Dishwasher malfunctions

[perevetich]

perevetichIt looks like an electronics unit, it is difficult to make a service yourself. The block repair algorithm indicated for its ESF 4151, look.

It's time for me to ask a question. PMM hotpoint ariston LSF723. Periodically, drawing water for the first rinse, after standing and thinking. just drains it. The last rinse is normal. Yesterday I tried on a different program, for dirty dishes, 2 intermediate rinses just drained the water, the latter is normal. And then all the stages go fine.

[Giraffe]

Giraffe, Tatyana, how old is the typewriter? It produces a sink but rinses once, correctly understood? Are the dishes hot when washing? Check the filters, just in case the PMM rocker arms rotate easily, make cleaning a good product. If it doesn't help, call the master, it looks like the pressure switch is dead or its tubes are clogged, maybe a temperature sensor, cannot determine the temperature, that's it. Control unit as an option.

PMM has definitely been there for three years, or rather I can say later, documents are in the couch, and I myself cannot get into it. I'll wait for my husband. The dishes are hot after washing and drying. The first water, after washing, is drained hot and the last one too. And it shouldn't be hot in between rinses. The rocker arms rotate, at first glance, as usual.
Do we have any discussions about cleaning, which is better? although it is necessary to see what we generally have on this subject for sale.
But she does not always do this, the cycles also go through normally.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, and misfortune befell me, or rather my dishwasher. I couldn't open the door, pulled it harder, something clicked there, it opened and now it doesn't close at all. How serious is it? Is it just a service? Or a handy neighbor can handle it?

And I was not going to repair / change the PM .. There was no time to go shopping and see what was in stock. Or maybe call another master? I called a service center here, and they told me that the car needs to be pulled out of the furniture - their masters don't do this ... That's bad luck, but the master who first came and looked - put it back ... and screwed all the screws .. ...

[Taia]

Taia, The lock or hook is broken, depends on the design, if you buy a new one in the service or via the Internet, a neighbor can also change for a "little bit", but first you need to diagnose what is broken.

And it shouldn't be hot in between rinses

Call the master, IMHO temperature sensor.

[P]

Alexander. The hook is a latch in the form P? It is intact and in place. Probably the castle itself.
I have an old Zanussi, you probably won't find any spare parts?

[Babushka]

Babushka, Contact another service, take it out of the furniture, although it is costly, agree with the master about removing it from the furniture on the spot. Healthy hands are more expensive.

[Taia]

Taia, The castle is most likely like this 🔗
specify the number of PMM look

[Alexander]

Alexander, ZANUSSI ZDS 304

I will ask knowledgeable people in this thread:
I was offered to buy a used dishwasher for 90 bucks.
There are two models to choose from:
bosch skt 5102sk (German assembly) and Electrolux ESF 2435 (Swede).
In appearance, in Boch, corrosion is visible in the corners, in Elektrolux the door is stuck. Although I liked the Electrolux more spaciously. What should you pay attention to and how else can you check these cars?
Should I take them at all? After all, the models are pretty old and how much they were in operation is not known (the owner of the store carries used equipment from Germany).Before that, they took the Khuzvarna freezer from him, they are very happy with it, but he plugged the freezer into the outlet and it is clear whether it works or not, but how else can you determine the dishwasher?
It seems that the money is not big, but at the present time, even with such an amount, I would not just want to waste it.
I must say right away that I cannot take a larger size due to lack of space, from these I will put either on a washing machine or maybe under a sink.

In appearance, in Boch, corrosion is visible inside the corners

Isn't it stainless inside?

In Boch, there is a stainless steel inside, in Electrolux there is plastic.

[Taia]

TaiaThe lock is the one I indicated above, but it's better to disassemble the door and see. Dishwasher door lock Electrolux, AEG, Zanussi Part No. 50286082008, 1526377161, 1526377070, 1526377039, 1526377021
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[sazalexter]

sazalexter, dismantled the door, found out that the antennae that hold the latch broke in the lock. (By the way, that's why in such a place to make such a frail design). So the craftsman managed to bypass the structure a little, to strengthen his know-how instead of the antennae - and that's it, the door closes. I'm happy.
Yesterday I spent the whole evening in the internet in search of topics about repairing on my own. And this theme inspired: 🔗
Thank you very much for your participation and all possible help!

[Taia]

Taia,
Congratulations! You have a good neighbor))
Olima,
I would only take these for free, play. If you're out of luck, spend more on details. There would be cars at least without visible defects. You can also flood your neighbors, you never know why they were sold. Sorry to be so harsh, but you can't joke with PMM.

Katya, why excuse that? After all, I was expecting real advice in my case. By the way, about the fact that you can flood your neighbors, I missed this moment, for which thank you.
Here's what a master of dishwashers, washing machines and other household appliances wrote to me on another forum:

Whether it's worth it or not, it's up to you. It is impossible to predict in advance what state the dishwasher might be in. Bosch, I would not take it already by definition, since Bosch has a weak point - electronics. And when it gets covered, it is generally unrealistic to predict. For the rest, you need to look at the state of the main components, namely the central pump and ion exchanger. Start a cycle and listen for the pump noise. If there is already dry noise from the bearings, then the pump is close to death. Once the water has finished filling, open the door and draw some water from the bottom of the cabinet. Do a hardness analysis. The hardness of the water in the cabinet must be in the range of 2 to 5 degrees of German hardness (2-5 ° dH). If the hardness is higher, then the ion exchanger is already dead and does not provide the necessary water filtration. An ion exchanger is half the cost of a new dishwasher.
Well, I would take the suite just after making sure it was okay.

