Dishwasher selection (2)

3 hours she will be there

If you left for work, does it really matter how long the process lasts without you? Or put it overnight.

Wouldn't this procedure hurt the PMM's insides, wouldn't it corrode there, after all, the composition of the same Fairy for brook. washing dishes other than the composition of detergents for PMM? But the idea is very tempting ...

You can just as well pour half a teaspoon of Finish powder into the compartment on the 15 min program. - rinsing or on the program 30 min. dishwashing? That is, use the 30-minute washing program as a rinse, in the case of putting dishes in there instead of the sink in the morning - for future washing on a specific night or in the evening at the end of the day?

Inside there is a stainless steel. That there can be especially eaten with one drop per herd (literally - 1 drop !! Otherwise, the foam can climb). Everyone chooses for himself, I do not insist.)) But mine has been like this for several years. You can also have a little powder - why not, the meaning is the same.

If you left for work, does it really matter how long the process lasts without you?

And if you haven't left? I am a housewife.
And I don't have a wagon of extra dishes, so 3 hours of washing is an unaffordable luxury.

[Lenusya]

Lenusya, I start up in the evening after supper, there are four of us, the car is jammed to capacity

And the dishwasher will not deteriorate from the fact that everything inside it with the door closed? It all seems to me that: either the rubber bands will fall off, then something inside will rust)

Many machines do not have an automatic door opening function. And if they did not open it right after washing (for example, at night in the yard), the meaning is the same: there is a damp dish, drops flow down the walls of the chamber, etc. And it is closed. Nothing seems to fall off from anyone)).

In general, I do not use the rinsing program every day to worry about the typewriter. But it happens.

And I want to say that the car washes everything from me: the dried egg and everything that is possible. The only thing that can leave is burnt on non-non-stick coatings (I first remove it with a wire sponge). But this happens rarely, because from non-non-stick I do not wash in PMM neither aluminum, nor cast iron, nor ordinary steel. Only stainless steel. Your favorite program is either Flex from 45 to 70 (it itself serves / selects different temperatures at different levels) or clean 70 (hot wash). The machine is connected to hot water, and the pre-rinse is also 45-50 degrees.

My inscription is half erased on the PM, it looks unpresentable. Probably I can't fix it.

About Fairy. Here you really need to add Faeries or something like that, more expensive. Because the Sorty Drop, which in principle suits me, because I only wash Teflon with my hands and rinse tea cups, behaves badly in the dishwasher. Leaves some kind of greasy, nasty plaque in the filter area. After which the whole filter had to be washed, and with difficulty. As soon as I bought it Fairey, everything began to work out perfectly. The inside of the machine has become cleaner, it smells more pleasant inside. Although there was no obvious bad smell before. But then she began to smell of cleanliness.

[Nata]

Nata, I also rinse with a drop of feri, thanks for the advice! ... But I may have some food particles left. Apparently rinsing with hot (45-50) water helps a lot. Feri bought Finnish because my "ecological remedy" worked worse, I checked. I think that the PM detergent is not lighter than a regular detergent, I see nothing terrible in using this drop. And hot programs for washing dishes are really recommended, you can use it once a month.



Chamomile, Olya, wrote together! So I am not "paranoid"
By the way,

We called the master for the washing machine, grandma had an old one, some buttons were stuck, how? do not ask - for the very mystery! So the master asked for a feri-moistened the sponge, foamed it and blotted the buttons, said, let's wait, now everything will come off, probably there is no such word. But the buttons are really loose! Therefore, we always have a bottle dangling. So I checked it on PM - the effect is different for different detergents.

And if you haven't left?

if you need to eat earlier than three hours after the next meal, then wash at night or at night do you also eat all the time? ..

Or do you eat all the time at night too? ..

Your sarcasm is not appropriate. And in my opinion, I did not ask your advice on how and when to wash the dishes.

Because Drop Sort

I have Sorty too. I looked - there is some kind of vinegar in the composition, mixed with something. Acid. A vinegar something.

