Dishwasher selection (2)

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Is it permanently connected to you? Through a hole in the hose counter?

The same story, only one master. The month is coming to an end, but our horse is not lying around. The third day does not come. We tolerate only because of what we do as ourselves. There is nothing to find fault with. The husband croaks that he will make repairs by the New Year.

So they are doing us very well. True, they are already laughing, they say, if you put more bricks, then forget our phone))))

[Ann-Anya]

Ann-Anya, Yes

but not a little money

will be wasted, that is, in vain.

I support. The game is not worth it ...

keep within 75 - maximum 100 thousand rubles,

for half you can buy PMM, and live a normal life. But ... the owner is a master.

There is already a shredder under the sink and special for it. siphon, and even a filter for drinking water, and a separate filter for the washing machine.

you are clearly explained WHAT will need to be done.

clearly explained WHAT needs to be done

It's obvious. But I see how much space is under the sink, it is difficult to turn around with a tool (crimping keys, etc.) to connect something else. Therefore, the connection to the mixer is justified from this point of view.

[I see]

It's obvious. But I see how much space is under the sink, it is difficult to turn around with a tool (crimping keys, etc.) in order to connect something else. Therefore, the connection to the mixer is justified from this point of view.

But, Anya, perhaps connection wizard from service, I would see there is a possibility of connection. Moreover, they did heaps of PMMok connections, and there were different non-standard situations, for sure. They, as they say, ate the dog on this. Find a service technician, at least go with your circuit to some service center and try the masters there. What will they say.

We recently connected ours, my husband did it himself, according to the instructions. Drain - into a siphon under the sink with a separate branch pipe for connecting a washing machine or PMMK. We previously had a washing machine stuck in it, but now it has moved into our bathroom. And the set of water was connected to the water supply, the craftsmen made piping there. The pipes are plastic, everything is done quickly, the faucet is installed, I usually close it when the PMM is not used. Just in case. I am sure that the specialist will find the correct and suitable solution from a technical point of view in your case too. And to make it convenient to use.

[Mona1]

Mona1, Thank you. Tomorrow I'll try to call the plumbers who did all the wiring for us in the kitchen and bathroom. I somehow have more confidence in them than in service providers, who are easier to say "no" and that's it.

[Anya]

Anya, and the washing machine in the bathroom absolutely does not fit?

But I see how much space is under the sink, it is difficult to turn around with a tool (crimping keys, etc.) to connect something else. Therefore, the connection to the mixer is justified from this point of view.

The dishwasher is connected in the same way as the washing machine. No wrenches are needed - the nut of the inlet hose should be tightened by hand, and the end of the drain should be stuck into at least something, so that immediately after it there is a void of a larger diameter.
The only difference is that it seems that all dishwashers are equipped with aquastop by default, while only a few washing machines. The aquastop valve has considerable dimensions and places when connected, it still requires. ((

There are a bunch of photos of the use of non-standard options for placing washing machines in very cramped cases:

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Girls, some of you here said that you could "shove in the uncrowded" in this kitchen. And they would have done it differently from ours. Suggest me options !!! (You can in a personal.) Preferably from standard modules (which you can quickly buy and assemble) and with the equipment I already have and with a 45 cm dishwasher (or even 60 cm - I really want everything big). Maybe I just came across uninventive kitchen workers. Maybe I just have little experience in communicating with them. I think maybe it should have been planned from the very beginning from purchased modules, and not to order. Only, please, without moving pipes, chiselling walls, moving the washing machine to the bathroom.

There are a lot of photos

Thank you! I'll take a look ... But I'm afraid that for changes in the bathroom it is necessary to "hammer, move pipes, dilute the dirt, and do not give the person a meal or wash after work." I promised not to do anything like that.

[Ann-Anya]

Ann-Anya, Here is your option for placement - right in the kitchen is located both a washing machine and a dishwasher. See the very first photo of the collection.

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I think maybe it should have been planned from the very beginning from purchased modules, and not to order.

Nooo ... Custom tailoring can never be compared with consumer goods.)) In small spaces it is impossible to use space with maximum efficiency if you use only ready-made modules. It was just that from the very beginning it was necessary to carefully plan everything on your own to the smallest detail. And more than once. And it would be even more correct to bring the discussion to the forum - often a new successful concept is built around someone's idea. Our kitchen is not 5 meters long, but a lot of equipment was purchased, so the measurer also said that it was impossible to cram all this. But when they poked him with a finger what to put, it turned out that the places were just dofig!)))

