Dishwasher selection (2)

ValeriyVP I only use Japanese gel, it can even wash aluminum dishes, it does not darken.

[Gypsy]

Wooden dishes, this, most likely about bowls, cups, I once had such - so they did not tolerate even a short-term pouring of water into them. And wooden spoons, my scapulae without problems.
Gypsy! Cookware with strong dried food debris sometimes really washed slightly worse, or requires a long "wash" and a higher temperature. For myself, I took it as a rule: immediately clean the dishes from large particles of food (I sweep away with a dish brush or use napkins, for example, with my helpers) or, collecting the dishes, soak them or lightly fill them with cold water. And then I use the "quick" wash and the "partial" load.
Kitty! Tablets for a typewriter are different, some of them I absolutely did not like. In the end, I settled on Calgonit, in some countries it goes under the name Finish. Starting from 3in1 - great pills! I have Bosch, the largest size

After the 1st wash in the dishwasher, my cutting board is split

tanya1962, get plastic cutting boards: I use it with pleasure and wash without problems! ... Wooden they are not for PMM.

mgla I have a lot of plastic boards and they wash well, it was one of the children who shoved a wooden one out of ignorance, and I wrote about this for those who wash wooden dishes in the dishwasher

The instructions for Beko contain items that should not be washed in the PMM:
Steel objects prone to rust.
Cutlery with wooden or horn handles.
Cutlery with mother-of-pearl or porcelain handles.
Not heat-resistant plastic items.
Glued dishes or cutlery pieces.
Items made of copper, tin, or aluminum.
Fragile decorative glass and porcelain.
Lead crystal glassware.
Decorative items and handicrafts.
Aluminum and silver are discolored.
Glass and crystal products can lose their luster over time.
Sponges and dish towels.
Note: Do not place objects stained with cigarette ash, candle wax, varnish, paints or chemicals in the PMM.

ValeryVP I use only Japanese gel, it can even wash aluminum dishes, it does not darken.

but from this moment, please, in more detail ...

ValeriyVP is a Charmy Crystal detergent for automatic dishwashers (gel) from LION, but in general, type Japanese household chemicals on the Internet and you will find a lot of interesting things. I switched to Japanese washing powders for a long time and also used dishwasher powder, but I liked the gel more, and it was already with rinse aid, but I still add the rinse aid and set it to 1.

very grateful! Of course we'll see. Now I know what to look for ...

Good afternoon, who can tell something about PMM AEG F 88030 VIP (F88030) and Bosch SMV 50E10?
Does anyone have such models and your feedback!

[Jeffrey]

Well, actually, Jeffrey recommends taking only the top line from Brands. Bosch has a top ruler T, and your Bosch E ... So this is not an upper ruler ...

Hello, here many were happy with BEKO 6830, but does anyone have 6530 ??? The difference between them in some programs for the description, but in reality? And in general, I've read how many reviews - many praise BEKO. Do yours have any drawbacks?

Although I have 6830, I looked at the description: There are differences in the number of programs, dimensions, drying, etc. But the main thing is that the 6530 is not worse at all. If you are ready to spend money, then buy and enjoy ...

ValeriyVP, thanks for the answer! I would gladly take 6830, but we do not have them in Samara, there are only 6530. And for the price of 10,000 I liked only this model. Am I doing it right?

Please tell me who bought Electrolux in Ukraine, which dishwashers come with a warranty card for 1 or 2 years? Can someone have an ESF66070WR, share your impressions? Thank you

I read the whole topic very carefully, including the first part. For a long time I dreamed of a dishwasher. After prolonged agony of choice, but I live in a small town and we have no choice, I went to the store and just bought the cheapest car that was on sale. I have been using Zanussi 304 for almost 2 months now. The quality of the sink has exceeded my expectations! I use the shortest 30 min program, because I did not find a difference in the quality of washing on a long program. It washes everything well, I don’t rinse the dishes or soak them beforehand, I simply brush off large leftovers of food with a napkin, and wash pots of porridge perfectly. And I also know that scale from broth is poorly washed in pots, so before washing I go once with a sponge in a circle and that's it. At first, I did not set the rigidity correctly, whitish stripes began to form on some cups, now I adjusted everything. The dishes are always dry after washing, with the exception of some types of plastic. Although they write that it does not dry plastic dishes, it turned out that selectively, probably depends on the type of plastic. It seems to me that the car is a little noisy, but I am not worried about this, I just leave the kitchen, leave the dishwasher in splendid isolation.
I will be glad if the info is useful to someone!

Dear forum users, hello!
Now I am studying the PMM "Indesit" and I cannot understand what their "proprietary" drying with air streams consists in: after drying?
If by air flows, then there is a fan? How then does it differ from turbo drying? Why post-drying?
Something I was completely confused.
Maybe someone can explain to me its principle?

People, forgive me, but help ... I'm sitting reading, reading and I just don't understand which model from Bosch to choose, so that everything is AA and 45 cm. And all such wow that takes your breath away.

People, forgive me, but help ... I'm sitting reading, reading and I just don't understand which model from Bosch to choose, so that everything is AA and 45 cm. And all such wow that takes your breath away.

