Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)

But I chose specifically with a dispenser, 10 years of experience using lg suggested that the dispenser for additional. components are a useful thing. But this is for me. And also metal played a plus to the choice 02. The only thing I would like from Bork is two buckets for baking.
P.S. there was a lg book with recipes, one of the first of which, you can somehow, for example, change the order of bookmarking products, use on Panasonic ???

P.S. there was a lg book with recipes, one of the first of which, you can somehow, for example, change the order of bookmarking products, use on Panasonic ???

Sure you may

I have a 257 with a dispenser, so I don't use it (I can only put raisins), or rather I turn it on, and when I see that it is open I add (onion, or cheese, etc.).
because it was like the fact that a couple of raisins did not fall into the bucket, there was a burning smell, and now these places where they burned, stains remained.
and then, I often bake regular bread

Well, at the expense of "... it fits well ...", you can advise more carefully. Moreover, the bread maker is not yours. Where 242 and 250 are on the way. I will not recommend a stabilizer to you. And the question is not about the effect on baking, but on the health of the bread machine itself.

Where 250 is on the way, not a stabilizer is needed, but a showdown with electricians. Estimate the consumption of the entire apartment and look at the cost of the corresponding stabilizer ...

I have a 257 with a dispenser, so I don't use it (I can only put raisins), or rather I turn it on, and when I see that it is open I add it (onion, or cheese, etc.).
because it was like the fact that a couple of raisins did not fall into the bucket, there was a burning smell, and now these places where they burned, stains remained.
and then, I often bake regular bread

And we love buns with raisins, so I chose 2501 ... dough for the night in the morning I bake buns with raisins, dried apricots, poppy seeds ...: drinks: MIRACLE !!!

And we love buns with raisins, so I chose 2501 ... dough for the night in the morning I bake buns with raisins, dried apricots, poppy seeds ...: drinks: MIRACLE !!!

And then the black currant is ripe and other berries SUPER !!!

I also often use a raisin dispenser. And you never know what to add and you don't have to wait for any beeps, he will throw everything himself and gently mix into the dough (and will not hit the bucket on the walls). Let it be better!

["... because it was like the fact that a couple of raisins did not get into the bucket, there was a burning smell, and now these places where they burned, stains remain ..."]

I also often use a raisin dispenser. And you never know what to add and you don't have to wait for any beeps, he will throw everything himself and gently mix into the dough (and will not hit the bucket on the walls). Let it be better!

Everything will fit in, as usual: with or without beeps. Well, about the accuracy of the quote from the answer above:"... because it was like the fact that a couple of raisins did not get into the bucket, there was a burning smell, and now these places where they burned, stains remain ..."

Where 250 is on the way, not a stabilizer is needed, but a showdown with electricians. Estimate the consumption of the entire apartment and look at the cost of the corresponding stabilizer ...

Before parsing with electricians everything will burn in fig! According to the court, the cost of CP and LCD TV can be collected ... in 3 ... 4 years. And at the cost of stubs are for any wallet. Too lazy to google? I gave the link offhand only the first one I came across. The cost is several times less HP. I finally keep quiet about the TV set.

Where 250 is on the way, not a stabilizer is needed, but a showdown with electricians. Estimate the consumption of the entire apartment and look at the cost of the corresponding stabilizer ...

The overwhelming majority of members of the forum still live in the USSR What kind of showdown, what are you ...

["... because it was like the fact that a couple of raisins did not get into the bucket, there was a burning smell, and now these places where they burned, stains remain ..."]

Everything will fit in, as usual: with or without beeps.Well, about the accuracy of the quote from the answer above:"... because it was like the fact that a couple of raisins did not get into the bucket, there was a burning smell, and now these places where they burned, stains remain ..."

I meant that (they wrote above) they put the ingredients in an open dispenser or when you have time to knead. And the raisins have never flown past. In my Moulinex it squeaks when you need to add raisins, and the rotation speed of the mixers does not decrease, and in Panasonic, if the raisins are laid during the time, the scapula first slowly rotates, and then increases the speed and the raisins gently interfere with the dough. Therefore, I like my 2502 more in this case (I laid it and forgot).

Still, it was that after opening the dispenser I did not close, the top rose to the roof, and pressed the "dispenser plate" and the view is not very good and wash the same way. in my opinion, this is not finalized, why doesn't it close itself back after triggering?

Too lazy to google? I gave the link offhand only the first one I came across. The cost is several times less HP. I finally keep quiet about the TV set.

Oh well...

This is for the apartment: 🔗

This one is for one HP: 🔗

And yet, personally checked, ~ 4 years on the refrigerator, 🔗

You can, of course, "Ketai" cheap box, but not the fact that the stove and TV will work ...

The overwhelming majority of members of the forum still live in the USSR What kind of showdown, what are you ...

Finally, there are precedents. But, I agree, it's better not to get to that. You can exhaust all the veins.

[Lagri]

Still, it was that after opening the dispenser I did not close, the top rose to the roof, and pressed the "dispenser plate" and the view is not very good and wash the same way. in my opinion, this is not finalized, why doesn't it close itself back after triggering?

Lagri, this is for you. Forgetting is harmful

You can, of course, "Ketai" cheap box, but not the fact that the stove and TV will work ...

First, figure out where this "ketai" box was made. And what do you want to prove? Stabs are bullshit? How is it easier to spend money on them to sit down and pray? Your voltage up to 270V does not jump? How lucky you are! You are like that queen: "What ??? The people are starving? There is no bastard? So let them eat buns !!!" Let's close the topic! I'm tired!

