Vacuum packing machine

Hello everyone, I'm a newbie here, leafing through the forums about packers, there is a desire to buy myself some kind of device, what is the difference between them if the function is the same for everyone to pump out and solder? And is he even needed? It's just that we have China in 10 minutes away, and I think it makes sense to buy some kind of branded or not?

We are almost neighbors, I'm from Nakhodka. I bought a vacuum machine tm Aperts through taobao, the simplest one with one button and the cheapest and I am very satisfied. The firm is a proven, the vacuumator performs its function with a bang! Despite the fact that the site says that it is not for sealing wet products, there is still a hollow for water, and everything is perfectly sealed and pumped out even in the presence of moisture. Well, and a consumable shaft: I gained 5 years in advance. So if in China then watch Aperts. I also bought a manual one for myself, but other companies are also very happy, and the price is much cheaper than similar ones are sold here ...

And if the warranty case, will they change / repair in China?

Well, at the expense of repaired vryatli and I think it will be possible to exchange them there like and give checks and all that.

We are almost neighbors, I'm from Nakhodka. I bought a vacuum machine tm Aperts through taobao, the simplest one with one button and the cheapest and I am very satisfied. The firm is a proven, the vacuumator performs its function with a bang! Despite the fact that the site says that it is not for sealing wet products, there is still a hollow for water, and everything is perfectly sealed and pumped out even in the presence of moisture. Well, and a consumable shaft: I gained 5 years in advance. So if in China, watch Aperts. I also bought a manual one for myself, but other companies are also very happy, and the price is much cheaper than similar ones are sold here ...

And what does manual mean, if not a secret?

And what does manual mean, if not a secret?

it is one that you can hold in your hand .. like a gun or a hair dryer for example ..

here's a hotter ..
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here is KASO
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here is a video from Masha .. there she talks about handmade Kaso ..

it is one that you can hold in your hand .. like a gun or a hair dryer for example ..

here's a hotter ..
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here is KASO
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here is a video from Masha .. there she talks about handmade Kaso ..

Thanks for the info

Girls boys, somebody had Hotter zip bags. I wanted to order VACS lids in an online store, but these bags came across a lot - I can assume that they may not be suitable for sous-vide (heating), but at least just for packaging. Nobody tried to use them with a Gochevsky adapter?

[Mrs. Addams]

Mrs. Addams, Good evening!
Hotter zip bags are evacuated with a Gochu adapter.
I didn’t do the sous vide in Hotter zip packages (so far there are enough packages from other companies: Caso, Gochu), because I also doubt their quality. It seemed to me that their smooth side was a little harsh, but their price, of course, is attractive

[Esvt]

Esvt, Thank you!

I bought Redmond today with banks for 6086 rubles, I'll try it in the evening.

[Galiha69]

Galiha69, Galina, Congratulations. Good packer.

Thank you! I hope we'll be friends. Before that, I used a hand-held Hotter, after a day the vacuum disappeared. Although the thing is cool

[Kote]

Kote, in China, due to the increased exchange rate, it will hardly be cheaper to buy a packer. Considering that there are both cheap and expensive models in stores, it is easier to take with a guarantee in Russia than a pig in a poke at a cosmic price in China. In general, goods from China have recently deteriorated, they have become full of slag, and the price has risen at least twice. I am writing because I also live next to China. This is not the same China

Devo-o-o-chki-i-and, help out! We urgently need to decide on a vacuum cleaner.But in Ukraine I found only Shteba, Profikuk and Klatronic (I do not consider the latter as an option). In a nutshell, can you say how the Prifiquk 1015 and 1080 differ (I know that this is a new model) except for the presence of jars (like 1015 came with jars?)? And how does Shteba 5, 6 feel compared to Proficuk? There is no opportunity and time to read 100 pages (((And I can't find a comparative characteristic anywhere Help, please!