And you see which of the Bosch models all have A A A,
Of course, there is no comprehensive information about each model, but it should be fine to start your search. And then from the ones you like it is much easier to find what meets your requirements. I was looking for mine so much

what is their "proprietary" drying with air streams: post-drying?

Cars dry about the same - I think you shouldn't bother drying

I want to share my joy and thank the forum for prompting me to make this purchase. I became the owner of the PMM Electrolux ESF 45030. I read the entire thread about choosing the PMM, looked at these units live in the store and somehow decided to buy so quickly. The machine is very quiet, full protection against leaks, it washes perfectly, dries ... and how nice it is to get the dishes out of it - everything shines, the plates are warm, just an indescribable feeling. It was only when I started using it that I realized that I still had to take a full-size one. In the store, the full-size one seemed very large to me, but when using it I feel that I need a bigger basket - often I have to run the machine twice a day. For the first two days, out of habit, I was trying to quickly wash the dishes by hand, and immediately remembered that I now have an assistant. I highly recommend to everyone who has doubts about the purchase of this unit - a very necessary thing! These are all the essentials like an electric kettle, a good oven, a good kitchen. a food processor, a washing machine, and now a dishwasher.

How many times does she change the water? At least two (there is a clear water indicator).After all, if you follow the instructions, then before you start washing the dishes, you need to set the rinsing mode, and then start the washing process.

And what is your PMM? In mine, pre-rinsing does not need to be set separately, it is automatically incorporated in all programs. And the aquasensor is available only on the AUTO program.

Dishwasher SMEG. About preliminary rinsing: if the dishes are heavily soiled, then rinse them. I have a separate program. Washes with cold water for 15 minutes, changes water 2 times. I do this when someone forgets to turn on the car and drives out of town for the weekend. There is a BOSCH in a country house. In the spring, they called the foreman (the pipe cracked in the PMM). he said that SMEG is a premium car. Works very quietly, washes perfectly. Well, of course, the price ... matches ...

Dishwasher SMEG. About preliminary rinsing: if the dishes are heavily soiled, then rinse them. I have a separate program.

I have Kuppersbusch, who washes very well and quietly too. There is a separate rinsing program, but I use it when the dishes will accumulate for a while so that the smell does not arise.

I have Kuppersbusch, who washes very well and quietly too. There is a separate rinsing program, but I use it when the dishes will accumulate for a while so that the smell does not arise.

Good car. I do the same. I have been using PMM for 12 years. I think that the thing in the house is necessary. After all, no one washes the dishes with laundry soap and soda? Therefore, there are special tools only for PMM. We bring funds from Finland. By the way, SES allows you to put PMM in kindergarten groups. Probably not by chance ...

And I have a cheap Zanussi, my cheap Russian-made Rail powder. Washes perfect! The only drawback is that it seems to me that it is noisy, there is nothing to compare.

And I have a cheap Zanussi, my cheap Russian-made Rail powder. Washes perfect! The only drawback is that it seems to me that it is noisy, there is nothing to compare.

But it seems to me that the quality of washing does not really depend on the price. All of them work according to the same principle, only their pribluds are slightly different. And the noise level may depend on what they have in the side panels. If I bought my PMM not 9 years ago, but now, I would not buy such an expensive one. Even the smallest repairs are expensive for her.

I had my first minor repairs in 10 years. Actually. it's as lucky: technology is technology. You can buy an expensive one, and it breaks down in a day. Or vice versa. I chose. so that it works quietly, because it washes at night (night tariff of el. energy is cheaper). It works very quietly. Can not hear. Bosch has a function for washing trays. And in SMEGA it is not. Mine is SIMPLE: I remove the upper basket and put the baking sheet. They wash the same way. very happy with half load and quick wash.

Those who don't have much space in the kitchen, but want everything at once, have appliances in Candy (TRIO and DUO), which includes a dishwasher, an oven (in DUO) + a stove (in TRIO). I have everything separately. But when I ordered a kitchen, I was offered this.

There were pangs of choice, sleepless nights on the Internet and on the forum. I scanned the entire forum three times. As a result, my pick Bosch SMV 65M30 is driving today. I'm very nervous, suddenly it doesn't work, or doesn't wash, or ..... That's it ....

There were pangs of choice, sleepless nights on the Internet and on the forum. I scanned the entire forum three times. As a result, my choice of Bosch SMV 65M30 is driving today. I'm very nervous, suddenly it doesn't work, or doesn't wash, or ..... That's it ....

Do not be afraid! Everything will be fine . We all went through this. Now we are content and happy.

[Vafelka]

Vafelka, don't worry, everything will be. The machine is good, there are no problems with the service, but we will always help you figure it out and make friends with your mafinka!

BOSCH SRS 46 T 42 EU bought, installed, used! I'm happy ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


But I wanted to ask, can I use something stronger to launder the running pans? while we washed only with tablets Finish

Congratulations on your purchase! Enjoy!

