Dishwasher selection (2)

Girls, that's what I forgot to say. I drew the hardened parts of the meat grinder and rubbed with a sponge with various means. I smeared a little anti-fat MILAM on one detail. The smeared lay for about five minutes, then I looked - such black spots went, my dear mom, it's good that I only smeared it from the edge for a test. This is a remedy for grease and soot. In general, keep in mind that it cannot be used for such details. I tried to remove old fat from the duralumin duckweed with it, smeared it and waited for a couple of minutes, the fat swelled up straight out and was easily removed with a sponge, but where it was smeared longer, a reaction began with metal, dark spots began to appear, it's good that I had already learned bitter experience and smear - and I follow with three eyes. So I quickly washed it all away. There are many different brands of anti-fat products. I only used Milam, but it is quite possible that in other similar compositions such substances are destructive for silumin, duralumin, aluminum.

The last renovation is the replacement of the heating element. In old cars, it can be replaced separately and the repair will be quite budgetary, but in new ones, like mine, a whole block changes (ten, a gearbox, something else) and the repair costs already 20,000 (12,000 spare parts and 8,000 work).

I wrote in the topic on malfunctions that my Siemens burned out heating element (just assembled) this year. The foreman asked for 5 thousand for the work and almost 10 thousand for a spare part. As a result, I bought a spare part in an online store for 5200 and my husband himself disassembled, removed, installed, assembled from a video. Disassembling slowly took a couple of hours and assembling the same. Despite the fact that he did it for the FIRST time in his life. So they fight exorbitant money for work, and even throw in 100% for a spare part.

So I still do not understand why this drop of Feri on the door ??? What is her plus, what does she do?

why this drop of Feri on the door ???

So that the rinse grease is not smeared on the machine

[Lelka]

So that the rinse grease is not smeared on the machine

clearLelka, Thank you

[Lelka]

clearLelka, Thank you

It's not for me, it's Schochelka Nata who taught it)))

It's not for me, it's Schochelka Nata who taught it)))

Thanks to the scarecrow too !!!

[Wiki]

Wiki, it's great when my husband's hands are sharpened as it should. In our case, the car went to the trash after disassembly). The husband's position is that everyone should do their own thing. I, in general, agree with him, but handy uncles always cause respect and admiration in me.

[Built-in dishwasher BOSCH SPV66MX30R]

Girls, good afternoon. Tell me. please, does anyone have such a car Built-in dishwasher BOSCH SPV66MX30R ... If anyone has, please share your impressions. I will be very grateful. My Hansa, after six months of use, got covered (although I really liked her, but this is my first dishwasher))) there is nothing to compare with), 45 days of warranty repair have expired and now I need to either change to the same one or take the money. or choose another. And now I am again in the throes of choice ((((About BOSH, too, completely different reviews on the Internet, so I turn to you for help. Maybe someone bought not so long ago, but can somehow make up their own opinion about it It is clear that the old BOSHs were much better, but how do the new ones behave?

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, and what hansa was and what happened? It's just that I also have hansa for almost a year already ..

[Mila1]

Mila1, joining the question, what happened? My Hansa is already 3.5 years old, only the door closer is broken, but without it it is much more convenient.

Built-in dishwasher BOSCH SPV66MX30R

I read it on the official website. The characteristics are gorgeous: both a sink at 70 g, and the house has a hygiene function +, and a beam on the floor, and even a third tray for lovers.
If you are satisfied with the price, then um great.
We can only wish you good luck with your purchase.

[Nathalte]

Nathalte, VolzhankaD, girls. Hansa had a ZIM 4677 EV. Was purchased at the end of September last year. But I started using it in mid-April. And exactly one month before the end of the warranty period, she stopped heating the water. ALL. But two months later, after I started using it. I got rusty streaks near the salt compartment, in some places on the baskets (and even small rusted particles fell off the baskets) and, accordingly, rust spots on the dishes that were difficult to wipe off. I wrote a statement to the store, they sent a master from the service department. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT !!! Hansa's representatives said (after the master sent them a photo of rust) that it was my own fault, you cannot wash dishes in cold water! So I didn't wash. The rust appeared before the car stopped heating the water! But, in any case, 45 days passed, the car was not repaired for me. Today I wrote a claim for a car exchange. Now I'm suffering which one to buy ((((



