Asya Klyachina
It seems to me that if there is a garden and you have to process the harvest massively for juices, then Phillips is better. And if it is not foreseen, then take what you like best outwardly. For example, if I don’t like something outwardly of two roughly equivalent devices, I still don’t take it, even if the reviews are positive.
Verina Natalia
Asya Klyachina I totally agree. You need to love your technique, otherwise it will gather dust on the mezzanine.
Rita
Quote: Asya Klyachina

It seems to me that if there is a garden and you have to process the harvest massively for juices, then Phillips is better. And if it is not foreseen, then take what you like best outwardly. For example, if I have something I don’t like outwardly of two devices of approximately equal value, I still will not take it, even if the reviews are positive.
Sestra.
AILIN
Quote: Asya Klyachina

It seems to me that if there is a garden and you have to process the harvest massively for juices, then Phillips is better. And if it is not foreseen, then take what you like best outwardly. For example, if I don’t like something outwardly of two roughly equivalent devices, I still don’t take it, even if the reviews are positive.
There is no garden, but who knows how it can turn in life ... You need 2-3 glasses of juice. Initially it was tuned to PHILIPS, but after reading Temko I decided to take a closer look at Panasonic, but it didn't work out, since we don't have stock in our stores, but in the video you understand, it's not that ... So I choose between smart and beautiful :) I want to buy, because deviceaholism does not let go of its tenacious embrace. Already acquired a bunch of new assistants. I choose very carefully, so I love everyone and use everyone.And now, it seems that the current of the juicer and the steam vacuum cleaner is not enough for complete happiness ...
Sergey Kornilov
Take a look at auger juicers.
Only they make natural, tasty and healthy juice.
AILIN
I looked closely, but here is the owner's review:
Quote: Rita

GalinkaMalinka,
I have a complete analogue of Khurom ... Yes, the cake is absolutely dry ... Yes, it works quietly ... But instead of juice - porridge! Smoothie, or whatever it is. In general, juice-puree. I don't like that!
Sorry to the impossibility of such a purchase. I spent almost 300 euros, among other things.
So, take your time to give up on centrifuge juicers.
Rita
AILIN, since you quoted me, I will comment on my review. This review was made immediately after the purchase of a juicer versus a centrifuge. Now I have already changed my views a little. I use an auger to squeeze juice from berries and tomatoes. She copes with this perfectly. And I won't trade it for anything. And for juices without pulp, I will definitely buy Philips.
AILIN
Quote: Rita

AILIN, And for juices without pulp, I will definitely buy Philips.
So it is for me for the same!
Verina Natalia
Quote: AILIN

So it is for me for the same!

Keep in mind that bananas still make thick juice. And tomatoes - yes, pink water.
zhariks
Tell me, are there generally juicers that can squeeze currants into a TRANSPARENT juice? For berries, auger extractors are traditionally advised. But here I look in the topic about Brand, there currant juice is cloudy with pulp. No ice
Sergey Kornilov
Juice without pulp is not healthy.
The pulp is fiber and pectin. This is the healthiest thing in berries, vegetables and fruits.
...
But if you really really want to get rid of the pulp, then you can pass the resulting juice through the auger juicer again. Then the pulp will separate, but the juice will be much less. But the juice will still not be transparent.

And, by the way, after studying the topic about the Brand, I was once again convinced that I made the right choice by buying a similar juicer from another manufacturer. I do not have all the problems that the owners of the Brand write about.Tomatoes are choking without a break, last week I squeezed 10 liters of juice at a time. I made grape jam from 5 liters of juice - I also did not disassemble it for cleaning. Bananas or berries. Only the consistency depends on the product: from juice to puree.
julifera
Two times cheaper than Kovey - we are happy

Zelmer JP1500

Sergey Kornilov
Quote: julifera

Two times cheaper than Kovey - we are happy

How much is this?
I Coway in Eldorado for a stock for 5399 took.
Satisfied - like an elephant.
julifera
With Rita Covey, she wrote that she gave almost 300 euros.
We have Zelmer about 150 euros (1450 UAH)
The cheapest Kovei and Khuromy are 300 euros.
Sergey Kornilov
Well, yes - the pricing of such goods is a lottery.
Apparently - chains (like Eldorada) wind up 10-20%, and health food stores 100-200%.
irman
As I liked Selmer, he scrolls the grapes with sticks, thanks juliferochka. 🔗
Oca
I was very surprised that the bunch was pushed along with the twig, is it really possible? And it also seemed that there was a lot on the video in the cake
julifera
It is possible, but not necessary, why do we need the smack of a branch in juice
We have drier cake in Zelmera than on video
LLika
julifera, but is it good for tomato juice too? It turns out the same tomato juice with pulp as from the Soviet manual?
In the video, I did not notice that the tomatoes were squeezed.
julifera
Quote: LLika

julifera, but is it good for tomato juice too? It turns out the same tomato juice with pulp as from the Soviet manual?

