Choosing a dishwasher

Well, then there is still an option that in the store / warehouse instead of Finish they poured some nasty stuff. This is also possible. After all, Finish's packaging, unlike washing powder (the same Persil), is not sealed. You can open it and pour it out. Although, probably, it will already be complete chaos. But I want to believe that this is not so, otherwise

, so do you have Calgonite or Finish (as in the first or second photo)?

I have exactly the same detergent, the second in the pictures. Washes well. I just washed, unloaded, everything

[same]

Finish and calgonit it same... Rebranding, type. In order not to lose customers, they, like smart and strategic people, carried out the process smoothly.

First, they added "finish" to the familiar name, so that the love would get used to it and then did not think what kind of finish it was. Now the next step - the new name is large, and the old one is small, for those who have not yet remembered. Then, apparently, the old will be removed completely.

And I do not know what you have there for the raids from him, but I repeat that it is normal and without problems of soap and "white" and "yellow". The last small pack of "white" I also have FINISH-calgonite, soap without the slightest problem. If you are all so worried about codes - 590 (Poland).

And I do not know what you have there for the raids from him, but I repeat that it is normal and without problems of soap and "white" and "yellow". The last small pack of "white" I also have FINISH-calgonite, soap without the slightest problem. If you are all so worried about codes - 590 (Poland).

I didn't think of anything about the raid, unfortunately it is.

And my dishwasher is Bosch, and I have been using it for several years now, and I washed it on a long program.

[Luysia]

I have had it since December, only in one place it hardened, but it was so. He calmly scrapes with a spoon. The barcode starts with 433.

I went and looked at the barcode - 404 - where are the legs growing from? In general, the saleswoman told me that it goes like a phosphate-free powder, and I bought it at home, I read the composition, but it is somehow superficially indicated there, no exact data, what and how much. Only the pier contains: detergents, oxygen-based cleaning agents, biological enzymes, citric acid-based fragrance. Truncate!
Luysia , and you try the lid on the salt tank, is it closed properly? Are the dishes not salty?
I have had something similar once. The dishes were all white as you write. It turned out to have closed the lid badly

Hello everyone!
Soon I will have the opportunity to try Domol in action.
It turns out that we recently opened a DC or Watsons in the very center of the city on K. Marksa 40 (the area between Artyom and Barrikadnaya) (there is also the address of Glinka 17 in their catalog, but I was not there)!

And how much Domola needs to fall asleep? on the package it is written from 18g, in Russian from 20g. What about reality?

Calgonite leaves me 18g.

for my desktop for 6 sets I pour into the compartment by 1/3, that is, until the first dash

And how much Domola needs to fall asleep? on the package it is written from 18g, in Russian from 20g. What about reality?
Calgonite leaves me 18g.

The dosage is exactly the same.

[Washes no worse and no better]

The dosage is exactly the same.

Thank you!
For the first time, just in case, I took 20g Domol. And then I reduced the dosage to 18g.

Finally, I also tried it in the Domol case.
Began acquaintance with a small little thing, it would seem, but not pleasant.
The new habit of weighing everything has let down ...
Here's what happened:




Inexplicably suddenly it turned out that the vaunted German quality is no different vaunted German precision, or at least Ukrainian entrepreneurship, when the packaging indicates that the weight can be either + 3% or minus 3% (and, of course, always minus).
The first disappointment, in general.
After several washing cycles with Domol, I can say that I did not see a special quality of washing in comparison with Finish-Kalgonit (both in white packaging and in yellow packaging). For example, my favorite Tefal lid, just as it was not washed from fat with Finish-calgonite, so it was not washed with Domol at different positions in the PMM. Washes no worse and no better (in terms of use my PMM Maybe for another PMM the result will be different).
As long as this product is cheaper than Finish (even though it is underweight in the package) and washes like Finish, I will use it.

By the way, tried to wash in different sequence several times: Domolom after Finish-Kalgonit and vice versa, and no white deposits on the dishes and inside the PMM did not find !!!

And no one here claimed that Domol washes better than Finish. There is less chemical stench after it - yes ...

And the Tefal lid must be washed with the Finish, as the most poisonous one, at 70 C. I specially keep this muck in my house for ripping off the stuck fat from the pans and hood filters in 70 C mode.

And no one here claimed that Domol washes better than Finish.

Of course of course.

How come nobody claimed ???
And how did I know what a wonderful Domol ???
Well it probably wasn't here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27350.450.

I tried this tool in my PMM and write my impressions about it.
I also want to buy Somat powder and try it in action.

