Choosing a dishwasher

Well, yes, if our ecology is bad, let's deliberately still use all the most harmful. So after all, there is chemistry all around .... By the way, household chemicals are very easy to poison.

The skin reaction may be to lemon juice, but for some reason I had to use dishwashing detergents. I drew my own conclusions, I'm afraid to imagine what then in our stomachs. But it is understandable why children at the age of 7 have gastritis and other joys, which they should not even hear about.

Ecover washes everything perfectly for me, although I have tried other eco-brands before, and they left a white coating on the dishes. I use salt for PMM, Ecover tablets / powder and table vinegar instead of a rinse aid.
I do not impose on anyone. But all the same, if someone after my posts thinks, it will be already good.

with this approach, it is just right to move to the taiga in a dugout, without electricity, gas, etc., to catch hares and fry them at the stake

At least be more careful about the choice of means of daily use and read labels on products. There is no need to rush to extremes, if I wanted to move to the taiga, I would have done it already.

Girls help open the salt compartment lid !! Pmm bosh, there were always all the rules, but right now the indicator light up, I don't wick it back and forth !!! I asked my husband - either grit does not work, or I will rip it out right now! Who was it like that? The chtoli thread came off ...?

but do not press down, by chance? I don’t even remember, but it’s kind of like pressing down and scrolling a little, like in children's syrups.

[Lika2882]

Lika2882,
Delait,
I always had a tightly unscrewed lid in the salt compartment in Boch. I'll try to press it down next time.

By the way, can you pour boiling water on it? Or write or call the Bosch service?

Vishenka999,

Ecover washes everything perfectly for me, although I have tried other eco-brands before, and they left a white coating on the dishes. I use salt for PMM, Ecover tablets / powder and table vinegar instead of a rinse aid.

And I didn't like Ecover. I've only tried their pills. How to use vinegar in PMM for rinsing?

Right now, I'll try to wash it down. And unscrew it as standard? Counter-clockwise? There are just clockwise arrows ... It looks like I just twirled it instead of opening it ... And my husband added a control one))

IMHO all these finishes and somata are solid chemistry. Mine is only ecover and frosh. Now the dollar exchange rate is a little expensive, of course, but your health and your family's are more expensive.

And these are natural?
Can you compare the composition of ecover with somat?
Does it make sense to overpay?

Ecover composition: sodium citrate; sodium percarbonate; sodium carbonate; disilicate disodium; sodium bicarbonate; sodium polyaspartate; ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA); water; isooctyl glucoside; D-glucitol; rapeseed oil; natural flavor; glycerol; amylase; subtilisin; limonene; sodium gluconate.
Solid organic

Advertising produces results.

I caught it right after washing, and until it got cold I unscrewed it ... Everything was 'sugared' there, and a lump that had stuck together floated ... I have a feeling that the last time I poured into it was not salt but powder ...

[Lika2882]

Lika2882if there are any doubts, I would do this: I would have scooped up all the water from there, poured it fresh, then scooped everything out again. And then I would have poured salt. What if there is something wrong with the powder? The machine seems to work - but washes badly and the settings do not help.

Quote: Kara on Feb 03. 2015, 09:16
Ecover composition: sodium citrate; sodium percarbonate; sodium carbonate; disilicate disodium; sodium bicarbonate; sodium polyaspartate; ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA); water; isooctyl glucoside; D-glucitol; rapeseed oil; natural flavor; glycerol; amylase; subtilisin; limonene; sodium gluconate.
Solid organic

Advertising produces results.

Well, I have not seen Ecover's advertisement yet, but Finish advertisement is right and left.
At least my dishes do not smell like washing powder after washing.

How to use vinegar in PMM for rinsing?

Pour vinegar into the compartment instead of the rinse aid.

Well, I have not seen Ecover's advertisement yet, but Finish advertisement is right and left.

There is their goose on TV and on the net.

