sunny-elena
Hello! I read the forum for several days, but unfortunately, I could not find the answer (I think there is an answer somewhere, but I did not look for it). Help me please! The question is: I want to buy HP (I have never used it before) mainly for baking yeast-free bread. As far as I understood, there is no such regime in any CP. In any case, you will have to be introduced into the process. For some reason (mainly the price-quality ratio of the brand) I settled on the HP Panasonic 2500. Where can I find Full description from making sourdough (I plan to do it with hops) to taking out the finished bread from the oven? I would be very grateful for your help!
sunny-elena
sazalexter, thanks for the answer and recipes! I would also like to ask the owners of 2500 - does anyone bake yeast-free bread on this HP?
sazalexter
Quote: sunny-elena
yeast-free bread?
These are tortillas, chapatis, matza, Armenian lavash, soda cake, everything else contains yeast! No HP bakes cakes!
sunny-elena
sazalextermaybe I'm saying it wrong (sorry). I am interested in bread without the use of yeast, but instead of them (as far as I understand), different leavens are added. So I ask the owners of HP 2500 - does anyone bake sourdough bread in it instead of yeast?
Elena8
Lena, I used to bake sourdough bread in Panasonic 2500 quite often. On the Pizza mode, knead the sourdough dough (I had rye sourdough) and let it stand in the bread maker until it increases 2-3 times, then turn on the "Baking" mode. That's all.
teira
Good afternoon) Take me to the ranks, on Tuesday I brought my beauty home and bought 2502 (out of three models I had to overpay for appearance). Now the fifth piece of bread in KhP stands for its own favorite rye.
I tried bread from several varieties of flour according to the book (wheat, whole grain, rye whole grain, corn, with oat with bran on the main (such a crust mmm), egg on the main one (my guys really liked it, I don't like white), rye for 07 (a little I went out a little damp and slightly overdid it with honey), yesterday I made awesome baking with poppy seeds.
Before buying, my husband said: "Do you want to buy, you know, I am still not a supporter of experiments, I will still buy loaves" ...
Half of the purchased loaf, bought on Monday before the appearance of HP, threw it out yesterday)))) In the evening I baked buns for the morning, after breakfast with milk and awesome baking, I asked to bake "something like a bar")))).
I want to say THANK YOU for the recipes, advice, for the forum.
Can you please tell me to bake something like a loaf do you need a recipe for milk bread to use? I watched the topic about a loaf in accordance with GOST y, but did not quite understand how to recalculate for our stove, and mode 01?
sazalexter
teira, Baton during stagnation https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1016.0
1.75 tsp dry yeast
- 500 grams of wheat flour
- 1.5 tbsp. l. Sahara
- 1.2 tsp. salt (in my case sea salt)
- 40 grams of butter
- 260 ml of water
mode 01 (main)
teira
Quote: sazalexter

teira, Baton during stagnation https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1016.0
1.75 tsp dry yeast
- 500 grams of wheat flour
- 1.5 tbsp. l. Sahara
- 1.2 tsp. salt (in my case sea salt)
- 40 grams of butter
- 260 ml of water
mode 01 (main)
Thank you)) For the quick answer, I did not expect it, so I went again to read the topic carefully and found the same thing. After my bread, I'll immediately put a bar!
Geepas
Hello dear forum users. Please help with the choice of a bread machine. I have not found a mention of Panasonic SD-2510WTS anywhere in the forum, maybe this is a completely new model? What is the difference between 2101 and 2110? Which model is better to take? A search on the Internet did not return any results either.
Wit
It is difficult to find a black cat in a dark room. Especially if she's not there. It just doesn't exist. The numbers are confused. Apparently, it meant HP, Panasonic SD-2501.
Did you rip off this "model" from here?
"Selling Panasonic SD-2510 wts bread machine.
Description here: 🔗 ... 01wts.html
89203448284 Irina "

And this friend gave the link to the Panasonic SD-2501. You can check.