Tanya-Fanya, Tanya, I agree, the characteristics are not bad. The price bites))) And the reviews on BOSCH are now very different. Although it is written Germany, they say they collect it everywhere. And the quality is not right. And they break down almost more often than more budget models. They say that it is better to buy cheaper and change more often. At least the money will not be sorry. But I don’t want to change something once every six months ((((So I’m looking for happy owners of not so long ago purchased cars))) Or, again, change to the same Hansa ((((She, in principle, did not wash something bad)) ) But I'm afraid

Hansa's representatives said (after the master sent them a photo of rust) that it was my own fault, you can't wash the dishes in cold water!

Delirium of some kind ... Just in hot all the processes proceed much faster. And the hotter, the faster. It is not for nothing that delicate programs are designed for delicate dishes. )) And then the stainless steel was allegedly washed in cold water and from this it deteriorated?

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lena, so it brought me into some kind of stupor. But one thing pleases, that 45 DAYS EXPIRED! And now I can change it to another. Maybe I have one such nonsense with rust? Or am I somehow falling asleep wrong? I have the first car and it always starts to strain me when the salt indicator lights up. I open the lid and there is water. At first I remove the water a little, but after all, when you fill up the salt, it still starts to flow out (water). Maybe there is some trick, but I don't catch up?

[Mila1]

Mila1, no, there is only one trick and it is always in the instructions - add salt just before washing, so that what is spilled is immediately washed off. All. The rest of the sins are on the manufacturer's conscience.)) Especially peeling baskets with crumbling enamel. In the first months of use !! This is generally some kind of surr, sorry ... (((

So I’m not to blame))) I fell asleep just before washing)))

So I'm not to blame)))

Nobody doubts!
Usually, beginners would rather be reinsured, fearing of damaging an expensive and long-awaited toy, than risk being careless and ruining something. ))

Sometimes there is a poor-quality cover that leaks along the thread. Salty water is still an aggressor and is capable of rusting anything. Maybe here the same garbage happened, but the service "was a fool" otmazed. What is there to guess, then ... They took the poor thing and okay.

They have not yet taken it (((Today I just wrote a statement. Since the 45 days allotted for warranty repairs have expired, and the repair (did not heat the water) was not carried out on time, so I wrote a claim to the store. They are obliged to replace or return money. applications are allotted 10 days. I am waiting. Then I will write a claim for compensation for failure to provide goods from the replacement fund (I already wrote a request for provision immediately after the machine broke down, but we do not have such an opportunity in the store).1% per day for the entire period of repair or replacement. So while I'm waiting for the results.

And why not often wash on a short, new course? I mostly mine on it. The dishes are not greasy, if there is fat, I brush it with the leftover food into the trash with a napkin

If I wash only on a short program, fat can accumulate in one part (I have a desktop electrolux) and then once the machine does not work (especially if you start it after a vacation, fat freezes in this part), water does not pass through this part and overflow protection is activated.

[Marfusha81]

Marfusha81, it's not just desktop. This misfortune also happens in large suites - some garbage is overgrown with fat and hello, master, clean me!

[Marfusha81]

Marfusha81, it's not just desktop. This misfortune also happens in large suites - some garbage is overgrown with fat and hello, master, clean me!

We found detailed instructions on the internet and periodically clean them with my husband.
And this is nonsense, but the water around until you pull out this detail is immeasurable.

Oops, I have a desktop electrolux, it has been working for 3 or 4 years, it has never happened, but "whoever is warned is armed." True, I don't like the short one and rarely use it, my husband loves to run it while I'm in the city, but this happens rarely, more often he saves up dishes until my return, since I'm missing a couple of days

Well, in theory, the life hack "a drop of fairies on the door" should help in such a situation. Short programs - a lot of fat and not very hot water, as a result of which fat settles on the nets and other parts of the machine. When already in the preliminary rinse, where the "degreaser" is present, it breaks down - it should become much better with this.

