Choosing a dishwasher

I put it on ECO mode, set the salting to 3, salt to 4. There is no foam, the dishes are dry.
But on the circles on top in the recesses there is a little water left and it is whitish in color. what kind of agent remains on the dishes ...
Does this mean salt still needs to be regulated? Reduce it? Or what?

[Belina]

Belina,
Did you notice this in the recesses of the mugs? Yes, this happens if you put the mug straight. It must be set at an angle so that everything flows from the bottoms. I rinse such residues by hand.

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, and where do you prioritize?
Do you still need salt with this gel?

[kokoshka]

kokoshka, salt is always needed, but I buy it either in a Japanese goods store (there are such departments in large stores), or I order it via the Internet.

Did you notice this in the recesses of the mugs? Yes, this happens if you put the mug straight. It must be set at an angle so that everything flows from the bottoms. I rinse such residues by hand.

that is, it has no effect? I just think that if such unclean water remains, it means that it is on all the dishes. I'm worried about this, I have three children ...

[m0use]

m0use, I live in Lomonosov. We have a different water, from the Varvarosinsky springs, hard. This is the only way to form scale in a kettle.

Well then everything is clear

For a long time I have been using Faerie gel capsules, now only Somat tablets, I liked the result more - the dishes are clean, shiny and without streaks.

Girls, for a long time I can not buy a means for removing fat in the PMM. I used to take Japanese powder, now I can't find any. Share what you wash PMM ???

Last time I took Dr Beckman, did it well)

[Marina]

Marina, but what exactly is it called and where did you get it? Can I refer?

In the tape, in the carousel we sell
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[Marina]

Marina, thanks, I'll look.)

Mistletoe, there is Finishevskaya on Ozone. and after Chuchin's stories I clean with lemon. Believe it or not, I already thought I was going to change the car - I bought it in 2008 in January, she had washed so badly for the last 2 years that I almost cried, Then I poured 100g of lemon on my narrow and load for 3-4 persons (sets, I do not know how they are classified there .. and ... Oh, MIRACLE! my machine washes like new and I saved 20 thousand tubes without buying a new car. Now every time I remember Natuska and say thank you.

[Natalia]

Natalia, the old thing will last a long time, if you do not buy a new one

[mowgli]

mowgli, and did you put the lemon into the powder compartment or just like that into the machine?

[Louise]

Louise, you need to put the program on the longest wash and the highest temperature, then you skip the pre-wash, the machine washes, but do not put the lemon. and when the main one starts, I pour it directly into the machine

that is, let's say the floor of the car?

yes no, put the full program. it is the same as you would clean the washing machine, only it is the dishwasher. turned on the program and it works, and then, when the preliminary wash ends and the main wash begins, open the dishwasher and pour out the lemon and forget about it.

[Natalia]

Natalia, thanks, I'll try with lemon tomorrow.

That, not at all. I also used to buy something from fat, then something else. but she does not wash, for the life of me .... And now my happiness has no chapel! I also want to know if it is possible to wash the coffee machine like this, I used up the last pill, although the matchmaker gave me the packaging again, but it’s interesting to try it or not .. the machine is new, I love coffee .. I will not tolerate its breakdown

In theory, you can ... just know the number to use.

and then-when the pre-wash ends

How long will it take? This must be opened at that moment, otherwise the water will pour into the kitchen. Somehow scary.

How long will it take? This must be opened at that moment, otherwise the water will pour into the kitchen. Somehow scary.

will not pour, this is not a washing machine, it uses 3 liters of water or two, and for the entire wash with rinsing 7 liters

[Albina]

This must be opened at that moment, otherwise the water will pour into the kitchen. Somehow scary.

Albina, have you ever opened the dishwasher during work? There is a blockage, immediately the water stops flowing. And the design of the lid is such that everything flows inside.

[Oksan]

Girls, for a long time I can not buy a means for removing fat in PMM

Oksanand what kind of fat? I have never used special means. Enlighten, maybe I should too. I have been a dishwasher for 12 years. I went and looked inside, it shines like new

Albina, have you ever opened the dishwasher during work?

I thought it was TABOO. I have PMM only 2-3 weeks as

Was cleaning my dishwasher last week. Finish tool. Such a square bottle of liquid. You remove the protective film from the cap, turn it upside down and turn on the program at 65 degrees. Somewhere once every 3 months I clean. Grease accumulates, despite the fact that I wash the filter periodically. My pets don't really bother to wash off the remnants of fried potatoes, meat, etc. from their plates. In general, I like this little thing))))

And I was helped only by the lemon-all dissolved-class!
Omelochka, Oksana, how did you clean it? there is a difference?

I was also taught to clean the PM with citric acid, now I only clean it. It also helps against scale, our water is disgusting, a white bloom forms.

