* Anyuta *
Quote: azaza

Why not? Can. But we're talking about a temporary lid shelter. During cooking, when it is hot, and the product must be turned over, or pulled out, or put into a preheated AG.

when I grill, I put it on the table .. I have it VERY large (since I live in a private house), so if I need to turn something over to the grill I put a wooden chopping board and send the lid on the board as a temporary shelter ... and no problem!
* Anyuta *
Quote: azaza

A must-have item in AG - a lid You won't believe it, but in some AG the equipment is even worse than in my Supra. I have at least two grilles and will expand. there is a ring, and some have one lattice, whose legs are short on one side, long on the other, and without a ring. As you want - and get out. But tongs for gratings, it seems, are in all AGs.

while you wrote about the complete set ... as an option, by the way, if we do not use an expansion ring, then the cover can be put on it
Mona1
Quote: azaza

Well, the hook on the wall will take up less space than the lid on the table.
And besides, this option is much more convenient, even in comparison with a stand under the lid. Just imagine the process of removing the cover itself. I have a stand. And with my right hand I remove the lid by the handle, but in order to put it in the stand, I must first unfold the lid vertically, that is, with my left hand, grab the edge of the hot lid. I'm looking for an oven mitt or a towel. To put it back from the stand on the AG, do the same in reverse order. And if a hook hangs from above, then only one hand is involved - he took off the cover by the handle and hung it on the hook.
IRR
well, that means they decided that with the bracket (if it allows) it is better, right?

but why you can choose without a bracket (I already threw this picture above), your own +. if the grating flask Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)

, then you can insert any saucepan in diameter.

Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)

And in an AG with a bracket it would be problematic, probably ... (I understand that all these devices are unattainable and in favor of the "poor" to shuffle, but still ... temporarily)
Galinka-Malinka
Today I'm picking up Hoter from the post office. Yesterday I brought a lot of carrots and beets from the village, tell me, is it possible to somehow prepare (preserve) a dressing for borscht?
Galinka-Malinka
I put a chicken on beer, something I didn't figure out with this roster, if on the middle grid, then the chicken rests on its neck, even with a magnifying ring, and on the lower grid it is not clear how to attach it to the roster that I bought in Metro (I get extra ) I didn't know that there would be a roster in the set with the aeroogril.
Mona1
Quote: Galinka-Malinka

I put a chicken on beer, something I didn't figure out with this roster, if on the middle grid, then the chicken rests on its neck, even with a magnifying ring, and on the lower grid it is not clear how to attach it to the roster that I bought in Metro (I get extra ) I didn't know that there would be a roster in the set with the aeroogril.
And here in Amstor I saw a chicken stand, made of twigs, not ceramic. I used to look very much and wanted to buy, but when I saw it, I changed my mind. I thought that you also can't turn the chicken over when cooking and it will be fried on top, but not very much below. It's better on the grill. He put it on the back, then turned it over, and - everything is equally rosy. The stripes are, of course, from the lattice. Maybe without stripes and prettier, and it takes longer to wash the grill, but somehow I made a choice not in favor of this stand.
Galinka-Malinka
Croissants with chocolate, from a piece of dough left over
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Galinka-Malinka
* Anyuta * perhaps.Oh, unsubscribe pliz how will everything come out okay?
I put potatoes in foil cubes with carrots on a salad. I didn't have a sleeve. Then I will unsubscribe. And so I want some buns and I'm afraid.
Manna
Quote: Galinka-Malinka

And so I want some buns and I'm afraid.
In the grill, yeast and puff pastry is excellent. So you should not be afraid But biscuit ... you need to be very confused to get it In an oven or multicooker, such an oven is better Although ... muffins can be ... if you cook muffins in an airfryer, then small portions are better, then they are baked.
Galinka-Malinka
manna Thank you. I will try yeast, but have not yet decided on the recipe. the puff tasted great. the muffins were small but nothing good came out, try another dough. Yesterday I wanted to eat the chops ... it turned out to be tin ... now I put it all in a mold, poured it with sour cream, I'm trying to finish it.
Manna
Quote: Galinka-Malinka

cupcakes were small but nothing good came out
It is better to take metal molds, so the dough heats up better. And in silicone in the airfryer it bakes poorly ... or dry, if overexposed
azaza
If someone cannot decide whether he needs AG or if he is in fig for such money, there is a cheap option with a heating element 🔗 The package bundle, however, is minimal, even without an expansion ring, but for UAH 266 ($ 32 with kopecks) you can do without a ring - I used mine three or four times in 10 months.
kissol
People, tell me, pliz, which model of AG to consider if the kitchen is small?
* Anyuta *
Quote: kissol

People, tell me, pliz, which model of AG to consider if the kitchen is small?