Tomato chases perfectly And the mountainaaaazdo tastes better than what we played before !!!!!

It's a pity that I left my enthusiasm in the devices, and not here, there it was lost:
Quote: julifera

And when the tomato juice was squeezed out, I could not be pulled by the ears from the bottle of juice, although puree, but so tasty.
But what is interesting - I used to think that I don’t like thick juice, I thought that I only love light juice, without pulp

Quote: julifera

awesome delicate creamy airy puree makes, just like baby food
LLika
I also ask around.
Do bones and skins go to the cake?
Is it good enough to process 3 buckets of tomatoes at once? Or just 1-2 liters for now to drink? And then she needs a rest. That is, rubbing a large amount of tomatoes turns into a pleasure for the whole day, as is usually the case with manual juicing? All the same, it's electric, I want to quickly.
julifera
Quote: LLika

Do bones and skins go to the cake?

Not a bone, not a half of a bone, not a pellet, not a milligram of a skin - it does not get into the juice, all this goes into the cake!
Puree Purest !!!!! We didn’t know before that this was possible!

Quote: LLika

Is it good enough to process 3 buckets of tomatoes at once? Or just 1-2 liters for now to drink? And then she needs a rest.

She works for herself and works, but it is written that in 20 minutes a break is needed.
In any case, she will turn off herself if she thinks that she is overheated, but we did not get to that.
In these 20 minutes, you will twist a bucket of tomatoes for sure!
Then you can safely prepare a new batch of tomatoes, it will rest during this time.

LLika
Quote: julifera

In these 20 minutes, you will twist a bucket of tomatoes for sure!
In 20 min. bucket tomato
I already want this juicer. Showed her husband, said: let's buy.
Where to get so much money. I thought I didn't need anything, everything I needed was already there. Now I'm starting to make a new list
irman
And here in Russia I did not find Zelmer JP1500.
julifera
Quote: Irman

And here in Russia I did not find Zelmer JP1500.

Irman - so take Coway, I think it is no worse. Sergei Kornilov wrote that they are in Eldorado at a pleasant price, as I understood he gave the price in rubles.

Quote: Sergey Kornilov

How much is this?
I Coway in Eldorado for a stock for 5399 took.
Satisfied - like an elephant.

It's not so easy to buy Koveev from us, but Zelmers are on every corner
irman
I'll take a look, thanks.
Sergey Kornilov
I think Covey will be even better.
The company is very well known in the specialized circles.
Assembling Korea.
3 year warranty.
Even if you order it on ebay, the price is not less than 9 thousand rubles. turns out.
And here in Eldorado 5999, plus a coupon you can apply a 10% discount if you order via the Internet.
But this is only in the online store.If you take it in retail, then the price is 10200.
link here


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code word: DISCOUNT10

zhariks
Sergey Kornilov
Price 9999
Sergey Kornilov
Ndaaa
This morning when the message was written it was 5999
On Yandex, the old price remains:
🔗

Well, you can still wait for the action. Or with a discount for 9 thousand to buy. It's up to you to decide.
Still on - the price is 6999 for now.

But the apparatus is definitely worth it.
AILIN
But I liked the kuvings, about 340 euros will come out with delivery, the engine does not get stuck on whole carrots, the loading opening is wider, the auger is more powerful and the engine is, and I liked the fact that the bowl with the auger is fixed + the handle for transferring. For comparison - Hurom HU-400 (gray) -255 euros.

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Eh, there was no such grief before and did not know grief, but now think: screw?, Centrifugal?
Sergey Kornilov
Quote: AILIN

But I liked the kuvings, about 340 euros will come out with delivery, the engine does not get stuck on whole carrots, the loading opening is wider, the auger is more powerful and the engine is, and I liked the fact that the bowl with the auger is fixed + the handle for transferring. For comparison - Hurom HU-400 (gray) -255 euros.