And when, for example, a situation occurs when the stock of the detergent you like runs out, and at this moment suddenly will not be in the store, then you can search for the less liked, etc.
And suddenly Domol will rise in price, and, for example, significantly, what is the point of overpaying if, for example, Somat / Finish / ... cleans the dishes in the same way, but at a price it will be more economical?
Always have a backup. But that's my opinion.

Now almost all imported powders for PMM are washed in approximately the same way. Another thing is that they stink differently. Therefore, there is something more dear to someone: as for me, if Domol becomes a little more expensive than Finish, I will still sit on Domol, because in my opinion the aroma after Finish is not very compatible with food utensils ...

[I absolutely agree with you!]

Now almost all imported powders for PMM are washed in approximately the same way. Another thing is that they stink differently.

I absolutely agree with you!
They each have their own "aroma"! I can't say that I like their fragrances because I don't like any of them, but alas, there is no choice ...
But this is if we talk about the aromas of the funds (you have to breathe this muck when you fall asleep in the PMM, although you can buy a respirator for these purposes)

And after washing my PMM does not smell of any of them! No aroma: no Domola, no Finish ... Maybe this is not normal?

And what does your PMM retain the aroma of the detergent ???

And what does your PMM retain the aroma of the detergent ???

I don't smell of anything ...

I also tried different products .. The dishes do not smell ..

And I like such a thing as an odor absorber for PMM, with lemon and lime, I only take its aroma then to the whole kitchen after washing the dishes

And after washing my PMM does not smell of any of them! No aroma: no Domola, no Finish ... Maybe this is not normal?

And what does your PMM retain the aroma of the detergent ???

The dishes themselves may not smell afterwards (the remainder of the odor trail directly depends on the type of dishes themselves: metal, glass, ceramics, plastic, etc.), but when you open the PMM immediately after washing, then this is where the whole aroma manifests itself ...

And I like such a thing as an odor absorber for PMM, with lemon and lime, I only take its aroma then to the whole kitchen after washing the dishes

As for me, it is a good thing in terms of idea, but in execution: whose product I have tried, it has a very pungent smell, especially if you "wash" plastic dishes, then the smell is so eaten that it is impossible to eat from it ...

And I like such a thing as an odor absorber for PMM, with lemon and lime, I only take its aroma then to the whole kitchen after washing the dishes

And I don't like chemical smells. So there is no smell in the PM, why is there something to "absorb"? For the same reason, I do not use any rinse aid for CM.

but when you open the PMM immediately after washing, then this is where the whole aroma appears ...

When I open the PMM door, steam comes out from there (the last rinse at 70C), but it does not smell like detergents.
I even poured rinse aid specially for several sinks in order to hear the aroma of at least some product, but, alas, nothing

And I don't like chemical smells. So there is no smell in the PM, why is there something to "absorb"? For the same reason, I do not use any rinse aid for CM.

Likewise!

I also tried different products .. The dishes do not smell ..

I don't smell of anything ...

So I looked for how much Domol costs outside DC or Watson

🔗 :

1.8 kg costs 2.99 € (35 UAH)
I bought in Watson for 77 with a penny UAH, i.e. the price in Germany is almost two times lower

It's a shame, we do not live in Europe, and prices are steeper than European ones

And there is also an interesting brand domal
🔗... Very similar to domol.

So I looked how much Domol costs outside DC or Watson
It's a shame, we do not live in Europe, and prices are steeper than European ones

Why be offended? You need to do this at home, then it will be cheaper. Yeah don't do shit like Russian Slavic Finish, and bow down to Domol or some other nemchure or Japanese, and rivet under their most severe supervision, both for yourself and for export. And about our domestic nanotechnology, I will modestly keep silent, okay? They are not for the common people, but for the defense industry and space!

[AlisaS]

Of course of course.

How come nobody claimed ???
And how did I know what a wonderful Domol ???
Well it probably wasn't here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27350.450.

AlisaS, I wrote about my feelings when washing Domol in comparison with SOMAT, and not Calgonite-finish ... If we compare Domol with Calgonite, then with the same quality of washing, Domol is very pleased with the price

And I like such a thing as an odor absorber for PMM, with lemon and lime, I only take its aroma then to the whole kitchen after washing the dishes

I, too, first grabbed him, my allergic husband, went on strike at all, so he smells on the dishes and that's it, especially the plastic container - he carries lunch from home to work, I had to give up flavorings
And so, my Finish, everyone is calm, no one smells like anything, dishwasher-Beko

[AlisaS]

AlisaS, I wrote about my feelings when washing with Domol in comparison with SOMAT, and not Calgonite-finish ...