Decipher this figure in detail: 2101 and 2110... And then Yandex displays this: Shock absorber VAZ-2110 rear (Autotechnik) SD05011 - Suspension and wheels and completely ignores bread makers with such a figure.
lega
Quote: Wit
It just doesn't exist. The numbers are confused. Apparently, it meant HP, Panasonic SD-2501.
Vit, I'm sorry, but you're wrong ... There are already new ones - 2510, 2511 and 2512. Panasonic's official website - 🔗 Personally, I did not notice a big difference from 2500, 2501 and 2502.
In the descriptions in the outlets there are slight differences in the size, weight of the CPs themselves and in the country of origin, but perhaps this is just different accuracy of marketers. For example, in the M-video, the manufacturer indicates China for the old models, and Malaysia for the new models.
🔗 Vit, try to compare. I did not see a fundamental difference with the old models. Perhaps Panasonic expanded a little and just opened another production. Or maybe he just moved to another country ... For us, I think there is no fundamental difference.

And to a friend Geepas I would advise you to take the old model - the same, but much cheaper.
sazalexter
SD 2510, 2511 and 2512 types are new models and are being produced and sold so far for the CIS countries (Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus) on any site other than Russia these models are not!
Wit
I apologize. I did not go to the Panasonic website. The market did not even hint at a quick sale. Yandex just ignored the request and dumped the old models. So much for "There is everything!" Talkers ... I'm changing Yandex to googol.
Geepas
I thought I could take a newer model, but I did not see any difference, especially as I understand there is no automatic dispenser as in 2101.
For the price it turns out the same, due to the fact that 2101 is only in Eldorado, and 2110 in mvideo, where I have a 20% discount.
Well then, I'd better take the proven model 2101 or 2102. Here .. now again in doubt .. which is better to take ..
lega
Quote: Geepas
2101
Do you accidentally write 2101, confusing it with 2501? Or how? We do not know models with numbers 2101, 2102, 2110 at all.
Geepas
Yes, yes .. I'm sorry, I wanted to write 2501
Wit
I noticed the difference, One program more than 2500. And then ... the SQUARE form (which I doubt very much). And somewhere it flashed that there is a program of LOW yeast dough. Alas, I don’t know what it is. And also a removable cover. Someone may need it Better to touch it in the store. But the price is 2000 more expensive. For what? By the way, on the site of Panas, the opposite is true - the price is 100 rubles lower than that of 2500. And the information there is outrageous with gulkin ... I did not look at other numbers. In my opinion, there are no fundamental changes. Nalchik, of course, is not Peter. And if I choose from two stores, then I would choose M-video, even without a discount. I didn't quite understand what "proven" means. I mean, a new model? Of course, 2500 has already been tested and the reviews are good. As for the automatic dispenser, then ... well, they'll shower you with slippers. I recommend that you check their work right in the store. You pay a lot of money and have the right to take a hassle-free device. The thing is, these dispensers work ... well, not completely silent. Some have. Although it is tolerable and the alarm in the car on the streets does not catch. Many owners write that they click quietly. And for some, it is generally noiseless, that is, they do not open at all. In the evening, the owners of 2501 and 2502 will come up and advise. I have 2500 so
Good luck!
irman
In 2501, the dispensary works only on 4 programs, when you need to make baked goods with additives (for example, with raisins).
Wit
Quote: Irman
In 2501, the dispensary works only on 4 programs,
Thanks, I'll fix it now!
Ninelle
Wit, both dispensers are not deadly loud. I just like their presence.
Wit
So I don’t mind! But others have complained. Unlucky people.
Ninelle
Am I understanding everything correctly? Is the new model under discussion? I didn't see it on the Panas website, is the bucket square?
Ninelle
and how does 2512 differ from 2502? Low-yeast bread?
Wit
Anyone who wrote about a square bucket, perhaps at that moment was thinking about Malevich. Finally, it says there -
"Detachable form ............. Yes
Square baking dish ... Yes "

What does this mean ...
Intrigued me more
"Cap
Removable cover .... Yes "
Wit
Ninelechka! And the dog knows him! I didn't look further.
Ninelle
Well ... aerogrills have removable, not hinged lids. Can the same thing?
Ninelle
Wit, okay. I was glad to "see and chat", my name is demic. I will crawl to fit.
Wit
If so, the number of sales will increase. Many do not take it due to the fact that the lid on the kitchen table cannot be opened, since the wall cabinet interferes. Woo, how!
Geepas
Wit, Well, I have a discount in Mvideo, and only the new 2510 model is available there. And the 2501 model is available only in Eldorado.
As a result, it turns out that I can buy a new model for the same price as the 2501.
But here I am in confusion, should I take it or is it better to stay with the old proven 2501 model?

