LisaNeAlisa
Mari_M, strange. The packer is excellent, the containers are included, 3 pieces. I pack in them and in my own bags and in simple vacuum bags with a tube.
A couple of times the liquid got out of the bag, wiped it off with a napkin and everything is fine.
Sometimes negative reviews are due to crooked hands and high expectations))))


Added Thursday, 09 Jun 2016 8:39 pm

Quote: Mari_M

Dear hostesses! Please tell me what the tubes are for? What role do they play in evacuation?
They allow the use of non-corrugated packages.
Samopal
LisaNeAlisa, I agree with every word
Mari_M
natushka, Thank you! Now I will definitely buy 21


Added Thursday 09 Jun 2016 09:16 PM

Quote: LisaNeAlisa
crooked hands and high expectations))))
That's for sure! I completely agree with you
Bijou
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
Take it right away with containers, you will not regret it! It is great to marinate meat and vegetables in them and store everything that fits in there) and savings on bags, they are expensive ...
This is yes. Just do not forget that if the bags contain more or less real vacuum, then the containers just have a little less air, but not an airless space.) That is, the storage periods are still different.

If anything, I have the same Redmond with containers. I can't get to the experiments ...
LisaNeAlisa
Lena, I even have a cabbage salad longer (cabbage, apple, carrot). It still takes longer. And you can't pack everything. I vacuum the yogurt in a container)
Natusya
Girls, found on Ali rolls 20 cm * 500 cm 1 Roll 388.33 rubles. / PC.


Samopal
So STATUS 3 rolls 300 cm long, 28 cm wide cost from 700 rubles.
Natusya
Samopal, Oleg thanks. Don't give me a link
Samopal
Natusya, Sent via LAN
Fly in slippers
Quote: Mari_M
Fly in slippers, Hello! Tell me please, did you use containers? and how do they work? I also want to buy REDMOND, but for now I choose between model 020 and 021
I use it, one might say because of the containers and took it) they hold it well))) True, how long - I cannot say, but while one of the jars is in the refrigerator for the second week, the vacuum is still holding. The jars are good, the size is convenient, the plastic looks strong. Marinated meat in them, (very quickly marinated in a vacuum) I store liquid products (such as soup leftovers) I use to evacuate glass jars (somewhere at the beginning of the topic there was a link how to do it), in general I use them even more actively than bags, because that it is faster, (no need to make a bag, solder it) and it comes out cheaper, especially for short shelf life.) I pack everything that needs to be stored longer in bags. Three cans were not enough for me, I think where - to buy a couple more, so that they fit the Redmond hose.
The packer himself also likes it, so far there has never been a case of unpacking, the only thing is that when you make packages from a roll, the "seal" button does not always work again after a short period of time - the instructions say that the blinking of the button indicates overheating, you have to wait few seconds. I use packages that are both native and inexpensive Ellrona, I did not notice the difference, they solder both without whims.
olgea
Girls, and somebody tried to vacuum fried sunflower seeds. How they behave in vacuum is interesting.
Vesta
olgea, Olya, I don't know fried, but I bought raw in a vacuum.
Mari_M
Fly in slippersThank you very much for such a detailed answer.
Fly in slippers
Mari_M, Always glad to help))) You decided to take 021 in the end?
Jenealis
olgea, seeds, nuts and crackers I vacuum, behave perfectly, as after the factory packaging.
Bijou
Several days ago I evacuated cold "jam", conducted an experiment on the sly: I sealed a piece of bread. She did not completely deprive him of air - as soon as she began to shrink, she stopped. The seam is double, above the mesh it is sealed on a clean film. The bread at the time of packing was yesterday's. Today is 14. So, he is 5 days old, he was kept just on the table in the kitchen, while in our house it was not higher than 20-21.

