zit
Tell me how you can bake rye bread in SD-254! I'd like to try it!
Boo Boo
My neighbors in the country have such a stove. I recently helped them bake rye bread.
First on the pizza mode. Then one hour proofing and baking for one hour.
zit
and use any recipe for rye bread using this method. Or is everything learned by trial and error?
Ellka
Rye bread in Panasonic SD-254, 256, 2500Rye bread "It's very simple" in a bread maker
(Elena Bo)


I always use this recipe.
Kneading in dumplings mode, proofing for about 1.5 hours and baking for 60 minutes.
Boo Boo
I think anyone can. Over time, you will find the one that will taste just for you. Here is a Temka about my troubles. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...mf&Itemid=99&topic=3410.0
LaraN
Quote: zit

Tell me how you can bake rye bread in SD-254! I'd like to try it!
You can first knead in the Pelmeni mode, then turn on the Diet Fast program. After kneading on Dietichesky, you need to remove the mixer so that the dough does not crumple.
I did that.
Look at Temka

Rye in a bread maker, if there is no such function
Blond
Quote: Ellka

Rye bread in Panasonic SD-254, 256, 2500Rye bread "It's very simple" in a bread maker
(Elena Bo)


I always use this recipe.
Kneading in dumplings mode, proofing for about 1.5 hours and baking for 60 minutes.

I see everyone's black lid sags slightly. I thought it was just me so wrong ...
Ellka
the roof of rye bread is less convex than that of wheat bread, but it should not sag. If it subsides, then the water-flour ratio is violated, there is too much water.
Blond
Quote: Ellka

the roof of rye bread is less convex than that of wheat bread, but it should not sag. If it subsides, then the water-flour ratio is violated, there is too much water.
I checked, it sags slightly.
It rises normally, and after the start of baking, a large bubble appears under the lid and it sags.
I had to fight this - the recipe indicated 430 grams of water, now it has increased to 300. Bread has become possible to give children to school for sandwiches (does not fall apart) - it has become denser.
Pakat
Try to do one more workout, the time of the last standing was divided
about 1: 2 should help ...
Blond
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Try to do one more workout, the time of the last standing was divided
about 1: 2 should help ...
I apologize for my "greenness".
From now on, if possible, a little more detail. I'm not strong with terminology yet ...
What is "kneading", how does it differ from kneading, how to divide its time in a ratio of 1: 2.
Now I either use a special program "rye bread" or knead using the "pizza dough" program (stirring for 10 minutes, raising for 10, stirring for 10, lifting for 10), then 1.5 hours of idle time (manual mode), then - an hour of baking ( manual mode).
Pakat
Kneading - short-term stirring of the dough in order to get rid of excess carbon dioxide. In my car it is 10 - 20 seconds ...
The last stand is 1.5 hours, divided by two: 30 minutes, then kneading and stand before baking for 1 hour ... Good luck!
Olla
Happy New Year! Delicious bread to all! I have such a New Year problem: my son gave me a Panasonic CD-254 bread maker. I was going to buy it for a long time, but he made me a surprise. If I had chosen it myself, I would have taken the CD-255, I simply did not consider the other. Now, instead of the joy of our own bread for the holidays, there is one torment by the question: to exchange - not to exchange? That is why I am afraid to use it (to be accepted in exchange). I sit near the bread machine and worry. ... I thought it might do - I can do without a window (although I decided to bake with my additives only because of the opportunity). Without automation, I will always allow the moment ..But I read the instructions: "Program for baking rye bread" - only for the 255th model! And what, the 254th will not bake RYE bread? Sorry for the "dummy" question, I'm not a specialist, but I don't want to start with the wrong choice.
If you answer quickly, maybe we'll even celebrate with our own bread, thanks in advance!
Kosha
You can bake rye without this function, as Lenusya already said.

Some do not use the dispenser.
Regarding the exchange ... If it takes a lot of time and effort, then just estimate that it will be easier for you to adapt to the 254th stove or change it to the 255th.

My opinion: things should be fun.
Olla
"Things should be fun" - golden words! Thank you very much, I want to ask you along the way: I decided to "adapt" to it, and for a start I just began to collect and understand how it works. And then I installed the BLADE in the bucket (the instructions say - hard to plant), and she - dangles! Backlash of 30 degrees, not less, and also from bottom to bottom almost 5mm (not less than 4). Is it correct?
Kosha
Quote: Olla

"Things should be fun" - golden words! Thank you very much, I want to ask you along the way: I decided to "adapt" to it, and for a start I just began to collect and understand how it works. And then I installed the BLADE in the bucket (the instructions say - hard to plant), and she - dangles! Backlash of 30 degrees, not less, and also from bottom to bottom almost 5mm (not less than 4). Is it correct?

