Multicooker Mystery MCM-5014/5015

But regarding me, this fastening of the heating element also seemed strange. So is this not the correct technology for attaching / installing the heating element? An interesting picture is emerging!
Oh, apparently it's not for nothing that I strangled my Wishlist on Mystery so many times. That stopped me from buying something and that's it. My intuition is still well developed.

The heating element is located correctly - unlike others, in this way there is a circular heating throughout the bowl and natural convection of hot air inside. Another thing is if the element is pinched, then a slight darkening of the coating may occur at the point of adhesion to the surface. but this is not a defect and does not affect cooking in any way.
Everyone decides for himself whether he needs this or that gadget in the kitchen - personally, I think Mystery is the most successful model in the line of multicooker and other electric appliances.

[wangels]

wangels, You write that you are a professional and an expert in these (forgive me, all those present and the owners of these stew-pans) multicooker. Have you received any education in the field of cookware with such contact type heating elements? Or do you produce them? Or maybe you are selling? Advertising? Conduct a masterchefscooking classes in these multicooker saucepans? What do words mean

Unfortunately, I am not a representative of the company, but <...> an expert in the correct use of such devices))

Little tips from a pro:

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5. So that the bottom of the bowl above the heating element does not burn out - after each preparation, do not wash, but dry the bowl thoroughly with sunflower oil and paper towels - most of the problems with the coating are due to "Washing out the protective oily film".
<...>
This wonderful pot is not for the lazy but for the curious!

Can't be compared with my cartoon - Panasonic, a real master chef !!!
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4. When boiling soups and steaming, so that the liquid from the lid (condensation) does not pour onto the table, put a rag or put a cartoon on a tray under the corner where the drain is at the bowl. Alternatively, if you find a glass of a suitable configuration, substitute it at an angle.

Well, yes, Panasonic is for the lazy - his liquid from the lid does not pour onto the table when you cook soup in it
Well, now I will know that I am lazy and not inquisitive, because I have a coating and burns, and "The heating element is located correctly - unlike others", and even if the heating element fixing to the bowl is defective, then "this is not is a defect and does not affect cooking in any way, "well, paduma, it is pinched, and this can cause" a slight darkening of the coating at the point of adhesion to the surface. "

thus there is a circular heating throughout the bowl and natural convection of hot air inside.

You will forgive me, but with a contact fastening of the heating element, what kind of heating can be the whole more often? Heating goes exactly along this circle, and the aluminum bowl, of course, heats up then from this circle. And natural convection of hot air occurs in any volume that heats up towards lower temperatures - cold air goes down, replacing the lighter hot air.

Other manufacturers are such fools, they are trying to install heating elements not only from the bottom, but also from the sides of the bowl, to increase the number of turns, but here, it turns out, everything is simple - a contact method for attaching one circle of heating elements and, please, here you have "circular heating throughout the bowl and natural convection of hot air inside ", and this" gadget "becomes" the most successful model in the line of multicooker and other electric appliances ".
Girls, forgive me for this verbiage - I could not resist

[wangels]

wangels, You write that you are a professional and an expert in these (forgive me, all those present and the owners of these stew-pans) multicooker. Have you received any education in the field of cookware with such contact type heating elements? Or do you produce them? Or maybe you are selling? Advertising? Conduct a masterchefscooking classes in these multicooker saucepans? What do the words mean?


Well, yes, Panasonic is for the lazy - his liquid from the lid does not pour onto the table when you cook soup in it
Well, now I will know that I am lazy and not inquisitive, because my coating and burns, and "The heating element is located correctly - unlike others", and even if the heating element fixing to the bowl is defective, then "this is not is a defect and does not affect cooking in any way, "well, paduma, it is pinched, and this can cause" a slight darkening of the coating at the point of adhesion to the surface. "

You will forgive me, but with a contact fastening of the heating element, what kind of heating can be the whole more often? Heating goes exactly along this circle, and the aluminum bowl, of course, heats up then from this circle. And natural convection of hot air occurs in any volume that heats up, towards lower temperatures - cold air descends, replacing the lighter hot air.

