Wit
Yes, this is it.
Here's what I didn't like: when analyzing the dishes, the Zepter with its photos and electron microscope data had to be placed next to the data with photos of similar dishes from another Brand. An obvious cant!
Swifta
Quote: Wit

Yes, this is it.
Here's what I didn't like: when analyzing the dishes, the Zepter with its photos and electron microscope data had to be placed next to the data with photos of similar dishes from another Brand. An obvious cant!

And where was STE? I missed?
Ipatiya
Quote: infa

🔗 A little more about the myths about dishes.

Thank you! I went and was surprised. Real pot wars!
Here's another discussion of cookware: 🔗 and 🔗.

P.S. I was glad for "Gourmet". High quality dishes! By the way, there are also sale prices on the site. Maybe the promotion has been extended?

Song
Quote: Ipatiya

P.S. I was glad for "Gourmet". High quality dishes! By the way, there are also sale prices on the site. Maybe the promotion has been extended?
Ipatiya, I also ordered "gourmands" at your suggestion ...
LudMila
Quote: Ipatiya

By the way, there are also sale prices on the site. Maybe the promotion has been extended?
Really extended! I bought something different today for almost 6 thousand ...
And the sellers themselves do not know how long this happiness will last. Since Monday, some items seem to have to be removed (a 5 liter pot with a glass lid, if anyone needs one, hurry up), and add something. Look on the website!
Song
Quote: LudMila

I bought something different today for almost 6 thousand ...
LudMila What did you buy? Boast !!!
Quote: LudMila

Look on the website!
OK!

🔗

LudMila
Quote: Song *

LudMila What did you buy? Boast !!!
I boast!
A 7l "Profi" pot (though with a steamer insert that is not very necessary in the presence of 3 multicooker and 2 pressure cookers), a ladle with a glass lid for 1.5 liters, well, and 3 pans ...
Song
Quote: LudMila

I boast!
A 7l "Profi" pot (though with a steamer insert that is not very necessary in the presence of 3 multicooker and 2 pressure cookers), a ladle with a glass lid for 1.5 liters, well, and 3 pans ...
You went well! I also sunk into frying pans and braziers ...
Wit
Quote: LudMila

I boast!
A 7l "Profi" pot (though with a steamer insert that is not very necessary in the presence of 3 multicooker and 2 pressure cookers), a ladle with a glass lid for 1.5 liters, well, and 3 pans ...
marinastom
Listen, friends, this frying pan 🔗 from the Gourmet worth your attention, or what?
Song
Quote: marinastom

Listen, friends, this frying pan 🔗 from the Gourmet worth your attention, or what?
marinastom Marina, the girls praise her.
Ipatiya
Quote: Song *

Ipatiya, I also ordered "gourmands" at your suggestion ...

Anya, just now I saw fresh entries in the topic. Congratulations! Will you share your acquisitions?
"Gourmet" is a real decoration of the kitchen! I still process this dish with the "Shine of Steel" (Selena) tool and it shines and shines for me. And after reading about different brands of dishes, I started to respect "Gourmet" even more.

Quote: marinastom

Listen, friends, this frying pan 🔗 from the Gourmet worth your attention, or what?

The pan is very good! But to wash ... But even here there is a way out. Soak with BFB bleach and the pan was washed without any effort. Advice Songs*, for which many thanks to her!

marinastom
Oh, girls, again a hole in the budget will whistle ...
Aygul
Girls, help!
With pots, everything is ok with me - I use multicooker, pressure cooker.
But pans ... I have to buy, whatever I take, I use, of course, but either my hands are not like that, or the pans. In short, I do not add up with them.
So, the question is: my husband here caught fire with an iCooc frying pan (aykuk amveevskaya), and the logic is so ridiculous that it is 1.5-2 times cheaper than the Zepter pan.
Who has? Tell me, pliz, honestly about her, because the money is still not small, and personally I see no reason to take such an expensive one. But maybe she really is super duper, and I will be satisfied?
Ipatiya
Quote: marinastom

Oh, girls, again a hole in the budget will whistle ...

Marina, and you count it as a bargain. A year ago I bought a grill pan without any discount. Then it was a "hole". In addition, it has a magic lid that can be used with any dish of a suitable diameter. The lid collects condensation that rolls off the rim. This rim is cleverly folded to prevent condensation from getting back into the food. I have never gotten cutlets as lush as in this grill pan with its wonderful lid. They were neither steamed nor boiled, namely fried and fluffy, tender inside.
Wit
Quote: Aygul

Girls, help!
With pots, everything is ok for me - I use multicooker, pressure cooker.
But the pans ... I have to buy, whatever I take, I use, of course, but either my hands are not like that, or the pans. In short, I do not add up with them.
So, the question is: my husband here caught fire with an iCooc frying pan (aykuk amveevskaya), and the logic is so ridiculous that it is 1.5-2 times cheaper than the Zepter pan.
Who has? Tell me, pliz, honestly about her, because the money is still not small, and personally I see no reason to take such an expensive one. But maybe she really is super duper, and I will be satisfied?
Do you take help from boys?
marinastom
Quote: Wit