Both Kuvings and Hurom are classics. There are no questions here.
But the price of 340 euros (15 thousand rubles at the exchange rate) and 5400 (123 euros) for Coway are still different price categories. You can't even compare them.
although they compare here:

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And here they test on carrots, and Coway wins !!!
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AILIN
And we have the price in Internet stores, both on Hurom and on Coway, almost the same ... up to 300 euros
julifera
Yes, 123 euros neither for Coway nor for Khur - for us this is unrealistic
Here Zelmer for 150 euros - we are already happy
Sergey Kornilov
123 this price has already gone.
But I did it and I was in euphoria ...
Asya Klyachina
Quote: Irman

And here in Russia I did not find Zelmer JP1500.
Yes, no, we did not, I also flew to her. You can look at the Zigmund Shtain ESJ-767 juicer, it is in the region of 5 thousand rubles. Does anyone have it?
AILIN
julifera Please tell me what is the consistency of apple juice obtained at Zelmer? Depending on the apple variety? Both liquid and puree? All the same, the season for harvesting tomato juice and berries is short-lived, and then, for every day we will make juice - apple, carrot, orange, beetroot, pumpkin. I would like to just drink the juice, and not eat with a spoonful of puree.

P.S. And is it true that the stratification and oxidation of juice is so visible, between the centrifugal and auger SV, which affects the quality of the juice? Please answer, as this will help to determine the type of CB.
julifera
Quote: AILIN

julifera Please tell me what is the consistency of apple juice obtained at Zelmer? Depending on the apple variety? Both liquid and puree?
All the same, the season for harvesting tomato juice and berries is short-lived, and then, for every day, we will make juice - apple, carrot, orange, beetroot, pumpkin. I would like to just drink the juice, and not eat with a spoonful of puree.
From not very juicy apples there is a frank puree, from ordinary apples - thick juice.
Pumpkin hasn't been tasted yet.

Quote: AILIN

And is it true that the stratification and oxidation of juice is so visible, between the centrifugal and auger SV, which affects the quality of the juice?

These tales about stratification, about breaking the structure, of course, touch me. Well, it stratified and what's wrong with that if I drink it all at once. Let me drink with less pulp, but at least get drunk.

The grape after the auger also exfoliated, it is so heavy that I can’t drink it, I barely got over half a glass and I don’t want to anymore, my dad was already tired of persuading me to drink a glass every time I dropped by to them
I ventured to squeeze grapes on my Phillips - a light wonderful juice turned out

After the auger juice is terribly healthy, very tasty, no doubt about it, but it's not very drinkable, it's edible, you won't eat much of it. But the auger will process tomatoes remarkably and efficiently!

AILIN
julifera Thank you very much for your answer!
Sergey Kornilov
Regarding apples, I agree with the previous author. Most of the juice is puree.
But from other fruits and vegetables, I like juice from auger more:
from beets - the juice is very tasty, from carrots juice with a slight pulp is more pleasant to drink than water from a centrifuge. Juice from berries (fresh in summer or frozen in winter) - can be obtained only on auger. Tomato juice and juice from herbs (parsley, dill, sage) are delicious. I made juice from melon and watermelon on auger - very tasty.
Pomegranate juice - rare, but VERY tasty
Pineapple juice - several times a year, but very tasty.
Orange juice from grapefruit - from the centrifuge is full of bullshit, and here is a rich juice with a little pulp
etc.

Layering affects the taste: after the centrifugal juice is water and flakes, which are felt on the tongue, and after the screw, it is a homogeneous structure.
If the apple juice, say, turns out to be very thick, then I dilute it with non-carbonated mineral water, it turns out juice of the "I" type.
Color change is an indicator, after centrifugal juice darkens immediately - because iron is oxidized under the influence of heat and oxygen when the product is grated. After the screw - the juice darkens much later, and you can have time to use its iron.
julifera
Quote: Sergey Kornilov

Juice from berries (fresh in summer or frozen in winter) - can be obtained only on auger.

Yes, I forgot about the berries - they are certainly better on the auger
True, I specifically like berry jelly from under the rub - passaverdura

But I disagree with the following - you probably made juice on some not very good centrifuge?

Quote: Sergey Kornilov

from beets - the juice is very tasty, from carrots juice with a slight pulp is more pleasant to drink than water from a centrifuge.
After Phillips - great carrot juice, no water

Quote: Sergey Kornilov

Orange juice from grapefruit - from the centrifuge is full of bullshit, but here is a rich juice with a little pulp
etc.

NOT TRUE!
Just citrus fruits, and without a special nozzle, Philips presses perfectly, the cake is dry, and the juice is homogeneous
Our favorite juice is apple-citrus!

Quote: Sergey Kornilov

Layering affects the taste: after the centrifugal juice is water and flakes, which are felt on the tongue, and after the screw, it is a homogeneous structure.

