Utensils for cooking (pots, pans, lids) (2)

And I have already "sated" something with Teflon, I hope I will leave only the pancake, and when my big Tefalka is completely stressed, I will buy Kukharovskaya anyway.

And you will be right. IMHO

Svetta, but I haven't looked at German pans, Stoneline. I ordered from Natasha Makabushi on the Berner joint venture. Nice pans.

Thank you, I went to study ...

so they are the same three-layer non-stick and two-layer non-stick .. two types of pans are from Kuhar ..

No, there are no non-stick pans under the Kuhar brand, but there is another very good manufacturer - Victoria, which makes quality cast aluminum pans with 2 and 3-layer QuanTanium coating and ceramic Fusion from Whitford.

Well ... why did I look ???
Well: - \ can I buy in Ukraine ???

Buy the BIOL skillet, they have normal quality cast pans with coatings from Whitford and Wellburger. Approximately the same level of technical characteristics and quality as the Belarusian Victoria.

mr.

mr.Catlery
Thank you!

[Mistletoe]

And with a ceramic coating neither, nor. We are already full.

PPKS !!!

I threw out two, served less than a year.

The same song ...

I still remember our Ksyu (Mistletoe) with a kind word, thanks to her, I bought myself a bunch of Gourmet pots / braziers and just uastliva !!!

Tell me, can you fry on Gourmet stainless steel pans? And then I had experience - everything sticks. And I always thought that in such pans you can only stew. Therefore, I'm waiting for the Kukharovskaya frying pan

Buy the BIOL skillet, they have normal quality cast pans with coatings from Whitford and Wellburger. Approximately the same level of technical characteristics and quality as the Belarusian Victoria.

I had BIOLovskaya TitanAl with a non-stick coating, after a year it peeled off. Money down the drain.


Gourmet ordered.

[kirch]

I had BIOLovskaya TitanAl with a non-stick coating, after a year it peeled off. Money down the drain.


Gourmet ordered.

Here it is appropriate to focus on the "TitanAl" coating - now BIOL has completely different coatings - imported, time-tested, I pointed them out for a reason. Victoria also had quality problems 3-4 years ago, because they applied the same coating as Neva Metalware on their ordinary series - cheap Stalaflon. After Victoria and BIOL switched to Whitford and Wellburger coatings, their pans became normal, quality products. Therefore, when choosing a frying pan, in addition to the brand, you also need to look at what kind of coating and whose production it is.
Gourmet is good, but they have a frying pan with a smooth bottom and this significantly reduces its functionality. You can fry on it, but not everyone can do it successfully and it all works out. In fact, this is just the same Gourmet pan, only with a short side ... kirch writes about it ...

[Tefal]

I was recently given a frying pan Tefal a series Talent from new non-stick coating Titanium Pro.

Suitable for all types of surfaces, including induction.
Material - aluminum, thick walls, disc-shaped bottom made of stainless steel 4.5 mm.
Write that cover Titanium Pro - the most durable internal non-stick internal coating, as long as 9 years.Rough enough to touch. The outside is also non-stick, but the material is smoother there.

She also goes with Thermo-Spot 4 - when the Thermo-Spot heating indicator turns uniformly red when the optimum temperature of 180 ° C is reached, you can start frying.
They also write that it evenly heats, but I have a cheap induction unit and the reason may be in the stove - pancakes or cutlets located in the center are always fried faster, and decently.

I noticed this series for a long time, but all the money was a pity - I was afraid that this was another frying pan for 1 year.
I don't know how long it will last, I will report regularly

how not? and then what? not yours

Oops, I'm not clear on anything. So no one answered me which of the three offered Cooks to prefer. The usual pangs of choice for me, especially regarding the choice on the Internet, when there is no way to feel. I unconditionally trust only Dopleta, we have some inexplicable unanimity with her in almost everything, even at the level of sensations.

No, there are no non-stick pans under the Kuhar brand, but there is another very good manufacturer - Victoria, which makes quality cast aluminum pans with 2 and 3-layer QuanTanium coating and ceramic Fusion from Whitford.

Anya, in my opinion, he explains .. he says good (they would not disgrace their store with bad products .. this is also a Belarusian company)

and by the way, what kind of frying pan did Vit say .. what they are developing, testing .. is it in the store?

Anya, in my opinion, he explains .. he says good (they would not disgrace their store with bad products .. this is also a Belarusian company)

and by the way, what kind of frying pan did Vit say .. what they are developing, testing .. is it in the store?

I realized that he recommends victory to Ukraine, where Kuhar is not available. And for us - Salova 52, but there is something to choose from 3? I haven’t seen them, I want to hear the opinion of users.