The inside of the machine has become cleaner, it smells more pleasant inside. Although there was no obvious bad smell before. But then she began to smell of cleanliness.

This happens after pills, Feri capsules. But for the ruch. Feri washes are undoubtedly cheaper, yes)

And hot programs for washing dishes are really recommended, you can use it once a month.

And if you use this temperature for washing every day - will the PMM not deteriorate? Will it fail before?

[Marina]

Marina I wash at night, my tariff is cheaper, and I cook mainly in the evening, but it's generally convenient for me! Regarding the open door, it seems to me that a lot depends on who has what kind of drying .. I usually wash for 30 minutes without everything or for 98 - also without everything, but if something is very greasy, then with powder-gel-1/2 tablets (though all Finnish) there are no problems for more than 10 years! I don't understand about the drawing - buckwheat, in the same place in the car there is an immediate drain into the drain under the sink ?! And rinse the filter .. as easy as shelling pears! By the way, it is recognized that the PM is the dirtiest area in the house! I each day I wipe it on top of the side inside!
Lenusya can not be restored, but you can buy a Bosch sticker, but I have the door itself someone Vumny rubbed with an iron washcloth ,,, well, you know what's there !?

I always rinse the dishes before loading them into the machine, if necessary, slightly soak them with hot water

Can you ask a question? Why do you need a PMM if you have already laundered everything? What would be
No savings. That is why we stop for a hundred thousandth time discussing what was agreed upon.
Would you like to pay for water, pay, your right. After a couple of decades, you will remember how you washed the dishes with drinking water before washing in the PMM.
Clean the filter regularly and you will be happy. PMM to make life easier!

Feri capsules.

They smell wildly of chemistry. I use it once a month to wash the unwashed))), or too lazy to pour the powder. Capsules are closer)))

[SIMPLE IODIZED SALT HELPS!]

In general, I do not use the rinsing program every day.

The only thing that can leave is burnt on non-non-stick coatings (I first remove it with a wire sponge).

And I have such a washcloth, but I don't use it for dishes. In the USSR, as I recall, these washcloths were and everything got stuck in them))) You can pour simple salt into burnt dishes, and add the same Fairy or sort for the brook. sinks - everything will fall behind. SIMPLE IODIZED SALT HELPS! And if you still heat it on the stove (whether to put it on a cooling burner) - it's generally excellent. Probably without salt you can. But I usually throw in salt - an excellent result.

Only stainless steel.

I saw on YouTube, a girl teaches to fry on a stainless steel, a frying pan - so that it does not burn. That is, first she puts a stainless steel frying pan on the stove and waits for it to heat up to such an extent that a drop of water that has dripped onto the frying pan rolls over it like a "mercury" ball. And did not evaporate. And only then she either just puts pieces of meat on it or pours oil and fries potatoes. Moreover, an important point: stir the meat, move the potatoes, etc.the products are not needed immediately, but after some time - they set with a crust and no longer burn, but move freely in a stainless pan, like in Teflon. We must wait for the time. before you start mixing foods. I also began to do this and really - neither meat nor potatoes burn on a stainless steel. And the taste of the products turns out to be awesome!

p. from. In which case (I don't always have the patience to wait for the stainless steel pan to warm up) - I soak the stainless steel with salt and a drop of detergent Sorty, etc. everything goes perfectly by itself.

Clean the filter regularly,

In PMM, it is harder to clean the filter than the mesh-lattice in the sink, this is elementary) For many, the PMM filter does not need to be cleaned at all - as good as new)

BUT! About saving water or lack of it at all (if water is taken from a well, in the village, for example) - You are 100% right. PMM perfectly saves water!

That is why we stop for a hundred thousandth time discussing what was agreed upon.

Do you think someone will search for information among so many topic pages? If only from the search engines someone comes on request ... And so - suddenly it will come in handy for beginners.

Inside there is a stainless steel. That there can be especially eaten with one drop per herd (literally - 1 drop !! Otherwise, the foam can climb). Everyone chooses for himself, I do not insist.)) But mine has been like this for several years. You can also have a little powder - why not, the meaning is the same.

