zvezda
Expensive Dopplet!!! I am very pleased with the controversy with you, I always learn a lot of clever things .... I in no way say. that the oven is bad ... if possible, both are better, but personally At this stage, I would choose AG first, because I have hardly been using the oven for half a year ... and thermoregulation is just maintaining a uniform temperature.
dopleta
Quote: zvezda

I'm not speaking in any way. that the oven is bad ... if possible, both are better, but personally At this stage, I would choose AG first, because I have hardly used the oven for half a year ... and thermoregulation is just maintaining a uniform temperature.
Where did you see the word "thermoregulation"? What does she have to do with it? And I also am not saying that AG is bad, just (I repeat), if there is not enough space in the kitchen and funds, then there is no point in duplicating appliances with the same functions! I enjoy using the oven, which has many more options (see # 1013) than the AG.
drying
May I interfere with your conversation? Not so long ago, in my kitchen there were a cartoon and an oven with a grill and a bread maker and an air grill, once I thought "not an air grill, a cool thing, but from all of the above I would probably refuse it" Thoughts are material - boom !!! ! the spiral flew on the airfryer, so what? Within a few days I was howling without the airfryer, rummaging through the Internet to buy a new one or a spiral for the old one ... A month or about a month later I received it back from repair with a new spiral and a great feeling of joy, and my husband and children missed french fries from it that they fought)))) (I already described this) Now I will not say "I can do without an airfryer only in the oven" because I'm used to eating cutlets with a crispy crust and no fat, hot sandwiches, sausages with an appetizing crust on top and soft inside for breakfast and crispy toasts for breakfast ... I have a grill, but I didn't get everything listed in it, because it takes a long time to preheat the oven, they don't put a couple of sausages, and generally washing the oven after the "grill" mode is still a pleasure .. .. I’m not on whose side, I can’t live without an oven either, but aerogrill is a thing !!!!
svetik63
I agree with the above. I also can't live a day without AG! And the family was so used to eating cutlets cooked in a pan for a whole week. And from AG for a day we ate. And what a mess it turns out! Nowhere, except in a Russian stove, this will not work.
dopleta
We have a conversation about Thomas and about Erema. Nobody hears anyone! Once again I repeat my (our) point of view: AG is GOOD! BUT: if you have an oven WITH AH FUNCTION (NOT WITH A GRILL!), It is not necessary! Though Belka understood us ... And kolynusha ...
Midnight lady
Quote: dopleta

We have a conversation about Thomas and about Erema. Nobody hears anyone! Once again I repeat my (our) point of view: AG is GOOD! BUT: if you have an oven WITH AH FUNCTION (NOT WITH A GRILL!), It is not necessary! Though Belka understood us ... And kolynusha ...

Dopleta, let me disagree with you that we do not hear each other. It's just that someone shares your point of view, and someone shares the point of view of the Stars. Drying clearly wrote that she would not cook a small amount in the oven with whatever functions it was (grilling, or thermal ventilation, or AG), because it would be heated for a long time and then washed. In general, I think that if I had an airfryer and a bread machine, I would have done without an oven, in principle it is so: I have a gas oven and I am not friends with it and I cook in it a couple of times a year.And whoever also has a multicooker, then in general - a huge arsenal, in my humble opinion. Although I still didn't want a multicooker. But I have a family of 3 people, so for those with a large family, it probably makes sense to buy an oven.
Hairpin
YOU ARE ALL WRONG HERE !!!
Trust me as chapters. specialist. Your problem is that you operate with terms without specifying what they mean. First, let's clarify the meaning of the terms, well, at least within the framework of our communication, and then we can compare.

Here's who can explain on a stool level what is thermoregulation? Temperature regulation? But as? Due to the signal from the temperature sensor to the burner? For electric heating?

Equipment stores are full of imported names. And we often don't even come close to understanding what they mean.

