Vichka
Mannochka, how is it different from yours?
Manna
Mine has a time regulator, and this one is more like Liberty.
Vichka
And what about the cup in your Mystery?
Manna
Do you remember that my bowl was on a ring with darkening after a couple of weeks of use? So ... I didn't even bother with the return / exchange. So ... no change. I rarely use it anyway (I only have cheese cakes in it, but I bake pancakes mostly, well, also cakes for rolls).
Mom_Yulia
Hello everyone!
Let me join your warm company)) I bought this miracle of household appliances yesterday, now I am studying what such and such can be cooked in it.
Model MCM-5016 with electronic control, white, there was some red color in the store, but I didn't like this one ...

In general, it was offered to me in the store as a multicooker, so I thought that all the programs in it were automatically installed, but no .. I had to adjust everything manually ..
Yesterday I cooked a pea soup - tasty and fast, today I cooked porridge with meat from two cereals (rice and buckwheat), it also turned out yummy)
By the way, in email. option after cooking, heating is turned on - 2 hours at 80 degrees. Now the porridge is standing, "ripping".
I wonder if anyone cooked in Mystery steamed? I want to try potatoes ..
Vichka
Mannochka, Is there heating in 5014?

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Model MCM-5016 with electronic control,
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What is this?
Manna
It's just that the word "multicooker" is fashionable, that's what they call everything that comes in. This, of course, is not a multicooker, but more of a stewpan. And its function is not changed by the fact that it has buttons.

Quote: VS NIKA

Mannochka, Is there heating in 5014?
What are you talking about? You bet, lope you nada degrees, and gray
Vichka
Quote: manna

What are you talking about? You bet, lope you nada degrees, and gray
Quote: Mama_Yulya

By the way, in email. option, after cooking, the heating is turned on - 2 hours at 80 degrees.
Manna
In mechanics (5014) you put everything manually
Mom_Yulia
Quote: VS NIKA


What is this?
Well, this is the one that is designated as "new" on the Yandex market, I do not know if it is possible to provide links to third-party sites.
Now I'll study how to insert a photo here, I'll show it clearly))
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Manna
Quote: VS NIKA

What is this?
HivI've already shown this

Here is:
Quote: manna

That beige turns out to be a new model - Mystery MCM-5016... Average price in Moscow approx. 3 thousand rubles
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There is exactly the same white
Mom_Yulia
Yes, yes, only in the picture is light beige, but in the store it was more of a reddish hue ... Although, maybe there are beige ones.
We have exactly 4,000 of them.
Manna
Ksyuyuyu!

ENDEVER MC-22 , price - approx. 2.5t. R.
Multicooker Mystery MCM-5014/5015

There is also a white one, like Liberty
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Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: manna

Ksyuyuyu!

You're my dear!

I understand that from Kromax, right?

Mann, what do you think, is it like without a timer? Normul? Well, people use it. Do you finally need this timer or can you live without it?
A bit of lyrics. We went here on the 10th for a draw in one shopping and entertainment center. The main prize is a multicooker. But it was painted in general, some sort of futuristic, that is, not existing. It turned out that three braziers of Mystery were playing - like everything red. But we, alas, did not win. Somehow, fate is taking me away from her. In our M-video, they are now standing in bulk, red. And so in the shops there are all sorts of different, and white, and ivory, and mechanics, and buttons. But now I will come up, take a look, stroke my sides and go on. Did you feel better? I already need this to?
Manna
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

I understand that from Kromax, right?

Mann, what do you think, is it like without a timer? Normul? Well, people use it.Do you finally need this timer or can you live without it?
Yeah, cromax.
I don't use a timer at all. I use it for pancakes, cutlets. I baked the cake a couple of times (for this, of course, a timer is better, but it bakes quickly in 10 minutes). I dont know, KsyunechkaFor what purposes do you need this stewpan. I most often use it for pancakes. But my bowl began to darken even more, the stain grows. I already thought we could clean the stain with soda. Did not help
Manna
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: manna

Girls, my bowl darkened in the place around the circumference where it warms most. Somehow, at first, I did not notice darkening, and then after a couple of times frying the pancakes, how did the bowl get burnt or what?