Mold is visible, right? (

Vacuum packing machine
kVipoint
Finally, I managed to seal the packages from the Metro using tubes, maybe my experience will come in handy, before that, more often than not, nothing happened, well, after sealing, air came out of the tubes and that's it. In general, it came to me that the tube is not soldered, there is not enough power or the tubes are very dense (Elron's packer), as a result, I press the solder twice in a row (or rather, the first time after evacuating the air, the package is sealed and the second time I again solder click). Everything, now I can do everything, I'm happy as an elephant


Added on Tuesday 14 Jun 2016 11:03 PM

Bijou, and homemade or store bread?
Mirabel
Vita, Here I also cannot vacuumize with a tube.
Especially gifted! First, pump out the air, and then solder it twice? So?
kVipoint
Mirabel, yes, I just understood that the tube could not be soldered in any way, and the air came out through it, and I just after the air is pumped out by the vacuum unit and once soldered according to its own programs, I press the seal one or two times, then the tube is also exactly soldered, try it, I hope it will work, I already thought, well, why did I buy so many packages in the Metro, and now (la-la-beauty) it finally worked out (I apologize for the mistakes, I did not know how to write some words correctly)
Mirabel
yes yes, it is through the tube that the air comes out, thank you very much! : rose: I'll even try today.
Song
Quote: kВipoint
why did I buy so many packages in the Metro
And I didn't succeed with the tubes.
Shyhope
Hello girls !!
Please help me with choosing a packer, otherwise I'm reading the topic while the child is sleeping, but soon to feed him and his eyes are already sticking together)
there is a need for a vacuum packer - the husband is often on business trips, due to his debt he also happens in places where you cannot always buy food norms, and his gastritis drives everyone crazy from pasture)
and so I packed the food in portions and sent it with peace of mind, he threw it into the fridge in the hotel and is happy)) I'm interested in the model, so that it would be possible to pack liquid products, such as stewed vegetables or meat with gravy, there is no talk about soups)) I'm from Kiev.
Thank you very much for your help !!!
Mari_M
Quote: Jenealis
You decided to take 021 in the end?
I think yes ))))))
Bijou
Quote: kВipoint
Biju, and homemade or store bread?
Home. Usually he lives about that long without any vacuumization. Well. maybe a day less ..

About the straws.
Girls, can't it be that these are just tubes so non-soldering? I, too, most often initially solder twice in one place and follow her after that. Normally, after the end of the cycle, it remains flattened. Then we snap off and watch further. Is it flattened anyway and doesn't suck? Then we turn off the edges of the bag and cut out the excess length of the tube so that one bag can be sealed from above again. Well, just in case, a control shot.)

Maybe fold the tubes in a row 2-3 things and try to make a seam on them? At least it will be clear if they can weld at all. Here the film packaged with the outer sides does not know how to solder at all. None, not corrugated or smooth. Maybe some straws are the same? Especially next time I'll buy straws in Lenta or somewhere else. To make the brand clear. And then I generally have some kind of multi-colored centenary from the stall.)
Anna1957
Virgo, have you ever come across the fact that regular corrugated bags stop functioning 3-4 times after washing in the dishwasher? That is, the air is not sucked out of them.
GALLAKTIC
Girls, all the good time of the day! Almost ripe for the purchase of a vacuum cleaner, I plan to take an Ellrona VA 22, for my needs it, I think, will be enough, and the price is more than humane. But the question arose, can she use the adapter that comes with a set of vacuum zip bags to evacuate air from them? Do any of the owners have such experience?
Masinen
Shyhope, check out ProfiCook, it has a function for delicate foods or wet ones.
In general, you would write to us what models of vacuum machines you have presented in Ukraine.
GALLAKTIC, The hose must come up and will pump out, if we are talking about the Caso set.
LisaNeAlisa
My Redmond solders the tubes perfectly, the only thing that he needs to warm up, that is, to solder something a couple of times.
By the way, Redmond also has a regime for liquid foods.
Masinen
LisaNeAlisa, so redmond is the pro cook model, which is no longer released, now redmond does.
And the PC has a different model now.

I have such a PC vacuum cleaner, as Redmond produces now.
LisaNeAlisa
Masinen, there it is!
I really like him. And containers ... And you can always negotiate a discount with the sellers in Redmond ...
Masinen
Anita, yes, a very successful model! Therefore, Redmond was in advance and releases with its own name))
kVipoint
Quote: LisaNeAlisa
the only thing that he needs to warm up, that is, to solder something a couple of times.
after these words, I tried to solder the tube a couple of times to make the vacuum cleaner get hotter, thanks for the tip, and I'll try to buy black tubes in the metro, someone here said that they are softer, maybe the first time they will work)