Natasha, I just got home, failed today. I will definitely report back as I wash it.

Oksan, what kind of fat? I have never used special means.

Galya, I don't know, I still have fat. maybe because. that on short programs mine. And the rubber bands are periodically washed by hand, and the filter, and plastic baskets.

So I am suffering with fat, I hate washing the filter, all in the opposite fat, I can not understand why? Mine on ordinary programs (not short), a Bosch machine, she is 10 years old, but I use it as usual for 3-4 years, it used to be idle. My sister also has Bosch, the truth is newer, so she never needs to wash this filter, like a new one, and it washes perfectly. And I tried it with a lemon, but the filter is just as nasty, greasy! I thought maybe it didn't heat the water, no, I checked it was hot. I sin on pills, Finnish, my husband bought a whole lot. Others, perhaps try which ones, I was exhausted with this machine, washes not so hot ...

I think you wash all the time at low temperatures

[ksyusha1997]

ksyusha1997,
Oksana, do you use salt? Maybe the amount of salt is not correct? And of course, try other pills for a month.

I use Pure * Lan every 2-3 months. I buy it at Pyaterochka. My filter once 3-4 weeks, as I remember. Not perfect, of course. Fat is present. I wash with a brush and kitchen detergent (spray).

I should try citric acid too.

[ksyusha1997]

ksyusha1997, try to change the means, I had something similar with Amveevsky powder, when we returned to the Finish tablets after 3 times, the whole PMM glittered like new. Now I don't wash anything additionally, sometimes I rinse the filter. I don’t buy Amway anymore, but otherwise I don’t follow the funds, I buy something for which there are shares, the last time I bought goods in the Lenta, there were 2 tablets at the price of 1 and we snatched 2 packs of 70 tablets (or about 70, I don’t remember exactly) for 800 rubles with a tail. And they also took ribbon tablets for 300 rubles. 60 pcs.

Thank you girls, I will try!

Has anyone used Golden Class?

I will definitely report back as I wash it.

I washed it. Moreover, I fell asleep 80 g at once, and 80 g after draining to the main sink. Well, what can I say.Apparently, my machine (Beko) is not like that. Practically nothing was washed, that is, I touched the walls (I didn't wash it with a specialist for a week) - they were greasy. Soaps on the longest and hottest (70C) program.

Ksyusha, do you wash the inside of the car every week?

Wipe .. yes. ((Now I looked more closely, so even the plastics are dirty. My Somat gel, as I understand it, the powder washes away better. And the machine is in my last breath, it works only at 30C. Now I’ve passed out after washing, so it will stand for three days come yourself.

And the machine is in my last breath, it works only at 30C.

How long did you work?

Years 5.

UzhOs. I went to my wall and felt it: clean (I have been using Somat Gold tablets for the last six months).

IMHO all these finishes and somata are solid chemistry. Mine only with ecover and frosh. Now the dollar exchange rate is a little expensive, of course, but your health and your family's are more expensive.

Everything around us is solid chemistry ... organic or non-organic

Now even the products are 50% inedible. Why should we allow ourselves to be slowly destroyed?

IMHO all these finishes and somata are solid chemistry. Mine only with ecover and frosh. Now the dollar exchange rate is a little expensive, of course, but your health and your family's are more expensive.

Ecover composition: sodium citrate; sodium percarbonate; sodium carbonate; disilicate disodium; sodium bicarbonate; sodium polyaspartate; ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA); water; isooctyl glucoside; D-glucitol; rapeseed oil; natural flavor; glycerol; amylase; subtilisin; limonene; sodium gluconate.

Solid organic

Solid organic

You have not provided a transcript of each component.
And for a complete picture, give the composition of the same finish. Its one "flavor" is worth it. After the PMM cleaner, the smell disappeared for a week.
A little background: when there was no PMM, I occasionally used liquid dish detergent - my hands were covered with eczema from contact. When I realized what the reaction was, I switched to Ecover, and since then I forgot about ointments for skin allergies.

[Vishenka999]

Vishenka999, the point is not in decoding, but in the fact that everything used in everyday life is chemistry in one form or another. Anyone can have a reaction, including a skin one, to anything (not even lemon juice).

Why should we allow ourselves to be slowly destroyed?

There is no need to nightmare the people, with this approach it is just right to move to the taiga in a dugout, without electricity, gas, etc., to catch hares and fry them at the stake.

But seriously, to completely exclude chemistry, at least from the process of washing dishes, you need to wash it with salt, and send PMM to a landfill.

you need to wash it with salt

No, not salt, mustard.

I read numerous reviews, these products, which Eco, wash dishes poorly.

Russian women often complain about the Finish, its strong smell. I bought it, well, there is no strong smell. Probably depends on the manufacturer, or how.