Ann-Anya, Here is your accommodation option - a washing machine and a dishwasher are placed right in the kitchen. See the very first photo of the collection.

No, it shows me nonsense - a narrow wash is deployed sideways in the corner and looks at the sink.

the first photo of the collection.

Is this a bathroom? Is there a very shallow washer in the first picture, standing sideways near the sink?
It will not be possible to put the washing machine in the bathroom "with little blood" because of the electricity supply. It would be necessary to chisel the wall in which (behind the toilet) the risers. It seems that this is generally prohibited. And just throwing a wire in a wet room is scary. We do not have grounding in the house. So the wiring is not quite "correct". There is an RCD, but when we were still discussing everything at the beginning, I wanted a mirror with lamps in the bathroom and the electrician advised me against it.

But when they poked him with a finger what to put, it turned out that the places were just dofig!)))

Show me your finger too!

[Ann-Anya]

Ann-Anya, it's a kitchen. Just move your kitchen sink to your gas stove. and put the washing machine and dishwasher in one row.

move the kitchen sink to your gas stove. and put the washing machine and dishwasher in one row.

well, yes, then it will work out.

There are various options for placement, combination, superstructure in cramped spaces.

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[Anya]

It will not be possible to put the washing machine in the bathroom "with little blood" because of the electricity supply.

Anya, I do not have sockets in the bathroom, it happened so, and therefore the extension cord is used every time, brought it, took it away, but it’s easier than lugging around
in any case, the place of the washing machine can be replaced by pmm, everything is ready there, both water and drain
and transfer the washing machine to the bathroom, it connects to the water is elementary, a normal locksmith will do everything in a couple of hours
or I don't understand something at all, but I was so upset when I saw this cart with pm (((

by the way, as for the lamps in the bathroom, you can use diodes on batteries-accumulators, they are mounted on a mirror or a wall, as it is more convenient, for local lighting and you do not need to carry out anything

[Anya]

Anya,

I also lean on your advice to buy a step-down transformer for an American dishwasher.

Yes, one small thing, the transformer must be for a sufficiently powerful 3 kW, when the garbage heats the water consumes 2.2 kW. Accordingly, the dimensions. A pulse generator is not an option, it is expensive and they die more often. Another nuance, our American garbage dumps are not repairable at all, for the same reason they are designed for a voltage of 120 volts 60 Hz.
Keep in mind that garbage hoses are not designed for permanent dynamic deformation, they will break, moreover, any, even American.
In general, the idea is not ice.

In general, the idea is not ice.

that's what we're talking about, but ...

sufficiently powerful 3kW,

it also needs to be attached, but it is heavy. I'm talking about Calm.

The foreman who makes our kitchen repair damaged his hand. Will heal. The husband made a mistake, suggesting that the renovation would be over by the New Year!

I will propose to install an EXISTING washing machine (most likely not built-in) in the bath UNDER the sink, which will need to be replaced. In the internet there are many photos of how it looks. Yes, at first it will be a bit high, but then get used to it and you will not notice any special inconveniences

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We have a sink at a height of 90 cm, and we deliberately did this, not because of technical necessity, but for convenience, so as not to bend over either when I wash my hands or when I brush my teeth.
And, by the way, for your greater convenience, you could take a narrow washing machine, since you have a budget of 100 sput, you perfectly both PMM and another washing machine (if you want) will purchase and install, and you will also have to "wash" it.
Good luck!

I just bought 60 pieces of tablets for PMM Fairy at the Metro at 445 rubles. There are Faeries at 445 platinum, but there are 50 of them in a pack. Is it inconceivably expensive? I have never bought the full price)). I took 4 packs. This is at least six months. In six months I will wait for the next action somewhere)).

Well, now I'm with a dishwasher too. Yesterday we bought a kitchen in Ikea and PMM was also there right away. I can't even believe it. Now wait until everyone is assembled and connected. And we are happy!!!

[Scarecrow]

ScarecrowThanks a lot for the tip! The price for a tablet is less than 10 rubles for platinum - that's great!
Olya2017, sincerely congratulations! New culinary masterpieces in a new kitchen with wonderful gadgets-helpers!

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya,

Yes, the price tag said 7-something-a pill.
At first I thought such a price from 60 packs. The price tag is so strangely written. I dragged myself to the checkout with them. No, 445 for a pack of 2 pieces. If one - 450 rubles.))) The check is in my hands, I saw everything at the checkout and in the check)).