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Mann, but what does the bowl look like from the back under the spiral? Has it also darkened?
Manna
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Mann, but what does the bowl look like from the back under the spiral? Has it also darkened?
No, on the reverse side, the heating element is right along this circle.
And here's what the stain looks like now
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innesss-ka
Hey everyone! I somehow looked at the liberty frying pan, but did not dare (the lack of a timer embarrassed well, and so-so reviews about it), and now we have mystery 5016 on sale and the Wishlist played out again! Here you have a timer and "buttons" And if I understood correctly (from the instructions), then the difference from mechanics is that the t-ra is from 50 degrees (versus 80 in 5014). Here the question interests: what to cook on it? I’m thinking, theoretically, can yogurt work? If the bottom is covered with a silicone mat, for example, and thereby reduce the heating? I read that in yogurt makers they are so saved from overheating. Who has any thoughts on this? And if it is useful to me both as a frying pan and as a yoghurt maker (!), Then the issue will be solved by itself! (I have a normal slow cooker and a pressure cooker, I have no illusions about the mystery - I need a frying pan and a yogurt maker).
Tanyulya
Quote: innesss-ka

Hey everyone! I somehow looked at the liberty frying pan, but did not dare (the lack of a timer embarrassed well, and so-so reviews about it), and now we have mystery 5016 on sale and the Wishlist played out again! Here you have a timer and "buttons" And if I understood correctly (from the instructions), then the difference from mechanics is that the t-ra is from 50 degrees (versus 80 in 5014). Here the question interests: what to cook on it? I’m thinking, theoretically, can yogurt work? If the bottom is covered with a silicone mat, for example, and thereby reduce the heating? I read that in yogurt makers they are so saved from overheating. Who has any thoughts on this? And if it is useful to me both as a frying pan and as a yoghurt maker (!), Then the issue will be solved by itself! (I have a normal slow cooker and a pressure cooker, I have no illusions about the mystery - I need a frying pan and a yogurt maker).
Well, this is what kind of carpet you need to lay, so that at a heating temperature of 50 degrees, you get the desired temperature, a maximum of 40-42. Yogurt in this cartoon is not realistic to make. The electric kettle will get excellent
kubanochka
Quote: manna

Oh, Kubanochkadid I seduce you? And my coating is badly burnt. I really hope that this will pass you by
Me, of course me. I have been looking at this device for a long time. But your roll put an end to my doubts. It is unlikely that the burnt coating will pass me. I have Tefalev's "Master-pilaf" (the progenitor of such stew-pans), there is the same song. But for a while it will please me, and then, you see, and something else will come up with. There will be a reason to buy a new toy
Manna
Yeah, yeah, I'm already looking in the direction of the new toy, but while I'm waiting for the complete death of this And the cakes for rolls, I like the oven in this stewpan
Agata21
Girls, in the instructions they write that in the grill mode you do not need to pour anything into the pan. Has anyone tried it?
Manna
Girls, this question has already been answered three times on 29 pages. If your health and the coating of the bowl are valuable to you, then you should not heat the non-stick coating dry at high temperatures.
Karri
Girls, hello!
They gave me and my daughter Mystery 5014 on NG.It was such a difficult beginning of the year - in general, only now we got around to disassemble the tree and pull this unit out of the box is no longer just to "poop", but to try. I am a beginner in these devices, and in independent cooking, too, is more a theoretician and dreamer, since we do not live as a separate family, and my mother and grandmother are in charge of the kitchen. They use the dryer in their own way, the airfryer too (I would say they are afraid of it), and Mystery red is legally mine! The cub wants fries first thing, and I liked the recipe for porridge on page 27, but I don’t know yet how to approach, how much to take. I read the whole topic, but there are not many specific recipes in it at all - maybe you will share your experience? I really want to play with cooking, especially with children's food, while my child and I can now be alone without "control from above" (which before us leaves for the dacha).
Karri
Well, I’ll share the first experience I got hastily. For dinner we made buckwheat with dried vegetables and sausage "flowers" in a pot. As they wrote on page 27, they poured water according to the mark, put a cloth on the bottom, and put a pot on it. We set the temperature to 160 and the timer for an hour. Our aggregate boiled very interestingly - noiselessly, within the circle outlined by the heating element, in waves - that is, for a short time, the water smoothly boiled from rest to foamy lambs, and then for a short time it still smoothly faded away. Accordingly, the heating indicator turned on and off. It all looked VERY beautiful inside the bowl, you look at the water boiling in an even circle, like a fire in a fireplace. In an hour, the porridge was ready (maybe a little earlier), even with the sausages, the aroma when opening the pot was uniquely appetizing. I don’t know, however, how much electricity I burned, but tomorrow I’ll put wheat porridge in milk in the morning, I didn’t even drain the water. During the first use, there was no smell at all. Unlike an airfryer - it has been exuding a plastic "aroma" for the second year already. Yes, Mystery, it turned out that I only have red on the box. But in reality she is snow white And her lid, if put as in the picture, does not fit snugly, but if you turn it 90 degrees, then it is perfect. Probably, the handle was not so attached to it. When boiling, nothing dripped (as someone wrote above), it did not leak, steam was from the front corners, but moderate. My daughter ate all the porridge with the addition - she said that it was as super tasty as the soldier's one, which they were fed at school on May 9
In general, I really liked the size of the bowl - I have no, no, in pans, and something will fly out over the side while stirring, and here there is space and beauty. And our electric stove heats the burners unevenly, until it disperses, until it dies down - you will be tortured with her whims, I will use Mystery for now and compare.
Manna
Katerina, welcome to the forum! Congratulations on your assistant!

