Repair bucket Moulinex OW 5002

The entire repair procedure is described above, including the design of the stirrer assembly.

Yes, I realized that this bucket, which the author repaired, fits my model, I just wanted to know if it is now possible to find an oil seal of this size, where to get it, I thought from this company, but there are no such sizes.
And I did not understand how the shaft is still fixed in the socket, not all the pictures are visible, they are removed on the radical

Ok fixed

Clearly), the oil seal is generally not so easy to find

Hello to all those suffering from repairs ... I have a stove 573807. In the photo it seems like the buckets are the same. I was also painfully looking for a way out. Well, I don't want to throw out almost the whole unit. I got the stove from the children. They bought another, and I took this one. I will say that there were no complaints about it before the breakdown. Is that the noise level is high, but the price is also the cheapest. But to the point.
I re-read the forum and I realized I had to act There is a turner at work, but of the highest class, because he sharpens the most critical details. Since I did not hope to buy an oil seal, I decided to sharpen it. Disassembled by drilling rivets. And he thought hard about what to sharpen. But someone wrote that it is possible from the secondary layer. But I was embarrassed because of the ecology, because there is heating, and therefore evaporation. But looking at the parts again, I saw there the same gasket standing on top, that is, in contact with bread, and decided. I read the operating temperature on the Internet, read the temperature of the bread in the oven and gave the go-ahead to the turner. Vtoroplast is not a problem for any turner. Moreover, they wrote here that the lubricant is not needed, since the secondary plastic is slippery.
In short, that's all. Collected in reverse order. I asked him for another one in reserve, but he forgot, I wanted to take a picture, but he himself zapresovat it in place. I also smashed a seat on the shaft under the lever itself, which turns the shaft, I wanted to drip by welding, but the welder ended up on sick leave. Nothing has been spinning for two months already.
Moreover. Collected already on bolts. At first I dribbled then stopped quickly. Don't forget to pay attention to the assembly. There are lugs on the glass that is screwed on, they must be combined with the main drive, at first I did not notice and the bucket did not sit down to the end, but everything worked anyway. Then I had to twist it.
Happy renovation. I post a photo.

Photo and could not figure out how to place. Danced danced - I try again. Probably loading.

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Yeah, it seems like it's not the first day on the Internet ...

Well, sort of gone.

Yeah, right now, we'll understand ...



The sleeve also had to be knocked out and turned from copper graphite. Bushings for starters for cars are sharpened from it.

And here the gland is already sitting in place.

We put the washer on top, on the shaft, of course, and fasten it to the bucket!

Everything is fine.

But in the second photo, you just see those pins, they must be combined with the grooves on the drive, which is located in the oven, and then just screw it to the vat, as my son-in-law calls him ...

But in general, as I understand it, there is nothing to be afraid of. When I saw the initial state, I did not understand how it worked. There were very large gaps.

Great! Keep it up, I also tried to make my own bucket, these screenshots would be earlier), I have another one with 2 shoulder blades, it would be interesting to watch the video) of the entire operation) for the future, but I had to take a new bucket, because I didn't figure it out.
If you look at 1 picture, how did you unscrew this part? There, after all, are the rivets hard at the bottom under the bucket, or do you have some kind of screws? I need to look at your model on the Internet, it's just interesting to find out now!) It's so easy for me to remove the rivets to pull out the shaft, and the shaft that flew off from me just fell down, I still did not understand what it was holding, in the middle of the nest for shaft (a nest in a bucket which) you can see something similar to a spring, but why is it interesting on the shaft itself in the middle there is a slot along the entire circumference and what should be there when you put it back

Greetings to all. Quite right, there are hard rivets there. I would have filmed everything, but the idea to publish it came later. I installed it on a drilling machine under the drill from the side of the bucket itself and drilled it, you can also drill it with a drill. The fact that the rivets look powerful is nonsense, they are aluminum. The main thing is to get to the center, screw it, you need to take a little more drill well, mm. at 6 - 7, I don't remember, just remove the chamfer, and it itself will fall apart for hours. But at first I started picking the oil seal insolently, and did not achieve anything, I just picked it open, fortunately, a smart specialist suggested that it was necessary to drill to cut it in half.
My shaft also flew out. There were gaps, but as I said, everything worked for my daughter ... Somehow. Until it crumbled. That is, the shaft did not fly out. Yes, that's right, there is a slot on the shaft. I was also embarrassed by her, did not know what she was needed for. And when he disassembled everything, and this was happening at the workplace, the same specialist from experience said that there is a retaining ring on the shaft in the slot. But. Where did it go? They thought that they had eaten it with bread ...
The stopper was picked up in half with grief, but the store has everything, I just wanted to assemble it faster. He is in the first photo - which is a crescent. Yes, the bushing also had to be machined, copper-graphite, since it was worn off. She can be seen in the first and third photos.
Unfortunately, the turner assembled everything without me, I did not see either the copper sleeve or the second-layer oil seal separately, everything was already assembled. And the shaft was already stuck. In the first picture, everything is laid out in order. And the gland too, it is the third in a row. Here, according to its dimensions, a new oil seal was turned. By the way, the spring you are writing about is nothing more than a part of the oil seal. I also picked it out at first through a bucket. This is the stuffing box. Like a car.
Well, it remains to screw everything into place. Bolts in my M 4. Yes, there is also a gasket such as polyethylene or oilcloth between them.
It remains to wish a successful renovation.
PS. But I'll tell you, when the children bought a new stove - this is certainly a thing! Quiet quiet. And the vat is already solid. Thick iron. And all at once on bolts. Disassemble and change if that. The price is somewhere around 5 thousand Panasonic. I don’t know whether it’s an advertisement or not.