Thank you! For me, this is a discovery, I thought - in general, you can't even pour a drop of ordinary funds into the PMM! I will definitely try. Although I am generally a categorical opponent of all kinds of homemade means for PMM. I don't understand the people who make the tablets themselves (vinegar, soda and any other heresy), they pour all sorts of nasty things into the compartments for detergents, rinse aid and salt tanks. and so on. Indeed, 1 kg of powder F-sh for PMM can be bought for 200 rubles. kg and it is enough for a long time, and the rinse agent F-sh is literally this bottle for a year, the salt box F-sh is enough for 2 months, if not more. Yes, even if it will be more expensive - and what, PMM compensates for all this with its economy of water and electricity, personal time, and the quality of dishwashing! I don’t understand all the harmful life hacks from YouTube and not only from there)

p. from. I've read a lot here in your Temko about 25 kg bags of tableted salt - no need to pour it into the PMM - it is not large granular, it is small and compressed - there will be no effect from it!

someone will search for information among so many pages of the topic?

Then why answer ... there is Search. Otherwise, it is regarded as disrespect for users.

In PMM, it is harder to clean the filter than the mesh grill in the sink

Hmm ... the grate in the sink is heavier, I pulled out the filter, rinsed it with hot water and that's it.
But, to each his own.

For many, the PMM filter does not need cleaning at all - as good as new)

ASKO is 10 years old. The purest shiny filter. Washing only 70. And finally, everything shines inside. The nameplates are not erased. One year only thawed it. I forgot to drain the water first. We changed something, and has been plowing for 9 years.
I don't rinse anything in the sink. What for?
At home AEG is 21 years old. The operation is the same. She taught her daughter-in-law.

The finish for PMM can be bought for 200 rubles. kg and it is enough for a long time, and the Finish rinse for a year is literally this bottle, the Finish box is enough for 2 months, if not more. Yes, even if it will be more expensive - and what, PMM compensates for all this with its economy of water and electricity, personal time, quality of dishwashing! I don’t understand all the harmful life hacks from YouTube and not only from there)

CHOT smacks of advertising ... Finish I will not say anything else.

[No misters]

Hmm ... the grate in the sink is heavier, I pulled out the filter, rinsed it with hot water and that's it.

So he took the grate in the sink and pulled out and brushed it into the bucket. rinsed and that's it. And if all this horror gets stuck in the PMM filter ... Moreover, you need to bend down, pull out, unscrew this filter and screw it back ... bend over again ...And you also need to pull out the bottom basket to unscrew the filter! And put it somewhere and make sure that no one drops it))) Experience, in the end! But you are right - to each his own.

there is Search

Not everyone registers on the forum, asks something - just reads and that's it. And when you need something - it's not up to the search!

In general, I started reading from page 1, I saw a drop about Feri in the PMM, rinsing in the sink before the PMM, began to quote, take interest, ask - and this is the result that everything was quoted on the last page) Don't write to people in PM, check with No misters - what and how? Here the topic is raised, questions about rinsing) Sorry for the inconvenience, if that)

[Svetlana7]

Svetlana7,

Sveta, you do not understand)). I can fry. And in stainless steel too. I have a habit of forgetting something to the edren-fen and burning to death)). Thus, several times I even burned "water" together with detergent and greaves from food, which I poured into a saucepan for soaking and put on to warm up)). This is my personal feature)). How many times I burned a pan (made of stainless steel) with a chicken mash is beyond counting. Last time the day before yesterday)). Well, somehow I can do it, yes. It happens. It's just too many things being done at once).