Do you take help from boys?
Vital, you are our best FRIEND!
Wit
Quote: marinastom

Vital, you are our best FRIEND!
Song
Quote: Wit

Do you take help from boys?
Quote: Wit

Where is the help?
qdesnitsa
Vitaly, we are always interested in men's opinion, so do not play
Wit
Quote: Song *

Where is the help?
So I'm asking! What if they say to me: "Nah, pasibki. We'll do without peasants! Why can they sniff in pans? They can only eat from pans." A Aygul is silent
So I'm afraid ...
Song
Quote: Wit

Duc I'm asking! What if they say to me: "She, pasibki. We will do without muzhukov! Why can they sniff in pans? They can only eat from pans." A Aygul is silent
So I'm afraid ...
The already given help ... we are also interested in listening.
mr.Catlery

Author - Ilya N. Petunov © 2013. This is our Kuhmeister, aka mr. Catlery?
Yes, he's Stone IN. We have serious fights in three forums
qdesnitsa
Vital, give us a help, otherwise they are waiting for yogi with love in those who do not die in the night!
Wit
Quote: Song *

The already given help ... we are also interested in listening.
Well, here's a help for you, pliz! Wait he will write to you
qdesnitsa
Quote: Mr. Catlery

Yes, he's Stone IN. We have serious battles there in three forums
And you mister, let's expand your nets, otherwise we are running around the city like greyhounds, looking for your casters ...
marinastom
Quote: qdesnitsa

And you mister, let's expand your nets, otherwise we are running around the city like greyhounds, looking for your casters ...
Yeah, I'm already looking at the grooved Gourmet while you wait for your bombing bombardment.
mr.Catlery
Quote: Aygul

So, the question is: my husband here caught fire with an iCooc frying pan (aykuk amveevskaya), and the logic is so ridiculous that it is 1.5-2 times cheaper than the Zepter pan.
Who has? Tell me, pliz, honestly about her, because the money is still not small, and personally I see no reason to take such an expensive one. But maybe she really is super duper, and I will be satisfied?
Well, when it comes to MLM companies and network marketing, and Amway is such a company, you need to understand that the selling price of this tableware includes 1 real value and 2 more costs that are the income of several levels of distributors. The dishes themselves can be of sufficient quality and sound quality, but the price will in any case be inadequate. What kind of frying pan are you talking about, is it a non-stick stainless steel?
Swifta
Quote: Mr. Catlery

Yes, he's Stone IN. We have serious battles there in three forums
It has been a long time since you were met here, mr.Catlery... So give us links to the battles, I wonder on what issue the battles. We are waiting, sir.
mr.Catlery
Quote: qdesnitsa

And you mister, let's expand your nets, otherwise we are running around the city like greyhounds, looking for your casters ...
So in Moscow and St. Petersburg we already have representatives, I can give a tip
Wit
Quote: SWIFTA


So give us links to the battles, I wonder on what issue the battles.
I warned you mr.Catlery... Aunties are fighting. They are no longer pans, give them fights. When they get to Smorgon ...
marinastom
And the microrelief? At least you can get it in Belarus? I'm already trying to find the ends there.
So Vit confirms.
mr.Catlery
Quote: SWIFTA

It has been a long time since you were met here, mr.Catlery... So give us links to the battles, I wonder on what issue the battles. We are waiting, sir.

Yes, for the most part trolling, of course, but there is a temka on ixbt dedicated to the choice of pans, although everything is discussed there, in some places it can be useful and interesting. 🔗
mr.Catlery
Quote: marinastom

And the microrelief? At least you can get it in Belarus? I'm already trying to find the ends there.
So Vit confirms.
And the microrelief will appear not earlier than November, now the production is being prepared. Why look for us? We're not hiding like
qdesnitsa
Mr. Catlery, I'm interested in appearances and flogged in Moscow, preferably in the south of Moscow ...
Swifta
Quote: Mr. Catlery

Yes, for the most part, trolling, of course, but there is a temka on ixbt dedicated to the choice of pans, although everything is discussed there, in some places it can be useful and interesting. 🔗

Thank you, I read it, maybe I will really find something useful.

Quote: Mr. Catlery

... Why look for us? We're not hiding like

Do not hide, but rarely visit us. And we also want a micro-relief, and we want to "refine" existing pans with a micro-relief. Will it ever be possible?
mr.Catlery
Here Yanukovych will sign an association with the European Union and we will live from each other behind the ba-a-alshy fence
qdesnitsa
Quote: Mr. Catlery

Here Yanukovych will sign an association with the European Union and we will live from each other behind the ba-a-alshy fence
Here's your grandmother and St. George's Day
Aygul
Quote: Wit

Do you take help from boys?
Yes of course! And how!
Aygul
Quote: Mr. Catlery

Well, when it comes to MLM companies and network marketing, and Amway is such a company, you need to understand that the selling price of this tableware includes 1 real value and 2 more costs that are the income of several levels of distributors. The dishes themselves can be of sufficient quality and sound quality, but the price will in any case be inadequate. What kind of frying pan are you talking about, is it a non-stick stainless steel?
Zepter is also a network company, if I know correctly, they also have "distributors, networkers". Basically, I have nothing against network companies if this is a really high-quality product.
This is a 25cm frying pan, non-stick steel.
Anna1957
Quote: Mr. Catlery