Yesterday I wrote and wrote you an answer, but I could not send it. And here you have already experienced everything yourself

Here's what I tried to write yesterday:

I would not cook porridge directly in the bowl of this saucepan - I'm afraid it may burn around the heating element. And this is how I cooked porridge Luky-elena You can also try:
Quote: Luky-elena

In general, I cooked milk porridge, millet in it, but only in a pot, damn such a cool thing turned out. In general, I took it and poured millet + milk into the pot. In the cartoon water is cold to the mark, at the bottom of a towel on a pot. The cooking program (which did not change 150 C as it was and set it) time 50 minutes, closed the multi-lid came when it squeaked. My family licked their fingers.
Put a towel, napkin, silicone mat, oven mitt on the bottom of the bowl. Put a pot or a simple jar of the appropriate height on it. In a jar - cereal and liquid (water, milk) in a ratio of 1: 4, I think. Plus sugar, dried fruits, fruits, berries ... whatever your heart desires. Pour water into the bowl of a saucepan (preferably warm - it will boil faster) about 0.5-1 liters. Turn on the stewpan first at 150 ° C, so that it boils faster, and then you can reduce it to 100 ° C (so that it gurgles slightly). And you can immediately set it to 100 ° C.And for 1 hour (more can be). So you can cook porridge in several jars, different for each family member to taste.
Karri
Manna Thank you very much for your tips and participation! I came to the forum for a long time, but all the time from the bushes, I read mainly about dryers.
It did not occur to me that you can do several different cereals at once at the same time, and even in jars! I understand that they need to be left open? Today I made wheat in the morning, again in a pot immersed in a bowl of water - it turned out well, but just with the liquid I miscalculated, the porridge "ate" all the milk, then after the first portion I had to add milk to the pot and cook. With milk porridge on our electric stove, my friendship does not grow together, no matter how much I tried. I wonder how much a 30-year-old stove "eats", maybe I shouldn't worry about eating Mystery's electricity?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Karri

I wonder how much a 30-year-old stove "eats", maybe I shouldn't worry about eating Mystery's electricity?
Catherine, definitely in vain. With a gas stove, an increase in electricity consumption will be noticeable, and that is not critical. And with an electric one, you shouldn't worry about it at all.
Manna
Quote: Karri

Today I made wheat in the morning, again in a pot immersed in a bowl of water - it turned out well, but just with the liquid I miscalculated, the porridge "ate" all the milk, then after the first portion I had to add milk to the pot and cook.
And you do not add pure milk, but milk + water. So the cereal is boiled better.

And about the electricity consumption of the old stove and stewpan ... Definitely, the old electric stove "eats" much more "appetizing"
Oksana1999
Girls, I want to thank you for your feedback about the multicooker. I bought 5016 yesterday and still love it. But I bought more as a frying pan and it fully met my expectations.
Manna
Girls, the soul could not resist poet... I will write in those. support for Mystery. The coverage was just creepy. I'll see what they say to me about this disgrace. At the same time, let's see how Mystery works with clients
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Reason for editing: photo recovery
Tanyulya
Liberty and I don't have that, but I really only fry pancakes in her.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Mannyash, sad! And from the inside out there is no burning out?
Manna
Quote: Tanyulya

Liberty and I don't have that, but I really only fry pancakes in her.
So after all, I also most often have pancakes ... A couple of times a week ... It happens less often ...

Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Mannyash, sad! And from the inside out there is no burning out?
So ... as you look from the inside out, you can burn the heating element
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
And through it you can't see what's underneath, is there a trace? The spot is rather wide on the surface. I thought that maybe there is also a bezel from the inside out.
Manna
Not, Ksyu, at her bottom like this
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Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
This type of "insulation" of the heating element apparently gives such an effect. Is it the same in liberty? Tan, more question for you, probably
Tanyulya
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

This type of "insulation" of the heating element apparently gives such an effect. Is it the same in liberty? Tan, more question for you, probably
Teng is arranged in the same way and heating goes in a circle, but so far there are no changes in the surface of the bowl. But I rarely use it.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
All this is strange.