So. Let's start with how thermoregulation works. I don't have it in the oven. Who has, and who knows how this beast works?
Boo Boo
Quote: Midnight lady

Drying clearly wrote that she would not cook a small amount in the oven with whatever functions it was (grilling, or thermal ventilation, or AG), because it took a long time to heat up
I used to trust the opinion of the people who used the device or function. You do not need to preheat the oven. )))))))
Spire Well, what does thermoregulation have to do with it, we were talking about thermal ventilation.
Thermoregulation is available in all modern ovens. It's just maintaining a certain temperature. Naturally, for this there must be a temperature sensor that will send a signal to the heating element or to the burner.
I already wrote about thermal ventilation above.
Midnight lady
Quote: BooBoo

I used to trust the opinion of the people who used the device or function. No need to preheat the oven. )))))))
Strange, as far as I know, the oven must be preheated when baking, as well as the airfryer. Just because of the smaller size the airfryer, I think, will heat up faster.
Hairpin
Well, in general, I mean that I still did not understand what is the difference between an oven with a grill function and an oven with an airfryer function. Here !!!
Boo Boo
Quote: Midnight lady

Strange, as far as I know, the oven must be preheated when baking, as well as the airfryer. Just because of the smaller size the airfryer, I think, will heat up faster.
In the airfryer I have a button for preheating, it lasts 6 minutes. I have a very old oven, maybe that has changed since then.
About the thermal ventilation mode (the one that is the airfryer) I have written the following - For cooking, without preheating the oven, at one or more levels.

Quote: Hairpin

Well, in general, I mean that I still did not understand what is the difference between an oven with a grill function and an oven with an airfryer function. Here !!!
Do you have a grill? Is there a fan?
Hairpin
Quote: BooBoo

Do you have a grill? Is there a fan?

For some reason I really feel bad ... Grill ... no ... and no fan ...

I think so. Earlier (about five years ago) in ovens, the functions of driving air through the oven (convection) were weak. Therefore, for baking with the upper electric heater, a spit was made, which turned when the upper electric heaters were operating and this was called the grill function. And now this function of persecuting air through the oven has become strong, and they began to make ovens without skewers, because now you can put this chicken on the wire rack, and hot air will fry it from all sides. And this function became known as the airfryer (in the oven).
So?
dopleta
Well, I'm just already laughing out loud! We don't just don't hear! But we also do not see! And we don't read! And we don't understand! Midnight lady, and you did not understand - we do not have different points of view with the Star, but different approaches to comparison. NOT a gas oven! NOT a grill oven. Electrical. The last word of technology. It is not necessary to reheat (not even recommended by manufacturers). It is rarely necessary to wash - well, it does not get dirty, the enamel is so special. After each use, I consider my airfryer to wipe it with a cloth with shumanite without rinsing. Hairpin, there are a lot of fan options. I'm partially on the previous. I wrote to the page.
belk @
Quote: Midnight lady

Strange, as far as I know, the oven must be preheated when baking, as well as the airfryer. Just because of the smaller size the airfryer, I think, will heat up faster.

The airfryer will heat up in 10 minutes, but my oven is gas, which means it is more economical. But puff buns are much better at AG, although they have to be cooked in 2 passes! For small portions of AG it is really an irreplaceable thing - well, I will not turn on the oven for a couple of hot buters !!! I use the oven to bake the rest of the dough (not puff). And I cook lunch mainly in the oven (except for grilled chicken and chicken legs), because the family is big and I cook about 10 of the same pots.
Boo Boo
Hairpin,
no. ))))))
So I'm telling you like mine. I have a lower shadow and an upper shadow. They are hidden, they are not visible. I also have a grill, it's this zig-zag bullshit on top. When you turn it on, it turns red. I also have convection, well, it's like a fan on the back wall. It can be turned on with both shades and grills. Its function is to drive the air available in the oven for more even cooking. This is all the standard set of functions for an electric oven. And I have another heating element, it is located on the back wall, where the fan is, well, just like in the airfryer. Hot air blows when this function is turned on.
If you don't understand again, I will try to explain it.
Midnight lady
Quote: dopleta