Well, my word of honor - it was impossible to drink grapes after the auger, as you call it - the flakes took up half a glass and half a glass of water. So after the auger, delamination also occurs, this is not scary, this is normal.
But after phillips - grape juice is quite homogeneous, and no flakes are felt on the tongue

Yesterday I made grape and apple on Phillips - we drank it right away - I don’t think that so much iron died in this juice, and that my body received too much of it. It is much worse - drinking canned juices, eating jam boiled on the stove - this is specifically a low-vitamin phenomenon, and yet people continue to cook, kill vitamins, and eat it. So a centrifugal juicer is quite capable of bringing us a lot of vitamins and other useful substances.

There is no point in arguing which is better; whoever likes something - he drinks.
Who wants to - dilutes the juice with water, who wants to - drinks the juice separately, water separately, and chews fruits and vegetables separately - if I need pulp, I do just that. Although for the elderly, the auger is certainly a salvation.
In general, I am a supporter for some types of products to have a centrifuge, for others - a screw.
AILIN
Sergey Kornilov And thank you for your answer! What centrifuge did you compare with?
Sergey Kornilov
The first juicer, which has now left for the Moulinex BKA 1 Frutti Pro garage.
I used to like her very much, but then tastes changed. Tastes are in the brain and can change over time.
Now for me auger is the only option.
julifera
Quote: Sergey Kornilov

The first juicer ... Moulinex BKA 1 Frutti Pro.

Then I understand, then the comparison of this model with the screw is simply useless.

In general, I grew up on parental auger juicers, and such a thick juice is certainly good, but I got tired of it for so many years, I really want an ordinary, light-textured juice.

I wrote to our girl in a personal and here I will repeat myself for those who cannot choose the type of juicer:
- it is better to buy a vertical auger first, and only if something is not enough in it, then think about a centrifugal one.

Quote: Sergey Kornilov

Tastes are in the brain and can change over time.

I am still waiting for the time when I start to like carrot juice, but I continue to hate it, in any form, in any combination with other juices - I can't drink and that's it.
I used to hate dill, but I ate parsley, but now everything has turned upside down - dill with a bang, but I absolutely cannot.When my inside clicks on mock juice, because it is so useful ...
Rita
I agree with julifera ... You need to have two juicers. Both screw and centrifugal. I like carrot juice, for example, only from the centrifugal. You don't always want thick juice, although it is healthier. And I don't like apple cider.

julifera, maybe your carrots are not tasty? The juice from different varieties of carrots turns out to be completely different - from frankly bitter to sweetish watery. By the way, despite its usefulness, carrot juice may not all be useful. Vitamin A is almost a hormone. And not everyone needs it. And an outright dislike for juice can speak of this. I go to a wonderful herbalist for treatment - she determines which products are useful for a person and which are not. For example, my daughter is not recommended to eat super healthy buckwheat, beets and eggplants. And to me these same products, on the contrary, are strongly recommended to use.
julifera
Quote: Rita

julifera, maybe your carrots are not tasty? The juice from different varieties of carrots turns out to be completely different - from frankly bitter to sweetish watery. By the way, despite its usefulness, carrot juice may not all be useful. Vitamin A is almost a hormone. And not everyone needs it. And an outright dislike for juice can speak of this.

Carrots are tasty, not bitter
I would say this - I do not digest the smell of carrots, but in the juice this smell seems to be especially concentrated, even if I squeeze my nose, then I smell it with my tongue

I've been listening to my body for a long time, and it always tells me what it needs to be given at the moment.
And sometimes I want and eat carrots for weeks, only in the form of a salad - with an apple, sour cream and sugar, but these days I still don't want the carrot juice itself. If an excess of something is harmful, and carrot juice is essentially a concentrate, then maybe my body really doesn't need so much.
lemusik
And I got used to making blended juice - apples (a lot, this is the base), grape, a piece of ginger, carrots and beets - (small or a piece). It turns out very similar to some kind of berries))) - both in color and taste)))

I also want a screw juicer - when there is extra money and extra space. But I am aware that I will not use it often. Therefore, I am in no hurry and every day I drink juice from Filka)
Oca
I will repeat my question in this thread: no one noticed that juice from a high-speed juicer is more acidic than from an auger?
julifera
Quote: Oca

I will repeat my question in this thread: no one noticed that juice from a high-speed juicer is more acidic than from an auger?

I cannot answer this question exactly, because I love everything sour and I can hardly feel such a slight difference, if there is one.
Sergey Kornilov
And I forgot about ginger ... you can suppress it too, I'll try to press it tomorrow with mint into the morning juice: apple-wine-happy-carrot-beetroot.
AILIN
Owners of auger SV! A request to you, if possible, to post a photo of grape juice, you are very interested in what is the consistency?

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