I realized that he recommends victory to Ukraine, where Kuhar is not available. And for us - Salova 52, but there is something to choose from 3? I haven’t seen them, I want to hear the opinion of users.

it is these that are sold on Salov .. this company is a victorie .. and not a cook with a three-layer and two-layer coating .. it is in their store .. but a cook with Teflon does not release (at all)

it is these that are sold on Salov .. this company is a victorie .. and not a cook with a three-layer and two-layer coating .. it is in their store .. but a cook with Teflon does not release (at all)

Then I don't understand anything at all. Have you been there, have you seen them? I realized that Kuhar does not produce with Teflon, and others, a cat. are listed on the site, is there?
Reread, he recommends Ukraine Biol.

Then I don't understand anything at all. Have you been there, have you seen them? I realized that Kuhar does not produce with Teflon, and others, a cat. are listed on the site, is there?
Reread, he recommends Ukraine Biol.

I’m not in St. Petersburg, but for a sample I would take 20cm for pancakes (three-layer) ... he recommends Biol to Ukraine .. because they have the same Teflon coating used as the Belarusian Victory (as I understand it)

Wiit, where are you? what are you talking about with mr. Ketlery said a frying pan .. that the cook is going to release it?

My understanding is that the 3rd layer is added so that it can be used on induction surfaces. Already easier, the choice has narrowed to 2 offered options.

Anya .. I don’t know .. I always thought .. that the more layers .. the .. in general, it will not come off so quickly .. maybe ..

Anya .. I don’t know .. I always thought .. that the more layers .. the .. in general, it will not come off so quickly .. maybe ..

It says that the last (I understood - outer) layer is magnetic - for induction cookers, such as an adapter.

The main container of the pot is made of high quality AISI 304 stainless steel, however this steel is non-magnetic and therefore cannot be used on an induction cooker.Especially for this, the covering capsule of the bottom of the pan is made of AISI 430 ferritic steel, which allows using KUKHAR cookware without any restrictions on the types of stoves.

It says that the last (I understood - the outer) layer is magnetic - for induction cookers, such as an adapter.

The main container of the pan is made of high quality AISI 304 stainless steel, however this steel is non-magnetic and therefore cannot be used on an induction cooker. Especially for this, the covering capsule of the bottom of the pan is made of AISI 430 ferritic steel, which allows using KUKHAR cookware without any restrictions on the types of stoves.

throw links .. which ones you chose ..

throw links .. which ones you chose ..

There this phrase on the first 2 links.

[kirch]

Gourmet is good, but they have a frying pan with a smooth bottom and this significantly reduces its functionality. You can fry on it, but not everyone can do it successfully and it all works out. In fact, this is just the same Gourmet pan, only with a short side ... kirch writes about it ...

In my gourmet frying pan, it stuck in several cases:
- if you put food in an unheated dish with cold oil;
- when I tried to turn cutlets, potatoes with an unformed crust.
But if all the conditions are met, then I fry calmly. And what else are pans for? Although in fairness, pancakes would not be baked on a "gourmet". For this I will buy "Kuhar".

Wiit, where are you? what are you talking about with mr. Ketlery said a frying pan .. that the cook is going to release it?

I'm not Vit, but about THIS frying pan info on the forum is available. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3127.0 It is not on sale yet, but we are patiently waiting for such a frying pan here.

so maybe we already "created" after all, we discussed it a year ago ..

so maybe we already "created" after all, we discussed it a year ago ..

Create something created, and paperwork? Approvals and approvals? Whoa! They have not yet appeared on sale, only in prototypes. If they were already on sale, then we would already be aware of and would already actively discuss testing OUR pans. And so while we are still just waiting.

Kind people! Duc already said a thousand times about these pans! A month ago, I was the only one who asked Kuhmeister about these pans. I sent you to the Smorgon website, where you could see my negotiations, and you could ask a question there. I will repost his answer directly on the topic of the question:
"... Kuhmeister
A little endurance and patience and we will bring the frying pan to serial production. This is the task for the coming months. Unfortunately, not everything turns out as quickly as we would like. In the summer we were engaged in technology, eliminating bottlenecks that did not allow us to release even a pilot batch. We perfectly understand what demand there may be for these products and do not want to deceive the expectations of our customers. August and early September were so intense. that we could not even imagine this. For 3 weeks of August, the net production amounted to 12.5 thousand pots, this week we are handing over a large order for mugs for the Belarusian army, kindergartens and schools cannot wait for our professional pots. Therefore, dear Vit, take my word for it, we are not sitting here with folded hands ... On Wednesday I will indeed be in Kiev with a report at the conference within the Tableware, this is also a necessary part of my work. In a week I am in Moscow on HouseHold, so I apologize in advance for the irregularity of messages - complete time pressure. I really have nothing to promise Ukrainians, taking into account their state policy “we want to be everywhere”, no matter how it gets worse as it is now. At the moment, we would be able to cope with the demand in the domestic market and not ruin exports to the Russian Federation.
I have a good idea about organized trips for "goods". Our entrepreneurs regularly go to Khmelnitsky to buy goods, why not arrange the supply of our dishes there ...! "
It was September 5 🔗 Read this page

