Bijou
Ludmila, here is a quote from Andreevna:
Girls, I keep forgetting to share the experience that came back in the early 2000s. They gave me a Zepter vacuum cleaner, and there was only one roll of packages for it. This roll ended pretty quickly, but I didn't know where to buy. And then they told me how to get out of the situation. My husband somewhere bought a huge roll of thick film and we started experimenting. You seal it like a simple bag, put what needs to be vacuumized inside and put a strip of non-woven fabric (agril, spandbond, etc.) between two layers of the film and vacuum it. This is how I vacuumized a piece of cheese last week. I brought the vacuumator to the dacha, but forgot the packages, I had to get out: girl_wink: Maybe this method will come in handy sometime too
And the link from mkligor from 04 Oct. 2015, 17:54
1. The use of straws for drinking beverages allows packaging with a non-corrugated packer designed for corrugated packaging using ordinary smooth bags:
It seems to be here.))


Added Saturday 28 May 2016 10:00 PM

Quote: Mila1
If suddenly the video comes across, give a link, please
Already.))
By the way, the packages were bought for me in our city in a regular store for the sale of all sorts of nonsense, equipment and expenses in retail outlets. We call it PIR, it seems to be a network. Then I looked at the same packages in other places on the Internet, so it turned out even a few kopecks more expensive.)
Mila1
Bijou, Helen, THANKS !!! Looked I need to try. I have METRO bags I only need to buy straws And non-woven, which is a covering material?
Olechka.s
Lena, thanks!
Quote: Bijou
You seal it as a simple bag, put what needs to be vacuumized inside and put a strip of non-woven fabric (agril, spandbond, etc.) between the two layers of the film and vacuum it
Something I did not understand - a strip of non-woven fabric is put at the upper cut? And the edge of the non-woven bag is pushed into the vacuum unit?
francevna
Olechka.s, Olga, I think that this material prevents two layers of film from sticking together. I'll try to do it tomorrow.
Bijou
Quote: Mila1
A non-fabric, which is a covering material?
Apparently yes.
But I also thought about another thing, which is used when sewing to reinforce from the inside out. Flizelin, or something ... It looks like a spunbond, only it is glued.)) But I think that it will certainly be necessary to make the second seam higher so that this gasket does not look out.

My tube is sealed when like - sometimes from the first time and to death, and sometimes I solder it a second time, like in that video - so that the tip inside the second camera can be melted. In short, while I'm working on the technology, I only have these packages for a couple of days.)))


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My first thought was to put a piece of real corrugated in between the layers. Yeah, a fig - it doesn't melt on the smooth side of me.))) Or you have to be smart about the top-bottom type, I didn't hang over it ... I just put it down a couple of times and got the corrugated side soldered, but the smooth one does not.
Shtebovich
New from the manufacturer CASO.
Stylish vacuum sealer Ellrona VF 50
Stainless steel insert and wet mode.
Sales start in Russia in June.

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Tanyush @ ka
Girls, please tell me which one is better to buy a vacuum sealer, so that it is of high quality and I would like it not very expensive, I want to try to cook meat sous
melanya
Tanyush @ ka, Tatyana, look at Ellrona 22, it seems to be produced by the same company as CASO, if you don’t chase the appearance, it’s the same. The girls are very happy with them and the price is humane
Masinen
Quote: S-t
Stylish vacuum sealer Ellrona VF 50

Wow, how beautiful !!!!
Tanyush @ ka
melanya, thanks, the appearance is not at all necessary for me, the most important thing is that it would work without problems.
Samopal
Evacuated with a vacuum cleaner CASO VC350 chicken breasts in narrow rolls CASO. It turned out fine, I soldered with a small margin, the liquid did not get anywhere. I tucked the top 2 times (so as not to get dirty). Hence, a small margin was obtained. We will make chicken breasts sous.
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Bijou
Quote: Samopal
I tucked the top 2 times (so as not to get dirty).
You can adjust a piece of a plastic bottle of a suitable size - put it into a bag in order not to bother with twisting. You can arrange it like a funnel, you can just use it as a piece of flexible plastic.

To put something into the bags, using a wide preservation funnel is very convenient.)

Still experimenting with cheap sleek bags.
Packing as shown in the video from the link above, I'm not very good at it. More precisely, it turns out, but a lot of fiddling with guessing the depth of stuffing the tube. Plus, sometimes the packet manages to collapse above it and then everything is gone, just have time to cancel the seal.)))

