then the moisture will collect better, you will not miss anything.

I wash it with a nozzle for washing, I say that, on the contrary, the vacuum cleaner immediately collects water, because it sucks in water very well, and such an impression is to also rub, and the floors, I have tiles

Set the power a little lower and you will wash more thoroughly. Despite the fact that it has sufficient washing capacity.

I, like many on this forum, in search.You need an ordinary vacuum cleaner, compact, lightweight, without dust bags, powerful, there are no more requirements. Budget - I would like up to 6000 rubles.
We have a Rumbik robot. In the Apartment there is mostly laminate flooring, there are few tiles, no carpets, but I plan to buy a small rug for the nursery, but, of course, not with a large nap. There is a lingering cat and a small child, besides, that the apartment is a studio, then from the kitchen and hallway all the dirt spreads at lightning speed throughout the apartment.
I confess, I didn't read the whole thread, I read the last 8 pages, which is fresher, and really found only 2 references to specific models.
I asked my requirements in the market, it turned out about 20 models. My husband and I went to M Video, MediaMarkt, I really don't understand how the model for 3000 (false or Samsung, for example, seemingly decent brands) differs from the model for 10,000. The more expensive ones did not even look.

I, like many on this forum, in search. You need an ordinary vacuum cleaner, compact, lightweight, without dust bags, powerful, there are no more requirements. Budget - I would like up to 6000 rubles.

Why do you think bagless is common? The classic is just the bag. For a price up to 6000, quite good quality. It's not a problem to buy bags now, and it's inexpensive. But generally there are no problems in servicing it. No wonder reputable companies have not abandoned them so far, despite the newfangled flask, washing, etc. For dry cleaning, I would just take the classics in your place ...

Why do you think bagless is common? The classic is just the bag. For a price up to 6000, quite good quality.

I think so too. In cheap bagless ones, filters are more likely to clog and power drops. This is not a law, as luck would have it, but the probability is high.

I really don't understand how the model for 3000 differs (false or samsung for example, seemingly decent brands) from the model for 10,000.

We need to look specifically at what they are talking about, but I think they differ in quality.

Of course. Even in one firm, seemingly almost identical models, can differ in price by 2-3 times. And often, even after disassembling the device, it is impossible to fully understand why such a difference. And not a single store consultant will tell you. After all, the quality of the switches and the quality of the motor and the quality of the bristles on the brush can differ ...

[helgoncha]

No wonder reputable companies have not abandoned them until now, despite the newfangled flask, washing, etc.

The desire to save money on bags among the people is ineradicable, and many manufacturers use this.
helgonchaLook at the bag filipok, it costs about 6. Theirs S-bags are sold in any store.

The desire to save money on bags among the people is ineradicable, and many manufacturers use this.

It's okay on bags, it's worse when they save on quality :(

I personally prefer the aquafilter. He's better IMHO. But there are good vacuum cleaners for dry cleaning with a bag. Thomas has recently released several models.

[Levreta]

I have conscientiously read every single post Levreta... Not a single post on another topic - only Thomas's promotion. Kercher is bad, Dyson is bad, Thomas is good. There is neither about bread, nor about a slow cooker, nor just talking, only Thomas is the light in the window ...

Yes, write a link to it in your signature and everyone will immediately understand.

[Lena]

Lena, we just stopped paying attention to her (his) posts and that's it ... .. after the first 5 posts it immediately became clear that a person was actively discussing only this model ... So let him continue to praise this model of a vacuum cleaner .. Why should we interfere with this?

[Anyuta]

Anyuta, oh, look how. And I thought I discovered America.

Why should we interfere with this?

Yeah, how the Kirbists drive people over the ears - so bad, but Thomas, then, is allowed?

You need an ordinary vacuum cleaner, compact, lightweight, without dust bags, powerful, there are no more requirements. Budget - I would like up to 6000 rubles.

If you are looking exclusively without bags (although it is not clear why - in bag ones you independently set the filtration quality with different quality consumables, from barely with reusable ones to HEPA level in advanced replaceable ones), then look exclusively with several levels of cyclones.

Remember, not the number of intermediate "paralonki" for regular flushing should be large, but exactly cups... Then there is the hope that there will be less regular washings and the vacuum cleaner's traction will last longer - after a while, single-pot cyclones sometimes stop sucking to such an extent that there is not enough for one cleaning of the apartment, the owners are forced to stop, run to wash, then dry, then clean up.

Go to a real store and confuse the sellers with this question, let them show and tell. It is clear that the Dysons meet these requirements, but do not get fooled by excessive advertising, they usually have very weak suction power, a lot of noise, and they cost a lot of money. And according to the descriptions on the Internet, it is absolutely impossible to draw the necessary conclusions - it is impossible to track several rows of cyclones, although by chance you can find several specific models from the reviews.

No, girls, just Thomas, as far as I understand the most affordable on sale and in the price category too. And what can I say, he is not bad. I have a simple LV-beast, but the dust gets clogged at the expense of time for all sorts of foam rubber there .. There is a HYLA vacuum cleaner with a centrifuge system, it costs a lot of money. And I also bought Thomas. I can't really complain about him. Yes, bulky, but washable. Unfortunately, there are no washing-ups, not bulky. And my everyday Rumbik-Zhorik. Honestly, I love all of them. But nothing beats a Hewley turbo electric brush, that's it, and what's wrong if a person likes Thomas. When I bought it, I had a bunch of questions about its work .. a person loves this device and will answer all questions for beginners with pleasure. I don't see anything in this

[Levreta]

I have conscientiously read every single post Levreta... Not a single post on another topic - only Thomas's promotion. Kercher is bad, Dyson is bad, Thomas is good. There is neither about bread, nor about a multicooker, nor just talking, only Thomas is the light in the window ...

Yes, write a link to it in your signature and everyone will immediately understand.

I am flattered that you read all my posts))) I have Thomas, and I'm writing about him. What else should I write about? Here, in my opinion, everyone shares their opinions. You also write about Kirby. Shall we enroll you as Kirby's promoters? Don't write nonsense.