Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

The last times I stopped beeping only at the end of the program. She made French bread strictly according to the recipe from the book. And the top crust is also breaking ... Now I'll try to load a photo from my phone ...


Here. It seems to have worked out.

when the roof tears, it is a lack of moisture .. now the heating is working. Maybe the flour has dried up? Again, a lot depends on the flour manufacturer. Try adding 10 grams more water.
or the yeast is "wise" there is such an effect when the yeast has not fermented and began to "play" when baking.
Read the kolobok rule and mistakes .. there such situations are considered.
(In general, the state of the bread suggests that it is confused with the recipe)
And about the stove, another question: when the program ends, does it end? (I mean what is on the display?) Maybe she (the stove) thinks that it is not over yet?

People, send them to the proven recipe for half-rye bread) A lot of flour is spoiled, but almost nothing worthwhile comes out.

People, send them to the proven recipe for half-rye bread) A lot of flour is spoiled, but almost nothing worthwhile turns out

Check out the 50x50 recipe with live yeast. Checked repeatedly!
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=109387.0
(only I put 16 grams of live yeast) or 1.5 tsp dry
Darnitsky (from fugasca) is also a working recipe
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&topic=596.0

The end icon flashes on the display. Some kind of program glitch, maybe? Today I waited ten minutes after the end of the program time before I turned it off ...
I used the same flour and yeast as before. Flour - Sokolnicheskaya bakery, yeast - pakmaya fast. And water exactly according to the recipe - 280 gr.
The first few loaves were perfect. And now for the third time such a "misunderstanding" (

The end icon flashes on the display. Some kind of program glitch, maybe?

It should be so. After the end of baking, the display should show "End". And the stove should squeak quietly several times. You only need to press the "Stop" button. If this is not done, the oven switches to the bread heating mode. Until you press the "Stop" button.

I used the same flour and yeast as before.

Does this mean the flour and yeast were from the same purchase? If you bought again when the old yeast and flour stock ran out, it DOESN'T MEAN THAT ARE THE SAME. From party to party, only the name can remain the SAME. And the quality can play around. When I have something like that with a roof (the appearance of which does not affect the quality of bread in any way) or baked goods, I just change the flour in turn, then the yeast, buying them in another store. It always helps!

And water exactly according to the recipe - 280 gr.

Specify Recipe - is it program 01?
Good luck!

After the end of baking, the display should show "End". And the stove should squeak quietly several times.

The fact of the matter is that it does not squeak!

Does this mean the flour and yeast were from the same purchase?

Yes, from the same purchase.

Specify Recipe - is it program 01?

No, program 07 (French for 2500)

I just change the flour one by one, then the yeast, buying them in another store. It always helps!

I'll have to try ...)

Exactly, exactly! recipe and program are two different things! I can write a recipe for program 01 in Panasonic 2502.
The fact is that program 02 is shortened and therefore has very high requirements for ingredients. And French bread in Panas is made about 6 hours ... here the quality of flour and yeast is at the head of the table! (no sugar)
I use MAKFA and Tverskaya wheat bakery extra! MAKFA is a little better.
But most of all I liked Italian (galliani in my opinion), but expensive!

Yes, from the same purchase.

This is also not a panacea .... it happens that the heating has been added and the frost has dried the air outside - so you don't have enough moisture!

try to enter the stove into the service mode and control the temperature inside! if it can hold 35 degrees, then both the sensor and the heating element are in order.

try to enter the stove into the service mode and control the temperature inside! if it can hold 35 degrees, then both the sensor and the heating element are in order.

And how to do it? For blondes ... :-)

Turn on the stove, then simultaneously press "menu" + "crust color" + "start"
The display shows ALL symbols
then press "size"
the stove will squeak several times and start turning the heating element on and off
put a thermometer inside the bucket and look after 5-10 minutes.
This mode can be kept indefinitely. (I melt the dough on it when I bake it manually)

put a thermometer inside the bucket and look after 5-10 minutes.