.. models of all AGs are different ... they differ in brands, designs and ESPECIALLY the volume of the bowl .. it is obvious that you are interested in the volume of the bowl .... You need an AG with a bowl volume of 7 liters
Manna
Quote: kissol

People, tell me, pliz, which model of AG to consider if the kitchen is small?
Small in height or in area? If the distance between the table top and the wall cabinets allows, then it is better to choose from models with a hinged lid. The removable cover requires desk space or hanging.

Quote: * Annie *

You need an AG with a bowl volume of 7 liters
Have you seen these 7-liter aero grills? They are toy. You won't be able to stuff anything in them. Maybe one piece of meat or one or two chicken drumsticks.
IRR
Quote: manna


Have you seen these 7-liter aero grills? They are toy. You won't be able to stuff anything in them. Maybe one piece of meat or one or two chicken drumsticks.

and you will have to turn the chicken over, if you grill, it is not very convenient. And the risk of losing all visual beauty (may fall apart accidentally)
azaza
Quote: manna

Have you seen these 7-liter aero grills? They are toy. You won't be able to stuff anything in them. Maybe one piece of meat or one or two chicken drumsticks.
+1
And large air grills are practically the same size.
As for the lid: yes, fixed is more convenient, but more expensive and "eats" a lot of space above itself. Fixed one requires additional gestures and penny costs once: a suitable hook or bracket is driven in the right place, on which the lid will be hung, and know the problems. This can be done directly under the wall cabinet.
* Anyuta *
Quote: manna

Small in height or in area? If the distance between the table top and the wall cabinets allows, then it is better to choose from models with a hinged lid. The removable cover requires desk space or hanging.
Have you seen these 7-liter aero grills? They are toy. You won't be able to stuff anything in them. Maybe one piece of meat or one or two chicken drumsticks.

.. exactly, just say ... but based on the request of our guest ...... "to a small kitchen" .... he might be the option ...
kissol
Then another question is ripe, on what surface should AG be installed? Is it possible on the floor? If yes, then I think I will have to put something under the AG so that the temperature does not melt the linoleum (I have linoleum in the kitchen).
In general, by "small AG" I mean with a small depth, the height is not so important.
* Anyuta *
Quote: kissol

Then another question is ripe, on what surface should AG be installed? Is it possible on the floor? If yes, then I think I will have to put something under the AG so that the temperature does not melt the linoleum (I have linoleum in the kitchen).
In general, by "small AG" I mean with a small depth, the height is not so important.
well, on the floor, it is somehow not very aesthetic ... ..

but you can put it anywhere .. it is on a plastic stand .. the bowl itself does not touch the surface of the table / tabletop / shelf ..
kissol
Oh, there is no time for aesthetics here So, I understand correctly that the floor surface does not come into contact with the hot parts of the AG?
And what about the models? So far I'm looking at Brand 35128, but it's too big for me - the length is 47 cm!
azaza
Quote: kissol

And what about the models? So far I'm looking at Brand 35128, but it's too big for me - the length is 47 cm!
Maybe 47 is the length of the box? I was not too lazy to measure my (I have Supra). Top diameter 33 cm, width at handles 39 cm.
kissol
There are no sizes on Brand's website at all, I took these here on the website. I ought to go to the store to see how it all looks in real life ...
Favorite
Quote: azaza

Maybe 47 is the length of the box? I was not too lazy to measure my (I have Supra). Top diameter 33 cm, width at handles 39 cm.
Brand 35128 has a bracket that holds the lid, it gives this size, and the 12 liter bowls are all the same, just somewhere the handles on the sides (horizontal), and somewhere, they form a vertical, that's the whole difference
Mona1
Quote: azaza