how not? and then what? not yours

So I wrote - on the site (this is a St. Petersburg online store) products of two manufacturers Kuhar and Victoria.
And the pans will be! If everything goes well, then the first serials will be in the second half of November

and for pancakes you will make such a frying pan? otherwise with such bumpers for pancakes it's not ice ..

and for pancakes you will make such a frying pan? otherwise with such bumpers for pancakes it's not ice ..

Yes, the second stage will be pancakes. For them we still need to make a tool. And for the first, we used the existing form.

Yes, the St. Petersburg online store. I just checked - the site is working.
For the Moscow region you can contact

Tell me, is there such a thing in Kazakhstan? Thanks in advance.

So I wrote - on the site (this is a St. Petersburg online store) products of two manufacturers Kuhar and Victoria.
And the pans will be! If everything goes well, then the first serials will be in the second half of November

Let's wait impatiently, it's not long left. Whoever sees the first in the St. Petersburg store - beacon here.

Tell me, is there such a thing in Kazakhstan? Thanks in advance.

Unfortunately, not yet. There are no partners yet who would start working with our dishes.

Unfortunately, not yet. There are no partners yet who would start working with our dishes.

Thanks for the answer.

[mr.Catlery]

mr.Catlery, very glad to see you again in this thread!
And I really hope for your help, as a person who is well versed in the materials used for the manufacture of dishes.
Can you please tell me if honey and jam can be stored in dolomite dishes?
I could not find the answer to this question anywhere.
I understand that dolomite is not exactly your "topic", but still I rely on your extensive professional knowledge in this area and your broad outlook

[mr.Catlery]

mr.Catlery, very glad to see you again in this thread!
And I really hope for your help, as a person who is well versed in the materials used for the manufacture of dishes.
Can you please tell me if honey and jam can be stored in dolomite dishes?
I could not find the answer to this question anywhere.
I understand that dolomite is not exactly your "topic", but still I rely on your extensive professional knowledge in this area and your broad outlook

Sellers present dolomite utensils as a kind of "light" ceramics, although this is not entirely true. Ceramics and dolomite utensils have common technological conversions (molding, firing, glazing, etc., although they occur at different temperatures). But in chemistry. they are different in composition. Clay ceramics are based on the compounds of silicon and aluminum oxides Al2O3 and SiO2, and the dolomite composition is a mineral consisting of calcium and magnesium carbonates MgO · CaO · CO2, which are close in their chemical and physical properties to limestone. During the production process, dolomite cookware is covered with glaze. It is this glaze that comes into contact with food. Almost all dolomite crockery in our market originates from China. In this regard, one cannot do without a normal hygienic examination. The fact is that not even the material of the product itself (shard) may be toxic, but chemical. composition of glaze or decor paints. Such precedents have already existed on Chinese porcelain and faience. Therefore, the question is complex and controversial. In addition, it matters what exactly to store in such dishes - dry bulk products, for them the likelihood of contact with the glaze is minimal or liquid jam, which contains food acids. I personally would prefer to store foods like honey and jam in a traditional glass container. The main disadvantage of dolomite crockery is that it is porous, fragile, afraid of acids and temperature extremes. Well, the advantage is the lower price compared to traditional ceramics and faience.

[mr.Catlery]

mr.CatleryThank you very much for your prompt, detailed, accessible and well-reasoned answer! Thanks to you, I will now know that it is better not to buy the dolomite containers I have planned - you saved me from unnecessary expenses, and, very likely, from harm to health!
It's so good that we have you here!

PPKS 100%.

: bravo: Good afternoon, chefs! Today I received a set of dishes Orchid !!! Many thanks to Mr. Catlery for the opportunity to have these dishes in the kitchen! Ilya Nikolaevich kindly told me the phone, by which I was able to make an order in Moscow, the people there are attentive and very responsive! If anyone has a desire to buy Kuhar dishes in Moscow, I will gladly give you phone numbers by which you can do it! Mr. Catlery and I will still wait for a modified frying pan (I hope to make myself a gift for my birthday !!!) Thank you very much again !!!!!