I went now to the official website of Panasonic, and there 2501 is more expensive by 1200 rubles ... well, now I'm completely confused
Wit
Ninelle
Geepas, I would take a new model, in Eldorado I just do not risk buying, there was a sad experience of acquiring a computer ... Panasonic is not an underground firm of unknown origin, therefore the new product is unlikely to be a dark horse. At the time of the purchase of my bread machine, it seems the 2502 was a new model, and it perfectly bakes recipes for two hundred series.
Ninelle
Wit, do not be mischievous, red-haired cat, you understood everything. Confuse you like a thirst. Explain to the person what and how and for what, as explained to me. Is it a pity?
Wit
Quote: Ninelle
Geepas, I would take a new model, in Eldorado I just do not risk buying, there was a sad experience
Gold words! Me too. And to this day this shop is called Lohorado. But maybe you have decent people working there in Nalchik.
Ninelle
Wit, in Pyatigorsk, a scam, in Moscow too, you found out that in St. Petersburg too, I doubt that in Nalchik it’s better.
Wit
Yes, me too.
Ninelle
If you look at the prices on the Panasov site, I’m lost ... mine is more expensive than new models ?!
Wit
Duc razi understand them? What they want is what they do. Prices fluctuate from time to time.
Geepas
And I thought only here in Eldorado this happens in general, I try not to buy there, mostly only in mvideo.
The new model is certainly good, but I do not see any advantages .. there is not even a dispensary.

In general, you need to decide today what to take, since tomorrow is the last day of discounts.
Wit
Quote: Geepas
The new model is certainly good, but I don't see any advantages
You're right. Although I do not consider having this bells and whistles an advantage. On the previous page, they already wrote that it is needed in 4 cases. If I need to use any of these cases, I just throw in with my hands at the signal of HP (beeps). And the raisins do not stick to your hands, but go straight into the dough. Here they already wrote how they baked bread with raisins. Oh, it's not good to laugh. But it was funny after all! The dispenser slammed, everything is a plane! They take out the bread, cut it, and the raisins are NEMA !!! The grief! Who slammed ?! Direct their HP. Yes, no one. Just the raisins fell out. It happens...
I mean, take the one to which the soul lies. Or wait for a ride with a dispenser. I think soon. Good luck to you!
Irishka CH
Wit, well, fatite is already 2501 to find fault, eh? Or rather, an entot dispenser! Well, I have it! And I bought it in Eldorado! And, by the way, I am "friends" with Eldorado. I don’t know, maybe in Ivanovo I come across honest consultants and normal goods?
And they have already asked about these new HPs. I didn't even understand much of the difference either. And the prices are somehow incomprehensible. Well, I would definitely take the same 2501 again !!!
Wit
More nabudu
Irishka CH
Aha! slippers scared?
Wit
Geepas
Thank you all very much for your help, I will think)
I was already going to take Mulinex, but Thank God I came across this forum and firmly decided for myself - only Panasonic! :)
Wit
Good luck and we are waiting for you with a report on the first bread! Don't forget to buy electronic scales.
Ninelle
Wit, Do not throw your slippers, at me. Absolutely out of the blue, the non-stick coating began to come off the spatula. Probably need to buy new ones .. yes? do they seem to exist?
Wit
Woo, how !!!!!!! Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The main thing was to take good care of her! I washed it carefully. I decided that figs with him, let him go. Now, if it starts to get stuck in bread, then I'll buy a new one. Yes, they are on sale and when they called the price here. I'll joke around.
Here is: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=911.180 This problem has long been no longer current with you and me.
Paw, calm down and knead further. : rose: The Blade Guru allows it. And I categorically refuse to pay 950 rubles for such a piece of hardware.
Ninelle
Wit, but what about the colossal harm?
marinastom
NinelleWhat harm is aluminum that is coated?
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