Galiha69
Girls have already asked this question in another thread. Now I will ask here. There are manual packers Hotter, it is problematic to buy native zip packages for him. can anyone tried to fit zip packages from Kaso. It would be great if they fit.
Song
Quote: Galiha69

it's problematic to buy native zip packages for him
And what is the problem?

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Fotina
Quote: gala10

Nataliya, but why adapt if there is a native one in the kit?
dear, probably, WAKS covers not stick? This is me about Sigmund & Stein))
Fotina
I mastered two topics, my brains are boiling. I realized that the new Z&S is in the lead in terms of bells and whistles and price, it can be bought for 7200 rubles. There is only one drawback - a single seam. Well, there is only one "live" review so far.
The next model - Caso 300 - has everything except containers (I forgot - there is no hose either?) 9990 rubles
In third place - Caso 200. No dry / wet mode.
And Redic 021 - no double seam. But Redik himself is not. And I have a feeling that it won't.

From the reviews of the hostesses of the basic models, I realized that a single seam is not a problem at all. And the absence of a pulse mode or dry / wet mode still causes some inconvenience, requires skill.

Oh yes. Goshevsky hose is needed in any case - because of the expanding suction cup for vacuuming VAKS. The regular hose of no other packer is suitable for this purpose. Yes?
Fotina
I will think in general. Or Elrona, or Sigmund & Stein. Who is who - I - the toad, or the toad - me?))
Masinen
Svetlana, Kaso 300 has a hose and a cutter included, and containers need to be bought separately, or rather, you can buy)
Fotina
Masha, but it is almost 3000 more expensive than ZiSh. Double seam or 3000? * in the voice of Hamlet *
Fotina
I don't really need containers, there are VAKS lids, and cans are constantly being emptied. Well, maybe I would take a 1.5-2 liter, with a wide throat.
Masinen
Why?
Double seam, container hose and built-in cutter!
Plus a mode for moist / delicate products.
And also the name!
And you won't find a Sigmund in Europe, they only do it for us.
And Caso is a famous brand)
Fotina
sigmund is a Russian brand with a foreign name. Bork or Kaiser type.
I don't know about the quality.
I meant that he has everything that Caso has, except for the double seam. Moreover, it is 3 thousand cheaper. That is, 3 thousand - formally the cost of a double seam))
Masinen
Well Bork, this is a premium segment for household appliances.
But Sigmund, average))
Bork also had vacuum apparatus, look)
Natalia K.
Something I probably don't understand? Is the double seam really so important? I do it on Ellron too. Ellron also has a cutter, well, you can buy a hose for it. Why pay more? IMHO.
Fotina
Quote: Masinen

Well Bork, this is a premium segment for household appliances.
But Sigmund, average))
Bork also had vacuum apparatus, look)
no-no, nafik-nafik
I just cited as an example)) without regard to quality.
Belka13
natalisha_31I think Caso will be better in quality. Not everyone is ready to overpay 30% of the cost for this.
Natalia K.
Belka13, Caso and Ellrona are produced by the same company. Ellrona is a subsidiary of Caso.
Fotina
Quote: natalisha_31

Something I probably don't understand? Is the double seam really so important? I do it on Ellron too. Ellron also has a cutter, well, you can buy a hose for it. Why pay more? IMHO.
no, not at all, I wrote that I understood it. And I don't want to pay 3000 just for it.
But with hard / soft / dry / wet - that's another song. Still, the girls admitted that the liquid escapes, and the package has to be lowered from the table, and the vacuum apparatus must be lifted. It is not always possible to keep up with the reactivity of the apparatus. Here. I made this conclusion from what I read.Theoretical - I have never seen any vacuum sealer in my eyes)))
And these modes, in turn (in ZiSh), also cost around 3000 (almost 4000 Elron and a little more than 7 thousand - ZiSh).
And so I think - and for THIS I am ready to give 3000?)))))

And in a month, I have DR (how much does Ozone give now? 500 or 1000?), I will buy 300 points from MTS (the miser, they used to give 500 points), I have 160 more points on my Ozone account ...
If the price is not raised, either Elrona will cost me for nothing, or Suddenly ZiSh will appear. What if the action will be made for packers?
In general, discord
Belka13
Natalia, I know. It's like Zanussi and AEG. It seems similar, but there is a difference. And I meant Sigmund when I wrote about the price difference.
Natalia K.
Quote: Belka13
And I meant Sigmund when I wrote about the price difference.
Olga, well, I get you not correctly understood. Well, it's okay, the main thing is figured out the question
Natalia K.
Quote: Fotina
In general, discord
SvetlanaI think that before the birthday, enlightenment will come and buy what you want
Babushka
I rarely use tomato paste. Even a small jar (170 g), opened for sauce or soup, can hang in the refrigerator for a month. I tried many storage methods, but mold still appears. After purchasing the packer, the problem was resolved. There is always a used bag that is small for food, but a jar fits well in it. This one has a diameter of 5 cm. I store it on the refrigerator door.