Well, I'm just already laughing out loud! We don't just don't hear! But we also do not see! And we don't read! And we don't understand! Midnight lady, and you did not understand - we do not have different points of view with the Star, but different approaches to comparison. NOT a gas oven! NOT a grill oven. Electrical. The last word of technology. It is not necessary to reheat (not even recommended by manufacturers). It is rarely necessary to wash - well, it does not get dirty, the enamel is so special. After each use, I consider my airfryer to wipe it with a cloth with shumanite without rinsing. Hairpin, there are a lot of fan options. I'm partially on the previous. I wrote to the page.
Doblet, I still don't understand something: why, having such an oven, did you buy an airfryer and even use it (I draw this conclusion, since you wrote that you wash it every time?)
I wash the flask of the airfryer only after cooking the meat, that is, a couple of times a week, but I just wipe it with a cloth-napkin, I have never used shumanite as unnecessary. But what about the miracle enamel in the oven ... are you sure that these technologies are harmless?
dopleta
Quote: Midnight lady

Doblet, I still don't understand something: why, having such an oven, did you buy an airfryer and even use it (I draw this conclusion, since you wrote that you wash it every time?)
Well, thank God! After all, I'm talking about this! I will repeat once again: "If there is not enough space and funds, there is no point in duplicating devices with the same functions!" But this is not my case. There is enough space, I love technology, there is a lot of it. As for cleaning, I will not even go into details, I will answer briefly - not just sure, I know.
The name of the enamel speaks for itself - Ecoclean.
zvezda
We dispersed Temko !!!! ; DDoplet !!! You and I are talking about the same thing, just from different angles. I'm just saying that after purchasing the AG oven I practically don't use it !!!! No matter how super duper she is !!! It's more convenient for me in AG !!!! : D And the taste is different !! ! But again this is my opinion ...personal!!! But washing the oven is still hard, although the enamel is good
Hairpin
I also want to draw your attention to the fact that there is not a single Hotter owner who would prefer an oven ... Or am I mistaken?
I have a gas oven. That says almost everything. Probably, there are good gas ones, but ... I have convection, and a grill, and a cooling fan, but ...

Twice I made cheesecakes in the oven from ... The third time I will do it in the airfryer. I'm pretty sure they won't fall off there ...

P.S. I'm a Taurus too!
Hairpin
Squirrel, what about you AG?

Dopplet! Come on, get up quickly, otherwise I will rush to modernization just to ban you from Star for capitalist antics. One slow cooker for 20,000 thousand, the other has an indecent oven ...
We, ordinary Koptev girls, just have nothing to do here !!! With our gas ovens !!!
belk @
Quote: Hairpin

Squirrel, what about you AG?

I have a Hotter, I won't tell you the model - I don't remember, I bought it in 2004, I'm very happy with it.
Midnight lady
Quote: dopleta

I will repeat once again: "If there is not enough space and funds, there is no point in duplicating devices with the same functions!"

I absolutely agree with you! Only you, as far as I understood, in such circumstances would choose an oven, and I - an airfryer. Because, firstly, I doubt that in a family with limited means, there would be enough money to buy such a fancy oven, and secondly, even such an oven still needs to be washed ( 🔗 and 🔗), and it is easier for me to wash the airfryer every time (especially since the flask can be washed in the dishwasher) than to wash the oven, even if you just need to wipe it with a damp cloth (in principle, I often do this). And with pyrolytic cleaning, you can generally go broke on paying for electricity (in the same place, heating up to 500 degrees). But everyone chooses for himself.
natamaslova
No, this is not a forum, this is a circus of some kind, BuBu, I laughed with your video, this is definitely about us and I learned a lot of new things, especially about fancy ovens, I have a gas stove with a fancy oven and still it is closed and I use AE every day and it tastes like Colour.........
Nastasya
I got to this topic. Hello to you!