So in Moscow and St. Petersburg we already have representatives, I can give a tip

Please give for Peter.
mr.Catlery
Quote: Aygul

Zepter is also a network company, if I know correctly, they also have "distributors, networkers". Basically, I have nothing against network companies if this is a really high-quality product.
This is a 25cm frying pan, non-stick steel.
Judging by the fact that MLM companies even increased their sales during the crisis, a fairly large number of people "have nothing" against these companies. Everyone can spend what they earn as they see fit. But in order to gain 300% of the profit, it is necessary to somehow convince the buyer of the need to choose the "network" tableware, and this is where completely "non-sporting" techniques are used. Neuro-linguistic programming, exploitation of vanity, advertising chatter and just outright deception, which I actually talked about in my article "Fakeomania-2" using the example of a product from the trade m. Zepter. After almost 2 years of operating experience and working on various types of grill surfaces, I can say with complete confidence that the non-stick coating on stainless steel, and any, is not necessary and, most importantly, extremely unreliable improvement. If you are already an adherent of non-stick coatings, then it is better to choose a normal cast aluminum skillet, with a proven, well-proven reinforced non-stick coating (not ceramic). Such a frying pan will serve, with careful handling and normal care from 3 years. And if you estimate how many such pans you can buy for the price of 1 stainless, coated Amway pans, which will peel off in a maximum of a couple of years and you just have to throw it out, then I think you will get more than the average human life span.
Aygul
I, frankly, do not even know what he was guided by when he wanted it (the consultants probably sang what wonderful dishes they have). but haven't bought it yet, and that's okay. Because personally, I see no point in buying a frying pan at this price.
mr.Catlery
Quote: Aygul

I, frankly, do not even know what he was guided by when he wanted it (the consultants probably sang what wonderful dishes they have). but haven't bought it yet, and that's okay. Because personally, I see no point in buying a frying pan at this price.
Well, in how to "hum" they are masters, they have a whole school of teaching this business. How in a sane, educated, reasonable person to evoke an acute desire to buy a frying pan or saucepan at the same price is a whole science
Song
Quote: Mr. Catlery

Well, in how to "hum" they are masters, they have a whole school of teaching this business. How in a sane, educated, reasonable person to evoke an acute desire to buy a frying pan or saucepan at the same price is a whole science
You speak the truth! My neighbor retired and joined this very Zepter. My God, what happened to the man ... Now, as soon as I envy her, I cross to the other side of the road. Buy, buy, buy ... and there is only one thing on the lips and in the eyes ... It became simply impossible to communicate with her. Zombie. But she was a normal person ...
Svetta
Tovarischi, I ask the audience for help!
My Rondel frying pan is dying from expensive ones, I have been using it for almost 3 years, I love it very much. A large 24 cm dies, a small 20 cm still holds. In a large frying pan, I once stewed a beet in water - it burned down specifically (damn internet !!!), removed the burn for a long time. Then I did the same thing with carrots, recently I did "experiments" with cabbage ... In short, it lost its absolute non-stick property, although there are no scratches at all, I use only silicone and wood in it, although metal can be used on it.
So that's it. I have no strength to read the first part and all 33 pages of the second part. Please advise a replacement pan or poke me where you need to. I have an electric stove, the grill gas does not roll. I want non-stick again, maybe ceramics. There is cast iron, I don't need it.
Thank you all in advance for your answers!
Py. sy. What about the LESSNER frying pans?
Inusya
Quote: svetta

Tovarischi, I ask the audience for help!
My Rondel frying pan is dying from expensive ones, I have been using it for almost 3 years, I love it very much. Thank you all in advance for your answers!
Py. sy. What about the LESSNER frying pans?

Svetik, and I also wanted this, until I forgave the educational program (there are links in this topic) on testing this dish with our Mr. Ketleri ( )...
Then I got sick.
All 100 is tuned to Kuhar or Gourmet. And by the way, the price is normal, I thought in accordance with their quality it would be much more expensive. IMHO.
Svetta
Quote: inusha

Svetik, and I also wanted this, until I forgave the educational program (there are links in this topic) on testing this dish with our Mr. Ketleri ( )...
Then I got sick.
All 100 is tuned to Kuhar or Gourmet. And by the way, the price is normal, I thought in accordance with their quality it would be much more expensive. IMHO.
Inna, I need a non-stick frying pan, but I have a stainless steel one.
argo
Quote: svetta

Inna, I need a non-stick frying pan, but I have a stainless steel one.

so they are the same three-layer non-stick and two-layer non-stick .. two types of pans are from Kuhar ..
Inusya
Quote: svetta

Inna, I need a non-stick frying pan, but I have a stainless steel one.

Ah, well, sorry, but then when the "Wishlist" on the device works, but there is no opportunity, I really want to be happy for others ...
And I have already "sated" something with Teflon, I hope I will leave only the pancake, and when my big Tefalka is completely stricken, I will buy Kukharovskaya anyway.

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