Salt - I don't see the point. Undissolved salt is an abrasive. The same as a washcloth. Only also in the hands of kapets in salt crumb. Better a sponge then. Dissolved salt soaks no better than just water with detergent (and it should be worse in theory - the solution is close to saturation). Besides, I have a septic tank. I do not want to pour so much saturated salt solution there. There are crocozyabs and so no sugar with detergents and products for PMM. Hot water with detergent is enough for me. I pour it in, let it stand (sometimes until the morning) and gently scrub it off either with the hard side of a regular washcloth, or with a wire, if it holds on more strongly. And you need to be careful with aluminum. The metal is active, it easily darkens from this, then from this. It scratches again, I don’t tear it with a wire with all the dope.

CHOT smacks of advertising.

This is my experience of using PMM tools. Immediately everyone writes the names of the PMM and the detergents for them. What do you recommend? Not mustard and soda with lemon for washing dishes in PMM ?!

And if all this horror gets stuck in the PMM filter ...

This is what the filter is for. His job is to hold back the dirt.

need to bend down

It's strange that not up
but, the dishes themselves are stacked on the lower shelf and placed in the cabinet.

burned even "water" along with detergent and greaves

Sistra ..

Not mustard and soda with lemon for washing dishes in PMM?

Ooh, I even tried a self-made gel.))))

Girls! The person is just having fun .. Nata, Lyolya, Lena, Marinochka ... Well, let him write highlighted texts for ... Calm down, if I want you to sing a song ?!

And I used Finish tablets right after the purchase of the PMM, two pieces were a gift. I didn’t like it, but maybe, out of ignorance, I set the wrong settings for the machine, what was needed, or something else. But on the third wash I put the German Denkmit powder and poured their rinse into theirs - there, immediately, the difference became sooo noticeable. Then I read about a drop of Fairy here. Began to drip on the door. True, not a fairy, but this is something that has been lying around for a long time idle

Moreover, on all programs I drip, a drop the size of a five-ruble note. And at the same time I do not pour Denkmit powder into the compartment for preliminary washing. The result is awesome. The car is clean, it smells nice and the filter is clean and not greasy. And I have salt - tableted, bought in a bag, for regenerating ion-exchange filters, I have already written about it here more than once, I will not repeat myself.

[Scarecrow]

Sveta, you do not understand))

Scarecrow, Nata, "we" understood) "We" want to be smart, share))) I didn't even know before that video how to fry on a stainless steel. And I have a lot of it - I bought it specially for washing in PMM)

I threw out the aluminum that was. You cannot wash it in the PMM.yes, and in my version of it, the protective layer has already been erased, there is some kind of film, and aluminum is very harmful to health.
I sprinkle iodized salt for soaking, fine - it dissolves quickly, softens the water, the burnt lags behind. And I scrub it off with something like plastic spatulas, spoons. I pour it out. And then the foam sponges wipe it all off well, just with water and that's it. And then. everything is so fat, but I put the scrubbed main baby in the PMM and - voila)

I already read above somewhere at the beginning of the topic that you have a septic tank. I don’t know what it is, I’ll google it, or I’ll look for your comments in the Search. Do not answer. And then the ladies are indignant (and rightly so). But I guess what a septic tank is. There is no sewer when, probably ... You can't do without PMM! When I remember how to wash the dishes in the village - there is oily water in the basin, everything flounders there ... Brr ...

In general, I realized that the main thing is that many of your actions with water determine the presence of a septic tank.

The result is awesome

Exactly exactly

how to wash dishes in the village - there is greasy water in a basin, everything flops around there ... Brr ...

UzhOs
We always had running water ... even in Kolomenskoye. Mother did it herself, after the war. I looked at them how to do it. Then she embodied it.

[Svetlana7]

Svetlana7,

I don't really agree with you about frying, it's not so convenient in stainless steel, but that's another topic. The fish is not very good, the fried eggs too, to have a frying pan for a separate product is not mine.