[shuska]

shuska, I have Proficuk 1080, I did not use others, there is nothing to compare with. I like everything, only it is hard for me to close, my hands are weak.

[shuska]

shuska, I have Proficuk 1080, I did not use others, there is nothing to compare with. I like everything, only it is hard for me to close, my hands are weak.

My new one was also difficult to close. I was downright in a panic, I thought marriage. And now it has been developed and everything is normal

1015 and 1080 differ in appearance. The jars were in the DS model (1015 DS), but they have long been discontinued. Steba VK 6 has a convenient pulse mode and a slightly higher pumping speed. The latter, in my opinion, is not critical at all.

1015 and 1080 differ in appearance. The jars were in the DS model (1015 DS), but they have long been discontinued. Steba VK 6 has a convenient pulse mode and a slightly higher pumping speed. The latter, in my opinion, is not critical at all.

So it turns out 1015, 1080 and Steba 5 are nothing technically they do not differ? Can I take 1080?
And which packages are suitable for 1080? Only Proficuc or can you find something more budgetary? Can you use a roll or the machine is not suitable for this?

[Profi Cook PC-VK 1080]

Tree sticks! Roy Internet looking for a more detailed description 1080, but nothing but especially insignificant "for portioned food packaging ... wide weld seam ... Saving storage space ... Preserving food without preservatives ... food stays fresh 5 times longer ... Ideal for storage ... "I can't find (((
The impression is that they do not write on purpose!
From more or less important information, I found only that the power was 120 W, film in rolls and bags up to 30 cm, in a set of 18 bags. Nothing more!

Owners Profi Cook PC-VK 1080, please share capabilities of this device!
One hope for you!

Which one you like more externally and take it. I would suggest the CASO option, but you still don't have this brand.
The rolls themselves are not used in the wrapper, but you can make your own bags from it.
Packages and rolls are suitable for any manufacturer. The main thing is the appropriate width and the presence of embossing on the inside of the film.

I found some other Trisa 7723. But nothing is clear about it ((I did not find any reviews either

[S-t]

S-t, thanks for the tips I would also take CASO, but we really don't have them

The rolls themselves are not used in the wrapper, but you can make your own bags from it.

Yes, and I, being naive, thought that the roll goes with a sleeve welded on the sides, and you only need to solder top-bottom to form a package

[S-t]

S-t, thanks for the tips I would also take CASO, but we really don't have them
Yes, and I, being naive, thought that the roll goes with a sleeve welded on the sides, and you only need to solder top-bottom to form a package

And there is)

The roll goes by the sleeve. In my message, I emphasized that the roll lives separately from the packer
It is not inserted into the packer and the film is not fed automatically. Usually, the cost of a package cut off from a roll and soldered independently is cheaper than a factory package.

The roll goes by the sleeve. In my message, I emphasized that the roll lives separately from the packer
It is not inserted into the packer and the film is not automatically fed. Usually, the cost of a package cut off from a roll and soldered on its own is cheaper than a factory package.

Ah, now I understand. So it turns out that rolls can be used in any packer? Why, then, do some models highlight this as a virtue? For example, in CASO 200

The CASO 200 comes with a removable roll storage container. If it is possible to put the packer on the table on a permanent basis, then it is convenient. Roll is always there)

The CASO 200 comes with a removable roll storage container. If it is possible to put the packer on the table on a permanent basis, then it is convenient. Roll is always there)

Ah, so this is just a storage compartment ... And I thought that the film was fed from there into the machine ...

Recently I bought Shteba DD2, I probably need a packer)) He is not an object of my dreams, so I want a cheaper one. Thinking about Ellrona VA 22 and CASO 9 .... I did not find any special information about the latter. Or CASO 10, but it is already more expensive ... Maybe someone will advise which way to look, I want it inexpensively, but not manual.

no matter which one you take, pay attention to the heating element ..
whatever happens like mine ..
see the photo here ..

And it's so expensive! Thanks for the warning.

