Dishwasher selection (2)

My primitive Bosch has been working for almost 9 years on a daily basis. It washes perfectly, even if the dishes have stood for a couple of days (this happens when a husband or mother is in charge of the kitchen - they wash the dishes with their hands). The result depends on the detergents. I like Bioretto tablets with Ozone. I buy them too.

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrowwhere are you dripping? Straight to the bottom of the car?

faerie capsules

Pts even cool wash Loved them.
But on ozone I bought tablets, Filtero and Paclan. Here's something I didn't like the smell of the cups (((Same as from "BioMio"
Sometimes I use half of the tablet. The result is pleasing. The smell disappears
Tired of buying separately. Either the salt is wrong, or the powder is over.

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrowwhere are you dripping? Straight to the bottom of the car?

At the door. Here's how it is open - drop a drop on the door and turn on the sink. Fairy is a thick thing, it will be washed off only at the beginning of irrigation with rocker arms. And sometimes there is a little water at the bottom and before washing the pump is sure to turn on - it pumps out the remains from the previous wash. Maybe your fairies get there and suck up too)). In addition, I now have a machine connected to hot water (the limit is up to 60 grams, but I have 50 grams of hot water supply) - finally, the fire turns out. It is not perfect, but it washes everything off perfectly already on rinsing. Just as usual, you "fill" the car to the sink, pour in powder or put a capsule, drip faerie on the door and close it. All. I've been doing this for several years already. The water entering the machine passes through the salt and ion exchanger into the chamber. But then he runs in a closed loop. Dirt from dishes, like fairies in water, does not get anywhere except the washing chamber. And then they just pour down the drain. Just don’t pour the fairies with tablespoons, otherwise the foam will climb out of all the cracks)). Just as I say, literally - drops on the door and that's enough. Then in the process you will see what's what - just open it and admire it. I drip generously, but first do it modestly to see how much, okay?



Accomplishment,

I stopped buying powder for washing and switched only to capsules. Not on purpose. Such a hellish bodyag began with the PMM installed on that mement. One was thrown out because everything turned white and nothing helped. Probably a kapets came to the ion exchanger. Then, a few years later, she became pregnant with Mila. She did not react to anything at all: the result is either a little better, sometimes a little worse, but the whiteness is constant. In Boch, which is in the gazebo - the same garbage or a fickle result. The capsules just saved the situation, and Mila plowed on them as cute for several more years. And I'm used to them. Bought now Electrolux (on Mile a toad strangled))). The result on powders is bad right away - some kind of whiteness, does not wash well. And I had a lot of powders from previous experiments)). But the car is new, you can't blame it on an ion exchanger. In short - I'm sitting on capsules)). Probably I have some problem water. I played with hardness settings, the amount of rinse aid - nope, some kind of garbage at the exit.
I buy a lot of capsules by shares. I have not bought it for the full price yet)).

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, Natasha, thank you. I'll try it today. I also took the fairy capsules, everything is fine, but the lemon smell is a little annoying to me, in no way, after biomio, I will not get used to it.

and I have cast iron, my only six months in PMM them

Girls, you made me happy !!!! As I got bored with these cast-iron gratings, they don't really wipe themselves off with their hands, some kind of rough cast iron, everything gets hammered into the pores. In PMM I was afraid to wash, there were only prohibitions around. BOTTOM !!! But since you are washing everything, I will try today too !!!
Is it better to wash on some specific program or, as usual, can you stuff all the dishes with it?

[Natasha]

NatashaI shove with other utensils. When there is room.

As I got bored with these cast-iron gratings, they don't really wipe themselves off with their hands, some kind of rough cast iron, everything gets hammered into the pores.

What lattices are we talking about?

[Olga]

Olga, Thank you! Hurrah!!! Finally my torment will end.
But, by the way, I washed the Soviet cast-iron pan in the PMM, so it got rusted. After that, they became even more afraid. Cast iron is different or what happens?