The 255th also has a backlash. I think it's ok
Cake
Let me also speak On a visit, when we celebrated the New Year. the hostess gave the owner 254 model (that's right!). Sort me out. I studied all the instructions, then got into the unit itself. What can I say? Made with dignity! Window, say no? Why do you need it ?! People on the forum are covering it up with foil so that the dome will be tanned! Very little is visible through it, so the lid is still opened and the batch is controlled.
The storage compartment for a spoon amused me in 255
Autodispenser ... well, yes, autodispenser ... Here is a stumbling block here ... Do you need it or not ... There is even a separate branch here, "Do you really need a dispenser?" And, you know, most agree that it is "useful, but not essential"
Immediately one more question ... This is a gift from my son. Yes? This is many times more valuable than a dispenser! It will be unpleasant for him that you went, changed, therefore he did not please .... Maybe you should leave a GIFT OF A SON? And then the expression "Things should bring pleasure" will be filled with a completely special meaning!
Cake
Regarding the rye in the 254th. I was looking for an answer to this question on the forum. In the instructions, look, the mode is strange, the batch is only 10 minutes ...
I understood this way: You need to set the "pelmeni" program, kneading the dough for 20 minutes. Then leave the HP off for about an hour so that the dough comes up (without kneading), and then turn on the baking program for an hour. Friends made rye according to this recommendation, they are VERY happy with the result !!! So even if you have 255, you most likely will not do rye in this mode.
Olla
I really appreciate that you answer right away, so the backlash is not a defect? (according to the instructions - "hard to attach", but I just fall on the rod ...). By virtue of my health, I was determined to recharge, and no longer be puzzled when to support and even more so to guard this bread maker ...
Admin
Quote: Olla

By virtue of my health, I was determined to recharge, and no longer be puzzled when to support and even more so to guard this bread maker ...

Then you were cruelly wrong

You need control over dough and bread and an indispensable condition - to put your soul into it

To get started, read here:

UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD
Olla
An absolutely wonderful link, it will definitely come in handy if not for me, then for my son and especially his bride, thank you very much! A real gift for the New Year, dear Stranger ..
Kapet
Quote: Admin

Then you were cruelly wrong

You need control over dough and bread and an indispensable condition - to put your soul into it

To get started, read here:

UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD
Olla, calm down and absolutely do not worry about this - you are not mistaken!
And all because after two or three months you will have accumulated a limited list of your favorite bread recipes, which will be to your liking and taste to you and your loved ones, and which (recipes) will be worked out in such a way that there will be no need to control the bun , investment of the soul and other shamanism - your Panasonic will perfectly cope with its task, day and night, to knead a standard kolobok and invest your electronic-mechanical soul within a considerable amount spent on acquiring this miracle. That's why you purchased a bread maker, proudly called automatic for a reason. If I had read four months ago that it is imperative that dough and bread require control and an indispensable condition - to put your soul into it, I would, frankly, hardly buy a bread maker. And after buying it, I eat exceptionally delicious various homemade bread, not bothering too much about what happens in HP after pressing the Start / Stop button. True, the basis for such "bakery sloppiness" is the acquired skills and experience, acquaintance with the invaluable information on this forum, and necessarily somewhere out there a sixth sense.
However, an indispensable condition for the repeatability of your baking masterpieces will be the use of proven, consistently used quality bread components with a predictable result, temperature and humidity of the room and components, the voltage level in your 220V network and no draft. In this case, spit it out and forget about control, kolobok and shamanism.
But, of course, in the case of using a new recipe, using other flour, yeast, and other components, here you shouldn't rely on Panasonic's intellect alone, and, indeed, as our esteemed master writes, control of the kolobok is required, which the master perfectly and thoroughly described in the relevant sections of the forum. Well, and, of course, prayers, spells, dancing with a tambourine or a glass of vodka will not interfere here at all (nor will they help) at all - if only there is no draft.
Olla
Bon Appetit!
Bread Pete
Quote: Olla
And what, the 254th will not bake RYE bread? Sorry for the "dummy" question, I'm not a specialist, but I don't want to start with the wrong choice.
Olla, your son made you a great gift. I have exactly the same model and bake rye bread perfectly. Try my recipe from here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=144.1335 (there is a photo for those in doubt)

Regarding the backlash of the blade. Yes, it dangles very much. But this is apparently intended. But (and maybe that's why) it almost never remains in bread. Unlike, for example, the LV, which I had before, there, on the contrary, the scapula almost always had to be picked out of the loaf.
LaScala
I'm off topic, but on topic

Does the 254 have a start delay like the 255?

