obgorka_gu
Quote: julifera

Usyo understood, chief (chiefs) ..... not komilfo for this business

Well, the oven is huge, so in the airfryer some logic is logical - a smaller space is quite acceptable for 1 plate
As I understand it, the bias against microwaves? then, rather than AG, just for convenient heating, it is better to mini-bake 12 liters (IMHO) and it is also good for baking ...
dopleta
Quote: julifera

There are not many, but for now I use ...

About prejudice julifera... The microwave safety zone is 50 cm 🔗, for air grills, according to the Center for Electromagnetic Safety, this distance is as much as 1.4 meters (more than that of a refrigerator and TV) 🔗 ... In addition, we turn on the microwave for a few minutes, and the AG works for a long time.
natalka
Quote: dopleta

for airfryer, according to the Center for Electromagnetic Safety, this distance is as much as 1.4 meters (more than that of a refrigerator and TV)

How ?! They just killed! Previously, I did not think about the harmfulness-usefulness of the airfryer. Nothing caused unnecessary excitement, and now ....
zvezda
I do not know what kind of AG we are talking about harm ... probably halogen, but a simple heating element of radiation and harmfulness does not give AT ALL!!!! Well, imagine .... then ALL email. cookers, slow cookers, kettles would fall under this column !!!!! And I don’t love the microwave either !!!!!!
tatulja12
dopleta, and where is the microwave oven? If the heating elements are considered harmful, then it turns out that all email. devices should not be used.
julifera
Well, I once saw a miraculous oven - but in all external parameters it looked like a real airfryer, and so the heating in it was based on infrared radiation.
Then dad explained to me that it was not scary, and I did not dig deeper.

But in fact - what types of heating are there in airfryer?

1. Halogen
2. Teng
3. Infrared radiation
4. ??
natalka
And today I wondered what I got on the Internet. Personally, I saw such a thing for the first time.
Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)
Combines the functions of an airfryer, deep fat fryer and multicooker
Power - 1200 W
LCD display
Timer for 99 minutes
Halogen heating element
Removable 3L ceramic bowl
Stirring function during cooking
Includes double grate, removable stirrer, grab handle, measuring spoon
Automatic bowl rotation
Automatic shutdown of heating element and rotation function when opening the lid
Illumination during cooking
Audible alarm signaling the end of the cooking cycle
The multi-grill is easy to clean
Lack of "oil bath", "water condensate"
Production - Spain
Assembly - China
Cook

I wonder how much this miracle is worth?
natalka
I forgot to write the name "Ves Electric SK-A Multiaerogrill (aerogrill - multicooker)" as it is written in the online store. The price is around 5 thousand rubles.
dopleta
Quote: tatulja12

dopleta, and where is the microwave oven? If the heating elements are considered harmful, then it turns out that all email. devices should not be used.

We are talking about the harm of the magnetic field. And by the way, really:
Quote: zvezda

ALL email cookers, slow cookers, kettles would fall under this column !!!!!
And there is! It's just that all devices have a different range of this field. And a very strong field at the extension-splitter! Never place such a device near a sleeping place. I find it strange that someone might not know this in our time. They write and talk about this constantly.If you did not come across such literature, then believe me - one of the universities in which I studied is electrical communications.
Hairpin
Quote: julifera


But in fact - what types of heating are there in airfryer?

1. Halogen
2. Teng
3. Infrared radiation
4. ??

Halogen = infrared radiation. That is, heating solid surfaces. Air heating is carried out by means of heat transfer from these heated surfaces.

Above referred to as heating from the specular foil surface.
zvezda
I studied in Boncha ... this is so, for reference ... but what you write to Larissa ... then you have to turn off ALL electricity altogether ...

When an electric current passes through a conductor, a magnetic field is formed around it. A magnetic field is a type of matter. It possesses energy, which manifests itself in the form of electromagnetic forces acting on individual moving electric charges (electrons and ions) and on their streams, i.e., electric current. A magnetic field is formed only around moving electric charges, and its action also extends only to moving charges. Magnetic and electric fields are inseparable and together form a single electromagnetic field. Any change in the electric field leads to the appearance of a magnetic field and, conversely, any change in the magnetic field is accompanied by the appearance of an electric field ........... By the way, for reference ... the earth also has a magnetic field and it is protective !!! !!
dopleta
Quote: zvezda

I studied in Boncha ... this is so, for reference ... but what you write to Larissa ... then you have to turn off ALL electricity altogether ...
I am on "multichannel communication" at the "Perpendicular", and you? I hope you don’t think that I composed it myself for some reason, you know it? And she, instead of the aforementioned professors, conducted their research, wrote dissertations and books for them? Thanks for the excursion into the school curriculum, but there is not a word about the dangers of electromagnetic fields or about its absence ???.
Hairpin
Quote: dopleta

About prejudice julifera... The microwave safety zone is 50 cm 🔗, for air grills, according to the Center for Electromagnetic Safety, this distance is as much as 1.4 meters (more than that of a refrigerator and TV) 🔗 ... In addition, we turn on the microwave for a few minutes, and the AG works for a long time.