Other manufacturers are such fools, they are trying to install heating elements not only from the bottom, but also from the sides of the bowl, to increase the number of turns, but here, it turns out, everything is simple - a contact method of attaching one circle of heating elements and, please, here you have "circular heating throughout the bowl and natural convection of hot air inside ", and this" gadget "becomes" the most successful model in the line of multicooker and other electric appliances ".
Girls, forgive me for this verbiage - I could not resist

You know, what I write - I do not grab it out of thin air, but based on my knowledge and scientific research of others. Specifically, I am familiar with people directly involved in the development of multicooker and other things - and their opinion coincides with mine. I'm not going to agitate you to do this or that - I really wanted to help, but apparently "went in the wrong place." You can continue to complain about the technique and those who produce it, I hope that this will help you in something. All the best to you.

You know, what I write - I do not grab it out of thin air, but based on my knowledge and scientific research of others. Specifically, I am familiar with people directly involved in the development of multicooker and other things - and their opinion coincides with mine.
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All the best to you.

The fact that my friend is a lawyer (very good), and we agree on many things, does not make me a lawyer (even a little bit)
And the fact that I thoroughly study scientific literature in the fields of interest to me does not make me a scientist in these fields of science, and does not even make me an expert in these fields Eeehhh, otherwise how many specialties I would have already

Aha, and all the best to you

[Manna]

Manna, write about the process and result of contacting the company. Very interesting. I think to do the same with Redber.

[Aygul]

Aygul, well, I wrote an appeal to those. Mystery's support yesterday at noon. In that appeal, she talked about how the coating changed its state during the entire period from the date of purchase. The appeal was supplemented with links to this topic (or rather, to my coverage messages in this topic). I didn’t receive an official answer, except for what is on display here (God forgive me). I hope that until did not receive. Boom wait

And sunflower oil protection is the most effective since the last century))) Only the oil is now better and does not stink as before))

This is incorrect information, far from being the most effective sunflower oil.
And it is this slip that gives reason to consider you not a very competent person in this area, despite all your statements about professionalism and so on.

Shl
I do not advise anyone to accumulate an old layer of sunflower oil on their dishes.

I looked at this slow cooker, I concluded that this is an analogue of the Tefalev Master Plov.In any case, I decided to buy it, it turns out it is more convenient there than making the same fries in an ordinary multicooker. Well, outwardly it looks more interesting. Now there is already a novelty, not a mechanic, but with buttons, it costs a little cheaper

[Girls]

Girls, I forget to tell everything ...

I received an answer from Mystery, which contained only one phrase - contact the service center. I ask, and the service center will replace my cup under warranty. Instead of my question, they received an abracadabra (inconsistency of codes). They replied to this message that, they say, do not read it. I changed the encoding and sent them the same question again. But this time there was no answer

I would be glad to go to the service, but all the documents for the stewpan remained at home. Now only in the fall ...

Well, yes, bought at the very end of autumn. In fact, by law it is not at all necessary to have a check, etc., to file a claim with an authorized service center. But, to be honest, I am very doubtful about the fulfillment of warranty obligations by this company, judging by the way they communicate in correspondence. And there is also a very big chance that at the end of the warranty period they will write off everything for a non-warranty case - I won't be able to prove to them that the coating started to burn in the second month of operation.

Maybe that's why it's worth at least trying to contact the service now, eh?

Well ... since I'm not at home, here, far from civilization with service centers ... a little bit. There's only one here. I called there, they told me that they only accept documents - they won't even talk without documents (they then need to report something - they need a coupon).

