mowgli
Quote: katko

Japanese CuCute Powder
Choosing a dishwasher
This is my second month. Mine 2 times a day or 1 time a day
mowgli
Very conveniently it takes up little space and the plastic cup does not get wet, I ordered it a second time. But I have been using this for a month and a half and there is still half of this package
dandelion
If you use tablets, you don't need salt and rinse aid?
Creamy
Needed.
mowgli
Quote: dandelion

If you use tablets, you don't need salt and rinse aid?
there is no rinse aid, but salt is needed
dandelion
Natasha, where in Stavropol are more pleasant prices for salt, rinse aid and powder? The machine was connected today, but I have nothing at all. Tomorrow early we go to the regional, so I think at the same time and will stock up on everything you need.
mowgli
dandelion, I take everything in the nearest household, and I order Japanese powder at Ozone, go for a penny if there is one nearby. I mostly take there
dandelion
What is the hardness of water in Stavropol?
mowgli
You know, I was told an average of 3.2-3.7 moths. I don't know which one it is, if you have one, then tell me
dandelion
I do not know, I left the factory settings for now. Do you have powder in blue or orange packaging?
mowgli
I have it in a blue package. But I remember choosing because of the smell, because I don't like orange at all. how it smells, but if, for example, there is no blue, but there is orange, then I'll take orange. The fact is that there is no smell at all. I also love the finish-lemon perfume, I never take an orange, but many do not like the perfume
mowgli
yes, the blue packaging is grapefruit, and the orange one is orange
dandelion
mama lemon dishwashing liquid. I bought this (in soft packaging) gel in the Metro. It stood on the shelf along with the rest of the PMM tools. Only at home I saw that it was a spare bag for a bottle with a dispenser and, as I understood it, for a manual wash. Although someone talked about the Japanese company Lion washing. Look, pliz, and help me figure out if it can be used for PMM.
Tanyusha
dandelion, you bought a product for manual washing, for the dishwasher you need such a product Charmy Cristal Gel from LION
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and here is the spare unit
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Charm
After reading you I bought both of these tools ... I will test today.
and the gel is poured in the same place where the powder is poured?
Aenta
Charm, Yes
mowgli
what exactly did you buy ??
Charm
gel and powder from mom lemon
mowgli
so this is for hand wash, not for machine
mowgli
Tanya earlier in the post showed which gel is needed
Charm
soooo .... that you are confusing me. I'd rather show you a photo. such?
Choosing a dishwasher
mowgli
Yeah, such, but it's not MOM, like a dandelion I bought wrong but Charmy cristal gel
dandelion
How much finish powder do you put in a half wash? I pour 20g, but it seemed to me a bit too much .... on the prog "glass" the dishes were slippery, as if not rinsed.
mowgli
I don't have this and I don't use this program. Usually either eco or full
* Anyuta *
Quote: dandelion
How much finish powder do you put in a half wash?
dandelion, always focus on the amount of dishes and the degree of soiling. Sometimes 20 grams can be enough for 2 washes, and sometimes you have to fill up all 20 grams.
dandelion
Anyuta, what is your second PMM? The first one I know was Beko.
* Anyuta *
dandelion, indesite freestanding
verochka4444
And I like to use the Pulsar Bingo 4 in 1 tabs dishwasher tablets, they completely replaced the detergents for me, they break down oil and fat even at low temperatures I ordered from the KlinMall online store
dandelion
So it coincided, or really, after several washes, some protective layer came off the tea mugs and now the plaque from the tea is formed after the very first tea drinking from them ??? Earlier, after 5-6, I only cleaned them. And such a vigorous plaque is formed and it is straightforward to leave (((If so, what kind of mugs do I need to buy? I want it separately, without saucers But there are no markings on these that they are suitable for PMM.
Taia
dandelion Earthenware cups are covered with glaze. In the dishwasher, this layer becomes thinner, the tea leaves are firmly eaten into the faience. For this reason, I threw away all such cups. I bought glass ones, I like them. For several years they have been with me, I was not disappointed, they are washed perfectly, they look new.
There are similar ones as in the picture on the left, there is a luminark.

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Valdemarovna
Girls help and tell me !!!!!! I asked a question on the water utility website about the water hardness in our area! In the dishwasher booklet, the water hardness value is g dH and in mmol / l! They sent the answer - The total hardness of drinking water supplied by the municipal unitary enterprise of Novosibirsk “GORVODOKANAL” in the Pervomaisky district as of August 2014 is 1.85 ° F.! Girls how to translate it, what kind of water I have: roll:
Valdemarovna
On my typewriter, you can set the value of salt and rinse aid from 0 to 7! now everything is at 4! Now I don't know what value to set the settings to! Since I do not know - 1.85 ° F what is the hardness of the water Thank you!
rog6012
Medium hardness -on the car 02 is exposed / on boshik /
Ulitk @
Quote: katko

Japanese CuCute Powder
Choosing a dishwasher
at the moment the best of the tried
there were no finishes with somats nearby)
consumption 4.5 g for medium dirt and 9 g for heavy
the set includes a measuring spoon
Quote: Tanyusha

dandelion, you bought a detergent for manual washing, for a dishwasher you need such a Charmy Cristal Gel from LION
Choosing a dishwasher
and here is the spare unit
Choosing a dishwasher
I also use such KAO powder and Lyon gel. We sell in one store, if they suddenly stop, I will buy on the internet. I can't do it without them.
For different forms from the oven and wire rack from the stove - Finish tablets.
I buy salt and rinse aid more often with CrystalFix.
marisabelka
Natasha, what shop do you sell? We are not far from you, maybe we also have?
mowgli
I have KAO for the fourth month now, I really like it!
Ulitk @
Quote: marisabelka