[Lika2882]

Lika2882,
It's good that they unscrewed! Indeed, something else could have been poured instead of salt. Do like Taia, wrote.
In my Boch, the lid is also tightly unscrewed.

Today in 5-ke I bought pills for PMM, released under the brand "e". RUB 200 for 30 pcs.

[Taia]

Taia, eh ... Good advice !! Thank you! It’s a pity that I saw right now, the Internet was bursting ((my husband was already falling asleep ... But there was still a stuck together piece, I caught it with improvised means, so it seems like there should not be any powder, only bad water remained ...

And the girls also wanted to say thank you for the idea of ​​uploading pictures of loading dishes !!! Now I do not wish that I took a narrow typewriter, and not a full-size one, because it turns out that it fits soooo much that our family doesn't need any more !!

[Lika2882]

Lika2882, could not buy quality salt. My sister bought salt tablets once. there was no more, but she urgently needed. So it did not dissolve in the compartment, but was compressed. And the machine did not wash too well. She called the master, she herself did not guess about the salt. Well, it seems, there is salt and lies in the compartment. The master opened everything, cleaned it out and ordered this salt to be thrown out. It was bad, fake.

I bought such pills at Magnit Cosmetics, there was a day of the action "20% discount on everything" and besides, in the box with them there was a form of heat-resistant Pyrex glass as a gift, they cost 399 r without a discount ... but one form costs so much, a very advantageous offer , and even a discount
They are phosphate-free, with lemon extract, in a soluble shell, they wash perfectly

[Chamomile1]

Chamomile1, by the way, yes! There was exactly the compressed lump! I poked it with a fork, broke several pieces and picked it out with a spoon and tongs !! Maybe this salt was really so ... that pack is no longer there, then I threw it away.

[katko]

katko,
I bought Sun, I liked them. Congratulations on your great purchase!

Oh, I haven't mastered all 109 pages ..
I apologize if the question has already been ..
Has anyone used Tri-Bio ECO products?

A manufacturer like the USA. And like IVF. How do these tools work with PMM?

If you use pills for PMM, which will be more nuclear FINISH or SOMAT?

Both are vigorous.

[Yuganna]

Yuganna, I bought an eco-gel, made in the USA, I did not like it, it does not wash cups from tea plaque and dried food residues, plus the consumption is more than stated. And on the contrary, I liked the pills, made in Denmark

[ega0404]

ega0404,

Same. I bought a Spanish eco-product - nifiga does not wash. I bought Japanese - nifiga does not wash. Fairy pills are our everything))). Washed at once)). I just have a septic tank and I wanted everything to be more environmentally friendly.

[ega0404]

ega0404, did you take eco gel from this particular company? I mean three bio)

Yuganna, I talked about eco products from different companies, I didn't use this.

If you use pills for PMM, which will be more nuclear FINISH or SOMAT?

I took the "thermonuclear" Finish for the grate from the stove, etc.

OK

Today for the first time I tried Ashanovsky powder for PMM, sanit, it seems, is the one that was 100 rubles per 1 kg. Well, it seems to have laundered everything normally. Although the dishes were few and not dirty. For myself, the conclusion: you can use.

Good afternoon to all the girls who live here. I came to you for advice.On the previous pages, they brought up the topic of pink mold in dishwashers. I never thought before that it was possible, but it so happened that this problem came to me. The machine, of course, has been serving faithfully for the eighth year, it was regularly cleaned with special means, but this spring it fell ill with pink mold. Her husband completely (well, if possible, of course) disassembled it, I cleaned it all up with a degreaser and a disinfectant, but in some places there are traces of this "pink miracle". Mainly in hard-to-reach places on small parts such as wheels and where there are minor deposits from hard water. I think after the assembly I can drive it away with some kind of fungus, but I can't find anything like that on the internet. In one forum I just found, maybe this is also here, that you can run a mixture of soda and borax. I don't know what to do directly. We have a big family, PM works almost every day, and sometimes it happens twice a day. Now it has been three days since my swallow is on sick leave and I start to panic. Help save my Cinderella !!!