A week ago I received a response from the Mystery employee with whom I spoke earlier:
"If your situation is recognized by the Service as a Warranty case, then the service will be performed without fail.
Which one - I can’t answer, because I don’t know what is the situation with the cups (are they available and what will be the status
Your repair), since this is not really my field of activity, I can not promise you anything.
In any case, you can get a specific answer directly from the SC, since they can receive Instructions for different cases".

One thing is surprising - if an employee is not competent in these matters, why does he correspond?
But! Yesterday I received a response from Mystery Technical Support (I sent my appeal to different addresses):
"Unfortunately, it is possible that this is a marriage, you need to contact the Service Center,
coordinates can be found on our website
If there is no Service Center in your city, then you need to contact the Torg.
The organization from which the device was purchased.

We apologize for the long response time.".

This answer came exactly one month after the day I contacted them.

[Mann]

Mann, while everything is as always. No one knows anything, does not understand, does not want to do anything. Contact the SC. I’m not even surprised.

What are your next steps? As I understand it, you do not want to put up with these "age rings" on the cup cover?

[Ksyu]

Ksyuhow to put up with them? This is the burnout of the coating (bowl for disposal). As soon as I get home, I'll go to the SC. I have no other options.

Hello everyone. I have been going to the forum for a long time, but in silence. finally got some impressions about Mystery MCM-5014. I bought it in spring 2013. I rarely use it, it takes up a lot of space. From the pros: you can set a timer and temperature, and, if anything, change the temperature quickly, but you need to monitor the cooking process. Of the minuses: it burns if you don't keep track of it. And, the bottom burned out in ten after the first time, And for the first time I decided, no more, no less to bake charlotte: I poured a thick layer of dough, put it at 200 degrees ......... and with all the ensuing consequences. : girl_sad: I haven't baked since then, but I'm going to. And most importantly, after washing, some kind of plaque remains and how to remove it? .... rub with butter or something ........ In general, you need a skill to cook in it, it's a pity that the bottom has just burnt out.And about the porridge: I cooked buckwheat in water, stirring - everything is great))) Is there somewhere a place where not conversations, but recipes are direct, and it is for this MV?

the bottom burned out after the first time

This is definitely a marriage! Contact the service center.

And for the first time I decided, no more, no less, to bake charlotte: I poured a thick layer of dough, set it to 200 degrees ......... well, with all the ensuing consequences.

200 ° C - you, of course, got excited. 110 ° C is optimal. I baked cakes in the mystery (in the subject I laid out with links to recipes).

Is there somewhere a place where not talk, but recipes are straightforward, and just for this CF?

So ... the topic has links to recipes. In general ... there are so few recipes, because everyone uses it as a stewpan. Well, what recipes for a stewpan can be?

I live so far from the service that it’s easier to throw it out while I use it, I hope it’s not harmful, the bottom is actually a whole, only the shade changed the color, there is such a photo

[Endever MC-25]

Electronic analog from Kromax, only the socket is made differently

Endever MC-25, price 2.5t. R.

Do you recommend taking the 5015, a little used for a small fee? Having run through the topics diagonally, I realized that the jambs with the bowl cover ... This is an analogue of Liberty (like?) Such an unusual ... not quite a multicooker.

What about the bottom of this second-hand?

Someone knows it ... they say that it is idle, they used it a little and that's it ... It's clear, you need to look! And at the same time I'll read the topic to the end. I understood so that it is not possible to fry 2 pancakes on it for max. power. So there is not enough in the kitchen a large frying pan ... just a big one, wider than the cartoon 37501. I can't find what step of setting the temperature? And where can you buy a spare bowl?

[Mashun]

Mashun, currently the bottom of my bowl is cracked (I still tried to use it after the coating burned out). I don't use it anymore. As you understand, I didn't fry two pancakes at maximum power.