Yes! in so expensive!
and more packages if you wake up to take .. keep in mind that the internal useful capacity is 2 cm less .. if it is stated that, for example, 20 by 40 then in real life the width will be 18 by .. and the length of the package will decrease due to the weld ..

[Zena]

Zena, thanks, I'm still in the packers for now)) I hope you can hand over your packer without any problems.

This is the first and only case, but you need to check it anyway)

Yes confirm! until I read, I did not see what someone would write about defects or marriage ..
but this is how it happened .. it does not mean at all that the company is bad .. and the other is good .. no .. no one is immune from this .. just pay attention when buying .. just slide your finger over the heating element .. what would it be even ..
I bought such a device for the first time, my friends have no one like this .. so in the store I checked only for chips, scratches and completeness .. well, we looked .. the light is on, it means it works .. everything!

Well, what can I say ... and there is a hole in the old woman. The main thing, Zhen, is that everything ends well. They will change your packer and you will be happy and contented with us again.

and there is a hole in the old woman

My favorite teacher used to say: "Every old woman has her own hole."

Bork has a great vacuum cleaner, only the closing lid itself is worth a lot!
The first time I saw, I could not believe my eyes, I thought that she simply fell under her own weight. And then, in fact, it turns out that the cover is driven by a motor, which closes and presses it. I have not seen anything like this anywhere else, of course, convenience is at the height of the packer Bork.

In the reviews I read that there was a problem with closing the lid.
Share your impressions with Bork, please!

[marika33]

marika33, what's the problem? I have been looking after the packer Bork for a long time as a gift for the New Year and would not like to present a problem)
Where you read reviews, share links pliz!

[Zhenya]

Zhenya, here 🔗... I also read that not all packages are suitable for it.

[marika33]

marika33doesn't seem to work with containers.

[Oksana]

Oksana, did you look at the store?

No, on the website, both videos and photos, do you think there is a hole hidden for connecting the hose? Don't write anything ?!

I just called the Bork firm. There is no socket for a hose in model 501, there is in 511. and its width is 28 cm, they also do not write, so a 30 cm film will not work. What is the price for? - unclear.

The width can still be beaten, but without containers it is not interesting. But still, you have to look.

No, Oksana, for me this is not an option. I bought 10 thousand containers and caps, lids. YYYYYY, what a bad luck with Kaso.

Do not cry! : empathy1: NAV they will fix everything and we will buy it again

[marika33]

marika33, like they write in the discussion that, on the contrary, any packages are suitable. I need to look at the store again, I just looked and caught fire. In addition to the fact that it is beautiful, it is very convenient, which is only a self-closing lid, press lightly on the button and the lid itself closes and presses, no effort, I have not seen this anywhere else. And what they write about the cover, well, probably marriage or crooked hands, this happens to everyone, look what they write about the vaunted Kaso)

By the way, as Julia wrote with Domupak, Bork is made at the same plant as Gochu, so I am sure that the Korean quality should be many times better than any Chinese European.

[jenyaiva]

jenyaiva, I read about packages somewhere on another site. Managers answer: "as it were, works with everyone." And when I hear this combination of "like", then I don't want to have a relationship anymore.
Bork 501 does not have a socket for working with vacuum containers, 511 does, but there are no separate hoses, they say "for now", they are only available in a set with three containers at the cost of the packer itself = 13,990 rubles.

[marika33]

marika33, well, how lucky you are with the manager) Although I am more than sure that if it is made at the same plant as Gocha, then it works like Gocha with all the packages. The fact that 501 does not have a nest is a minus, it turns out that you need to take 511 and save money for containers with a hose. A hose separate from Gochu will not work? I need to ask Julia ...

you need to take 511 and save money for containers with a hose

And all would be fine, only here the amount turns out ...

A hose separate from Gochu will not work? I need to ask Julia ...

Julia has already answered this question in another topic.