The airfryer did not want to. Because I have a slow cooker. And I didn't read any topics. But ... then something terrible happened! Carried me to Star! And she has an airfryer! He is so handsome. And they gave me the appropriate advertisement.
Closer to the subject: now I have a Hotter Airfryer. So far, I have only been making chicken legs (my husband didn’t think about it, he said that it would be more rosy). Apparently I did something wrong. But it's still delicious. And I made potato balls yesterday (thanks, Star, per instruction). That turned out great !!! I will continue to experiment. There is a lot that is not clear yet. But I like the airfryer. By the way, my oven is nasty. I can't make friends with her.
VOLGOV
Some kind of problem with the airfryer, I don't understand the reason, I ask for help on the forum.
I bought a new airfryer FlavorWave TURBO Model: MJ-928 and decided to test it in working with a silicone mold of port wine - to make a pie with cabbage, but that was not the case. It turned out that he fries well on top, an appetizing golden brown crust in 20 minutes, but from below everything sticks to the form. Removed from a high stand to a low stand, the same thing. I thought maybe this is because of the silicone - due to the low thermal conductivity, the form does not have time to warm up from the inside, it lowered from 200 * C to 150 * C with a simultaneous increase in the baking time - everything remained as it was. Now I decided to try to get away from silicone and use the non-stick wiper included in the package. Well, now if he stopped bothering the prototype, it is still some kind of half-baked bottom and not very baked. The fan is spinning, the light is on-off, i.e. it keeps the temperature. What could be my problem?
Hairpin
The fact that it is halogen. This is not a statement, but a hypothesis.
There is a controversial version that only the top of the halogen airfryer heats up. That is, you put the cutlet, and it is ruddy on top, and pale below. At the heating elements, roasting is carried out by air and from all sides. Dopleta has the FW Condenser, she wrote ... I don't remember ...
Well, in short, empirical data are always more valuable than theoretical data. Take ... well, chicken drumsticks, marinate, and under the grill on a medium wire rack. And then see if there is a need to turn them over. If so, that's where the problem lies ...
vagaizonok
Hello everybody! So I decided to join you. I love various household appliances, and now I bought myself a kind of airfryer, like a DAEWOO DI2220S convection oven, at first I was so happy with the purchase, when looking at the recipe instructions, it turned out to be only 4 and I didn't like it, I rummaged in the internet, everywhere there are some speeds, medium grills. I have only two grids and two switches - temperature and time.Maybe I was looking in the wrong place, tell me where you can see the recipes for such "wooden" AG. I really do not want to use it only for cooking chicken and sausages, the rest does not work. Thank you in advance.
dopleta
Well, the lattice is not a question, and the cost of this question is -50 rubles, sold in all Seven Hills stores. But the rest ... I looked in the search engines - for some reason your stove is positioned everywhere as an oven, not an Airfryer. And still, it seems to me that this is not a problem. You write "the rest does not work", and you tried to cook everything? Is your fan working? That means it should work. Look in the topic "Airfryer. Recipes in the Airfryer", there are a lot of recipes, and simple recipes.
vagaizonok
Thank you, the grid is certainly not a question, the question is in the "Seven Hills" store, I have not heard of this in Kuzbass. Okay, I'll try again, maybe I set the temperature or time incorrectly.
Veronica
Quote: vagaizonok

Thank you, the grid is certainly not a question, the question is in the "Seven Hills" store, I have not heard of this in Kuzbass. Okay, I'll try again, maybe I set the temperature or time incorrectly.
We have shops selling Seven Hills products, for example, in Kemerovo, the Master store, which has its own branch network in the region.
Antonina Semyonovna
I read it, looked at it and wanted to AG now. Help me choose, I will buy in Seven Hills, but there are so many of them that I don't know which one is better. Like I wanted a mini for 7L. I have a large family of 8 people. that is, there are many and different tastes (they love everything and baked goods and fried and steamed and stewed and smoked ...) - advise pliz.
zvezda
Definitely .... TIGER !!!!! At 7 years, a little !!!
Aunt Besya
Antonina Semyonovna, listen to zvezda , for she is here GURU !!!! I have a Tiger too !!
konstanta
Quote: Antonina Semyonovna

I read it, looked at it and wanted to AG now. Help me choose, I will buy in Seven Hills, but there are so many of them that I don't know which one is better. Like I wanted a mini for 7L. I have a large family of 8 people. that is, there are many and different tastes (they love everything and baked goods and fried and steamed and stewed and smoked ...) - advise pliz.
I also have HOTTER TIGER NEW (but about 8 family members, two are better at once)
Antonina Semyonovna
Quote: konstanta