Well, if you say that Domol is better than Somat, then maybe I won't buy it for experimental research.

If we compare Domol with Calgonite, then with the same quality of washing, Domol is very pleased with the price

Well, who can argue which is cheaper? Cheaper, of course.
Domol 1kg (without any discounts in Watson) costs 43 UAH,
Finish 1kg costs 56-58 UAH (there are shops in which for 60 UAH, of course).
What I, in general, talked about before.

As long as this product is cheaper than Finish (even though it is underweight in the package) and washes like Finish, I will use it.

[dopleta]

And about plastic dishes ...
After reading the similar information that provided dopleta https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=113038.0,
I try not to use plastic dishes. Of course, you can't do without it, but ... I gradually get rid of everything that is harmful. And do not wash such dishes in the PMM.
My plastic glasses from the blender (of course I won't get rid of them), but they do not absorb the aroma of the detergent.

I don’t know, my dishes do not smell like chemicals, but still, after lime and lemon, it’s somehow more pleasant to open PMM

And I was asked to tie with this lime-lemon, to put it mildly. I did not like it, categorically !!!! It seemed that the dishes smelled ... I somehow didn't care, but my daughter and husband were fighting ...

I don’t know, my dishes do not smell like chemicals, but still, after lime and lemon it’s somehow more pleasant to open PMM

As a rule, PMM air fresheners are designed on average for 60 wash cycles. For about the first half of the life of a freshener, any of its scent carries a pronounced pungent unnatural chemical odor, which is especially strong in plastic dishes. And after about 30 cycles, when the intensity of the fragrance release drops by half or more, the smell is no longer so pungent, and somewhere even pleasant. But, all the same, no one will run idle PMM to corrode this freshener to an acceptable level, or soak it in water. We tried Finish freshener once, and Domol once. In general, I did not like it, that is, they gave up these chemicals. And so that the PMM does not curl up, we often clean the bottom and the drain channel, and keep the door almost always slightly open.

I had the opportunity to compare the quality of washing with Sodasan (declared as environmentally friendly 🔗) and the more familiar Calgonite (Finish). After using Calgonite, the dishes turned out to be much cleaner: no residues on the plates, etc.
Who has what opinions: is it worth pursuing the environmental friendliness of the product (at a price 3-4 times more expensive) or is it still worth switching to a more economical option?

I had the opportunity to compare the quality of washing with Sodasan and the more familiar Calgonite (Finish). After using Calgonite, the dishes turned out to be much cleaner: no residues on the plates, etc.
Who has what opinions: is it worth pursuing the environmental friendliness of the product (at a price 3-4 times more expensive) or is it still worth switching to a more economical option?

Sodasan, of course, if you have problems with intolerance to standard PMM chemicals. Of course, only Finish, if nothing else at all ...

And so that the PMM does not curl up, we often clean the bottom and the drain channel, and keep the door almost always slightly open.

how?

how?

Believe it or not - using a silicone grip or a mitt inserted between the body and the front panel of the PMM.

[Puffa]

I had the opportunity to compare the quality of washing with Sodasan and the more familiar Calgonite (Finish). After using Calgonite, the dishes turned out to be much cleaner: no residues on the plates, etc.
Who has what opinions: is it worth pursuing the environmental friendliness of the product (at a price 3-4 times more expensive) or is it still worth switching to a more economical option?

Puffa, I used Crystal-fix, also declared as phosphate-free. The result was similar to yours. The plates seem to be like normal soap, but the spoons / forks stopped shining after a month, some kind of plaque appeared. couldn't wait for this pack to wash out. I bought Domol again, again everything starts to shine, the devices are quietly washed
I don't want to experiment anymore.

girls, ordered a dishwasher via the Internet, now in anticipation of this happiness,
but I will have a bunch of questions. Girls, PLEASE tell me who has the Zepter dishes, can they be washed there, and if so, which ones do you use? And yet ... can the pan from the Panasonic multicooker be washed?

I am a pan from mv Panasonic soap, inside everything is ok, nothing scratched or crawled, but outside ... it's aluminum, it went with some creepy stains and became rough, like emery ... it doesn't affect the functionality, but looks ugly .. so better with handles if you want to keep the aesthetics

I don't have a zepter

Girls, PLEASE tell me who has the Zepter dishes, can they be washed there, and if so, which ones do you use?

