Dishwasher selection (2)

I have a dishwasher next to the stove. For two years nothing happened. But we made an air gap, that is, we did not install it very closely, a gap of about 1 cm between the stove and the dishwasher.

I think nothing will happen, the oven heats up inside, but outside it is not 250g. The PMM machine heats up by itself, which means that all the materials in it transfer heat well. If there was a little gap between them, it would be nice to put a thin sheet of foam plastic, or something else, a thread, preferably heat-resistant.

I have a PMM and an oven (on top of it) are next to the refrigerator.The oven has no thermal insulation, between it and the refrigerator there is a large cutting board (beech), about 1.5 cm thick. The board itself has an air gap of a couple of mm from the wall of the stove. Saves the refrigerator

Hello girls. I look at me like no, no one hears? Who has a Candy car? Or something else for up to 400 ye.?

Probably no one has Kandy. But honestly, Kandy does not inspire me. Maybe Beko is better. And it costs within your 400 USD. e.

I studied this Temko for a long time and chose the PMM - BEKO DSFS 6530. My assistant is coming soon!

The place was determined for her close to the gas stove. Since I often bake sourdough bread, heating the oven to 250 grams, the question arose: will such a neighborhood harm it?

Respond who is so worth PMM? This question did not seem to have been raised earlier.

I strongly advise against putting anything close to a non-built-in stove, especially appliances, and not a cabinet with empty cans. My electric stove (non-construction) is close to kitchen cabinets, I now store only jars and graters in them. The cabinets are heating up awfully !!! If you make an interlayer, then it will be made of really heat-insulating materials (such as Isover stone wool). Otherwise, you risk spoiling the P / M. I understand that the lack of space limits in many ways, but freestanding equipment, and especially the slabs, should be at a distance of at least 5 cm from each other.

and especially the slabs should be at least 5 cm apart.

This is how I now have cabinets from the stove by 5 cm, which is why the question arose.

In the spring we are planning a major overhaul in the kitchen and then we will put everything right, but for now we will temporarily connect it next to the sink. Thanks to everyone who responded!

Hello girls. I look at me like no, no one hears? Who has a Candy car? Or something else for up to 400 ye.?

Hello. I have an Indesit dishwasher. If you are interested in it, then I can write more about it. I have it in constant operation for a year. Her price is affordable.

In the spring we are planning a major overhaul in the kitchen and then we will put everything right, but for now, next to the sink, we will connect it temporarily. Thanks to everyone who responded!

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If repairs are planned, then do not save, but immediately buy an installation, it will be more rational at the exit. I now have a built-in PMM just next to it, but it's still))))

[Chamomile1]

Chamomile1of course share information! After all, not everyone has such a technique yet, and your story may well be useful to someone!

[Antonina 104]

Antonina 104 ! Where did you buy it? I also settled on this dishwasher.

By the way, now Ikea has another seasonal sale and a change of exposition - most of the exhibition samples are sold with a discount of up to 70%, and the equipment is good. So I bought a built-in microwave for myself at the usual price. I'm happy as an elephant for the fifth year already: girl_dance: and a hob for a rented apartment at one time.Built-in PMMs are also often there, and now I'm only for the installation!

[Antonina 104]

Antonina 104 ! Where did you buy it? I also settled on this dishwasher.

For the first time I opened this online store "Contrabass" in Khmelnitsky. There was the lowest price for PMM. The reviews are all good. They immediately called back (it was at 21 o'clock), clarified and sent the next day. Due to the holidays, I will receive it on January 8th. Payment upon receipt, which is also convenient. Zhenya go to their website and see for yourself.

[Chamomile1]

Chamomile1of course share information! After all, not everyone has such a technique yet, and your story may well be useful to someone!