At the expense of the filter, I completely agree with you, it is recommended to clean the filter after each wash. I tried .... mmmmm began to rinse. In fact, everyone chooses for himself what is easier for him to do ... more economical, more convenient, etc.
There are such contaminants that it is better to rinse with water and knock out the sink grate. How to wash the filter from ..... let's say small strings of greenery (these are minor dirt? Not the floor of the cutlet). You have to take a brush and clean the filter. And also my headache = jars with labels: girl_mad: who invented nuclear glue for pieces of paper? I remember with anguish, before the labels fell away themselves: crazy: even before the purchase of cans in the store Well, if not fell off, poured water, the label moved away, the coolest non-sticky glue !!!! And now, horrible to wash the filter from the scraps of paper! Believe it or not, I throw out some cans, now I know my enemies by sight!
It is still not recommended to use a program with a high temperature every day. It all depends on the stock of exploitation and the quality of the PM. Of course, now the equipment is not designed for long-term operation, but we can prolong its life by careful use. The high temperature is the wear of the rubber elements.
At the expense of salt, I realized one point: it must be pure and free of impurities. Although I prefer the large faction.
The choice of funds also rather depends on: 1-preferences and 2-wallet. It is easier for me to dose the powder.
It is recommended to clean the PM special tool = 1 time per six months, understandable.

there are users who did not know that they needed salt, rinse aid and that the parameters had to be set, depending on the quality of the water!

Lastly, about repetitions. I don't think they are very harmful. Scarecrow wrote about a drop of feri about 10 times, until it surfaced in messages and I saw it. You don't always know about a chip to look for it in a search engine.

While everyone is here, I'll ask again. When and how much to pour lemons to clean the machine? I didn't do it right away, there was no lemon. I forgot while I bought it

[about the chip]

German Denkmit powder and theirs rinse

I've never seen one! Naturally, it is necessary to take something imported, not local chemistry. And the German quality has always been famous, so they, neat Germans, know a lot about cleanliness. Thank you, I will consider it. The finish is still satisfying, but I want variety. The powder is still inexpensive from them (I wrote the price above), but the capsules, tablets - both from Fairy and from Finish - are expensive. Even for 156 rubles. here are 13 pieces. I bought according to the action - I use them once a week, and the rest of the time I use F-sh powder. I didn't like the somat phosphate-free tablets, plus I don't like it when you need to remove the wrapper with your hands. Paclan powder is not very good either. Although, in general, 1 kg was bought for 100 rubles)

There is a topic on the forum about the choice of means for PMM, but I did not find anything new there either. Only about the bottle of gel F-sh, but I also haven't seen this gel in plastic on sale yet, as for powder, for washing dishes in PMM. On websites I look at reviews about what I see in stores - there are no good reviews, and I will not take risks, take, spend money.

Mother did it herself, after the war. I looked at them how to do it. Then she embodied it.

No words! And my grandmother had a water pump in front of the house, in the garden, a wooden toilet. And also after the war, the district executive committee and grandfather gave them this house, he seemed to be a jack of all trades, he passed the war, but ... I have no words, just what a fine fellow your mother is! Civilization in those years in this country is nonsense!

Lastly, about repetitions. I don't think they are very harmful. Scarecrow wrote about a drop of feri about 10 times, until it surfaced in messages and I saw it. You don't always know about the chipto search for it in a search engine.

Exactly)

[Rita]

When and how much to pour lemons to clean the machine?

Rita, I pour out 150-160g. About once every six months, I can more often, the water has become harder. I take out the baskets. I fall asleep already when the main wash cycle started.
T 70.

[Oksana]

Oksana,

not so convenient

Inconvenient at all! You need to get used to it. But ... What taste of the products ... I bought it for a lot. specially for washing in PMM. Instead of a cauldron or an aluminum brazier in the shape of a cauldron ... This stainless steel with sides 5-6 cm high Esprado firm, with handles, like a cauldron, in silicone. Stew - the very thing, like stuffed cabbage or what. But frying is a problem) Maybe it's for the best, fried is harmful) But. after all, when I fried meat, chicken pieces, potatoes on stainless steel - the taste is extraordinary.

[Rita]

Rita, I pour out 150-160g. About once every six months, I can more often, the water has become harder. I take out the baskets. I fall asleep already when the main wash cycle started.
T 70.