Natasha, what shop do you sell? We are not far from you, maybe we also have?
Since Soviet times, it was called "Trade Center", and now "Siesta". He, it seems to me, is purely our local.
I can organize the parcel if I really need it. If anything, write to your face.
marisabelka
Thank you, I'll look with us, and so in the enter there is for 350 rubles per pack, and there are delivery terminals, it's just more pleasant to buy in the store
kamishka
And I like sun! )) Both tablets and powder are good for the dishwasher. Sometimes I buy both, I like it, and I see no reason to change my favorite brand to another! Surely every housewife has her own favorite brands of detergents and each has its own advantages. What do you even need from a detergent? For example, for me, so that the fat is washed well, and there are no stains. And you?
I am constantly experimenting and buying different brands of kitchen detergents. Good ones do not always come across, but you can compare and then buy what is better and cheaper. The other day I bought new tablets for the dishwasher from the company sun. I have never used them before. As long as I'm happy, they really, as the manufacturer writes, do an excellent job even with the most persistent fat! But the main thing is that they are free of phosphates, because I am very confused on this topic! ))
marisabelka
Since I bought a dishwasher recently, I try different ones, the finish is not the bottom, the stains on the dishes, the somat is also not very good, claro pills have come, even now I took inexpensive tyron on the metro, too, nothing is better than the finish, ordering to try the amway, I'll see what would be the best
* Anyuta *
I bought myself a somat powder, just like there is a smell from the gel after opening the PMM, but it quickly disappears. I'm happy with the quality of washing ...
Chamomile
Quote: * Annie *
I bought myself a somat powder, just like there is a smell from the gel after opening the PMM, but it quickly disappears. I am still satisfied with the quality of washing.
And I did not like this powder at all. Terrible. I didn’t wash anything and at the same time ruined my plastic containers for microwa and freezing. They became muddy and rough. There is an almost complete package. The only thing that can be said to justify the quality is that it can be uncooked.
Scarecrow
Quote: marisabelka

Since I bought a dishwasher recently, I try different ones, the finish is not the bottom, the stains on the dishes, the somat is also not very good, claro pills have come, even now I took inexpensive tyron on the metro, too, nothing is better than the finish, ordering to try the amway, I'll see what would be the best

I have had dishwashers for 10 years already. I have not tried so many products and I can say one thing - double-check the settings for water hardness or rinse aid supply. I did not see a huge difference in funds (although there is some), divorces and other things, although I have not washed it with anything. Only one Spanish eco-product showed itself badly, but it washes badly. I put it on the hottest sink - and it began to cope. Therefore, do not bother too much, take what you just like. It seems to you that the dishes are bright, shiny - and good)). I am now my faerie and myne libe. Fine. And I buy everything for which there is a discount at the moment))).
Mamik
Girls who use Japanese powders, do you need to add rinse aid? And, if so, which one do you like best? I always use pills, there is no need for rinse aid. But when there are not enough dishes, gel. But the gel of a mug from tea washes out rather poorly, so I want to try the powder.
marisabelka
It's not about the quality of the sink, everything is washed approximately the same, but on the dishes the stains are white after some, the reason is in our water, along the way it has a high salt content, it even tastes salty, you even wash it with rkkami when, all the same, white stains
Scarecrow
marisabelka,

I'm talking about this, and not about the quality of the sink. White stains may be the result of a lack of regenerating salt (how much salt consumption setting is your setting?), Excess rinse aid. We have very hard water, but there were no such problems. I mean, they were, but they are being eliminated.))

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OliOli
Meet the newbie I'd like to join you and listen to good advice. I have utensils. Hansa car, soft water, I live in the Primorsky Territory, Vladivostok. At the very beginning of use, I bought all the Finish products, salt at a minimum of 1, the rinse aid was also set to a minimum of 1 and powder, at first I poured about 3-4 teaspoons, then 1 teaspoon, since there was foam at the bottom, after the wash cycle. (The result of washing was normal, but there was a pungent smell ...) And again this foam ... On another forum I was told that it might be because of the rinse aid, that is, it seems like it does not need to be poured and there will be no foam. I also tried IKeep IVF, I have not seen anything written about it on this forum. After it, there was also a lot of foam (this is a 3in1 tablet, I added 1/3 of the tablet), I liked the smell and quality of washing more. After the main wash cycle has passed, I put 3-4 times on a simple rinse, then when I wipe by hand the dishes already creak, everything shines, in general the result is brilliant But the problem remains unresolved, this foam ... Tell me, can anyone have this ?. .. I'm really looking forward to the end of the rinse aid, the light is already on)) There is, of course, the assumption that not enough water is supplied, they say this is regulated by a technician in the machine itself. I hope someone has thoughts on this, I will be glad to read them.
Scarecrow
OliOli,

Do you have a pill regimen in your car? Did you turn it on? This stops the supply of additional products (salt and rinse aid). With hard water, the tablet is not enough and is not turned on, and you would have more than.
OliOli
Thanks for the advice, of course I included the mode, it is called 3in1, and soaps on a long ECO program for 2 hours 50 minutes. I read other forums too, so it was with some precisely because of the use of rinse aid. Maybe someone doesn't need soft water? ... Or is it thermonuclear at the Finish? ... I wonder if there are products for soft water with reduced foaming? ...
Scarecrow
OliOli,

And if you dilute it? Rinse aid, I mean. Pour just clean water into the rinse aid compartment to the remnants that you have there now. Its concentration (of the agent itself) in the rinse portion will be greatly reduced. I think you understood my idea.

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