Hello. I have an Indesit dishwasher - Indesit DSG 0517 45 cm I have been using it for a year. When choosing PMM, I was guided by the fact that it is not of Russian production and at a democratic price. PMM freestanding. I bought it when there was an old kitchen with separate cabinets. And now they just put it under the common tabletop for me. I do not notice the inconvenience of using a freestanding PMM. The only thing is that all the control buttons are visible and easy to press. It is not convenient if there are small curious children. My already an adult.
We live together with our son, a schoolboy. But I work from home and, accordingly, I constantly eat at home. And the son too. I love to cook. Therefore, there are a lot of dishes. I'm happy with my PMM. My dishes once a day and almost always full. Usually, after lunch, I make up the accumulated dishes in the PMM and turn on a short rinse program. I like this program because I rinse it and leave it to stand, as it were, soaked dishes until the evening, waiting for the rest of the dirty dishes. Mine is usually on the main program. There is a shortened program, but I do not like how the glass is washed on it. It can be kind of cloudy, poorly rinsed. Honestly, I cannot say this is a constructive flaw in this machine or a marriage. But since I am typing a full machine, I also use the main program. For full download.
There are also minor drawbacks - a large basket for forks, spoons with a non-removable handle (I bought a narrow small basket for storing cutlery and mine in it). And all the holders in the lower basket are static. That is, they do not fold and always stick out. But I have adapted to arrange everything. And my dishes and cans, and everything rises and fits.
Everything else is sheer merits. Washes everything to a mirror finish. Glass shines like crystal. Even old smoky pans are being washed slowly.
All. Has reported. If you have any questions, ask.

For the first time I opened this online store "Contrabass" in Khmelnitsky. There was the lowest price for PMM. The reviews are all good. They called back immediately (it was at 21 o'clock), clarified and sent the next day. Due to the holidays, I will receive it on January 8th. Payment upon receipt, which is also convenient. Zhenya go to their website and see for yourself.

Good. evening. I looked at this cantrabass - there is no choice. You also need to consider the cost of delivery. I didn’t call cantrabass, but at a cheaper price - 135 UAH. to a new mail (dishwasher for 2500 UAH). Here my sister took the refrigerator.

[Dmitry P.]

Dmitry P. but there is no model we have chosen! Before ordering, I decided on the model, and then promoted all the stores and only then made an order. Delivery will be different for everyone due to the distance.

Everyone decides these issues himself, I did not impose on anyone.

[Dmitry P.]

Dmitry P. , looked, but there is no model we have chosen! Before ordering, I decided on the model, and then promoted all the stores and only then made an order. Delivery will be different for everyone due to the distance.

Everyone decides these issues himself, I did not impose on anyone.

You react so sharply. The question is how much did the delivery cost you, if I understood correctly from Kiev to Zaporozhye? Already delivered?

You react so sharply. The question is how much did the delivery cost you, if I understood correctly from Kiev to Zaporozhye? Already delivered?

From Khmelnytsky to Zaporozhye costs 210 UAH. I'll get it the day after tomorrow.

From Khmelnytsky to Zaporozhye costs 210 UAH. I'll get it the day after tomorrow.

Good day. I look forward to the first news. Received, washed (dishes), what are the first impressions? We are waiting for feedback.

I'm impatient too. Dima, come on bye

And I got covered after five years of using PMM Bosch. It's a shame, they didn’t choose the cheapest, and there weren’t any cheap ones then, and that silver color, assembly Germany and all that ... The control apparatus broke down, a new one with approx. 8 t. P. Well, we thought, thought and decided that we'd better buy a new, full-size ... just not Bosch anymore. The Bosch and I are unlucky: after 2 years, the bearing of the washing machine flew, the dishwasher worked for 5 years, well, it’s nafig, I’m no longer ready to overpay that kind of money for a brand. Ariston ordered, it will definitely work for 5 years

[Oksyusha]

Oksyusha The control unit is usually repaired in 2 tons. r or a box of beer, as you agree, look for the master of the electronic engineer-TV operator, it is enough to solder the payment and everything will work.
And with ariston-go you just have not yet encountered

We encountered Ariston: friends bought almost at the same time as us. those somewhere 4-5 years ago, I will not say the model, but the full-size built-in cost 16 tr. (those are quite inexpensive, for comparison, we bought our own, 45 cm separately standing, for 23 tr 5 years ago). They never had any problems, the quality of the sink - no complaints, no breakdowns - none. It so happened that the horror I have with the Bosch German, by the way, assembly ...
And regarding the repair of Bosch, none of the repair shops, except for the authorized center, did not even agree to come to see ... the branded center called its price about 8 tr + time for delivery of the block. At the same time, we asked the master which models break more, which ones break less, to which he replied: everything is the same, well, maybe only Miele ... The prices for Miele are such that I can buy three Aristons in sequence, one to replace the other, and then the master he also added that, perhaps, Miele has fewer breakdowns, because in principle there are fewer of them ...

