VikaZ
Can you please tell me if the PANASONIC SD-ZB2512KTS bread machine model is worth buying or is there something better?
It's just that the price of bread makers is high, I want to buy, even if not once and for all, but so that it will please for many years and not let down ... I want to bake bread every day and finally refuse from the purchased one, I was advised to choose a model from PANASONIC, in terms of functions and design, I liked the PANASONIC SD-ZB2512KTS model, the price is really high, so I want not to be mistaken with the choice.
Kara
Victoria, we have a huge review with detailed discussions of bread machine models HERE

It is clear that you may have no time or laziness to delve into a large amount of information, but no one will give you an unambiguous answer "yes" or "no", because everyone has different needs, requirements and wishes for the unit. Do not consider it difficult to study the topic, the link to which I gave, this will allow you to form a personal opinion and acquire an assistant based on your priorities.
VikaZ
Thank you very much, I went to study!))
Kara
Link corrected
AlenaDS
Better than Panasonic, who was the first to come up with a bread maker in general (read Wikipedia, the invention of a Panasonic bread machine), no. I have a Panas 2502, I will also buy 2512 for the "stash". This is not even a bread maker, but an automatic bakery. It's clear that everyone praises their own. But two years ago, when I was wooling the entire Internet in search of the best one, I have never regretted in two years that I bought it! 2512 is the same 2502. Only with two more programs added. Full automatic machine. Like a washing machine, I loaded it and just got it out and hung up the laundry. So is Panasonic 2512. Take it, just buy the scales right away. Panasonic loves precision. Plus or minus 25 gr.
Kara
You see, but I think that there is nothing better than Kenwooda! And I think after comparison with the aforementioned Panasonic (friends at the dacha had heaven and earth in it!) That is why I advised the author of the topic to make up my own opinion, because each sandpiper praises his swamp

Quote: AlenaDS

Full automatic machine. Like a washing machine, I loaded it and just got it out and hung up the laundry. So is the Panasonic 2512.B

But this statement is ridiculous))) For ALL modern bread makers work according to this principle
VikaZ
Thank you, I read and study, while there are a couple of weeks before the salary, I will just study everything!))
Taia
Quote: Kara
there is nothing better than Kenwooda! And I think after comparison with the aforementioned Panasonic (friends at the dacha baked heaven and earth in it!)

What are the advantages? When there is an opportunity to compare, that's after all.
AlenaDS
Girls, maybe other xb work like that, but I have something to compare with, take my word for it. Kenwood was not the best opinion. Probably there is a percentage of defects in every brand. For information about Panasonic:
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AlenaDS
Quote: Kara

You see, but I think that there is nothing better than Kenwooda! And I think after comparison with the aforementioned Panasonic (friends at the dacha had heaven and earth in it!) That is why I advised the author of the topic to make up my own opinion, because each sandpiper praises his swamp

But this statement is ridiculous))) For ALL modern bread makers work according to this principle
about the swamp, I would be more polite on the forum. "I just give a person information that you can skip on the Internet stream. Before buying any household appliance, and this is not for one day, the more you know about the brand from all sides and can compare with other brands the better.
Kara
AlenaDS, nobody is going to argue with you! We have here not a stream of the Internet, but a community of people who share their experience on the use of specific devices, and not excerpts from Wikipedia. I gave the link to these reviews in my first message.
And "every sandpiper praises his swamp" - this is a Russian proverb, if you did not know!
quince
For balance. I have both Kenwood 450 and Panasonic 257. I have been in close contact with them for more than one or three years. My personal opinion based on my personal experience: Kenwood did not stand next to Panasonic, Panas kneads better, and melts better, and bakes better. It is Panas who will draw out not exactly weighed ingredients into tolerable baked (!) Bread. The percentage of defective bread (unsuccessful loaves) in Kenwood is 10-12%, in Panasonic no more than 1-2%. By the way, that's why I sell the Kenwood oven, and I love the worn-out and repaired Panasonic and lick my lips towards the 2512 model
Kara
For almost 5 years of use, my bread in Kenwood did not work out once, when I forgot to put a spatula in a bucket at night. The rest are all handsome as one (you can see in my recipes). By the way, I measure the ingredients by eye. Again, I will not argue, each HP is good in its own way, and each model has its own fans.
AlenaDS
girls! I posted a photo for you, I share my joy (just add 2512 to "my technique" will not work, not yet in the list of this model on the forum. On Monday I will also be with this stove. I will unload my 2502. And then I knead the dough, and I bake bread, and my family is big. In two years my 2502 traveled to several former Soviet republics. I always helped out even with the worst flour, bread rose. I also take because when Easter, and the cake needs to be baked, it will be more convenient in two than in one. And the family is big. You can immediately put Borodinsky in one, and a white brick in another. I post a photo of cupcakes and a small bread. Previous photos were: large bread, made of dark varieties of flour, and a cupcake, only without sprinkling.I want to buy a Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS bread maker, should I buy it or not? I want to buy a Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS bread maker, should I buy it or not? I want to buy a Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS bread maker, should I buy it or not? Asked whether it is worth buying? As for me, it's worth it! And then the right to choose.
Vladimir-K
I will allow myself to interfere a little in your feminine dispute ... First, if anyone has not read it, read Osadov's gorgeous poem - "Love, treason and a sorcerer", this is a preface. I already wrote that on December 30 I bought a Panasonic 2512, and for the New Year they ate sandwiches with white bread from it! They didn't buy any bread or rolls for the whole January, yesterday I loaded a white bread again for the night and this morning I received:
I want to buy a Panasonic SD-ZB2512KTS bread maker, should I buy it or not?
And, if specifically on a dispute, I can add, as an engineer and a person who loves technology and knows how to repair it, that I read a sea of ​​reviews on many companies, and in particular Kenwood with Panasonic, drew attention to the Yandex market for reviews on Kenwood and Panasonic:
Kenwood 450 - 130 (of which 95 are excellent and 8 are bad)
Panasonic 2501 - 237 (200 excellent and 9 bad)
Panasonic 2502 - 170 (130 excellent and 6 bad)
I will not draw many conclusions, make them yourself, at least according to the number of reviews, including excellent and bad! So the use of Panasonic turns out to be higher not only in comparison with Kenwood, but among all stoves, no model has more than 200 reviews like Panasonic 2501, and 2502 (which is almost 2512) !!! Yes, everything bakes stoves and many are not bad, but their reliability ... And the last thing, many Panasonic have been working for 5-7 years, but many Kenwoods even after 3 years bend! One of the vulnerabilities in the stoves is the bucket, the quality of its coating and the reliability with the durability of the oil seal in it, think about what temperature it keeps there and because, how much and what kind of material can not let the liquid through there ........ ...
Happy choice and purchase to everyone !!!
AlenaDS
Vladimir-K! Congratulations on your purchase of a home assistant and hard worker! I don't argue with anyone. I share my experience. I bake two or three times a day, my family is big. For two and a half years, so every day. Now with two HB Panasonic it is much easier. The bucket never (pah-pah!) Leaked. Although often (as recommended) I leave water in the bucket so that the scapula will sour after baking. But no more than half an hour or an hour. There is an official representative of Panasonic Plaza where you can, if you wish, buy the entire mechanism assembly. Bucket.Which I did, just in case. In reserve. Given the rise in prices. If there is such a need, I will stop again only on the Panasonic bread maker. On the Yandex market, including, there are my positive reviews about Panasonic bread makers.

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