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jenyaiva
Quote: Masinen
Well Bork, this is a premium segment for household appliances.
But Sigmund, average))
Bork also had vacuum apparatus, look)

Bork has a great vacuum cleaner, only the closing lid itself is worth a lot!
The first time I saw, I could not believe my eyes, I thought that she simply fell under her own weight. And then, in fact, it turns out that the cover is driven by a motor, which closes and presses it. I have not seen anything like this anywhere else, of course, convenience is at the height of the packer Bork.
Masinen
jenyaiva, do you have it?
I saw him in the store when he first came out with them.
jenyaiva
Quote: Masinen
jenyaiva, do you have one?
No, I saw him in Moscow, in the Bork boutique. It was interesting what kind of packer they have, there you can try all the devices in action. Before that, it always seemed to me that Bork is just a design, but their packer really turned out to be not just beautiful, but also convenient. You don't need to close or press anything on it at all, it does it all by itself! Go see for yourself. And how quiet it works! Compared to Gochu, he just whispers, by the way, he also has film clips like Gochu, and as I understand it, he is not afraid of water, because it automatically turns off if the water fills the vacuum compartment. Of course, I didn't really like the black design, it is not suitable for everyone, it would be white, I would definitely buy it)
jenyaiva
🔗./eShop/Vacuum+packer/au501/
Design class! The color would be more fun only ... And it turns out to be made in Korea!
Natalia K.
Zhenya, link does not open
Masinen
jenyaiva, I saw him, but purely outwardly. Didn't include it)

And Gosh reminded me of Bork in form.
jenyaiva
Quote: natalisha_31
Zhenya, the link won't open
On the bork website, it is in the For the kitchen / Vacuum sealer / Vacuum sealer AU501
Natalia K.
Quote: jenyaiva
Vacuum sealer AU501
Thank you for looking.
jenyaiva
Quote: Masinen
And Gosh reminded me of Bork in form.
I have Gosh herself), I won't say in form that they are very similar. Gosha is still simpler, a sort of middle peasant, but Bork feels premium!
But the feeling when you press the button and the lid itself drops and presses - indescribable! I was pleasantly surprised and dumbfounded, at first I thought that it just accidentally closed) Only the second time, I realized that this was done automatically.
jenyaiva
By the way, the price is also surprisingly low, especially for a Korean product.
Masinen
Well, it's clear that Gosha is an economist. option.

Well, Bork, as always)))
Natalia K.
Quote: jenyaiva
By the way, the price is also surprisingly low.
511 BORK - almost 14 thousand worth
jenyaiva
Quote: Masinen
Gosha economy. option
Yes, Gosha is a trouble-free workhorse, comfortable and reliable. Before Bork, he seemed to me the most, and now I understand that there is no limit to perfection)
jenyaiva
Quote: natalisha_31
511 BORK - almost 14 thousand worth
See 501 bork, 10 thousand. It seems the same, I did not understand the difference since 511
Natalia K.
Zhenya, I have already looked. But I'm crazy about my Ellrona V22 packer. It suits me perfectly
I'm not ready to shell out such easy money for something that you don't use every day.
jenyaiva
Quote: natalisha_31
I'm not ready to shell out such easy money for something that you don't use every day.
That's right, but if it weren't for my faithful Gochu, I would definitely have bought a Bork packer)) I love convenient technology!
Natalia K.
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I love convenient technology!
The equipment I bought is all convenient and beloved
Song
And here a set of caps is cheaper ...

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Masinen
Anya, you have broken link.
Natalia K.
Anya, I also did not open the link.
Song
I fixed.
Fotina
Can I duplicate it? already bursting

Elron has been updated. And I cooked my debut beef sous vid. In Shteba DD1 and a cast-iron frying pan))
Delicious. Surprisingly - not even marble, but juicy and soft. Really,
Any cut can be turned into a good steak. True, I cut it thinly, only 1.5 cm.
She was afraid that she would be rejoicing. Oh, how wrong she was!

Girls, thank you very much!
I'm so happy! And how happy my boys are!
It's time to take up photography, otherwise you want to show off, and beauty
I can't create.
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Song
Fotina, Svetlana, Congratulations!
Well, did you like the e-mail? You have such a delicious meat.
Fotina
Anya, yes, I liked it. Of course, I have this option when "I didn't eat anything sweeter than carrots", maybe this is the first packer that I did not hold in my hands, but even saw.)))
Tomorrow they will bring me another hose, I will try to close the Goshev container and VAK lids)))
marinastom
Sveta, congratulations on your next assistant!
How else would we learn to move kitchens apart ...
Natalia K.
Quote: marinastom
How else would we learn to move kitchens apart ...
Yes, more
Samovarschitsa
Good day everyone :)
I was puzzled by the purchase of a packer, I did not master the whole topic, but I gathered useful information. I decided to buy Zigmund & Shtain Kuchen-Profi VS-505. But, the question arose with the "consumable", that is, packages. A roll of film is 3m, I found it for 756r. It turns out that about 75 rubles will be released for one package of the product: (somehow it comes out a little expensive, upset :( Can you help, are there any options to buy a cheaper film, some other film is suitable for him?
I would be very grateful for the tips !!!!
jenyaiva
Try to look for Korean, it is very high quality, fits all packers and does not bite for the price. Unlike the Chinese one, which comes with almost all packers of European brands, it is more flexible and transparent. Moreover, if they write the truth, then it is multi-layered with special layers that do not allow oxygen to pass through. At least I have frozen trout in the freezer for 3 years and after defrosting as fresh!
Samovarschitsa
Quote: jenyaiva
Try to search for Korean, it is very high quality,

I'll try to search, thanks! and the name of the company or some other "identification" signs, does not it have?
Belka13
Samovarschitsa, go to the site dom-

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