I saw horror films in the photographs ... but I thought that I could buy it to play, especially since I was thrown off the price. The cup is covered with limescale (a known problem with city water), but a spoonful of Aveev's bath cleaner - and after a minute the scale has decreased by 98%. As I wash off a couple of grease stains, I'll post a photo. It is clear that the bowl is used, but not fatal, there are no traces of overheating, water does not stay on it.
By the way, she is red with buttons

[Mashun]

Mashun, well, if after using the cup is not burnt, then T-T-T, everything is fine with it (in the sense of no marriage). It may even be better that used - the condition of the coating is already visible. Yes, yes, I'm already waiting for photos

She twisted and twisted the bowl for several minutes, it was not possible to convey its natural color: either black or glare at the camera, or even red (something with color perception is completely different ...). The first photo is very close to reality, the second is blown out. These white stripes are hardly distinguishable, but for some reason they show up very clearly in the photo. On the second, a scratch is visible in the corner. In general, how did it happen:

Here, it turned out to be photographed: red in the depressions - salt deposits, white - chipped coating. This is what the whitish stripes are made of. but again, the water rolls over them like a peach. The bottom is pimply like a toad

[Mashun]

Mashun, well, there is no burning of the coating, at least not in the photo. But the bowl is pretty much scratched. This is strange, because the coating is quite resistant. Apparently, metal spoons / shovels were used. Even two (three-, five-) year old pans do not have such scuffs. Or maybe this is how the photo made them stand out?
But what about the photo of the case? It's also interesting to see

But what about the photo of the case? It's also interesting to see

Yes, the coating seemed quite good, it is difficult to make it in a few months. Nothing, I cover it with butter, like a conscientious waffle iron - and it will be fine. I decided this: I will make fun of this bowl as I can, if I like the device as a whole, then I will find something similar, more solid.Then there is an idea how to "patch" the thermal sensor, yesterday when I was dismantling it, I looked at everything, I will make a switch so that you can set 28 and 38 degrees (for dough and for yogurt in jars) only on the screen, 50 and 60, respectively, will be displayed, I cannot change it so easily.

[I'll cover it with butter, like a conscientious waffle iron - and it will be fine.]

Yes, the coating seemed good, it is difficult to make it in a few months Nothing, I'll cover it with butter, like a conscientious waffle iron - and it will be fine.

Masha, what did you write about? How and why is this done?

[Stafa]

Stafa, this is when I washed my waffle irons with a steam cleaner and soda to "chemically pure metal", they were gray-silver, like this:

everything began to stick to them! Then I had to turn them on at idle and smear them with a brush with vegetable oil until they turned yellow a little and the oil soaked the pores. Now the plates are oily, and you can bake the waffles again with a minimum of fat in the dough. So yesterday I was furiously cleaning the bowl, washing off all the fat to bare metal, then I also cooked the "lemonade". Now you need to smear with oil, this is better than picking off a stuck cutlet. Eh, I remember the cast-iron pans ...

I will not argue, but electronics are very sensitive to power surges, but mechanics are not.
If you have protection in your apartment, then you can be calm with the electronics.

Otozh, yesterday I bought a device, but today there was nowhere to turn it on (you understand that this was only the reason) - I had to buy a second voltage regulator

Preliminary conclusions about CastrUlka:
- the plastic is so-so, although it glitters, but in itself some kind of matte ... and it's not entirely pleasant to feel, it's like with an admixture of rubber ...
- wash the case only with a soft cloth, otherwise there will be scratches,
- the color is actually not red, but with an admixture of pink or lilac: in the second photo, the illuminated side better conveyed the natural color,
- similar models (white and beige with buttons) in combination with a black outline look even worse IMHO,
- on Steaming + 100 ° for 7 minutes: it boils 1 time and does not boil anymore, on a Steamer + 100 ° it boils several times in 5 minutes (who set it for a steamer by default + 220 °?),
- steam rushing from four sides, this model is another candidate for a balcony if it blows so hot in all directions.
and I also want a cup from the inside, white or gold, like Brand's Dark coating brings melancholy ...