What lattices are we talking about?

about cast iron, from a gas stove

How I got fucked up with these cast iron bars

the grilles from the kitchen hood are also mine in pm. My everything that shoves. And if it doesn't fit .. then in parts)))

And if it doesn't fit .. then in parts)))

Or diagonally ... skewer so mine)))))

I'm afraid. I am also afraid of cast iron pans.
Once, long ago, I stuck metal parts from a meat grinder. I took them out in black. And my hands from them were black, smeared.
I don’t know what kind of alloy was there.

the grates from the kitchen hood are also mine in pm

here, too, mine, but it seems to me that the fat is washed off very badly. Although everything else washes perfectly. Means to change or what? Long and hard I sit on Somat powder.

I am afraid

I have 4 grates on the stove. I will conduct an experiment on one today, it's scary to stuff everything right away.
Or maybe some detergents are more gentle on cast iron? Who washes these gratings with what?

And if there is no room, I postpone washing the grates until another start of the PMM

here, too, mine, but it seems to me that the fat is washed off very badly.

It is necessary to wash more often.)) I'm serious. If I suddenly gape and miss the moment, then the oil grabs so much that it does not wash off the first time. Then I either leave it for the next wash, or insert it into the hood, but I repeat the wash within a week. And so on until everything is washed off.

But it is much more correct from the very beginning to wash on time, because it turns out more carefully - the filter is absolutely dirty and all of it gradually begins to be washed. And when I wash it recently, where there are absolutely clean areas and there are absolutely dirty ones, the clean ones suffer greatly, because aluminum nevertheless decomposes in the dishwasher and flows into the sewer.))

You need to wash more often

once a week at two mine. Damn, is it even more often necessary?

I'm sitting on Somat powder

left him. He was awesome at first. Now only pills and capsules.

because aluminum nevertheless decomposes in the dishwasher and flows into the drain.))

do you think the whole leak? Or is it enough for our century?

Travel capsules - are they Faeries?

is it a faerie?

yeah, I didn't use others and I don't know
Wash and wash well

And after the Faerie capsules, the dishes stink of Fae and soap. I do not like them, after them I send them on rinsing

mine on a long program.
If the program is short, then only powder or half a tablet. And yes, right in washing the dishes
Began to wash on an automatic program.
I do not interfere with the machine working

Oh girls, I read you here and do not understand what to buy, where to get it ???, maybe some kind of rating can be made on detergents for PPM? I looked Fairy is not a fig not cheap.
I asked my husband about the hardness of the water, he said normal water, for example, I don't add anything to the washing machine, like there is Kolgon.
Okay, let's read on) hiccup stock)

[Irina]

Irina, you just need to take on the shares, then it turns out quite normally.

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, so after a 3-hour program I have soap, and they stink

once a week at two mine. Damn, is it even more often necessary?

Oh, damn it ... It's kind of normal, I don't wash it more often. I would say that even less often in ordinary life.

do you think the whole leak? Or is it enough for our century?

Well, I have ... ten years, I guess? filters are washed. The view is very much lost in the frame, straight eaten in places. The mesh itself seems to be holding.)) It depends on the quality of aluminum - in this thread, one forum member said that he washed out the rivets from the knife.)) But for many years. I have rivets on a cheap saucepan that are steely steel, at some magnification it can be seen that as if mice had gnawed them.)) However, I do not recognize the rivet handles as a class, so there is little sadness - there are 2 such pots for the entire huge park, and only those for gas.

[Margonica]

Margonica,

Capsules are unambiguously expensive, so wait for a promotion somewhere in the Metro (most often they are sold there at half price). That's the only way I buy))

Girls, whatever you want, of course, but to wash cast iron in PMM - nooo. This is to ditch the cast iron. It will rust and wash off the non-stick film. That is, you simply "kill" the functionality of cast-iron pans. This, of course, does not threaten the grilles, but they can easily rust.