Nothing overgrows in the dishwasher, if you do not engage in self-activity, with ersatz powder, and super economy and half a tablet and also washing without detergents. I won't talk about fairies at all

Girls, what does more budget mean? I've looked at Bosch, so they are 25-30 .. And the budget, how much? My second Beko car broke down a year later, so it is also 20-plus. ... You don't buy for 50-60, no .. of course, there are people who buy .. but there are not many people like that ..

Nothing overgrows in the dishwasher, if you do not engage in self-activity, with ersatz powder, and super economy and half a tablet and also washing without detergents. I won't talk about fairies at all

Unfortunately, this is a design feature of Electrolux.
They even wrote on the forum: done crazy. This part will need to be cleaned periodically. But this period can be once every five years, if there are no breaks in work at all.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,

Well, keep quiet)). I've been doing this for several years)). More precisely, I rinse. Because she drains the water after rinsing and then washes with a tablet as usual. But rinsing with cold water is not smearing fat on all plates, but partial skimming)).

I do not insist, everyone breaks his car as he sees fit. But I am satisfied)).

[Natus!]

Natus! And if not feri, and use another dishwashing liquid?

[just a drop !!!]

use another dishwashing liquid?

Olya, any.
Fairy didn't buy. I had in store for flowers, or rather for the fight against aphids.
Indeed, the fairies need just a drop !!! in my case. I tried to pour it ... well, and rinsed it five times to make the foam go away ...
Wax, virgins, experiment! And watch the typewriter. Once a month we wash it with special means.

Hmm, it seems to me that the water does not drain after the first rinse. I'm not sure though.
I'll have to watch. Just at some point I hear a click - the tablet has opened.

And how much is the budget?

I have Kandy sixteen thousand with a ponytail
but we work together with her - I clean, she washes
and the people are not budgetary, everything is in one pmsnout they wash everything at once.

[Nata]

Unfortunately, this is a design feature of Electrolux.
They even wrote on the forum: done crazy.

I do not know on which forum they wrote this, I remember one message I duplicated here, but that blockage was due to the "frugality" of the user.
My Electrolux ESF 4151 has been working since December 2004, there can be no talk of any blockage



NataWash with whatever you want, only when you advise others, warn about the user's actions at your own peril and risk, so that it would not be offensive for incomprehensible breakdowns. Liquid products with increased foaming are not provided by the manufacturer as a detergent.

[one]

Nata, Wash what you want, only when you advise others, warn about the user's actions at your own peril and risk, so that it is not offensive for incomprehensible breakdowns. Liquid products with increased foaming are not provided by the manufacturer as a detergent.

And Natasha did not even call us to wash the dishes with these means. Before "waving a sword", it would be nice to understand the situation or pass by, if there is no time and there is no leisure to understand.
It was only about one! a drop of the product on the PMM door during the initial rinsing. And this is really good advice! The dishes are cleaner, umm cleaner, there is no excess foam, by the way, either. I do not see any objective contraindications for one drop of the product. So, don't panic, plz!

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,

We have discussed this drop of faerie (well, or any other liquid dishwashing liquid) already 100 times a dozen pages ago. It is impossible to pour it because of the increased foaming. A drop in the literal sense. I've been doing this for several years. I have already described everything and explained it as my own way of washing. The people have already tried it. There is no foam from it in the car in that amount. Absolutely not. This is too little.

And we all seem to be not from the nursery)). Do not understand that Faerie is at your own peril and risk? We understand. Or is it written about Fairy in the instructions?))) That's right, not written. And everything that is not specified in the instructions for any technique is all at your own peril and risk.

Olya, any.
Fairy didn't buy. I had in store for flowers, or rather for the fight against aphids.
Indeed, the fairies need just a drop !!! in my case. I tried pouring it ... well, and rinsed it five times to make the foam go away ...

And I said!))) One drop in the literal sense)).

Natus! And if not feri, and use another dishwashing liquid?

Anyone. One drop on the door before starting the program. Most often I have Fairy and LION of different series. Everything else is "charged" as usual. She will wash off this drop when rinsing and then send it to the sewer. The main sink will be with powder or capsule, everything is as usual. The pre-rinse just removes the grease a little better, rather than smearing it all over the machine with cold water.