Mmm ... Thoughts are pure "from the bulldozer." And if you put a fungicide for plants there? All this "powdery mildew" and other rubbish is also mold, that is, a fungus. Some Ridomil-Gold or Skor, launched into the car at low temperatures ... Then in the process, stop and let it stand, and then thoroughly rinse the car on a hot program with caustic soda or soda ash. Mm?
Or just look for indoor fungicides to fight mold and do the same. It may very well be that the active ingredient will be similar.))

and yatut bought a disinfectant for a washing machine ... of Japanese origin ... so what? ...? opened, smelled ... diluted domestos !!!! sold 4 times more expensive, I think you can also dishwasher ..

But someone uses this?
🔗
Rinse aid for dishwashers effectively removes residues of detergents, prevents stains and smudges, is suitable for all types of dishwashers.

Top House Oxyplus powder with active oxygen effectively removes even old dirt, has an antibacterial effect, protects dishwasher parts from scale formation and prolongs its service life.

Dishwasher salt protects dishwasher parts from limescale, softens water, reduces the consumption of detergents, and prolongs the life of the ion exchanger and heating elements.

Set price 690 rubles

[Bijou]

Bijou, thanks for the answer, at least some direction))). But here, as it were, in the dishwasher, fungicide, this is CHEMISTRY, and what kind !!! I know not by hearsay about its dangers and how to experiment in a dishwasher I'm afraid ... I need to try something from medications, although they are chemistry, but "human".
Maybe someone else will remember or advise, but for now I will experiment.

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, at one time, even before the purchase of the PMM, I read about the funds ... all sorts of forums ... it was postponed that almost no one liked kschkstvo .. I did not try it myself

On the question of Ecover: please note that there is not a single ECO certificate on the packaging. So the criticism against him is fair. Eco, apparently, only in name. Real IVF is Sodasan, Klar and others. Although, I think that Ecover is less aggressive than other common chemicals.

By the way, Sun is phosphate-free, based on lemon extract

On the question of Ecover: please note that there is not a single ECO certificate on the packaging.

Ecover products do not have official international environmental certifications. According to company employees, sometimes certification obliges the manufacturer to use synthetic fragrances in their products, because consumers are statistically more likely to be allergic to natural ones. Ecover does not use synthetic fragrances, and therefore sometimes simply cannot be certified. The company encourages consumers to learn to read detergent formulations, because sometimes even certification is not a guarantee that a detergent is right for you. 🔗

Girls, has anyone used any dishwasher capsules? I found these:
🔗

I also want to try the Faerie capsules (I don’t know if they are good?), But I don’t know how to switch to them, because the machine is filled with rinse aid (my powder), wait until it ends? Or if the powder compartment is not filled, the machine understands and does not add rinse aid? In the capsules, everything is already present, I'm afraid there will be a lot of rinse aid from the capsule and from the container

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, and you put the softener to the very minimum, I did this a long time ago.

And will it work a little together with the capsules? That is, to use one time, since the other will not work, right? Do you need to rearrange the values ​​every time?

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, I use Faery capsules + rinse additionally, without it the dishes dries worse.

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, when you use All-in-1 capsules or tablets, you need to press a special button, then the consumption of salt and rinse aid stops, that is, the machine then does not take funds from these compartments.

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, I use Faery capsules + rinse additionally, without it the dishes dry worse.

and why fairies? I just use them too, I think it can change ...

I bought the capsules that I showed in the picture. They are not suitable for a short program, the foam remains, I continue to use the gel.

and why fairies? I just use them too, I think it can change ...

But because there is no choice. My Finish, I don't like it. There are fairies for sale, so I think ..

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, Helen, take a ferry if there is no other, just do not use the short program. I mostly use the short one, it suits me very much.