About the grilles of the hood. There is such a remedy - a grease remover from Bugs or a cheaper analogue from Unicum. Spray the wire rack, let it sit for 5 minutes and rinse. Then you can go to PMM to make it great. There is such a layer of fat and such a dried fatty film that PMM tries, but she is not a magician. I wash both the oven and the stove with this grease remover.

OlgaGera, so after a 3-hour program I have soap, and they stink

Question to the car. Obviously does not rinse properly. Maybe you can change something in the settings? I know how many years I have been washing these capsules, in three cars the flight is normal. If the smell is a subjective thing (it doesn't smell to me), then there is definitely no soapiness. A car for 60 or 45?

Question to the car. Obviously does not rinse properly. Maybe you can change something in the settings? I know how many years I have been washing these capsules, in three cars the flight is normal.

Maybe the hardness of the water is very different? As far as I understand, your water is very tough, if without tablets there is a white coating on the dishes. Therefore, everything that can bind with hardness salts and there is nothing to wash on the last rinse. And if the water is soft or of medium hardness, but softening is set, then hence the soapiness is superfluous. Mm?

[Bijou]

Bijou,

Can. This means to remove the hardness set in the settings to a minimum so that the water does not soften so much. Or turn on the "Tab" key / function if available. In this case, the water is not softened through the salt loaded in the machine, but only with the salt that is in the tablet and this will be enough.

In short, try to twist something ...))

Can't there be soap on the dishes if there is a lot of rinse aid? If you reduce it?

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, I have a Boshik 60 cm.With a powder, not soapy, but with tablets, capsules and gel soapy

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, I have the same story with whitish stains. This is our water. At first I played with powder, but now only pills. Moreover, 45 and half a tablet is normal if the dishes are not very dirty. And now the desktop and even more excellent! I use Clean & Fresh or FILTERO tablets. Tried a bunch of others - nonsense.



I also liked this gel Dishwasher Gel 5+ FIVE PLUS concentrate. But I do not use it all the time, but if I wash a lot of containers at once or something else delicate.

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, I have a boshik 60 cm.With a powder not soapy, but with tablets, capsules and gel soapy

Because in all tablets and capsules, in addition to the detergent, there is an additional dose of salt and rinse aid. Probably overkill. Look for the function of tablets in your machine. It cuts off the salt and rinse aid supply from the machine itself if you are using tablets / capsules.

[Margonica]

Margonica,

I looked Fairy is not a fig not cheap.

We stomp into the store and buy a large package of powder, a large bottle of rinse aid, a pack of salt. Preferably for the Somat or Finish promotion. Enough for a long time, very economically, much more profitable than newfangled products marked with IVF or pills.Next, we adjust ourselves and adjust the trash heap for water hardness and dirty dishes.

we buy a large package of powder, a large bottle of rinse aid, a pack of salt. Preferably for the promotion Somat or Finish

So we do. The dishes are washed very well, only the filter from the hood is rather weak. Or maybe I am sprinkling little powder?

By the way, yesterday I washed the grill from the stove in the PPM. Nothing rusted anywhere. Happy as an elephant!

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, you are in St. Petersburg, you cannot understand us

We stomp into the store and buy a large package of powder, a large bottle of rinse aid, a pack of salt. Preferably for the Somat or Finish promotion. Enough for a long time, very economically, much more profitable than newfangled products marked with IVF or pills. Next, we adjust ourselves and adjust the trash heap for water hardness and dirty dishes.

Well, of course. Everything is so simple, but I didn't guess)). Together with her husband, moreover. Salt and rinse is all clear. They are already flooded / filled up. But for some reason, powders with my water do not roll. I tortured 3 cars. I changed programs, powders, settings: I added salt, decreased salt, set the maximum, added and decreased the rinse aid (I had 5 positions on Mile, it seems, on Electrolux 7, it seems), generally turned off their supply from the car (the tablet mode must be turned on, and suddenly??). I'm sick! with these settings and powders. The result is capsules. I don't know what the trick is. The dishes are not white, not cloudy, without streaks. Rinse aid and salt I have Finish.