Then I read someone who suggests replacing the oil seal without drilling. So that's it. The figure shows how a shiny iron washer stands on this model, and when I tried to pull the oil seal from above, I just tore it ... The washer partially performs the function of protecting the oil seal from slipping into the bucket. Since the bucket is made of very thin iron. These are my assumptions.

[aleks68]

aleks68 Panasonic's form is an aluminum alloy such as duralumin. Moulinex has just aluminum. The gland from Panasonic is patented as a shaft, a blade and the whole HP gland service life is from 5 years or more

Hello everybody. I wondered who was putting baked bread on what? Maybe this topic has already been? It would be nice to see a photo of the coasters. There are a lot of topics, can anyone see please give a link.

Peace be with you bakers!
aleks68--

I use such a stand
there really is a multi pie, but bread also cools on it

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=51187.0

Yeah, okay. It's not clear where to get it?
But I invented it myself. Rather blinded from what was. And it was - a stand for circlesek.

Peace be with you bakers!
aleks68--
there is a stove, but there is a grate
well, baked it and into the oven on the wire rack - let it freeze

Good way. But will it remain crispy?

Good way. But will it remain crispy?

Thank you very much!
That was the most valuable piece of advice in the bucket repair post!
When we started this post with members of the forum (low bow to them), we wanted to convey something else.

So, after all, I asked a couple of posts above and I will ask if anyone has not read it: Who saw this topic please give a link. Yes, and it is clear that the newbie has not yet figured out what's what, they met on good terms ... Yes, and like I posted some information on the topic. And when you start a new topic, they will tell you why you started, has this already been?
What will you advise now?

Good day!
I tried to solve the problem with the bread maker myself, but to no avail.
Perhaps you can help me ...
Bread maker moulinex model 573934, ref: ow500032 / b70
When plugged into the outlet, the blades begin to spin immediately, when the start / stop button is pressed, it beeps, but does not stop.
I can switch programs to start the 14th - only baking, but the engine still runs all the time.
Dismantled, everything is clean inside, all e-mail. the boards are clean, no trace.

What can be wrong?

What can be wrong?

Andrey, first, inspect the electrolytes, the strapping of the power elements of the engine circuit, if the equipment is not new.

The stove was used a couple of times, then it stood for six months ... the result of the first bad experience.
The capacitors look great, everything is clean. Maybe the problem is in the relay that turns off the engine? Is it stuck?

Try ringing the normally open contacts first (by turning off the power).
Then check the voltage on the coil (already energized)

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And what if instead of an oil seal, you press this bearing 🔗

Hello everybody.
I have a problem, the Kenwood VM-450 stove is 2 years old, a red rubber gasket broke and fell out on the bucket, now that rod-pin on which the kneading knife is attached can be easily removed, apparently now the tightness will be broken. I have a spare round bucket, but I would like to bake in a rectangular one.

As I understand it, I need a new rubber band, that is, an oil seal, and then this lubricant. But this is all in Russia, I'm from Ukraine, it will probably be problematic ((I already wanted to buy a new bucket, I can't find it anywhere, only here,

[81ruslan81]

81ruslan81, Spare parts to Kenwood https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3585.180 another bucket repair option https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=32099.0

Good day!! I'll come to you with my problem, can I? I have HP "Moulinex baguette and co" Model: SERIE B05, REF: OW600230 / B7A-2111R with two mixers (I am writing in detail, because I don’t know how important it is). Repairs of HP 5002 are described here (this is part of the number from REF? For convenience, yes? But for me, by analogy with 6002?). In mine, the shaft of one of the mixers just fell out and nothing else. He easily enters back, but no longer holds. From what I read, I realized that the stopper had broken, crumbled. Plus, the oil seal stopped doing its job. Right? The question is the following - do the operations for replacing the oil seal and installing the stopper on the shaft and shaft in the bucket coincide with model 5002? Are the gland sizes identical?

[vanex]

vanexYou have a "new" type of oil seal with a Teflon ring, in detail what is included in the assembly and what breaks down on the previous page, with photos, I don't remember the size, where I slipped, model HP OW600230.

Got it !! And without disassembly, you can determine whether the bushing is worn out or not? I understand that it was possible to change the oil seal without complete disassembly ...

And without disassembly, you can determine whether the bushing is worn out or not? I understand that it was possible to change the oil seal without complete disassembly ...

The bushing can be checked if you insert the shaft into it and shake it from side to side, the shaft will dangle in the broken bushing.
The oil seal changes without disassembling the bucket, it is simply pressed in from above, why disassemble the bucket?

A defect was found.
One of the shoulder blades in Moulinex rubs against the bottom of the bucket. It touches near the sealing sleeve.
Already rubbed Teflon to metal. It is harmful. What to do?
Maybe someone has an extra bucket?

What to do?

For Pavel or Polina, I would dare to give different advice.

Announce pzhlst all spsk.

It's hard to give blind advice. If the bore hole in the mixer is broken, then you need to raise it.
You can do this with a washer on the shaft (work a bit with a file), but there is a danger of eating it if it comes off.
You can insert into the hole, the stirrer will rise, but the danger is the same. I would drill a hole in the mixer 2-2.5 mm perpendicular. axle and pressed the pin with an interference fit. Then the axle rests against the pin and the agitator rises. I hope everything is clear from now on.
Yours faithfully,

Thank you. I would like to understand why this happened. And why only on one mixer. Probably I'll try to raise the stirrer.

I would like to understand from what it happened

Try to pull the shaft up with your hands.
If we are talking about Mulk, it is located between two stops (washers). Is the top one broken?

Split washer? Upper.? Where is she?

Under the oil seal. See page 1

Finally, a sketch of the node.

here is schematic, but you can see what is where