Then there is an idea how to "patch" the thermal sensor, yesterday when I was dismantling it, I looked at everything, I will make a switch so that I could set 28 and 38 degrees (for dough and for yogurt in jars) only on the screen, 50 and 60, respectively, will be displayed, I cannot change it so easily.

Only in any case, a silicone mat is required due to the uneven heating of the bottom

Eh, I remember the cast-iron pans ...

Yeah, I was nostalgic a couple of pages ago

- on Steaming + 100 ° for 7 minutes: it boils 1 time and does not boil anymore, on a Steamer + 100 ° it boils several times in 5 minutes (who set it for a steamer by default + 220 °?),

So, nevertheless, the electronic ones have some kind of algorithm in the modes

[resistor]

Only in any case, a silicone mat is required due to the uneven heating of the bottom

Here, there is a thick hot pad:


About the temperature sensor: it has a resistance of 87,000 ohms or so. If you unscrew the multicooker, then two wires will go from the central pimp. I want to remake this:
Was: connector - wire - sensor, will become: connector - wire - resistor - wire - sensor. I will determine the resistance of the resistor later, by experience, the main thing is that it does not change much from temperature during operation multicooker pans.

Let's go the cupcake to the oven

30 minutes at +100 and then 15 minutes at +120, because it was damp. The rug helped to cope with condensation: it flowed into the bowl, but did not get on the baked goods. They will rise 2 times, but then fell off, as a result, a sweet fat cake In the cartoon (in any of the three), and even more so in the oven, there was always a cake.

[Mashun]

Mashun, I baked in mystery only cakes for rolls (thin, so as not to cut). And a whole cake ... it seems to me that in this saucepan through the lid there is a lot of heat loss ...

Actually, no one bakes in pans. But now I will cook pasta in it, in a deep-frying grid. In multicooker, they try to escape. On the Rice / Standard program, they cook for a long time, although they are deliciously fried.

I wanted to ask: what is the difference between modes? The instruction can not even be opened. Jokingly, the French Chicken recipe looks like this: take the chicken, cook it French

On the neighboring well-known site, they finally write about some kind of valve for this model ...

Oh, what kind of valve is there? And what is the name of the regimes there? Do they really have some kind of algorithm. I was sure that some one temperature is simply maintained there, as in mechanics.

Poking around at the flea market again, found a beige one for 1000r (for 900), who needs: "Multicooker mystery msm-5016 New"
I think you will send the link further on ICQ / Skype. The topic is not new, maybe someone on the first pages wanted it, already wanted it

Oh, and I bought this frying pan, the 14th red one. Well, the amber at its lid, I'll tell you, is from the elastic of the lid. It was like that for everyone, or I got such a game.
I have a question, the instructions say that there are 2 ways to set the time:
1) if the time regulator is in the "OFF" position, the device works without a timer (without a countdown);
2) well, the second is the usual one and the timer is twisted and the temperature.
Now I'm wondering if it works, or again the instruction ... of that ...

Someone wrote that you can't cook a lot with steam ... and so, today I thought of trying on grates and a steamer tray from a 12-liter AG. Fitted perfectly! This is where you can now cook the whole fish in two tiers, and not cut it into 2-3 pieces, as in the cartoon. And the holes in the tray are smaller, the peas will not fall through, so vegetables can also be cooked!

Oh, and I bought this frying pan, the 14th red one. Well, the amber at its lid, I'll tell you, is from the elastic of the lid. It was like that for everyone, or I got such a game.
I have a question, the instructions say that there are 2 ways to set the time:
1) if the time regulator is in the "OFF" position, the device works without a timer (without a countdown);
2) well, the second is the usual one and the timer is twisted and the temperature.
Now I'm wondering if it works, or again the instruction ... of that ...