Mila was the first to start to freak out. For several years I "ate" everything, then - basta. Bosch began to behave in the same way in the gazebo and immediately with the purchase - Electrolux, which replaced Mila. If in Milka I blamed on the killed ion exchanger, then what about Lyusya ?? Probably something has changed in the composition of the water. I spat, I got tired of this and that result and returned to the capsules. I just buy them only for the promotion, otherwise the toad is crying.

PS: I recently gave a friend two healthy plastic containers with powder)). Stood, stood ...

We stomp into the store and buy a large package of powder, a large bottle of rinse aid, a pack of salt. Preferably for the Somat or Finish promotion. Enough for a long time, very economically, much more profitable than newfangled products marked with IVF or pills. Next, we adjust ourselves and adjust the trash heap for water hardness and dirty dishes.

Yes, this scheme works, I refused pills, there is enough powder for a year.
Stove Combustion, cast iron grates I have only been in the car for many years already.
And with filters from the hood I do, as Chuchelka said, first a grease remover.
Try different options, load the car more boldly, save your hands and time ...

[Olga]

Olga, Scarecrow, A very common problem with water hardness and the presence of iron in it, which, alas, cannot be removed by an ion exchanger. We must try to pick up the amount of powder, it can be either a lot or corny little.
The tablets have a different composition, read Fairy Platinum
> 30% phosphates, 5-15% non-ionic surfactants, (actually anionic surfactants) oxygen-based bleaching agents, polycarboxylates, <5% phosphonates, enzymes, fragrances, citronellol, limonene, linalool.
If there is a lot of iron in the water, tablets are an option, but not very cheap.

[sazalexter]

sazalexterI hope you noticed that we are from the same city with Natasha? By the way, my sister also toiled at first with her dishwasher, now only pills.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,

Yes, we have ferrous water. I faced this many times. In theory, water treatment should be appropriate when supplying water to houses, but, apparently, everything is as it is)).

[Olga]

Olga, Nata, No offense, but the whole speech was for Margonica

No hard feelings. It's just that suddenly someone has the same water. And apart from the pills, nothing helps.

Nothing rusted anywhere

with a start!
No, well, I wouldn't wash the cast-iron pans. But the grates from the stove are only there.
Soap from Ardo lattice, now from my Chinese one. Nothing rusts

I decided to wash one grate. I'll look at the result. My grates are large, if you wash two, then nothing else will enter.

[Elena]

Elena, I also have large grates, and the machine is narrow, mine is also one at a time)))

then nothing else will enter.

Will come in! I load the lower basket, and on top, on the dishes, I put the grates face down. I also have two, one slightly overlaps the other.

I'll send the other three today)
Straight from the shoulder, don't rub them, rub them now

[Margonica]

Margonica, We stomp into the store and buy a large package of powder, a large bottle of rinse aid, a pack of salt. It is desirable for the Somat or Finish promotion. Enough for a long time, very economically, much more profitable than newfangled means marked with IVF or pills. Next, we adjust ourselves and adjust the trash heap for water hardness and dirty dishes.

Yes, I have the task of setting up the PPM, I also deducted that my PPM has a connection to hot water, I have not yet understood this trick. We have a gas boiler and my water heats up from the set boiler temperature)) so I think it is worthwhile to strain and connect or leave it cold as it is? We will put the filter on the water, because the boiler is also a new expensive one, I don’t want to ruin it with our not clean water.

[Margonica]

Margonica, Hot water is connected as a last resort, washing will not be worse in your case, but there will be problems with drying dishes, unless of course a garbage can with condensation drying. If the drying is convectional like mine, then it doesn't matter at all, you can also connect it hot.

I have the same thing.
The masters dissuaded me. The boiler / boiler is not nearby. Hot water will have time to cool down. Entering the machine in small portions. It just won't have time to drive the water away. A fur coat on pipes will not save.
Voshchem refused the money. Motivating that then it will still be altered to the old scheme. But my distance is 15 meters.