Maybe 47 is the length of the box? I was not too lazy to measure my (I have Supra). Top diameter 33 cm, width at handles 39 cm.
And I have a Liberton, and the sizes are also 33/39, they are all riveted in one Chinese plant. Only the labels are different, so that we are not bored and the equipment may differ. And on 7 liters. definitely not necessary. I would, as a last resort, put it not in the kitchen. In the corridor, on the loggia to the extreme. From it, the fat is not splashed, everything is sealed. But, of course, that it was in the immediate vicinity of the kitchen. Maybe a washing machine in the bathroom?
kissol
Quote: Favorite

Brand 35128 has a bracket that holds the lid, and it gives this size
Does this bracket stick out in chtoli length (not in height?)?
Favorite
Yes, it sticks out a little in length and height.
see how it looks and you will understand everything yourself 🔗
kissol
People, thank you for the advice ... tomorrow I'll go to the store and look at the dimensions of the existing airfryer. I will compare ... By the way, here on the Brand's website I looked at the 35131 and the new Pullman PRO. Maybe someone heard something?
chaki2005
I, too, was tormented by the size, cover options, and how and where to permanently place. I bought Ves. Between the cold and the kitchen. the table is a plastic chest of drawers. I took off the top drawer, put the board on top and AG on it. Everything fit in wonderfully. And the flip top isn't that bulky.

🔗 🔗
azaza
Tanya-Chucky, and where do you put the lid when you remove the hot one? There is not enough free space, I see
chaki2005
So I have it folding. I can slightly push the AG, and just the amplitude allows you to open upward without any problems. I myself did not expect that it would fit so well.
kissol
Quote: chaki2005

So I have it folding. I can slightly push the AG, and just the amplitude allows you to open upward without any problems. I myself did not expect that it would fit so well.
But do not tell me the dimensions of the unit?
Manna
Quote: kissol

Incidentally, here on the Brand website I looked at 2 more models 35131 and the new Pullman PRO. Maybe someone heard something?
Brand 35131 is made on the basis of Pullman, but the filling is from Brand 35128. Only instead of heating elements (as in 35128), 35131 is halogen. Brand managers recommend this model. By the way, as we filmed here, although it seemed to us that heating elements are more reliable, halogens break less and are easier to repair.

There is a separate topic for Brand airfills. we there it was discussed.
Mona1
Quote: manna

how we filmed here, although it seemed to us that heating elements are more reliable, but halogens break less and are easier to repair.
"They found out" - this is where the official testing was of halogen and heating elements, post a link, it is interesting to read, or it is just someone blurted out and should be taken for truth. I assume that it was blurted out by someone who benefits from a halogen. Or someone flew a heating element, and immediately the assumption arose that it was more reliable with halagen. I do not insist on my opinion that the heating element is much more durable until I read the results of the official independent testing of the AG with a different type of heater.
Manna
Quote: Mona1

or is it just someone blurted out and must be taken for the truth. I assume that it was blurted out by someone who benefits from a halogen. Or someone flew a heating element, and immediately the assumption arose that it was more reliable with halagen. I do not insist on my opinion that the heating element is much more durable until I read the results of the official independent testing of the AG with a different type of heater.
Forgive me, please, but I would like to remind you that this forum is friendly and even a family one, and it is not customary in families to express themselves in such a manner.

As for our conclusions about heating elements and halogen (I thought so ... for a very long time that heating elements are more reliable, more environmentally friendly, etc. were, were with heating elements), they can be read in Temka, the link to which I gave the message above. We made this conclusion based on the opinion of the repairman for the airfryer repair (this is mentioned in this post).

And about "someone's heating element flew" ... "Someone's" fuse on the airfryer with the heating element "flew" repeatedly (I even had to completely change the "brains" of the airfryer), and the master repeatedly hinted, and directly said that with a grill with a halogen heater, such troubles would not have happened.

And the heating element itself is, of course, more durable than a halogen light bulb, but is an airfryer with heating elements more durable?

And the question of "vparivaniya" double-edged ... Here, as Hotter promotes the ideality of heating elements and the worthlessness of halogens, so all other manufacturers defend their right to produce and sell other airfryer. And wait for "official independent testing", and even reliable, you can live the whole life
Mona1
Quote: manna

Please forgive me ...
I have persuaded, I forgive ... And about how I communicate, do not be too lazy to look into the history of my gratitude, who and for what they thanked me at one time, and you will understand that I am a very positive person. Always the first to run and help, and support, and protect. And I never offend anyone. I was just surprised that I read and expressed, without offending my opinion. Maybe I didn’t like that it’s not like yours, well, this is life. Not everything is woolly.