The master will help you, as I said, only you need to look for a private trader. And with Ariston, friends were just lucky. The wooden gun also shoots once

For these same friends - this is the second Ariston, the previous one was detached, he was 100 years old, he inherited it, and passed on to the next owners, where he works successfully to this day, I did not cite him as an example right away, because, they say that ALL technology used to be not what it is today
And about "our" model, which they ordered, the reviews are generally positive, and in general, according to Ariston, there seems to be satisfied here too ... What exactly is Ariston so bad about? And why is Bosch so good? Using Bosch for the last 5 years, I was disappointed in the company specifically, the argument of a reliable company did not justify itself, when three types of equipment with the same brand break down, in my opinion, too prematurely, and their repair costs not only a pretty penny, but several. thousands, comparable to the cost of a new unit, then this personally makes me wonder whether it is worth it ...
We don't have TV masters and similar acquaintances, and for some reason I doubt that he, such a master, will disassemble the unit and understand what needs to be soldered there so that the dishwasher again begins to open the compartment with the detergent (we have such a problem, for us significant, since we wash the dishes at night, on a delay, the quality of washing with a closed valve decreases significantly).

Your right to believe or not, I advise just repairing myself and with what I come across all the time.

sazalexter correctly advised, the electronics engineer must figure it out, he doesn't care about TV or PMM, but you need to look for them, not everyone wants to mess around. In such cases, we go to the radio bazaar there handymen ...

Thanks for the advice.
I explained above that my attitude to the Bosch brand is not due to faith or disbelief in someone's words (unfortunately), but to my own experience.Because people close to me did not express any complaints about Ariston and I watched the unit with my own eyes and decided to try it. At least, this PMM is almost 2 times cheaper than the most modest Bosch and will be under warranty for some time. Forgive me, but I will not look for an electronics master (I’m somehow lazy, I’m never ready to invite random people found on the market home, no offense), I ordered a new PMM.

She can put up for sale an old broken PMM for a penny here at a flea market and there will be people who could not afford a PMM, but they can find an electronics engineer ... I used to live in the same city - take it unambiguously, my best friend will solder what he wants ..) ))

Well, yes, of course, we will put the old one on Avito and on similar local sites.

Zhenya, Antonina, where are you? there are a lot of people but you are not, I am worried

Your right to believe or not, I advise just repairing myself and with what I come across all the time.

Good day. Maybe you can help. Looked at PMM Candy CDP 4609. Or such options - Ardo DWF 09 E4W, Whirlpool ADP 550 WH. What do you think?

Zhenya is glad to see you. I'm worried about Antonina, though I don't want to seem annoying. I myself come to the fact that it is necessary to prepare the drain (put a siphon with the connection of machines), and the bay (bring the tap to an accessible place). Something like that.

Zhenya is glad to see you. I'm worried about Antonina, though I don't want to seem annoying. I myself come to the fact that it is necessary to prepare the drain (put a siphon with the connection of machines), and the bay (bring the tap to an accessible place). Something like that.

EVERYTHING IS CORRECT! We'll do everything on the weekend. I myself can't wait for this to happen, there is little from me that depends!

But I waited longer!

My dream is to buy a PPM.

I also want a PPM, or rather a PPM (Peak Program Meter) - a peak level meter, a tool for indicating the level of a sound signal. And PPM is also an abbreviated name for a perpetual motion machine (lat. Perpetuum Mobile) Sorry to quote you, this is a frequent typo, just a good mood today. I presented an ad: "I will buy a perpetual motion machine, preferably no more than 15 thousand."

Good day. Maybe you can help. Looked at PMM Candy CDP 4609. Or such options - Ardo DWF 09 E4W, Whirlpool ADP 550 WH. What do you think?