Thank you.
Bread Pete
Quote: LaScala

Does the 254 have a start delay like the 255?

There is.
LaScala
Thank you!

p. from. nickname cool
Lanca
And my question is this. what is the load on the motor in model 254? rye only because of this while I'm afraid to bake
Aglo
Motor in Panasonic is rather weak. The steep dough interferes with difficulty, almost stopping.
Therefore, in my rye, the ratio of rye flour to wheat flour is 1-1.2 st.: 2 st. I take liquids within 300ml. I bake on the Basic mode.
The bread turns out to be fluffy, airy - we like that.
Lanca
Quote: Aglo

Motor in Panasonic is rather weak. The steep dough interferes with difficulty, almost stopping.
Therefore, in my rye, the ratio of rye flour to wheat flour is 1-1.2 st.: 2 st. I take liquids within 300ml. I bake on the Basic mode.
The bread turns out fluffy, airy - we like that.
Thank you so much! that is, as I understand it, you can take 1 share of rye flour and 2 shares of wheat?
Aglo
You got it right. You can painlessly and 1.5 tbsp. rye and 2 tbsp. wheat, choosing the amount of liquid so that the dough is not too steep.
Lanca
Quote: Ellka

Rye bread in Panasonic SD-254, 256, 2500Rye bread "It's very simple" in a bread maker
(Elena Bo)


I always use this recipe.
Kneading in dumplings mode, proofing for about 1.5 hours and baking for 60 minutes.
proofing - does it mean after the program "dumplings" just turn off HP and let it rest "for 1.5 hours, and then turn on baking?
Aglo
It's like that.
Vanya28
Panasonic CD-254 and rye bread, it's very simple.
Read here:
Rye bread in Panasonic SD-254, 256, 2500Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives
(Vanya28)

and here:
Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives # 6

In gratitude, we put a plus in reputation.
lkjhg
And how to enable baking separately in sd 254?
sazalexter
Quote: lkjhg

And how to enable baking separately in sd 254?
Start-stop 2 seconds will give a signal, the display will go out, if the program was running, then Program choose
Bakery productsthen timer set the time, then Start-stop Launch HP!
lkjhg
sazalexter

Thank you! I will try
Vanya28
There is nothing easier than baking bread with pure rye flour in this bread maker.
We read, rejoice and do not forget about gratitude. We write comments.
Rye bread in Panasonic SD-254, 256, 2500Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives
(Vanya28)
ulia0306
Tell a newbie, I have a Panasonic 256. Is it possible to buy a shovel for rye bread from model 257 and knead rye bread with it? Will it fit my stove?
Vanya28
Quote: ulia0306

Tell a newbie, I have a Panasonic 256. Is it possible to buy a shovel for rye bread from model 257 and knead rye bread with it? Will it fit my stove?
A spatula will work, but you don't have to buy it.
The dough is also mixed with an ordinary spatula.
For pure rye dough, you will have to help mixing with any spatula.
You can find a video of kneading rye dough here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9345.msg94252
ulia0306
Thank you!
Davli
people, but no one wondered how to flash the 256th program from the 257th. after all, the difference is, by and large, only an automatic dispenser. I think there is only one chip and having flashed the firmware from the 257th arrow should stop on an empty line, where the 257th has "rye bread". there are no technicians familiar to study this issue ???
sazalexter
Davli No, no, I hardly found a service manual, there is
Davli
sorry, I also have no good channels to our orbit-service now. so that they can look at the board in the 256th and 257th and compare. if the chips and mikruhi are the same, then you can definitely sew a program from the 257th. of the minuses, let's say on bread with raisins, it will not squeak, but try to pour it myself ... but a full-fledged rye bread program!
Tamtur
sorry for the repost
Condensed milk
Can! If the weight is 500g, then the HP kneads and I help with a silicone spatula. And if the weight is more, I knead it with my hands and then put it in a bucket for proofing and baking. We must adapt !!! Try it !!!

Here ...Rye custard bread is real (almost forgotten taste). Baking methods and additives.
Yulia
Oh, I'm interested too! And on what setting to bake rye bread? On the main one? And help with a spatula on the first batch or both?
Condensed milk
Kneading on the Pelmeni mode for 10 minutes, then turn off the oven, let it come up and bake on the Baking mode for 1h10min.
Tsvetlana
Please write how long to give the lifting test?

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