I copied his words here, and what if someone also has such a question, and he put everything on the shelves.
I decided not to take such cars. Maybe life will improve and buy myself a new one.

I decided not to take such cars.

And rightly so !!!

At our city forum, one smart guy was selling almost a new one. quite a bit used PMM. According to him, it was stored for 6 years in the garage. And what happens to water when it freezes, in the same ion exchanger, I think everyone understands. But someone bought the deceased!

[Olima]

Olima,
And you can ask for a link to this master. I have a Bosch and it just looks like I started having problems with the electronics (((

And you can ask for a link to this master. I have Bosch and it just looks like I started having problems with electronics

This forum 🔗, there is master Alexzz from Latvia.

I decided not to take such cars. Maybe life will improve and buy myself a new one.

It is difficult to advise on such topics. In a dishwasher there are so many technically complex, difficult-to-check parameters, all sorts of exchangers and so on. Even if you check the filling and draining in the car, the remaining flaws may not immediately come out. The machine seems to work, but the dishes are poorly washed.
I immediately had such a reaction to your message.
There are budget models of dishwashers on sale, there are promotions, save up for a new one. For example, you can now buy from us for a Bosch or Indesit stock for $ 300

The Bosch SPV 53M00 full-built dishwasher has worked for two and a half years and yesterday it gave an error E15. Internet says the water in the pan must be tilted and the water poured out. The question is how the water got in and what to do about it.

[Shushlaew]

Shushlaew, Pour out the water, open the machine, and look for the place of leakage, after checking if there is a blockage in the drain pipe and the system as a whole. Pour about two glasses of water into the PMM cabinet, the drain hose into a basin or sink, turn on the PMM, when turned on, the drain pump immediately works. I have eaten through the gasket of the thermal sensor, which is difficult for you to say.

We are waiting for the master on Wednesday.

Hello everyone! I also purchased PMM two weeks ago and faced such a problem: after washing, almost all of the powder remains in the compartment. It seems that the machine washes without it at all
Maybe it was already discussed somewhere, poke my nose into that Temko

[nnv200569]

nnv200569, Was the powder compartment open or not? If not, the problem is very serious, contact the service.

The compartment was open, and there was powder in it!

[nnv200569]

nnv200569, and on which program do you wash, on the short one?

I did not understand the same thing - after the end, was the compartment door open? That is, you opened it during the washing process?

Program for 2 h 20 min. When I opened the PMM door, then I saw that the compartment was open and there was powder in it ...

Was the compartment dry before filling in the powder? It adheres to the wet powder so that it does not wash out almost, I had a couple of times, now if I wipe the wet compartment dry and everything is fine.

Seems dry ... though
Thanks for the tip, keep an eye on this!

I still had this when I poured too much powder. Now I pour no more than 2/3 to the maximum, and everything is fine.

I fall asleep 1/2 teaspoon.

[nnv200569]

nnv200569The algorithm is at the beginning of the wash, the container door opens, the powder is poured into the PMM cabinet, then the wash takes place, during which the remaining powder is washed off with powerful jets of water. The container opens, now check the rocker arms if they are spinning for clogging, clean the PMM filter.

The algorithm is as follows at the beginning of the wash, the container door opens, the powder is poured into the PMM cabinet

Probably this is so, but in most programs (not counting one short one), the PMM first does a preliminary rinse without powder. Then, after 15-20 minutes, the compartment lid clicks.
Over the years of using the PMM, I have already developed an automatic habit - before pouring the powder into the compartment, I must check with a paper napkin if there is any moisture there. If you keep the compartment open (and I never close it empty), then while you put the dishes in the PMM, most likely something will drop there. It takes longer to wash the dishes than checking the compartment, which is why it's such a habit.

+500

Schaub I lived like this .. five minutes - a thousand rubles. Let me remind you that the problem was in the constantly suction pump. First on long programs, then on short ones. The master came and pressed the Reset button for a long time, that is, he overloaded it and that's it. He promised that he would work.

[Omela]

Omela, well, this is not the price for pressing the button. And for knowledge ...
I could have poked around the car for a long time and done nothing.

[Omela]

Omela, With a successful renovation. It's good that such a repair. Reset button hidden?

[Taia]

Taia, I'm kidding.

sazalexter, Thank you! No, right on the panel is pause \ Reset. For the gifted, it is expressly signed.

But all the same, you can open the car while washing or no?

Thanks everyone for the advice! The compartment was wet, so the powder remained ... Now I wipe it off with a dry cloth.
MaFynkoy very good happy

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, I will not say about all models, Electrolux that I have been plowing for 10 years is possible

Problem: The lower level of the dishwasher does not wash (water does not flow - the spray gun does not spin) while the upper level is working properly. Maybe someone knows?

[elen1]

elen1Something serious, seems to be clogged inside, call the master.

Good day! Can you tell me how to fix my assistant?
Dishwasher built-in Bosch SPV58M00RU. Was purchased in November 2012. There was a long renovation, the machine was in the package. The first time it was turned on just before the New Year 2014. That is, it has been in operation for just over a year.I run it most often at 70 degrees once a day.
About a month ago, the sound when draining has changed. The machine began to growl hysterically (when turned on - draining, during the washing process - also when draining). In all other respects there are no problems, it washes well.
What exactly can it be? Pump? Pump motor? Bearings in it? Where can I get the Explosion Scheme? Can you disassemble the machine yourself? In what order? Pull out of the furniture first? Is it realistic to fix the problem yourself? Can you continue to operate? Or am I killing her with this? Maybe you need to urgently contact the service center?