Which thermometer is better to use?

Turn on the stove, then simultaneously press "menu" + "crust color" + "start"
The display shows ALL symbols
then press "size"
the stove will squeak several times and start turning the heating element on and off
put a thermometer inside the bucket and look after 5-10 minutes.
This mode can be kept indefinitely. (I melt the dough on it when I bake it manually)

Maxim, how to get out of this regime?

Just press stop two times. I also liked the proofing of the dough in this mode.

I ran off here - I could not answer!
Already told everything!

Which thermometer is better to use?

I would put the usual window. No special measurement accuracy is needed + - 2 degrees ... it is important to see if the stove CAN maintain the temperature. This will tell about the serviceability of the temperature sensor, heating element and the program (controller) as a whole.
Maybe it's just some kind of software bug ... you need to look for a reset of the stove to the factory state.
Or maybe a simple entry into the service menu is enough for the stove to return to mind.

Oh, thank you)))

I downloaded the service manual for our stove. now I read it - maybe there is a reset-initialization procedure

Someone posted it here, too. I have to rummage through my computer.

How can I attach a file here? (not in the reset manual, there is a pick test)

Seems not. This is not the first time the chief has been asked questions about this.

Only if you put it somewhere and a hyperlink or a picture.

🔗
There she is!
And I went to catch burbots for three days!

Thank you! Happy fishing!)

P.S. This is for 2502 ... I need to rummage in the manual for my (2500), maybe there is also a pick test ...

And I went to catch burbots for three days!

OOOO ......
nuuuu, no tail, no scales, as they say

[Maxim]

Maxim, make the link inactive.

baked bread from the manual (there is a cap) "Bread with bran", according to the precepts of the forum, changed the volume of water, it turned out like this:

Dry yeast / h. L 2
Wheat flour / gr. 225
Rye flour / gr. 200
Rye bran / st. l. 3
Sugar / st. l. 1.5
Salt / hl 1.5
Powdered milk / st. l. 2
Water / ml 330 (was 430)

the bread turned out to be small, and the crumb stuck together - I'm thinking next time to do it with 430 ml of water?

If you add 430 water, the roof falls through, 330 is too tight for me. I add 370, which is optimal for me. But, it seems to me that everything is individual here, tastes are also different for everyone.

And I went to catch burbots for three days!

I was sure that they were caught only at night ...
Eh-eh, stewed burbot with carrot-onions, um!

[Moofiepie]

Moofiepie, have you tried changing yeast?

Moofiepie, have you tried changing yeast?

nope, it's not natural in a briquette, which can give oak.
added water to 370 ml - the crumb became good, the "roof" fell off, when the khlubushek settled, it began to resemble H.
plus the batch is defective (a crust of flour formed on one edge)

[Moofiepie]

Moofiepie, well, that's better.
If 370 is a lot, then decrease it by 10 ml.

Any yeast can misfire.

Any yeast can misfire.

I completely agree! : rose: Come on! I once threw out the tape of the Saf-moment and bought in ANOTHER store (another batch of yeast) also the Saf-moment. Glitches are gone. The bread turned out.

She made French bread strictly according to the recipe from the book.

And how are you with plain bread? here is the recipe 100% turns out - 2.5 tsp, l yeast 600 g flour 1.5 tsp salt 1.5 tbsp. beds of sugar 370 ml of water 1.5 tbsp. lodges rast. butter Crust dark bread XL program basic fast (time 2 hours) A glass and spoons of CP, flour strictly by weight. (if it doesn’t work, then it’s definitely a breakdown)

I changed the flour to "Pyshechka" (there was no Makfa), changed the yeast, put on plain bread (only slightly reduced the amount of salt, sugar, yeast and butter - I had already baked this recipe at first). 39 minutes before the end of the program - it smells burnt (((((I'm waiting for the result ...

It can smell burnt due to the fact that, when kneading, the flour dusted, got on the heating element and now burns out. Maybe something else was splashing. Don't panic ahead of time.