Yes, the gum scent was very persistent. And by the timer ... yes, that's how it is

Yesterday I fried potatoes on Frying 130 °, good, tasty, with a crust. I stirred it often and this time nothing stuck. Unless the microwave oven next to it was spattered in the same way that Brand standing on the second side of the micra on the Frying Meat for 3-4 cooks does not sprinkle it.
Today I cooked potatoes for steam in a deep-frying net. I put the mesh on a silicone stand (see the photo above). I chose a Steamer, 25 minutes, temperature 110 °. After 20 minutes, I came to the smell - almost 750 ml of water had boiled out of the bowl! AS??? And there were puddles on three sides of it. I'm in burnt starch at the bottom (small white - potatoes). Soaking ...

AS???

As in a frying pan on a stove with a lid ajar over high heat.

What time is it in Liberty.

I really like Liberty, but if the buttons are better

Your cells are involved in advertising

🔗

[manna]

I have Mystery MCM-5014. I have been using it for almost a year. Exclusively as a frying pan ... Fry potatoes (a lot), if only for the husband - BBK, the same story with fish ... If I hadn't hurried, I would have waited for the review manna, then I would not buy ... And it would have cost quite ... I consider it an unnecessary device with a bunch of complaints!

[manna]

I have Mystery MCM-5014. I have been using it for almost a year. Exclusively as a frying pan ... Fry potatoes (a lot), if only for the husband - BBK, the same story with fish ... If I hadn't hurried, I would have waited for the review manna, then I would not buy ... And it would have cost quite ... I consider it an unnecessary device with a bunch of complaints!

In Liberty I fry cabbage, a lot of cutlets, large scrambled eggs with tomatoes, squid. I use it as a frying pan. You can do without it, as well as many other things, so let it be

I agree, let it be!

I also have a lot of complaints, especially after the pancakes, they turned out to be so terrible So she stands on the sidelines for now, decided that her electronic filling should be picked up, maybe something worthwhile will come out of it

I cooked a cottage cheese casserole on it twice (model msm-5016) everyone liked
I was preparing in the pushing mode for 60-70 minutes, to whom it was damp (this is from moisture, you can add another 10 minutes, but the bottom burns a little.
recipe

sour cream small jar 180 grams (15 percent) for the recipe you need one hundred grams, but I used the whole jar (it turned out well)
a quarter of butter
2 eggs
a glass of sugar
a glass of semolina.
1 bag of baking powder.

grind cottage cheese with sugar.
add eggs. sour cream, baking powder. semolina.

mix everything thoroughly so that there are no lumps.
and leave for one and a half, or 3 hours so that the semolina swells.
grease the wall and bottom of the bowl with butter.
before dumping, I heat up for 2 minutes on heating mode.

Hello everyone! My name is Dima. Bought this saucepan inexpensively. So far, only positive impressions. We tried immediately as a double boiler, cook soup, cottage cheese casserole, stewed potatoes. We do not use for frying, because there is a steel pan (faberlik) for steaks and fried potatoes, and for the rest - with a non-stick coating.However, a pan with a timer is much more convenient than a regular one ...

After the first "parka" of cutlets I noticed a peculiarity. The cup should be washed very carefully and very gently. I even have a separate cloth. In general, during the first wash I found out - in a circle where the heating element is located, the water does not roll (as over the entire bowl), but lingers. At first I thought that this is exactly the problem described above - the bottom burns out, the coating is bad and all that. but it turned out that it was just not a very well rinsed bowl. After a minute of gentle stroking with microfiber from the faerie, the water began to drain normally

I have an idea that if in the first attempts to use the pan this thing is not noticed, then over time a lot of fat will stick there and will burn.

I got used to frying a chicken in this device - it's more convenient than in a frying pan. Maximum chicken fried 1.7 kg
The latter was done for 2 hours 10 minutes at a temperature of 120 degrees. In the package. I liked one of the knorr spices with garlic. It contains loose spices and a bag with a clip. If you want to repeat it, you can read the composition on the bag, buy the missing herbs and make your own seasoning.





I put a little oil in the pan and smear it with a brush. So ... just to be sure))))