By the way, I have an Electrolux car. Two years. The flight is still normal. Nothing was clogged with fat. But I really love the 70-degree Intensive program, I often use it.

And I said!)))

This happened with the Fairy. With another such uglinessthere was no foam, although it flopped out of the dispenser. But there the dose is decent, there was a blot on the door))))

[Anastasia]

Anastasia, Nobody waves anything, I try to keep abreast of almost all the technical exercises of the forum, as a rule I pass by. : hi: I'm going by now.

I bought my daughter a budget PMM Venta. Have already used it several times. The question arose: on the same cycle (90 min) the tablet does not always dissolve, sometimes by half, sometimes completely dissolving, and sometimes the whole remains. And one more thing: sometimes it remains in the tank, and sometimes - after the end of the wash, it is in a partially dissolved form in the PMM itself, at the bottom.
It should be? And why could this be?
Denk mit tablets (3 in 1).

[Natusichka]

Natusichka, try to arrange the dishes differently. Perhaps something prevents the dispenser from opening to the end, or the tablet gets on something (saucepan, bowl). It was so with the new PMM, until I realized that the matter was in the arrangement. You can also try other pills.

[Olga]

Olga, thank you, Olga, passed it to her daughter, she will try.

In my opinion, the 90 minutes regimen itself is too short for washing with tablets.
These 90 minutes include many operations, not only washing dishes, but also rinsing and drying. For short modes I use powder.

I also agree about the rules for arranging dishes. There are many videos on YouTube, thanks to which it is easy to understand the subtleties of not only the arrangement, but also the layout of the dishes.

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, see how to arrange a little. We must proceed from the features of our PMM. I had a kind of comfortable place for a high pan, and then it turned out that it was its height that prevented the dispenser from opening.

[Natusichka]

Natusichkamaybe it's the pills? I have Somat on a short program (45 minutes) have time to dissolve.

Stupid question: does your daughter take off the individual packaging from the tablets?

Forum users, tell me, please. I have a Miele dishwasher, she is 5 years old. She washes the dishes 2 times already, and at the end of the program she writes a drain on the scoreboard. There is no water inside the machine, but when you unscrew the filter, there is water inside the chamber. I did as it was written in the instructions: I cleaned the filter, drain pump and check valve (by the way, there was no debris there). But still, in the next washing cycle, it again wrote on the scoreboard: drain. Who had this, what should be done next? After all, in case of a breakdown, Mile usually gives an error code, but here it just writes a drain. Where is the blockage and how to remove it?

[ludmila_27.79]

ludmila_27.79,

Mine had a ball valve (just a metal ball inside) and at the location of the ball everything was overgrown with all sorts of rubbish. Have you checked it? It is disconnected in the drain neck.

Yes, I have a ball valve too. I unscrewed it, cleaned it, it was clean, there was no debris. I also turned the wheel under this valve, there was no debris either. The instructions only say about these actions. But the machine continues to drain, but it washes the dishes anyway

[ludmila_27.79]

ludmila_27.79,

The next assumption is - water overflow is not going? There is a float in the pan - an overflow valve, is it working normally? You can hear a small drain into the sewer - listen on occasion. But to get to the pallet only by disassembly. It's just that my husband took apart and assembled our Milka 8 times, I saw all her intestines with my own eyes)).

[Scarecrow]

ScarecrowLooks like something broke at Miley. I didn't do anything except clean the filter and drain pump. I turn it on, and she writes error F51. Is it time to contact the service?




On the Internet they write that this error means: Heater pressure switch. Cause:
Heater relay defective; contact open or Heater relay solenoid is faulty or Heater pressure switch is shorted or connection is open or Switch / system connection is open or Foreign matter in switch.

[ludmila_27.79]

ludmila_27.79,

Service, of course. Have you played with lemon on the hottest program? Can there be scale?

I don't clean with lemon, but special. means. I think it got clogged up somewhere further. I usually use the Eco program, but there is a low temperature and the filter is always in fat and fat also in hard-to-reach places. Probably somewhere this fat clogged and now gives an error. I shouldn't have been using the eco-program all the time and using eco pills, they also cope badly with fat.