My zepter is already 6 years old (how long I own PMM, and I have had the dishes for 15 years). Everything is fine, BUT thermostats from the lids must be screwed off before washing necessarily... A relative's plastic parts also became whitish under the handles, but I haven't, so it's hard to say what the matter is. And also for the best result (so that the pots are as good as new and shiny at the exit), I rub them with a Zepter for stainless steel before washing - I apply it over the entire surface outside and inside. Without such pre-treatment, protein stains and streaks remained inside, and now everything is flawless. Somewhere in 1-2 months, the brand on the bottom of pots and pans was washed to a new state. Before that, the letters inside were black and it was too dreary to wash them by hand.
Good luck in mastering the new assistant

BUT thermostats from the covers must be screwed off before washing

I didn't know, but they screw up easily?

I didn't know, but they screw up easily?

Well, if they haven't screwed together for several years at all, then maybe for the first time and not very much, but it's quite easy, they are screwed onto an ordinary screw pin. My aforementioned relative ditched them in a couple of months of washing in the PMM. Their Zepter consultants do not even recommend wetting them during a regular wash (my mother worked there for some time when we bought these dishes).

k.alena. Thank you very much for responding so quickly. What product do you use when washing in the dishwasher? I was just talking to a friend on the phone, she has the same dishes, but she doesn't have a dishwasher. So she told me that in no case was it washed in the dishwasher, because now all the means are strong and the dishes will start to darken. And you directly encouraged me, otherwise I was upset. I mostly bought machines because of these dishes. Because the dishes are heavy, and after the fracture my hand was poorly developed and it is difficult for me to wash it.

I used to use Calgonite (now it's called Finish), then I switched to Domol (the washing result is the same, the price is 2 times lower). But it seems to be not for sale in Russia. I take all the products separately (powder, salt, rinse aid), I don't like the tablets. This forum has already been discussed a thousand times.

I was just talking to a friend on the phone, she has the same dishes, but she doesn't have a dishwasher. So she told me that in no case was it washed in the dishwasher, because now all the means are strong and the dishes will start to darken.

Let's go to the relevant topic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27366.new#new

Such a powder is sold in Russia
I think this is an analogue of Domol. When I just bought a dishwasher, I liked it very much.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha,
What are you using now? something I have never seen such a powder

Antonovka has been using Japanese gel like this for 2 years already, though he used to have a different etiquette:
This gel can be used to wash aluminum, I tried it on dry slag and did not darken.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha,
Oh, what - I have not seen either, I will watch :)

And how many sinks it suffices, at least approximately?

Antonovka, now in many large shopping centers there are departments of Japanese household chemicals, look there. I buy in the RIO shopping center, there is also in Karusel on Kolomenskaya.

And here I crawled onto yplon, and not only with the PMM - I took some kind of cleaner and a universal floor sink into the bath.

It just so happened once that there was no more nifig in the platypus, and it was necessary to take something. First I tried the rinse aid - it turned out to be good, then I took their own powder. Satisfied, in principle. Not worse than the finish calgonite and the cheap sanit. In the end, the sanit did not like the fact that it still cakes at the end of storage due to the fact that it is not granules, but powder.

Girls and boys now have acquired a miracle technique. And how everyone had a number of questions.
Now I use Finish tablets. (Smart people first read the forum, and then buy detergents, and I, on the contrary) I live in a village. So I don't know when I'll get the powder.And the question is, I washed the dishes on a short program and the tablet did not completely dissolve. And the dishes were slippery. How much powder or tablet is needed, if at all, for a short program.
I bought a car through an online store. How to wash large baking sheets, I realized that I need to remove the upper basket. And insert something instead of attaching the rocker arm. But I don't have anything else in the kit.

How much powder or tablet is needed, if at all, for a short program.

Isn't it easier to wash at a long time?

And insert something instead of attaching the rocker arm. But I don't have anything else in the kit.

A nozzle for washing trays is included in the set for expensive Bosch-Siemens models. If there is a mount for such a nozzle, then it can be ordered from the service, but the price is inadequate - a lot of UAH for a piece of plastic.
Trays can be washed without this attachment ...

And here I crawled onto yplon, and not only with the PMM - I took some kind of cleaner and a universal floor sink into the bath.

Yplon is a fine powder, better than many. Washes super clean, I am also very satisfied!

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, today, lo and behold, I also saw Japanese chemistry in our supply. But the price is $ 22.5. Please tell me about the consumption, how can you compare the consumption of the gel shown by you and, for example, the same Domol? And the salesman claimed that with him neither salt nor rinse aid was needed. Is it so? I probably won't dare to sprinkle salt, but you can not pour the rinse aid. Moreover, its excess does not improve the washing quality.