: bravo: Good afternoon, chefs! Today I received a set of dishes Orchid !!! Many thanks to Mr. Catlery for the opportunity to have these dishes in the kitchen! Ilya Nikolaevich kindly told me the phone, by which I was able to make an order in Moscow, the people there are attentive and very responsive! If anyone has a desire to buy Kuhar dishes in Moscow, I will gladly give you phone numbers by which you can do it! Mr. Catlery and I will still wait for a modified frying pan (I hope to make myself a gift for my birthday !!!) Thank you very much again !!!!!

Of course we want all turnout phones flogged
Write soon!

There are already a lot of impressions from the dishes themselves, from the attention of the girls in the warehouse. Now we are preparing for frying cutlets, cooked the compote in the largest saucepan, took it off the stove 2 hours ago, and the compote is still hot (my delicious one comes) -without sugar, stood on the stove on the smallest comfort (6 cm), about 30 min, quietly, the bubbles rose - did everything as ordered by Mr. Catlery. In addition to the Orchid set, I also took a 3.0 L Magnolia frying pan, so there will be cutlets according to the plan today !! Happy as an elephant !!!

stood on the stove on the smallest comfort (6 cm), for about 30 minutes, the bubbles rose quietly - she did everything as ordered by mr. Catlery.

and where did he say so?

I found the site of Smorgon, where they ask questions about dishes, there is also a photo of cooking on Kuhar dishes, there is a video where Ilya Nikolayevich bakes pancakes in a steel frying pan. I read all the pages and decided that I just need to have these dishes at home, although I have a Gourmet and also a German one, and I also have steel dishes from Tupperware. I liked Kuhar very much, and surprisingly, today, after frying the cutlets, there was no need to wash the stove, my hands were not scalded by drops of oil, and in general everything is fine, now I put the potatoes and poured water into a saucepan, it is worth whispering quietly. Website address
🔗 ... But it is desirable to read everything, everything is interesting there.

oooy .. read the last page .. how poor our Vit .. invited the kitchen master to our website .. so that he would explain everything to us .. thank you .. Vit! : rose: and someone there asks .. so that to one model .. attach handles and a handle to the lid from another .. oh dreamers

read all 60 pages?

: girl_claping: On page 59 there are links with cooking in a frying pan with microgrill (Jazzwoman cooks, shows and shares her impressions, unfortunately I don't know the name of this brave girl!), and the video of our esteemed mr.Catlery fries pancakes. And advice is everywhere, in short, you need to read!

Yes, in the topic "Cookware" on smorgon.org there is a lot, it seems to me, that is useful and informative about the use of dishes and their care. All this has been developed thanks to the great esthete in the preparation of various dishes of Jazzwoman. Some of her photos are worth something! It was thanks to her (her name is Valentina, by the way, and she is a French teacher in her life) that I learned how to cook liquid meals in a double boiler. So read on to your health!

mr.Catlery, I ask for your advice. I choose a frying pan, which of these two would you recommend - I want durability and strength, and fry with a minimum of fat.

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Thanks for the answer.

mr.Catlery, I ask for your advice. I choose a frying pan, which of these two would you recommend - I want durability and strength, and fry with a minimum of fat.

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Thanks for the answer.

As you can see on your links, these are BIOL cast aluminum pans on both PTFE-based coating, manufacturer Whitford. The pans themselves are slightly different in technical characteristics for the "Lux" line with a bottom thickness of 5 mm, and for "Charm" 6mm. , the difference must be said not fundamental. There is a difference in the type of coverage. Right here : 🔗 you can see what Whitford coatings are and how they differ. Basically Eclipse and Eterna have the same level of coverage, but Eclipse is 3-layer reinforced and the newest in terms of development time. If I were you, I would choose the "Lux" line. As for the fat and oil, the coated pans allow for a minimum of use and are non-stick. It is necessary to pay attention to the correct choice of the heating source, its power (do not abuse strong heating) and properly care for the coating, then the frying pan will last long enough.

Yes, in the topic "Cookware" on smorgon.org there is a lot, it seems to me, that is useful and informative about the use of dishes and their care. All this has been developed thanks to the great esthete in the preparation of various dishes of Jazzwoman. Some of her photos are worth something! It was thanks to her (her name is Valentina, by the way, and she is a French teacher in her life) that I learned how to cook liquid meals in a double boiler. So read on to your health!

Yes, indeed, at first I was just reading, it seemed to me that I already had these dishes, all the processes were so meticulously described and shown.
And thanks to you, I have now begun to understand the dishes.
And then I used to differ only in "flowers" and price ... For which, thank you very much again !!!
Smorgon dishes are the only thing left for me to be completely happy in the kitchen.
All the rest- like has already. (I especially like the word "like") ...

How I want a new Kukharovskaya frying pan. Where to buy it when it appears.