V-tina
Quote: Taia
What model is it?
Is it a free-standing stove or an inset panel + oven?
this is an installation
Taia
Tina, this topic is about plates and we are talking about plates.
And I wrote specifically about the plates.
V-tina
Taia, yes, yes, I already understood what the essence of the claims is)) the topic about the building has somehow calmed down
ledi
Elena, Lena, well, I don't want to deceive anyone. We got it yesterday, new, glossy, beautiful and shines like polished furniture in the USSR. While they were printing, naturally, the dust from the packaging sat on the lid, and then they dragged it from the corridor to the kitchen, back and forth, set the prints. Maybe while the coating is new, so it is very visible. How it glitters in the car, but after a while the train no longer glitters. I washed it, clean, but did not shine, but opened it with some means (sorry, I don’t know how) and shone aaa!
vatruska
ledi, I do not know how with the laws in Ukraine - we have gas household equipment of proper quality, but that does not fit in size, color, etc., etc. cannot be exchanged. When did you order the stove and receive it - did the color appear on the invoice and the invoice?
bukabuza
Vera, much more depends on the material, my parents have the same Kandy as mine, but only cream, it's scary to touch her, you can see everything and she was bought from them only 3 years ago. And most importantly, they were specifically looking for this, since it was tested for years. It seems to me that you can't guess now, how I can imagine that I will have to change everything, it becomes so bad.
ledi
Quote: vatruska
color on invoice and delivery note
I ordered the model "6100-02" in the photo it is white. And they sent me "6100-02 K". The letter stands for color. And even a brown label glued on. The difference in price is UAH 126. Brown is cheaper. The sales receipt indicates the model 6100-02, that is, white. Both models are offered for sale, with different prices and colors. It never crossed my mind to specify the color
vatruska
If the models have a difference in price in color and the sales receipt and the invoice confirm that you paid for the white one, then you probably should exchange it without any problems ... otherwise, this is already a fraud.
By the way, maybe I was so lucky, but almost all the large equipment that I purchased was served by extremely responsible forwarders. At first they unpacked everything, checked the package with us and only after that they gave documents for signature and took money ...
ledi
Svetlana, Sent back today, now we are waiting for what will happen, they promised to send it as soon as they receive it
vatruska
People! I understand that it is a little off topic - but can anyone know ... Is the flexible hose for the gas stove standard in length or do you need to measure it?
We have here my roof that has moved down ... It seems to me that there is a smell of gas in the kitchen - everything went with a burning torch (joints, burners) - nowhere are there any hints, but there is a smell (well, I just clinked glasses ...) To calm myself down decided to change the flexible eyeliner ...

Calling gas workers does not solve anything, by the way ... A friend from another entrance called the emergency gang - she was told "open the windows and ventilate the room" and that's it ...
V-tina
I bought recently - the choice of length was (so it is probably better to measure) and in two versions - in a metal braid and in a rubber one.
win-tat
There is a black rubber hose - it is shorter, and there is a yellow, longer one. I also used to have it in a metal braid with yellow marks, but now, when I changed it, the gas workers said to buy a black one .. But walking with an open fire, checking for a leak, is in vain, it could burst if it (leak) was. Check by lathering the joints with foam, and if there is a leak, the bubble is inflated.
Alex100
vatruska, call the emergency services (usually 04) to check for gas leaks, they should have an instrument to detect
The most interesting thing is that if you call gas workers from the gas station to install the stove, they come and check the connections with a sponge soaked in soapy water

o there are unique people who check leaks with a lighter) well, this is a separate topic
vatruska
Quote: win-tat
lathering the joints with foam, and if there is a leak, then the bubble inflates.
They did this too - there is nothing ... but only where you can get close, you can't just climb behind the stove - you have to move the heavy bedside tables, but there are no men in the house.