From the link that you gave, I realized that some single AG with a heating element, the heating element was placed a little crookedly and as a result of blizzards it touched the metal somewhere and a short circuit occurred. But if the heating element is installed correctly, where none of the places that could lead to a short circuit touch each other, then there will never be a short circuit and the heating element, I will not say that it is an eternal thing, but much longer than a halogen.
And the repairman did not say there that all the heating elements have this problem, but simply that halogens do not have such a problem. But others are on the doorstep. God forbid, wet hands will be and a drop of water on the glass of the lamp accidentally drips. Such fireworks will happen, that be healthy, the lamp will fly to smithereens. And if the heating element is normally installed, and this is practically everything I think, then really, this is a thing. By the way, in the same place the girl further wrote that she had been plowing for 9 years. And I do not think that only her.
In any case, as I wrote above, "I do not insist on my opinion until I read the results of the official independent testing of the AG with a different type of heater," and not the case with a single crooked heating element.
But, as I understood, you cannot present anything concrete official. So what's the argument about? Moreover, I do not insist, this is my single opinion.
azaza
I apologize in advance, there is no time to follow the link, but I definitely read it, it’s interesting. But I also vote for ten. Somehow, the glass does not inspire confidence in me at all. I understand that this is not an argument, and I do not call on anyone to share my opinion.
I generally advocate for the cheapest AG. It is not known which of them will last longer: heating oil, halogen. So it is better to buy a cheap aggregator and enjoy while it works. "Will die" - buy a new one. I have a heating element now. When I bought it, it was the cheapest. Now I found it even cheaper, and also a heating element (I gave a link to it above, Vertex). Yesterday my daughter-in-law bought it.I don’t know any impressions yet, he will come in the evening and tell me. But I am sure that for that kind of money, buying her will not disappoint.
And what's better - history will judge us. Someone uses halogen, and considers it the best, but someone does not get enough of tenu. Every sandpiper, as you know ...
The main thing that suit sat the airfryer pleased, and did not stand idle somewhere in the garage.
Favorite
The struggle between the heating element and the halogen was launched for advertising purposes by the Hotter company. For a long time, this company, highly respected by me, has been selling airfryer with a halogen heating element. There were various tests and everything was great, people were happy to take and use these airgils. A new time has come, new technologies and the company began to promote its new products - heating elements. And since many companies began to produce aerogrills with halogen, Hotter's "chip" became that Ten is safer and more durable. I used both a halogen and a heating element and did not notice the difference. And when I worked in the department of electrical goods I noticed that very cheap air grills often "fly", where they saved on everything.
Mona1
On the Internet, you can find completely opposite opinions in favor of both heating elements and halogen. For example:
"Please note that it is not customary to install halogen heating elements (heating elements) in household appliances for cooking with a service life of more than 2 years, such as Convection grills, Grills, Ovens, microwave ovens, etc. Halogen heating elements are usually used in If you come across a product on sale that says "Airfryer", but instead of a metal heating element, a halogen one is installed, you should know that this technique is assembled at a factory that produces heaters, hair dryers and other equipment not related to the kitchen. the seller, the life of such a device is 1-2 years. Be careful in the choice of goods! Secondly, on some sites it is directly indicated that you should not use an airfryer with halogen for more than 5 hours a day. Thirdly, if even an insignificant trace gets on the halogen lamp fat, this leads to a crack and, as a result, failure, and the probability of getting into it is quite high, since a grill with holes serves to protect the lamp. "
Or like this:
"The type of heating element of the airfryer.
A heating element mounted in the lid of the device brings the air in the flask to the temperature set by the user. It can be a conventional heating element (spiral metal heater) or, in more expensive models, a halogen heater made of glass ceramics.
A halogen heater works faster, it is more economical and more durable than a conventional heating element, and is not afraid of sudden temperature changes. Often, models with a halogen heater provide beautiful neon lighting. "
Etc.
Therefore, everyone has the right to form his own opinion, what is true from this and what is not. And yet, listen to your inner voice. Chuika, almost everyone has it.

P.S. Quotes are taken from here
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