For some reason, other users are silent, do not write anything about Mystery at all.

What about their coverage? Hey, users other than Manna, please respond !!!!
Manna
Ksyu, I met only one message about burnout on the forum
wangels
I have been using it for a long time and am very satisfied with Mystery MCM-5014
Can't be compared with my cartoon - Panasonic, a real master chef !!! Baking turns out faster and better than in the oven, stews, cooks, roasts - wonderful! Nothing burns, I don't use any silicone mats.
Optimally, frying at 160 degrees, baking at 120 degrees, cooking soups at 240 until boiling, then switch to 100.
Buckwheat: pour the cereal with water higher on the floor of the phalanx of the finger, salt a little - bring to a boil at 240 gr.set the temperature to 120 and cook for another 30 minutes. Then at 80 degrees for 1 hour for simmering. - deliciousness!
Mushroom pizza - in sunflower oil, 160 gr. fry chopped onions in half rings - 1 head and 6 large mushrooms.
Prepare the dough: 2 glasses of flour, a tablespoon of sugar, a pinch of salt, 1 packet of doctor otcher baking powder, 1 egg, pour in a little water and knead until thick sour cream.
Remove the toasted mixture from the bowl with a slotted spoon, heat the bowl with the remaining oil to 16 °, lay out the resulting dough, smooth with a spoon along the bottom. Put 2 tablespoons of Lecho ketchup on top, smooth over the entire surface of the dough and evenly spread the onion-mushroom mixture on top. Spread 1 tomato previously cut into slices. Close the lid and set the temperature to 120 gr. bake for 30 minutes, then sprinkle with grated cheese and bake for another 10 minutes - Delicious!
Very convenient - there are no limitations of imagination in anything! Two levels for simultaneous cooking.
Little tips from a pro:
1. For good baking, preheat the bowl 160g. greased with oil - after setting the test, translate to 120.
2. Advice to those who have not bought yet - buy only with mechanical control. Push-buttons quickly fail.
3. Be sure to use foil for grilling - covering the entire bowl.
4. When boiling soups and steaming, so that the liquid from the lid (condensation) does not pour onto the table, put a rag or put a cartoon on a tray under the corner where the drain is at the bowl. Alternatively, if you find a glass of a suitable configuration, place it at an angle.
5. So that the bottom of the bowl above the heating element does not burn out - after each preparation, do not wash, but dry the bowl thoroughly with sunflower oil and paper towels - most of the problems with the coating are due to "Washing out the protective oily film".
6. Use only silicone and wooden spatulas, etc. - take care of the coating))
This wonderful pot is not for the lazy but for the curious!
Ask questions - don't be shy
Manna
Quote: wangels

I have been using it for a long time and am very satisfied with Mystery MCM-5014
Can't be compared with my cartoon - Panasonic, a real master chef !!!
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Little tips from a pro:
1. For good baking, preheat the bowl to 160 g. greased with oil - after setting the test, translate to 120.
wangels, Are you company representative? Welcome to the forum!

Do you actually heat the bowl at 160 ° C before baking? How long does it take? Doesn't the oil smoke? And then you really bake at 120 ° C without a rug? Can you see photos of the bottom of such baked goods?

Quote: wangels

3. Be sure to use foil for grilling - covering the entire bowl.
Are you actually dry-heating the non-stick bowl at 240 ° C?

Quote: wangels

5. So that the bottom of the bowl above the heating element does not burn out - after each preparation, do not wash, but dry the bowl thoroughly with sunflower oil and paper towels - most of the problems with the coating are due to "Washing out the protective oily film".
Are you seriously? Is this really the official answer to my questions about coating fade?
wangels
Quote: manna

wangels, Are you company representative? Welcome to the forum!