Olya, thanks! And thanks separately for the clarification, pull out the baskets

I threw out the aluminum that was. You cannot wash it in the PMM. yes, and in my version of it, the protective layer has already been erased, there is some kind of film, and aluminum is very harmful to health.

School chemistry course. Aluminum cannot wear off the protective film. When interacting with the atmosphere, i.e., in air, aluminum instantly reacts with atmospheric oxygen, forming a stable oxide film. Any scratch or other abrasion of this film leads to the fact that the place of "damage" is instantly tightened up again with an oxide film. It is not a coating that can be applied to the cookware, it is a consequence of the natural chemical activity of aluminum. It is impossible to deprive it of this film under the conditions of an ordinary atmospheric environment. She is recovering. But the salt solution kills aluminum - leads to its corrosion. The surface loses its evenness and smoothness.

While everyone is here, I'll ask again. When and how much to pour lemons to clean the machine? I didn't do it right away, there was no lemon. I forgot while I bought it

Dishwasher Choice # 1974

clarification, pull out baskets

oops. The lower one is pulled out exactly. But not everyone has the top one. Do not use force. If it does not come out, then it is not necessary. Remove the dishes!))))

I take out the baskets. I fall asleep already when the main wash cycle started.

Why pull out the baskets?
Is it possible to fall asleep with such a program, where there is no preliminary rinsing? There, too, the temperature above 50 degrees happens, almost 70?

[Sveta]

Why pull out the baskets?

Sveta, My manufacturers recommend to take out baskets, dishes, and T 70. I trust them

[For your manufacturers]

Aluminum cannot wear off the protective film.

Probably. Only all the same we cook in aluminum, salt food - it spoils, no longer so silvery-smooth-slippery. as in the purchase. I threw out my Kukmara or whatever its Turkish type of cauldron and I do not regret it) And I have pots and pans with a black coating inside, Teflon or some non-stick - their aluminum bottoms outside became cloudy in the dishwasher even in the rinse mode for 15 minutes. or washing 30 min. - I don't remember. but there was something short - in general, they are not restored, so they remained cloudy)

recommend pulling out baskets,

About taking out the dishes - I know it's clear.Now I will also take out the baskets (after all, there is plastic, the pins are also covered with something)) For your manufacturers know better) I trust them too) By the way, but do your manufacturers write about the lemon directly in the instructions? I'm afraid who writes what about this lemon on the Internet.

By the way, do your manufacturers write about the lemon directly in the instructions?

Let me tell you a terrible secret. Even MILE, in the instructions they wrote about the lemon.
Explore the composition of the PMM and SM cleanser.

[Sveta]

Sveta, My manufacturers recommend to take out baskets, dishes, and T 70. I trust them

Didn't know that! I have written to hang special. tool on the basket.

[Loksa]

Loksa, I have a separate reservation for citric acid. That is called the section - cleaning with citric acid.
Before that there is a section, cleaning with special means. Yes. - hang / put on the basket.

There are such contaminants that it is better to rinse with water and knock out the sink grate. How to wash the filter from ..... allow small strings of greenery

You are smart for writing this! I completely forgot about the greens. Someone else wrote about coffee, how it clogs the PMM filter! It will be helpful for beginners to know this! Greens can only be washed off under the tap above the sink, although you can still wipe the plate with a paper towel or something - who saves water or who has a septic tank, etc.

And also my headache = cans with labels, who invented the nuclear glue for the paper?

Somewhere on the internet I read that people wash right with them and nothing is left out) Probably depends on many reasons. Maybe you should try somehow to soften (with household soap, feri, etc.) these labels, and then rub them with a metal sponge? Or is it straight to wear a rubber glove and what kind of acetone, solvent for glue, to remove the labels from the glass with a cloth, and then rinse this place under water? Is it possible to wipe it off with a metal washcloth and soap? Well, that's if you need cans for canning. I throw them away altogether. I do not preserve because. There are jars with screw caps, I have these. I want to try cooking jam, but I don’t know how to handle these lids, or is it better to buy plastic ones? Well, this is in another forum topic, probably ...