I also have HOTTER TIGER NEW (but about 8 family members, two are better at once)
No, I don't need 2, because I also have a Cartoon and a Hotter. : - \ I read about Tiger, pleases, especially the new model, I love such displays.
zvezda
It is comfortable, good body (with the addition of silicone) and the display is comfortable. I hope you will not be disappointed ...
Morro
Why doesn't any decent kitchen appliance company produce airfryer?
And the question with the price puts me at a loss ... A top hotter, so to speak, costs 2a times more than the most sophisticated bread maker from Panas, although from a technical point it is many times more primitive
zvezda
Do you have an AG ??? HP ONLY bakes bread and kneads the dough, but in AG you can cook and bake and fry and smoke and make yoghurt ... in general, you can't list everything !!! After all, a good stove is much more expensive, but you do not ask such a question !!! Why does Nokia only release phones?
PeNkA_kA
Quote: Morro

Why doesn't any decent kitchen appliance company produce airfryer?
And the question with the price puts me at a loss ... A top hotter, so to speak, costs 2a times more than the most sophisticated bread maker from Panas, although from a technical point it is many times more primitive
I apologize for the intrusion, of course, but on the contrary, I am trusted by the company that produces specific equipment - Hotter - airfryer, Nokia - phones ...
I don't have an airfryer yet, but I already know for sure that my husband prepared it for my anniversary, my mother-in-law blabbed it out))) so at the end of April I will join you, dear owners of the miracle technology!
Anastasia
Quote: PeNkA_kA

I apologize for the intrusion, of course, but on the contrary, I am trusted by the company that produces specific equipment - Hotter - airfryer, Nokia - phones ...
On the one hand, so.And on the other hand, if Panasonic or Philips or other manufacturers produce a wide range of equipment, does this mean that they should not be trusted?
Another thing, again, the question is different - why eminent companies do not pay attention to such a device as AG and do not undertake its production? After all, they take up the release of any other technique with pleasure, and they are not interested in AG. Here's what's interesting. It’s not whether this particular firm produces something else or not.
Morro
The situation with airfryers is similar to some kind of wiring ... Normal companies do not contact them. they are released only by the Chinese under completely different names, but it seems that in one or max in the neighboring basements. The technical device is primitive. In our country, some kind of incomprehensible network has been organized distributing this technique at several times inflated prices ...
Just what you want to lose weight ask me how.

ps. I just want to buy AG and now I have some choice questions ...
Anastasia
And I'm already trying to sell mine! Played and that's enough!
Hairpin
And I have the opposite ... I take it out more and more often ... Then my daughter brought some garbage (well, like fish cakes), tried to fry in a frying pan. I advised her to do it in the airfryer. And in the morning I get up, and she pulled him out in the second circle, did something to herself, and ran away ...
zvezda
Well done Shpilechka !!!! And the cutlets are really nowhere better and easier ...
sazalexter
Morro Large companies do not undertake the production of AG due to the low demand for the device.
Recently, in addition to the Chinese, Korea has also taken up production.
HOTTER is generally Russia
Morro
sazalexter There may be no demand for them, but there is a feeling that the demand for the same multicooker is even lower, and it is probably not very large for bread makers.

And what evidences that the hotter is Russia are there?
Hairpin
Nothing is known about Hotter. He is no longer tracked further than Peter. Attempts to find phone numbers, websites in England have failed. With the same question from the saleswoman on the River, she said that, in fact, this is Holland. But there are as many tracks in Holland as there are in England. If it really was England, then there would be at least something in England ...
But the fact that this is not China is generally scary!
jelen
Quote: Hairpin

Nothing is known about Hotter.

In Seven Hills on Novoslobtskaya, they said Taiwan. I have been using it for two years and am very satisfied.
jelen
on Novoslobodskaya 48
PeNkA_kA
And what is written on the Hotters AG themselves? Russia or Taiwan?

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