Don't panic ahead of time.

I won't))) I'm waiting ... I hope that the pick will work this time ... When programming, everything squeaked))

I report: the squeaker did not work, the bread did not rise, the roof was torn, and in one place it was slightly burnt.
Here is a photo:

[Venus]

Venus, and in the process of kneading did not look into the stove at all? In my opinion: there is not enough liquid and something sweet is concentrated in the corner. I try to control how it gets in the way and what kind of bun, but there are also punctures.
How much is the stove in use, can I contact the Service?

[marinastom]

marinastom, no, I haven't looked in ... I have a stove in operation for a couple of months, but I already bought it second-hand ... The first few breads turned out to be perfect, then every other time they were flattened like that ... Sweet - in the sense of sugar? Maybe ... in this recipe, sugar is immediately poured onto the yeast ...

When it cools down, I'll try to reset the settings, as advised above. Now, for some reason, it did not work out - all the icons on the display are not displayed ... The pick test was carried out - it beeps.

[venbi]

venbi, the order of laying products does not depend on the recipe, it depends only on the bread machine itself.

[vedmacck]

vedmacck, I was told that as it is written, in that order and you need to lay) Eh, live a century - learn a century, you will die a fool)

It seems to me that sugar is immediately used for yeast, somehow not very much. Moreover, if the yeast is soft. It immediately turns into jelly, and even flour. So it didn't mess in the corner. We must not be afraid to open the lid and see how it gets in the way. If anything, gently help with a silicone spatula.
And the order of the bookmark in our stove, yes, it is different and not casual.

It seems to me that sugar is immediately used for yeast, somehow not very much. Moreover, if the yeast is soft.

I put dry yeast.

P.S. And the crumb turned out to be normal, not wet, not dry.

[venbi]

venbi, and the crumb in the middle is slightly greenish, is this how the photo conveys? And I bookmark the food as it is written in the recipe, and sometimes I look after the bun, but more often I put bread on the night, so I put everything in order and weigh it on the scales, but I never tore the roof like that.

[natali3279]

and the crumb in the middle is a little greenish, is this how the photo conveys?

natali3279, no, the color of the crumb is even, white. This is a photo from a phone, well, and the lighting ...
It's just the last times I've been tearing the roof off and it rises to half ... And it doesn't give a signal about the end, too much (((

[nothing happens at all]

Turn on the stove, then simultaneously press "menu" + "crust color" + "start"
The display shows ALL symbols

It does not respond to the simultaneous pressing of these keys ... That is nothing happens at all(((((All characters are not displayed, only the program that was last.

Please advise, a good service center in Moscow ...

Maxim, make the link inactive.

You're welcome! But why?

no, I didn’t look

On the face of a clear impurity and lack of fluid! I sometimes help with a stick from the sushi - I clean off the flour from the corners during the initial kneading.This happens when you fall asleep, and the flour below is unevenly distributed and water reaches the bottom + even if the program is started after everything is loaded ... it stands motionless for a long time. I usually turn on the program and start weighing and pouring everything. (while temperature equalization is in progress)
DUSTS: If the bucket is in the stove when loading the ingredients, then (as a rule) it will smell burnt. It also happens when kneading flour at the first revolutions it becomes dusty (uneven distribution of flour over the bucket) and falls on the ten.
PyPySy:

It does not respond to pressing these keys at the same time ...

We plug it in, then press the stop (just in case), then put the fingers on the desired ones (menu + crust color + start) and press SIMULTANEOUSLY. We do not poke quickly, but normally press until a clear fixation (I also did not succeed the first time)
PyPyPySy: Burbot is now some kind of bad! (I was already going to spawn - they were badly caught) Pecks from dawn to 12 and from 3-4 pm to 9 pm ... at night it DOESN'T!

But why?

the forum was made by a woman and wrote the rules too, they have a club here - as a man inserts an active link, so no, no, but as every first woman posts active links here, so no reaction.