Finally, everything was connected, I loaded the dishes and I'm sitting waiting for a miracle.But I'm already happy that someone else is washing the dishes today

Earned !!! It washes everything perfectly, and even in a saucepan from the soup, the rim was perfectly washed! Thanks to everyone who wrote their reviews about the PMM and the means to them.
Now I look like a slave owner: Rumbochka - cleans the room, Panasonechka - bakes bread, Bug - washes dishes, mini-oven - bakes pies, washing machine - washes, and I

Tell me, is this a normal dishwasher? otherwise the price suits me, but suddenly something is wrong in it

Electrolux is a decent company. And in this one, both washing class A, and drying class -A, and energy consumption - A, and water takes only 15 liters. What more could you ask for!

Now I look like a slave owner: Rumbochka - cleans the room, Panasonechka - bakes bread, Bug - washes dishes, mini-oven - bakes pies, washer - washes, and I

Congratulations!!!
I, too, somehow at one moment caught myself thinking - at the same time the washing machine washes, the bread machine bakes bread, the rice cooker - "Chocolate on boiling water", the multicooker stews the chicken, the Bosch combine whips the squirrels for bezeshki, the yogurt maker makes yogurt, the ice cream maker - ice cream, and I I'm lying on the couch I just press the buttons ... Could I have dreamed about it before?

How much does your dishwasher consume?

Thank you!
If I am not mistaken, 0.93 kW / h, and only 10 liters of water. In any case, this is less than with conventional dishwashing.

Respond to the hostess PMM Ardo DW 45 AE, if any! What kind of machine, what are the disadvantages? I choose an inexpensive PMM, because they are asking for a robust Bosch repair. Now I decided to buy an inexpensive one, so as not to mess with repairs later, but to buy a new one.

[jelen]

jelen, and what happened to Bosch? I just wanted to praise mine - no problem for 4 years. And for a friend, Kaiser broke down 4 times in 2 years, now it is standing again.

Respond to the hostess PMM Ardo DW 45 AE, if any! What kind of machine, what are the disadvantages? I choose an inexpensive PMM, because they are asking for a robust Bosch repair. Now I decided to buy an inexpensive one, so as not to mess with repairs later, but to buy a new one.

I had Bompani - and this is the same Ardo, but under a different external name, and inside the boards it says Ardo. Broke down in the same 4 years. The renovation cost immeasurably. The repairman looked at it inside, said that it was very crudely done. I do not advise.

[Rita]

Rita, Thank you! So this option disappears, while in search ... From May 30 to June 20, the hot water will be turned off, the deadlines are running out. Besides Beko, what other good budget cars?

You shouldn't take Indesite, Candy, Ariston ...
I have Whirlpool, so far happy.

Whirlpool are made by the Chinese, but in the Middle Kingdom they do almost everything, why not? After Bosch, who has not worked for five years, I think that I will make a choice between Beko and Whirlpool, Ardo's mistresses did not respond

Whirpool are made by the Chinese, but in the Middle Kingdom they do almost everything, why not? After Bosch, who has not worked for five years, I think that I will make a choice between Beko and Whirlpool, Ardo's mistresses did not respond

When I was buying, which was five years ago, I was told that dishwashers are assembled in Germany. And, it is true, everything inside her is done with dignity. Where does the information come from that it is collected in China? For example, Whirlpool washing machines are made in Slovenia. Are refrigerators made in China?

Now PMM Whirlpool is made in China, I myself looked at Gorbushka, but I will buy it in an internet store. There the consultant advised me to take from the budget Ardo. Whirlpool manufacturer see in Written China.

[jelen]

jelen From budget Zanussi or Veko, the rest is more expensive or much lower quality

Thanks to those who responded! How to buy, then immediately unsubscribe, tomorrow I will call and order.

You shouldn't take Indesite, Candy, Ariston ...
I have Whirlpool, so far happy.

Why not take Ariston?
I have Ariston, at the time of purchase we did not have Veko and these were the most budget models, pah-pah-pah, it has been working every day without interruption for 4 years. I can't even imagine what I would do without her ...

Indesit - well, certainly not worth it, but Ardo - while Italy was (I judge this by the washing machine, my friend bought it - it was happiness ..., well, it still works, I bought it 2 years ago - the most overwhelming washing machine - times, broke a million times or two, now it's worth ... a mute reproach in the garage), it's just, everything that was first done "humanly" - that's it ... Indesit - refrigerator - just doesn't freeze, doesn't really cool, the temperature shows, but in fact, he is lying. (This is the question of Indesite). My "Korean" -samsung- freezes like a beast, even though it's an old man ... Sorry for the digression towards freezing equipment ...
My Magadan Ariston, a dishwasher, washes better than Sochi Boshik, although she broke on my second day. The pump was of some kind with a marriage ... But, after repair, for more than 6 years, it washes and does not buzz. Maybe her fate was like that ... By the way, her programs are shorter than those of Bosch - but it washes very clean .. The water, of course in Magadan, is soft ... My sister had a Candid - broke down - they also decided to change to Bosch ... It seems like Kandinu .. not a firm, or something ... Changed, quarreled ..
They repaired and returned Kandyu from the dacha .. Since with the same size, dishes fit into Kandy, for some reason, more and the quality of washing was better ... Or rather, my sister, the nagger, was happier.