Dopplet, you have results from different sources. For objectivity, the results should be from one source ... I immediately drew attention to this ... Why does the Center for Electromagnetic Safety have no data on microwaves? If so, which one?
dopleta
Yes, because I was specifically looking for data on the dangers of these devices (this was after the broadcast on TV, when scientists walked with the devices in the kitchen, and the arrows of the devices were off scale), and these were the first sites that caught my eye. If there is other data, give them too here, to the heap. And by God, I can't understand why objective information, just posted for information, can be perceived by someone as a personal insult.
Hairpin
This potamu is like you and me ...

It just bothered me right away that one organization was publishing harm from microwaves. and the second - from the airfryer!

That's not all. Do you use electronic cigarettes? Well, there Pakat gave a link to the article by e-mail. Logic - hurt yourself. They say that the effect of electronic devices on the body is not fully understood, so they should be banned !!! But what we sell in stalls and cause lung cancer, then everything has been studied, and they are allowed !!!

As they say, that pays for dinner, that girl dances ...
dopleta
About electromagnetic fields. There is no need to look to the end, there is an advertisement for protective devices.


Here, too, is interesting.

tatulja12
dopleta, thanks for the info. But, as life shows, it is useless, because owning this info, you are unlikely to stop using your household email. devices, which you have very good. lot. So? So what's all the fuss about?
zvezda
Quote: dopleta

P.P.S. Olya, invited, but since.from my group no one expressed a desire to go (almost all left), then we met on the side.
We're on the side too ...
It is more convenient to warm up in a micr !!!!! And to cook in the AG !!!! let's live peacefully ...
Lanika
Quote: zvezda

MargoL Congratulations!!!!! You will not find a stand .... no problem !!! On the lower wire rack your chicken, max. temperature for 1 hour (per kg) into the bowl of the pallet-into it the beer and pour a little beer while cooking !!!!! ALL!!!!
I have a VES airfryer. When I poured a little warm, almost hot (but not boiling) water during cooking, a huge crack instantly appeared all over the bowl!
Although the instructions only say that the hot bowl cannot be washed in cold water.
I replaced the bowl (I bought an inexpensive airfryer and use the bowl from it in my VES), but now I'm afraid to add something ...
The bowls are sold separately in online stores in Moscow, 1500 rubles, plus 300 rubles - delivery in Moscow ...
Ryzha
Yesterday I tried my AG: potatoes on a baking sheet on the lower wire rack and 2 quarters one floor 3 cm higher on a high wire rack turned upside down. I couldn't put a high grate normally - I would have to put on a ring, otherwise the chicken would have rested on the heating element, and this would have increased the cooking time. And I really wanted to eat Prepared "by typing" 20 min. at 200C, then 2 more times for 10 minutes at 225C, that is, the next time it will be necessary immediately at 225-250C for 20 minutes.
I opened the lid several times to determine the degree of readiness, and immediately the question was: do I need to pull the cord out of the socket when you open the lid?
Tanyulya
Quote: Red


I opened the lid several times to determine the degree of readiness, and immediately the question was: do I need to unplug the cord when you open the lid?
The cord does not need to be pulled out. I lift the handle of my Hotter, open the lid, then in the reverse order and continue to cook.
Ryzha
Is it normal that condensation has collected at the bottom of the bowl?
Tanyulya
I think it's normal, it happens. When it cools down, condensation forms when the lid is closed.
Ryzha
Quote: Tanyulya

When it cools down, condensation forms when the lid is closed.
The fact of the matter is that when cooking. I sin on the fact that the lid was opened, there was air access from the outside. Maybe this influenced the formation of condensation?
Tanyulya
Quote: Red

The fact of the matter is that when cooking. I sin on the fact that the lid was opened, there was air access from the outside. Maybe this influenced the formation of condensation?
Sometimes I have such nonsense, I think it's not scary.
Hairpin
Condensation is moisture from the air that falls out when the partial pressure changes abruptly. That is, with a sharp temperature drop.
Examples.
1. The piping in the bathroom with cold water. The temperature in the bathroom is about 25 degrees, and the temperature of the water in the pipeline is 5 degrees. Therefore, it is covered with condensation.
2. We entered the store with glasses in the cold. The inside of my glasses was fogged up. The glass is still cold, and the air around is already warm.

What I mean. Are you sure this is condensation?
Ryzha
Quote: Hairpin

What I mean. Are you sure this is condensation?
I don’t know, but what then? If there are drops of water on the bottom of the bowl (not fat - 100%), on top are grates, baking sheets with food, and during the cooking process the lid was opened and the temperature increased?
Hairpin
An increase in temperature occurs simultaneously with a decrease relative humidity. That is, condensation can fall out when the airfryer is cooled. But when heated - no. This is not condensation.
Tanyulya
In my case, moisture at the bottom of the flask is formed if I take the diameter of the mold larger, i.e. free circulation of hot air is disturbed.
Ryzha
I'll try to cook something a couple more times, if it's the same, then I'll panic
Another question: is it necessary to warm up the AG before cooking?
Tanyulya
I can say for myself, I always warm up.
Hairpin
Quote: Red

Another question: is it necessary to warm up the AG before cooking?