[Natasha]

There are Faeries at 445 platinum, but there are 50 of them in a pack.

Natasha, and these tablets wash dishes well?

[Natasha]

Natasha, and these tablets wash dishes well?

In the PMM? I just wash them)). A few pages ago we discussed the means. Perfect result on my crappy water. Both platinum and regular.

[Natusik]

Natusik, thank you very much! Can you take a photo?

[Cook]

Cook,

Oh, I got you confused. And everyone, probably. FAIRY CAPSULES. Regular capsules.

If not difficult, take a picture to have an idea.

[Cook]

Cook,

Here you go.






Ahh, I got mad to insert images and edit))).

[Natasha]

NatashaThank you so much !!!

Girls, and this is how dishes smell to me after Fairy capsules, I just can't. Even add. rinsing does not help. Maybe just one capsule is too much for my compact Boshechka?

[Tricia]

Tricia,

Probably overkill. Bosch tabletop? And the capsule, unlike the tablet, cannot be divided into 2 parts. I take pills for the table and divide them in half. I do not add up with the powder at all. Features of water.

Features of water.

Have you got lime?

Bosch tabletop?

We have a floor-standing, but small-table-top, yeah. So it turns out that even if it is possible to wash it with capsules, washing with simple, cheapest tablets, because the capsule cannot be cut, and if it is whole, that is, from the dishes it is impossible. But a drop of Faery on the door and you can wash it with half a pill! ... Savings, however.

and the dishes smell like that after Faery capsules, I can't just

aha, and to me ... when the dishes are not enough, and I put the wash with a capsule.
Half a tablet for a small amount of dishes or powder.
When full load, it doesn't smell.
But, it smells to me after everything.

Faeries smell terribly for me and the dishes are soapy after them, although the Bosch is 60 cm.Then I put it on rinsing again

soaping after them

Yes? Checked it out. Nope, not soapy. Current smell .. to me. My husband doesn't smell ...

I seem to be starting to understand. Cars of different classes of washing .. or the PMM themselves of different classes.

Have you got lime?

Iron and lime.

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, I do not like the bottle Fairy, it stinks to me, although it washes well.

At first, the finish tablets seemed smelly to me. Then the smell was gone. Probably used to it. But my most often on the longest mode.
If on fast mode, then finish powder and a little.

[Nata]

Natahow are you saved? We have iron - it's horror, we practically don't wear white.

Girls, I use it in my baby, in a village where the water is not ice, the powder from the amway is not cheap, well, you need to sprinkle it a little, and no smells, though I periodically pour lemon into the gargle - for prevention I do not use it anywhere or finishes, no rinses, for me only water should be in rinsing, well, maximum lemon ... but these are my cockroaches

[Nata]

Natahow are you saved? We have iron - it's horror, we practically don't wear white.

For me, only Faerie capsules solve the issue perfectly. Try it. It should help you too.

I always use soda ash in the washer. It costs 30 rubles. pack. 1 tbsp is added. l. for washing.

[Chuchelka]

Girls, thanks for the tip about the Fairy capsules, special thanks Chuchelka for information about discounts in the metro, today finally the promotional capsules appeared with us, I managed to grab the last 2 packs from the shelf and immediately tested them. In general, I liked the result, although not without but. For some reason, my husband's mug did not wash, although it was cleaner than mine, but mine was as clean as it was today) Earlier, after the pills, the finish and the ribbon of the bowls from the multicooker were clean, but they smelled of the products that were in them before the sink, now they do not smell of anything , I really liked it, although I did not immediately believe in it and sniffed the bowls from head to toe and up and down - absolutely no smell. The rest of the dishes also smell nothing, even a plastic salad bowl, it feels the same as after the finish, there is no soapiness, but the silicone spatula and the lids from the multicooker smell of something ... either these capsules, or some kind of food could not I could not determine it myself, my husband also could not, said that he seemed to smell like chemistry. In general, out of harm's way, I decided not to wash the silicone with the fairies, but otherwise I'm happy, especially at this price I snatched.

[night_furia]

night_furia, my tea plaque is also not always washed off. I sin on myself that sometimes I don't put the cups steadily.

my tea plaque is also not always washed off

I still wash the plaque with soda, and then wash it in the PMM, I don't put very dirty dishes in the PMM, I have a fad, after I saw dishes with dried food in some houses, where only they wash in PMM, I can't do that , my dishes should creak everywhere and on the bottom the same

I saw dishes with dried food

Most likely, the dried food remained because the dishes were placed incorrectly, the machine is not to blame