Do you actually heat the bowl at 160 ° C before baking? How long does it take? Doesn't the oil smoke? And then you really bake at 120 ° C without a rug? Can you see photos of the bottom of such baked goods?
Are you actually drying a non-stick bowl at 240 ° C?
Are you seriously? Is this really the official answer to my questions about coating burnout?
Unfortunately, I am not a representative of the company - but an active user of this technique, as well as an expert in the correct use of such devices)) If you use the technique correctly from the beginning, problems will never arise. Unfortunately, the instructions for this cartoon as well as the "recipe book" are set to the opposite.The first thing I did after buying it was to throw out the instructions and the plastic spoon from the kit))
Plastic cannot be used !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Preheating the bowl helps the dough to bake more evenly without burning)) It is enough to warm it up before the green backlight is turned off for the first time. The rug really doesn't use a rug and paper - a well oiled (not washed) surface creates a protective film on the surface - so nothing sticks or burns. When I have something else to bake, I will show a photo)) Everything is very even in color)) The same applies to the grill - a protective oil film protects the surface during strong heat, the foil protects the surface from splashes and further burning, But of course it is better not to get carried away))
As for your bowl, yes, this is a classic case of improper care of the bowl surface))
And I think that in the company they will tell you the same, if only they themselves understand the technology there, that it is somehow doubtful when looking at a book with instructions)))))))))))))))
Manna
Quote: wangels

As for your bowl, yes, this is a classic case of improper care of the bowl surface))
That is, the cover of my bowl is burnt because I washed it - is this the wrong care?
Do I understand correctly that proper care is not washing the non-stick bowl after use? Like grandma's aluminum pans ... with a thick layer of "protective greasy film"
Manna
Listen, I was thinking, why is there a nonstick coating in this bowl? To drain it off, and there will be an aluminum grandmother's stewpan, and then we will create in it, according to all the rules for using aluminum pans, an oil protective non-stick film, which should not be washed with a soapy sponge so that the film does not wash off, but simply rinse, watching how more and more this very film thickens ... And then boil this bowl in a tub or bake it in the oven so that the greaves fall off from it ... Nastalgia ...
wangels
Quote: manna

That is, the cover of my bowl is burnt because I washed it - is this the wrong care?
Do I understand correctly that proper care is not washing the non-stick bowl after use? Like grandma's aluminum pans ... with a thick layer of "protective greasy film"
In fact - washing the bowl does not harm, but the subsequent heating, so to speak, "Dry" does harm and even very much.
Our grandmothers used cast-iron pans and they were so oiled - that the coating was better than Teflon and others - everything bounced off by itself. The myth that Teflon can be fried without oil is a myth. No coating can last long without protection. And sunflower oil protection is the most effective since the last century))) Only the oil is now better and does not stink like before))
Manna
And who said that I fried without oil? I always use butter when heating such coatings, and then periodically brush it with a brush when baking pancakes.

I've been using non-stick coatings on all kinds of bowls, pans, and molds for years. This is the first time such a burnout occurs. I used non-stick frying pans for frying pancakes and fritters for two to three years. There was no such disgrace on them. And this began to fade after a month (!) Of use.
wangels
Quote: manna

And who said that I fried without oil? I always use butter when heating such coatings, and then periodically brush it with a brush when baking pancakes.

I've been using non-stick coatings on all kinds of bowls, pans, and molds for years. This is the first time such a burnout occurs. I used non-stick frying pans for frying pancakes and fritters for two to three years. There was no such disgrace on them. And this began to fade after a month (!) Of use.
In this multicooker, the heating principle is contact, that is, the heating element is in direct contact with the bowl. In any other - there is no direct contact. Therefore, a stronger contact heating occurs precisely at the point of contact with the bowl. Therefore, caring for her should be somewhat different. In your case, the thickness of the bottom of the bowl may still be insufficient due to a factory defect.Initially, the heating element should not be pressed into the bottom of the bowl - for good reason, it should be held by the side mounts and there should be a gap of 1 - 0.5 mm between it and the bowl. If you look at the clearance and there is no gap - this is a factory defect, although it is not critical with proper care))
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
I beg your pardon, can I get into your discussion?
The question of whether or not to wash the bowl in which food is prepared is unambiguous for me - wash! Personally, I wash everything that food comes into contact with.
But about
Quote: wangels

Initially, the heating element should not be pressed into the bottom of the bowl - for good reason, it should be held by the side mounts and there should be a gap of 1 - 0.5 mm between it and the bowl. If you look at the clearance and there is no gap - this is a factory defect, although it is not critical with proper care))
I also found this mounting of the heating element strange.
Quote: manna

Not, Ksyu, at her bottom like this
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So is this not the correct technology for attaching / installing the heating element? An interesting picture is emerging!
But I have no doubt about Manna's ability to properly handle kitchen appliances. And she wrote about soaking the bowl with oil more than once.
Oh, apparently it's not for nothing that I strangled my Wishlist on Mystery so many times. That stopped me from buying something and that's it. My intuition is still well developed.

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