Therefore, I take an ordinary straw, make several notches on it along the length with scissors, push it deep into the bag (if the bottom is liquid, then so that it does not reach it, or even use a piece from the tube), leave the end sticking out over the edge of the bag and just solder it twice. As an experiment, today's coffee is sealed in one case twice in one place and twice with an indentation of the seams from each other in the other. We'll see.)

I didn't find a non-woven fabric, I found a dry napkin. Well, those are not paper. It was pumped through it with great difficulty (these were seeds) and in several steps, and the package went limp on the third day. So it's checked, bullshit.)) Nearby, lying exactly the same, but with a straw soldered twice with an indention, keeps a stiff upper lip.

While the intermediate result is as follows - smooth bags in the house are a must.
Some things are definitely more convenient to solder in their own packages. These are either wet products, or when you need to quickly and quickly. But a lot of lehko can be packed in penny bags plus a straw. First of all, these are bulk products and those products that we usually select for use, like the same coffee or seeds / nuts. Sandwiches again or food for the trip ...

Well, a ruble or two for a bag in general is very conducive to strengthening the nervous system, IMHO.
Natusichka
Girls, Tell me please. I vacuum for freezing herbs (dill and parsley), I showed a photo recently. They shrink as much as a stone turns out. Then I will store it in the freezer. And what will happen to them in winter? When I cut the bag, can I take some greens? Something I was thinking ... If you do not evacuate, then they sometimes get covered with frost, it turns out not very tasty. So I decided to do so, and now I'm scratching my turnips.
* Anyuta *
Natusichka, I opened it - the greens (in particular dill) were in good condition. Right now the sorrel is vacuumized, but I can't say anything about it, because I haven't opened it yet.
Don't worry - everything should be OK !!!
Marika33
Girls, if you put a strip of a mosquito net in a regular bag, then it is perfectly and quickly evacuated, no need to fiddle with the tubes. But for sealing it is better to do the second seam immediately.
Mandraik Ludmila
Marina, please explain where to put, in place of the seam, between the layers of the film? I still cannot understand, the very technique of such a sealing, I just started using a vacuum apparatus and there are still a lot of corrugated bags, but I also want to save money, otherwise they are worth - horror!
Bijou
Quote: marika33
put a strip of mosquito net, then it is perfectly and quickly evacuated
Oh super! And in my head something is spinning that should be plastic, but perforated. I've already thought of a thin net tulle, but not yet a mosquito. Thank you!!
Marika33
Mandraik Ludmila, put a strip of mesh between the film, inside the bag. While doing this for short storage, not for long. So that there is no smell in the refrigerator (fish). I also stocked up with high-quality film. I like Caso very much, they have the best film.
Bijou, Lena, vacuum is just super, but with a seal it would be better with a double seam, I remember my Kasik
Natusichka
Quote: * Annie *

Don't worry - everything should be OK !!!