Didn't know that! I have written to hang special. tool on the basket.

So it says on the special equipment) either stick this flat bottle between the pins of the basket or put the tabletted special agent on the bottom of the dishwasher.

In theory, are the baskets dirty too? Now I don't know what to do at all.

I pour out the coffee grounds

to the toilet! You can shake it out into a bag, maybe more correctly into a bag. I don’t throw it into the sink, I had an unsuccessful experience: Is our sink connected through a corrugation ?! I threw out 3 teaspoons of coffee, washed the scoop after the oatmeal, it would seem, what's wrong with that? But no, this stupid corrugation was hammered. Then they cleaned everything. Now I don’t throw coffee and leftovers into the sink Girls, very often "everything" is arranged so that people have problems. Turn on the water all over, the sink is overflowing, I asked why? The answer is hidden behind a stupid layout, something in the risers and so on. Now everything is fine with the drain, but I still wear coffee in .... out of habit.

[Oksana]

Oksana, and I put the chopper in the sink - Now I throw everything there, except for large bones. I got used to it so much that I try to stuff it into the drain as well)))

[Anna]

There are cans whose labels are glued tightly, and there are those that are washed, tattered and deposited on the filter. Between the stripes, in narrow places - I cleaned the filter with a brush from such-uzhoS. Now I check, especially now, when stocks are being eaten. And the greens will stick, you pick out the figs. And once soap from some kind of white mass, it seemed to me it is fat with something? Don't think that I have heaps right there, no, it's like a thin film coating, I didn't notice at first. And then to the touch, with a fright, I was going to even soak this filter in something. I hope I didn't wash off what I needed



Anna, I want it too, but we're still with the old sink!

I want him too

If there is an opportunity, this is a very necessary thing, from my point of view.

I measured the water by the meter, so washing the dishes after lunch for 4 hours in the sink takes more water! It is not difficult for me to rinse the filter after each wash or every time. ECO program can be 3:15 and figs with it, there is no shortage of plates. 65 degrees washes 2:20 more often on it for reasons of hygiene. Do not rinse. Everything is washed except the rim from the broth and frying in a frying pan. Yes, I have a septic tank and a full-size dishwasher sometimes washes 2 r for 4 people. Faery capsules stink to me, but liquid Faerie stinks to me and dishes after it. My powder, the flight is normal

No, a person cannot wash any dishes with his hands like a MACHINE. It is necessary to wash the plate and hide the side and everywhere, everywhere. Spoons, forks, so generally with a white coating, remain in the place where they need to be kept. At least three. Either lime in tap water, or something. And in PMM, these cutlery are washed as if they had just come from the store. So are the plates. You can compare washed dishes with your hands and in PMM: they are all shiny, but washed with your hands - they are stained like plates around the edges, white and not white all the more.
What a "curtain" - you need to wash each plate with your hands for about 15 minutes, and it is generally useless to wash the spoons-forks with your hands - they will be dirty, disgusting, with dried sticky soot (dadada !!!) or white bloom in the places of holding (if there is even more a picture , engraved on metal, or in a stainless steel sample, a brand of cutlery (behind) everything gets stuck in them), and the forks cannot be washed between the teeth, over time all the dirt accumulates there! Plus, wiping the dishes by hand with towels - this is a long torment + fluff from rags on the dishes! Drying of dishes is in progress at PMM! And you can't leave the dishes wet - bacteria multiply on it - fufufu
In the PMM, there are still forks-spoons from the Soviet era, which people washed by hands for years and considered clean - they are washed with Finish to the store condition, as they were back in the 70s of the last century!)
That is, do not equate washing dishes with your hands and washing the same dishes with a dishwasher in any case! Heaven and earth!

It's a day of revelations!