LisaNeAlisa
kVipoint, I said. They are shorter in length and made of less dense material. And they are very economical: I still cut each into 2 parts, for some reason it is not convenient for me with linen.
Masinen, redmond has a lot of good things. Even though they slammed models from other manufacturers, they slammed them with high quality. I, for one, just love the juicer. Completely repeats bork and kenwood, all-metal, 2 sieves included. That year I made juice in buckets, 34 liters at a time, and she did not even heat up.
Bijou
Quote: Masinen
so redmond is the pro cookie model, which is no longer produced, now redmond does it
Still, probably not "doing", but "selling"?))
Masinen
Sells, yes)
Makes a factory in china
Bijou
Yeah.)) The main thing is that the model is successful and the equipment is also good.
Masinen
Lena, exactly, the model is very, very successful !!
Already the one that is now, not that ((
marinastom
Are you talking about Pofik 1015, if I'm not lying?
Bijou
Maybe yes. Only in another incarnation.
Babushka
Quote: Anna1957

Virgo, have you ever come across the fact that regular corrugated bags stop functioning 3-4 times after washing in the dishwasher? That is, the air is not sucked out of them.
Yeah. They are sealed, but they gain air in a couple of days. Or they are badly sealed. I have to throw it away ...
Anna1957
Quote: Babushka

Yeah. They are sealed, but they gain air in a couple of days. Or they are badly sealed. I have to throw it away ...
So I throw it out, not understanding how it can be fixed. But surely someone has already thought of
Zena
Quote: Babushka
Yeah. They are sealed, but they gain air in a couple of days.
in ... the same byaaa ...
Quote: Anna1957
So I throw it out, not understanding how it can be fixed. But surely someone has already thought of

I'll sit with you ... I'll wait .. maybe someone really will teach ..
Babushka
I rubbed the inside with alcohol. Like degreased. Soldered. We'll see tomorrow...
Harita-n
It seems to me that the problem is not in how the bag is prepared for vacuuming after washing in the dishwasher. Rather, the aggressive environment in the dishwasher (exposure to detergents and high temperatures for drying) makes the bag porous for air from the outside. After all, not all bags are suitable for evacuation, but only in those where the film is resistant to air permeability. By the way, about the sealing of meter vacuum bags with a straw. I bought thin tubes in selgross, it seems to me that they can be soldered not only by special ones. device, but press them down with hot fingers, they stick together. I bought a vacuum packer after I had to demolish my strategic stock of flour, cereals, pasta and even starch - living creatures got divorced from somewhere, although there was no long storage, I sinned on oatmeal, I first noticed bugs in them, and when checking bugs and in remote places. I don't use oatmeal flakes every day, we almost don't eat porridge, I use it in the preparation of other dishes, I especially liked using it instead of breading for meatballs, cutlets.Having bought a pack of cereals, I first packed them in a container (vacuum sealer Redmond 021), it is very convenient to open and close without a financial component, but I needed a container for another purpose and decided that the savings were first of all packed in a meter bag with a straw. It turned out almost a stone, pleased. For greater strength, I immediately made 2 more seams above the tube. And somehow it turned out that I did not use flakes for a long time, well, maybe a month, I was very upset to find the package sealed, but with air. Maybe it's not about the tightness of the dispensing, but about the product or the possibility of household vacuuming for a long time or a combination of some conditions and influences.
Anna1957
And for me, the air from the bags used several times stops pumping out. Even from an empty package - I checked it on purpose. In this case, separately sealing occurs.
natushka
Quote: Anna1957
it's just that air from the bags used several times stops pumping out. Even from an empty package - I checked it on purpose. In this case, separately sealing occurs.
Me too. On the repeated ones, creases, dents are formed, I think because of this.
Anna1957
And which Metro bags are suitable for vacuuming with a straw? Who has - throw a photo, please.
GALLAKTIC
Masinen, Thanks for the answer! I, as it were, also suspect that I should come up, I only hoped that there are girls who have Ellrona who have already tried it and know for sure.
melanya
Anna1957, horeca bags, it says: Vacuum bags 20 * 30 cm 100 pieces, packed as office files, lie on the shelf next to the usual packing bags. unfortunately, no pictures
Bijou
Quote: melanya
unfortunately, no pictures
But this is how you can, probably.
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