Thank you, Annie! Now I am calm.
Marika33
Natusichka, I vacuumed up celery in the fall. Yes, the bags were like a stone, but when you open it, the greens are like fresh and the right amount is perfectly broken off with a knife. And then I put the bag into a zip, so as not to solder and cut the film every time, but you can just snap it and pump it out.
Natusichka
MarinaThank you very much, she also reassured me !!!
Fly in slippers
I reread the whole topic, strangled a toad and bought a redmond with containers. I have packed everyone, until everything seems to be working out!
And why did I come: when I was thinking about buying a packer, the main question was "how to store it?" On the desktop, it will take up space (albeit a little, but the kitchen is not rubber) in the closet - every time it will be too lazy to get it, in the end, it will lie like that, and for that kind of money I want to use it often! And the film must still be at hand, that is, it is necessary that it does not occupy a useful area, and it is easy to start using it. I thought, I thought, and I came up with it, I decided to write, suddenly someone else will come in handy:
I found just such a shelf for railing on ozone:
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It is almost perfect in size for a radish. Rather, the width is excellent, and the length is a centimeter or two shorter, so the vacuum cleaner does not stand in the recess, but stands as if on top, on the edges of the shelf. At the same time, it is quite stable due to the fixation of the legs on the side of the shelf. I used the remaining recess between the bottom of the appliance and the grid of the shelf for a small stock of bags. And a roll of film fits perfectly on the top narrow shelf.
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As a result, the work surface is free, and the packer will always be at hand!
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And I also have a question during operation: is it immediately ready for work after switching on, or does it take some time to wait until this sealing piece heats up?
natushka
Quote: Fly in slippers
after switching on, it is immediately ready for work, or you need to wait some time
There is no need to wait. Well thought out with a shelf, but it would be where to hang this shelf. I have it on the windowsill, although I don't really like
Fly in slippers
Quote: natushka
there would be where to hang this shelf.
Well, I understand that it will not suit everyone, but even if an idea is useful to at least one person, it will be great)))
Natusichka
Fly in slippers, thank you very much for the idea !!!
olgea
Good afternoon girls.
Girls who use non-corrugated bags and a tube, can you please tell me if I pushed the tube correctly or it is necessary to go further, or vice versa, it makes no sense to do such a long one:
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I decided to salt the cucumbers. And so I vacuum it tightly, though I sealed it 2 times just in case.
How long are fresh cucumbers stored in a vacuum? Thank you.
LisaNeAlisa
olgea, I make short ones ...
olgea
Anita, And how short?
LisaNeAlisa
olgea, centimeters 5-7. If it works out, I'll take off the picture from the house.
olgea
AnitaThank you very much, I will wait and try to do the same.
Marina22
I insert long straws. Then all the air is sucked away and a real vacuum is obtained. I don't always succeed with short ones.
Mila1
Girls, do you take ordinary packages, not corrugated ones?
olgea
Quote: Mila1
Girls, do you take ordinary packages, not corrugated ones?
Well, how to say the usual ones, they brought me packages from the Metro, they are just for packing in a vacuum, they are plump. And the usual ones probably won't.
LisaNeAlisa
Mila1, I take the usual ones for vacuum sealers in the subway. Kind of like they are for industrial. During this time, the minced meat was unpacked in the freezer only once.
The only thing that I do the sealing a couple of times is for the packer to warm up before sealing with a straw, then everything works out.
Mila1
olgea, LisaNeAlisa, girls, thanks! Here I have just such Metro there are I just read that someone can't pack it with straws And I haven't bought the straws yet to try It is necessary to urgently run to look for them
LisaNeAlisa
olgea, promised photos:
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Chickpeas left over from long-straw hummus
francevna
Anita, probably, until you try to do it yourself, it will be incomprehensible.
LisaNeAlisa
Alla, maybe yes. But I did it the first time.
This is the only way I pack for the freezer. If you store something dry in the refrigerator, such as herbs, cheese, sausages, also in ordinary bags with a straw. But if there is something large in a liquid marinade, then only bags with corrugation.
Samopal
I use the economy packages Status. I solder, however, for peace of mind, with a double seam. I store food in the refrigerator, cook it in a Steba dish, I have never disintegrated. Ugh, ugh. Who has the seams diverging, maybe you are doing something wrong? You need to practice and everything will work out.
francevna
Today I tried to vacuumize a smooth bag, it is very dense, for salting meat. The tube was from baby juice. Nothing worked for me. And it didn't work with the covering material.
But it turned out with the bending of the cut inward, I made two seams at once. Where there is a thickening, the seam parted, but the second was preserved.
Samopal
Quote: francevna
The tube was from baby juice.
Maybe it's denser than for cocktails? Therefore, it is not soldered
francevna
I thought about it too, but the cocktail tube is not at home.
LisaNeAlisa
I bought thin black short ones on the subway, they are sealed with a bang
Jenealis
I will share it too. It is not always what needs to be evacuated, because it is used in the near future, but it needs to be frozen. I take a regular freezer bag, level the product in it, expel the air with my hands, fold the upper edge twice (by 3 centimeters) and solder. Much more convenient than tying a bag. And it takes up less space. Great for minced meat, grills, steaks, etc. Now everything is in a pile, the strings do not interfere.
francevna
Evgeniya, I also close many products like that.
Mari_M
Fly in slippers, Hello! Tell me please, did you use containers? and how do they work? I also want to buy REDMOND, but for now I choose between model 020 and 021
LisaNeAlisa
Mari_M, I'm not a Fly, but I also have a Redmond 021. Take it with the containers right away, you won't regret it! It is great to marinate meat and vegetables in them and store everything that fits in there) and savings on bags, they are expensive ...
Mari_M
LisaNeAlisa, Thank you for the answer! Just wherever I read the reviews are not so good.
natushka
Quote: Mari_M
Just wherever I read the reviews are not so good.
I also have 21, the containers are fine, while everything works fine (a year has passed). Something I have not seen negative.
Mari_M
Dear hostesses! Please tell me what the tubes are for? What role do they play in evacuation?

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