This is not a question of operating the airfryer, but ... do we also warm up the oven first? It's the same with the airfryer.Heating is not necessary for the airfryer, but for what we put there.

But I don't heat up the airfryer or the oven if I put ceramics / glass there. For them, a sharp temperature drop is destructive ...
Ryzha
Quote: Red

I'll try to cook something a couple more times, if it's the same, then I'll panic
It's time to panic, yesterday I cooked baked potatoes - and again condensation, after 20 minutes a whole puddle came running. Therefore, today my AG went to the service center for repair
Ryzha
Quote: Red

Therefore, today my AG went to the service center for repair
The service center does not know whether condensation should collect inside the bowl or not, they ask what is written about this in the instructions - and there is not a word about condensate. Girls, this is already a cry from the heart - should there be condensation in the AG or not?
Giraffe
At the beginning of cooking, it happens to me, as it were, fogs up if the product is with high humidity. But then everything goes away. And so that there was a puddle at the bottom, in my opinion, is not normal ..
dopleta
Quote: Red

The service center does not know whether condensation should collect inside the bowl or not, they ask what is written about this in the instructions - and there is not a word about condensate. Girls, this is already a cry from the heart - should there be condensation in the AG or not?
Ryzhamaybe it's cold in your kitchen?
Ryzha
No, it's not cold. And before laying the food, I warmed up the AG.
Tanyulya
I already wrote earlier, I have condensation at the beginning of cooking, and if after cooking I leave the lid closed, and there is a finished product in the flask, then the same puddle turns out. Now I cook potatoes, in cubes, in a Teflon mold, at the bottom there is condensation, right almost under the mold, insignificant, but there is. AH I have more than 5 years old and there were no problems. I somehow do not pay attention to this condensate.
MOTRENA
I have a Brand 35129 airfryer, condensation also collects during cooking, I also thought it was bad, since I had it not long ago, but my husband reassured me saying that this is normal, because there is no place for moisture to go out, therefore condensation, so no get excited cook and have fun.
Ryzha
My husband is of the same opinion. But then the effect of a double boiler is obtained if water flows along the walls. On one of the sites I read: "The walls of the airfryer are transparent and, unlike a double boiler, do not fog up", and here, on the forum, no one has such an effect.
natalka
My walls fog up only after turning off the hypertension. In short, if she stopped cooking, she turned it off, but did not open the lid and pull out the cooked one.
pilin
I bought ae galloping gourmet about 7 years ago, maybe earlier, but for a long time already.
normal use, something on the stove, something in ae, something in the oven.
Not the most useless item in the kitchen (for example, a deep fryer, a double boiler is not used).
The most original dish prepared at the very beginning of operation -
transformation of a can of "raw" condensed milk into boiled milk.
In general, the bank burst quite powerfully. The walls and everything else was scrubbed for a long time
good wallpaper washable
Modified a little, unscrewed 3 bolts, removed the cover above the fan
(for some reason I thought that the less interference with the air, the faster the temperature in the bowl rises, probably relevant with an expansion ring), saving electricity as well. But such an operation should be done after the end of the warranty.
In general, the most important thing in using is to start with a simple and understandable and enjoy it

Ryzha
My airfryer returned from the service center. A request was sent to the manufacturer regarding the condensate. The airfryer is recognized as a worker. It's about the products. So whoever has hypertension recently and condensation forms - you can not faint
mowgli
hello bakers, I recently came across your site and am already hanging out for the second weekend ..
I am now tormented by this question, an airfryer can replace a microwave, mine is already old and I want to replace it with an airfryer .. What size is better to buy? what are the prices in rubles for them?
Aunt Besya
Quote: mowgli

hello bakers, I recently came across your site and am already hanging out for the second weekend ..
I am now tormented by this question, an airfryer can replace a microwave, mine is already old and I want to replace it with an airfryer .. What size is better to buy? what are the prices in rubles for them?
It depends on what you use the microwave for: if you bake there, then the AG will also cope, but more slowly, but for heating it is not an option, too long.
Viki
Quote: mowgli

can replace the microwave with an airfryer.
They are completely different guys devices. My opinion is that it is easier to replace the airfryer with a microwave and grill. I use both this and that, I have micro without grill. You know, I would rather give up ag than micro.
dopleta
Quote: mowgli


I am now tormented by this question, an airfryer can replace a microwave, mine is already old and I want to replace it with an airfryer.
Agree with Viki... I would not even doubt for a minute, but I bought a microwave with the function of an airfryer (and I have both it and an airfryer).
zvezda
How many people .... so many opinions .... I would have bought AG better, I also did not hesitate for a minute ... although I have a Micra with an oven, well, the function is Convection and grill, but this is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good right now !!!! And of course Ag is just tenovy .... go to the topic there are comparisons who have both.
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I agree with the Star 100%. I will not trade the airfryer for anything.

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