No, that some people simply do not know how to wash dishes, I have already noticed. When you take a plate, and it sticks to your fingers.)) And on the saucepans there are stains under the rim or handles. But the main indicator is a towel for wiping, which is rolled up after a week. No, no, this is not in your garden, these are just examples from the surrounding reality that came to mind after this fiery speech. Because personally, I do not have the opposite experience, but it seems that some dishes from my hands look nicer than from typewriters, and about chronically dirty cutlery after manual washing, I only learned from you.))

But again ... miles of flies ... A lot of people wrote about how pristine their dishes finally became after purchasing a dishwasher. I cannot convey how this phrase once intrigued me! Alas, the miracle did not happen - all my dishes remained exactly the same look as they were. What did I do wrong?

Moreover, I have to wash some places by hand (like limescale on the bottom of pots, for example, or the same protein rim), some items have been completely removed from the dishwasher jurisdiction - well, plastic containers do not have that dazzling squeak / crunch, even crack! And after manual washing - there is.

And what is your dishwasher, if not a secret?

ECO program can be 3:15 and figs with it, there is no shortage of plates.

Yeah, the first commandment of an experienced dishwasher is that there should be a lot of plates and spoons in the house.

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lenchik, I, of course, also do not like everything in the PMM how it launders, here I am in solidarity with you. That fucking rim in the pot ...

That fucking rim in the pot ...

Uh-huh, count - people assure that the dishes are gaining a second youth, and I get them dirtier than I'm used to seeing.
Then she spat, accepting it as an inevitable side effect of convenience - set realistic goals for yourself.)) I look at it easier, and if I don't like any kind of spoon-spoon, I just calmly leave them to the next trash heap.

True, I don't bother much with manual pre-cleaning. Of course, I will scoop up the pieces of potatoes and bones, but that's enough for that. My car is definitely able to digest cabbage with buckwheat in small quantities.))

I look at it easier, and if I don't like a plate-spoon by the look, I just calmly leave them in the next trash heap.

So I do it. Well, as a last resort, home by hand with a sponge.
But in order to rinse all the dishes first under hot water - no, I will not do that. For in that case, I don't need a dishwasher at all.

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lenchik, the rim is like a stumbling block - it always remains, if you do not rub it beforehand or rub it afterwards. But what's the difference, we always have three. I like the degree of washing of plastic, especially any silicone objects (washing silicone from vegetable oil with your hands is a very unpleasant task.) Forks, spoons, I was afraid, but some were washed well, some with colored stains, it's funny, apparently depends on the quality of the metal. The very essence of not washing the dishes is very pleasing, although this activity is not the most unpleasant for me! Everyone thinks that I love doing it. Anyway, it's convenient, free up your time. And not such a bad result, in my opinion. I also reserve any item for the next wash.
But to wash the filter once again, girls, it really is more than a strainer in terms of volume and ingenuity of constructiveness. Not ... not all the dishes are kanesh - but I wash off the small things from the plates.
Some old saucepans have looked a little younger, yes. Probably not every time I washed all the "hard-to-reach" places. : girl_romashka: But I remember in the village we also washed the lumin before Easter with sand. All the same pluses in this hellish machine are, then the hand in the vase does not go, then the toothbrushes are too lazy to get.

[Loksa]

Loksa, here you can’t argue about silicone that is, that is! And all the objects of pretentious form are there too. That is, you can wash them with your hands. But it is much more difficult, it is not for you to rub the bottom of the saucepan with a washcloth.))

I didn't really understand about filters. On mine, only a fatty film accumulates over time, then I wash it under the tap. Once every 3-4 weeks, probably ... Everything else is perfectly frayed by the car and flushed down the drain. Yes, the same stickers on jars - paper ones disappear without a trace (we had such peas, only on the third jar I realized that there should be a piece of paper! I shoved the box back.)) But there are stickers that are gradually washed off from the can, pictures on another computer. Fragments fall out of the picture ... and dematerialize. In the end, there will be a clean bank.

[Bijou]

Bijou, my filter is also 1 time a month, and the pieces of paper are on such sticky glue, there is no piece of paper, and the bank sticks, it really enrages!