Alex100, I said - the neighbor called the emergency gang, they also gave their answer ...
Lika_n
they also check for windows there is a tool .. which you shake up and it is sprayed with foam.
win-tat
Quote: vatruska

A friend from another entrance called the emergency gang - she was told "open the windows and ventilate the room" and that's it ...
Wow .. And if you call the hotline and complain .. I think now in every district there should be such a rapid response telephone, in any case we do. I once called when they could not turn on the heating for 2 weeks, and also, when a lukewarm water of 30 degrees was flowing from the tap with hot water, at a standard of ~ 54 in my opinion. So they called me back later, whether everything was fixed and whether I still had complaints.
Alex100
It's also strange for me that the gas emergency service rejects so much ...

vatruska
win-tat, so tomorrow I'll buy, just in case, an eyeliner and on Monday I'll call - I'll see what happens ... Actually, I'm not even sure that we have a leak (if there is any) - there is a smell, that is, there is no, then stronger then weaker, we have such cracks in the floor ... the 5th floor, the ventilation does not work at all, but smells are drawn from the lower floors - mommy don’t cry ...
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

For eyeliner, a different standard has long been -bellows metal hose - the toughest, most reliable, but also the most expensive hose used for gas supply. It is this type of hose that is recommended by domestic regulatory documents as the most resistant to gas pressure.

And it is very easy to check the hose and joints for gas leaks.
It is enough to beat the dishwashing detergent to foam and apply this foam to the problem area with a sponge - if there is a leak, a bubble will inflate
Taia
In our house, a general check of gas appliances was carried out.
In the bottle he had a liquid that the inspector sprayed on the places where there was a risk of leaks.
Liquid is liquid, it is immediately through the glass pipe. But the inspector considered himself so qualified that he concluded from the flowing water that there were no leaks.
In short, everything was done for "show". My brain boiled with anger at them.
vatruska
People, I smeared the joints with soapy foam - there is nothing, but there is a smell ..
Alex100
Quote: shade

Peace be with you bakers!

For eyeliner, a different standard has long been -bellows metal hose - the toughest, most reliable, but also the most expensive hose used for gas supply. It is this type of hose that is recommended by domestic regulatory documents as the most resistant to gas pressure.

And it is very easy to check the hose and joints for gas leaks.
It is enough to beat the dishwashing detergent to foam and apply this foam to the problem area with a sponge - if there is a leak, a bubble will inflate

Yes, he is not so expensive, he only took 320 r 1.5 m today
And the foam is still better to use from laundry soap, as gas workers say (it seems like the foam from the detergent is denser and less leakage
harder to notice)
In general, a gas indicator is needed for these purposes
Emergency services have them available, but perhaps not everyone knows how to use them correctly
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Alex100--

More expensive than the rest--

And believe the old signalman \ washed more than one kilometer of cable \ in the first place is foam for blowing bubbles, behind it for washing dishes, and only then soap.
Gas analyzer \ I still have at home \ shows the percentage of content
Before going down into the well, we lowered the gas analyzer hose, but mainly checked for methane and lead \ earlier the cable was mainly in a lead sheath \ so that there was no bust
Alex100
shade, I believe)
pljshik
Girls, please share who knows and has a stove with the Smart Cook mode - what kind of animal it is, I choose a stove, I would like a gas stove with convection mode!
V-tina
Quote: pljshik
Smart Cook
if I'm not mistaken, then this is an opportunity to cook different dishes at the same time .. there are not many gas ones with convection, but you can find
Tigress
Hello. I choose a stove. The more I read, the more I get confused. In the list of the best Gorenje, Bosch, Mora. How not to miscalculate?
1.cast iron grate. 2. ignition. 3 white enamel. 4. timer. 5 convection. 6. catallic i cleaning. 7. Super oven is the most important thing, I guess. I want the stove now. and in the future I would like to built-in. Can I buy an oven now. and then buy up? Or not bother and buy a stove?
PapAnin
Tigress, there are independent ovens, nothing prevents you from first buying an oven, connecting and using it, and then, when you are ripe, buy a hob. What do you have now? If you only buy an oven now, is there where to build it?
V-tina
Tigress, can I help you? I am dropping the link, there is a selection of ovens according to your requirements, maybe look at something
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win-tat
Quote: Tigress