I can say about Whirlpool. True, I had a different model, but the principle by which they are programmed to be scrapped is the same. They have the wires that go to the door to the control panel, sheathed in a plastic casing. This casing crumbles from constant opening and closing, and the wires begin to rub against the sharp metal parts of the door ... Everything ends with a short circuit, as a result of which the control panel board flies. As a result, the service life is 5 years. The washing machine was excellent, almost silent, the baskets were cool, but alas.

My dream is to buy a PPM. I read the topic and already figure out where to put it. There is no room at all. And so you want ...

So your desire is not so great.
Usually those who are in great distress always find this place.
At our exit went a wardrobe-cabinet. My kitchen is 5.8 sq. m, and there is also a washing machine in it, there was nowhere to put it either.

Tell me who ordered cars on the Internet and with delivery by a transport company, for example, like Nova Poshta. How did you check the performance of the machine upon delivery or take it home like this, and then how lucky you are.
My friends seem to have already made their choice, but the order will have to be done via the Internet, because we don't have such machines in our city and no one agreed to bring them to order.
Py. Sy. Antonika, congratulations on your assistant. I envy you with white envy, this will not shine for me soon

The machine can only be checked in operation. The display is checked simply by plugging it into a power outlet without connecting to water, without loading with salt and rinse aid. It should show no water, no salt and no rinse aid. A car will be delivered to you. you open it and find that it is wet inside.This is normal, it was tested at the factory for tightness and performance. But in the salt compartment the salt itself (there the water should not taste salty) should not be, otherwise someone has already used it and returned it.

[Creamy,]

Creamy, Thank you. I'll tell my friends to taste the water from the salt compartment. And they have a typewriter without a display, the rest they will not check. Although, they may still choose another model with a display.

Hello! There is no display, but at the end of the door the indication points for the lack of water, salt and rinse aid should be lit!

... I am also actively looking for a beautiful picture on the face of a built-in dishwasher, like those for refrigerators. Can someone throw in a design idea?

I have a typewriter next to the refrigerator with butterflies glued on it. We sit with our daughters looking and almost unanimously say that a cat needs to be bought and glued on a typewriter so that it seems to catch butterflies.

[Antonina]

Antonina, a few pages earlier, Yulia V wrote that in her typewriter in the lower compartment some pins do not fold, so she cannot push many cans there at once. And in ours there are such pins and can you fold them?

[Antonina]

Antonina, a few pages earlier, Yulia V wrote that in her typewriter in the lower compartment some pins do not fold, so she cannot push many cans there at once. And in ours there are such pins and can you fold them?

Yes, there are pins that fold easily if desired. Now I'm sitting, talking, and she washes !!!!!

And my first misunderstanding. Powder has not spilled out of the dispenser. Good people, who knows why this can be, help!

I have a typewriter next to the refrigerator with butterflies glued on it. We sit with our daughters looking and almost unanimously say that a cat needs to be bought and glued on a typewriter so that it seems to catch butterflies.

Oh, exactly !!! Draw Simon's cat! Perfect fit. (who has not seen cartoons / comics - we urgently type in the search engine "Simon's Cat" or Simon's Cat, and rzhach is guaranteed for half an hour)

And my first misunderstanding. Powder has not spilled out of the dispenser. Good people, who knows why this can be, help!

There is an assumption ... but no more, that a special mode was used ... well, like in a washing machine: a powder compartment for the prewash and for the main one. On my 1st program, the compartment did not open either - there is washing without powder. And there are intensive modes, where powder or tablets will be taken from two compartments. What is your dishwasher model?

And my first misunderstanding. Powder has not spilled out of the dispenser. Good people, who knows why this can be, help!

It happened to me once, the dishes propped up this dispenser lid and it could not open.

Flaksia, I have some other nonsense: the dispenser is open, and part of the powder in it is still wet ...

Maybe something interfered with the movement of the rocker arm and therefore the powder was not washed well.

Julia S Sent: Today at 21:42
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Maybe something interfered with the movement of the rocker arm and therefore the powder was not washed well.

Julia V, thank you. Should the powder be washed off with a jet from the rocker? Next time I will follow them (rocker arms)