Hello. I choose a stove.
1.cast iron grate. 2. ignition. 3 white enamel. 4. timer. 5 convection. 6. catallic i cleaning. 7. Super oven is the most important thing, I guess.
My gas AEG has all this except for catalytic cleaning and enamel, I have a stainless steel. I also wanted enamel, but at the time of purchase there was only stainless steel, and I never regretted it. It is easy to clean, not like enamel. You can simply wipe it with a stainless steel cleaning wipe, using Electrolux. I am very pleased with the stove itself, the oven is super, it bakes very evenly, there is convection and an electric grill.
Tigress
Thanks for answers. You can't just install the built-in one right? Should it be built on purpose?
Tigress
The oven is just a torment for me. brest. Nothing normal can be cooked. The top is white, the bottom is burnt. I dream of an oven, so that it was just a peep. To stick the dough. but it turned out beautiful lush pies !!
Tigress
By the way, Technosila has plates that Krosh has. I would like to know if she is really that good? As I understood, the bottom does not advance itself? (K65345BW burning)
V-tina
Quote: Tigress
You can't just install the built-in one right? Should it be built on purpose?
temporarily it can just stand, of course, but in general it needs to be built under the countertop
V-tina
Quote: Tigress
does the bottom not slide out by itself?
in the sense - bottom? it is a freestanding stove. in the oven on 2 levels out of 4 there are partially retractable telescopic guides

(infa from here 🔗)

Alex100
Tigress, there is nothing better than an electric oven
win-tat
Yes, she only eats a lot of electricity ... it's not for nothing that many switched to the Princess
Tigress
This is understandable, but which one? A separate oven or a combination oven? And what brand? Now they praise Bosch, then the burning. then maro. For whom the buttons are erased, for whom
the glass heats up. Head spin. Are built-in ones better, but just more expensive? or the same ?. And the question with the bottom, it meant the bottom of the oven, in the same place
there is a shelf for pans. someone is self-propelled, and someone just opens. And here's another question, in which brands the trays are put forward.
when do you open the door?
V-tina
Quote: Tigress
there is a shelf for pans. someone is self-extending, and someone just opens
Built-in cabinets do not have such storage shelves
V-tina
Quote: Tigress
Head spin
Elena, decide on your requirements and choose what you like.Each sandpiper praises its swamp with a gas Zanussi without bells and whistles, only convection, and I'm also happy
Alex100
Tigress, I have a built-in Bosch oven

Has a gas stove (was indesite), recently acquired by Mora

Electricity out of competition

They write that it takes a lot of electricity, but nonsense ... the computer used to take more from me)
win-tat
Quote: Alex100

They write that it takes a lot of electricity, but nonsense ... the computer used to take more from me)
I will not argue, but what kind of monster did you have .. An average computer takes ~ 0.5 kW / h, and an electric / cabinet ~ 2.5 kW / h.
Alex100
Tatyana, yes there was a monster 0.7 somewhere, and even worked by itself, then downloaded from the Internet, in short lived his own life) last year he got rid of and bought an equally powerful laptop
We do not save electricity, of course, and thanks to the forum, there are more of these devices than in the courtyard of cars
I press 150 kW on average, well, in winter I think we'll leave for 200
again, not critical
Tigress
Alex, how does Mora work for you, specifically what Mora (No.) is. Do you have a combined Mora?
Alex100
Tigress, I have this Mora PS 213 MW3 purely gas
works flawlessly
but an electric Bosch built-in is used as an oven
Lёlik
I have Bosch (Turkey) gas but with an electric grill. I do not advise anyone. The oven bakes one-sidedly, even a stone does not help much.
Friends were doing repairs in the kitchen, they wanted to put a panel in the countertop and a separate oven built-in. This required some kind of permits and gas projects. They abandoned the idea and installed an electric oven.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Alex100 - - works flawlessly

And you mean that you can boil the kettle and fry the eggs on the other burner
Crochet
Quote: V-tina
it is a freestanding stove. in the oven on 2 levels out of 4 there are partially retractable telescopic guides

Everything is just like that ...

I love my assistant very much, that's just sooo !!!
Tigress
Alex, how many slabs do you have and why? Does the built-in BoSh work well? Tell us about her. Pliz z z
Alex100
Elena, I have one gas stove Mora
and 2 ovens, one with a stove, the other Bosch installation
Bosch German, bought 3 years ago
Works great, large temperature range 50-270, mainly used for baking
Although the ferrari bakes pizza better
As I have not experimented, and with a stone, etc., etc. ... after all, the temperature plays a decisive role 390 grams, no oven will give out
Over time, I plan to use it for sausages, I need to order the casing

A gas oven is sometimes used for stewing and other

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