[Lagri]

Lagri, this is for you. Forgetting is harmful

Wit, I bake bread from 300 grams of flour and it does not threaten me.

[Wit]

Wit, I bake bread from 300 grams of flour and it does not threaten me.

I didn’t start this conversation, you joined, as it were. So there's nothing to rage ..

A quality stabilizer isn't cheap.

NOT all stabilizers are suitable for use with home appliances. For example, relay, step ..

The criterion for using the stabilizer is NOT your own inventions, or reading a non-core forum. Measuring voltage with a cheap tester

The use of a stabilizer at a reduced mains voltage significantly increases the load on the supply network.

The response time of the stabilizer must be less than the duration of the voltage pulse in the network exceeding the nominal value, otherwise the use of this particular device becomes meaningless.

With sim I take my leave.

NOT all stabilizers are suitable for use with home appliances. For example, relay, step ..

It's a delusion. An example is the EKN-600 stabilizer (electronic voltage corrector) known since the 90s.
Its principle is quite simple and it is stepwise; then there was no inverter at all. A block of triacs that "pull" the transformer windings, controlled by the simplest network monitoring node, and all this worked perfectly for a load in the form of a TV, tape recorder and EPU. Those Chinese-made relay stubs, which the market is flooded with, are not much different from EKN and they work perfectly with all household appliances.
And to protect against overvoltage, a protective relay of the RN-113 type is used in front of the stub

Alas, the problems with such stubs are personal experience ..
Your example is not proof, Triac switching occurs at the moment of zero crossing, which reduces the noise at the output of the stabilizer.Unlike purely relay devices.

In general, specifically: when working HP Panasonic models 255-257 in conjunction with similar stabilizers often "buggy". The interference is probably causing the control unit to malfunction. There are no statistics on the new 2500 2501 yet ....

To protect against undervoltage and overvoltage, we put these - UZM-51

[Andrzej nov]

Andrzej nov I have HP connected to the APC 1000 Smart-UPS v / s relay UPS, no problems

Fine ..

I looked at the links to the stabilizers, thanks. Calm is really recommended on other sites. I am not too lazy to google, but I came to the forum for advice, to find out who connects through what HP and other equipment, who has experience ... If before the power supplies did not care about the shape of the input voltage, now give some sinusoid.
I don't remember what happened in the USSR - it was too small. I am preparing for the next showdown with electricians, I write down the readings of voltmeters (I have several of them - for every taste and color), the UPS also keeps a log. Last year, a week after the start of my walks along the lines, the substation managed to completely burn out, and until now there were no problems specifically on my line. Rumor has it that due to the thin Soviet wires, electricians intentionally raise the voltage in houses in order to reduce the current consumption at the same load. How true this is - I don't know.
I will not flood more off topic. Excuse me.

Tell me, what is the difference between Panasonic sd - 2501 and Panasonic 2501wts? If already discussed, I'm sorry, send to the topic

Tell me, what is the difference between Panasonic sd - 2501 and Panasonic 2501wts? If already discussed, I'm sorry, send to the topic

Please read the above, at least a couple of pages, there are answers to your question, and even more

We have an electronic stabilizer for ALL electrically dependent devices, more precisely, connected to the switchgear. flap. Domestic, "Resanta", no overpayment for imports and reliable. In winter, there used to be a cheerful tension at 145. It's hard to imagine, and it is not necessary.

Please read the above, at least a couple of pages, there are answers to your question, and even more

I read it, didn’t read anything on my question. The fact is that SD-2501 is written on my stove, as well as on the manual, there are no WXC letters. This was very confusing ...

I read it, didn’t read anything on my question.

It's the same thing, it's just a mistake - the laziness of sales managers. Full name HP SD-2501WTS 🔗 for the CIS market, for Europe at the end of the other letters.

[Wxc]

SD-2500Wxc this is for Europe https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=126137.0

This is the same thing, just a mistake - the laziness of sales managers.

Oh, thanks a lot! Already I began to think that the left stove got ...

Today I made the dough on the Pelmeni mode in the x / stove, I would not say that it was very cool, so she had to help and add some water (she was afraid that something would break). Yes ... my Panasonic is doing something bad with a steep dough (it even happened that the scapula stagnated in place and had to help several times). And Moulinex calmly kneads such a dough. Maybe this is because Mulinex has a capacity of 1650, and Panasonic has 550? The dough was kneaded, of course, but I was surprised.

Moulinex has a capacity of 1650

This power refers to ten ...

Clear. Why can't he cope then?

Disassemble and compare both .. The only way

* JOKINGLY * This is not an option ...

Yes ... my Panasonic is doing something bad with a steep dough (it even happened that the scapula stagnated in place and had to help several times).

Do not pay attention, nothing will HP. Often I knead steep dough and nothing She is not afraid of stopping the scapula. In extreme cases, the motor protection will trip

[sazalexter]

Do not pay attention, nothing will HP. Often I knead steep dough and nothing She is not afraid of stopping the scapula. In extreme cases, the motor protection will trip

sazalexter, thanks, reassured. And your shoulder blades also stop if the dough is steep? Or do not you need to knead the hard dough, that is, do not abuse it?

Another tip "from the realm of fantasy" is to buy a kneader.

I liked the answer where it is advised to dissect both stoves. And if you are scared for Panasonic on the dumplings mode, try to bookmark 75% of the norm. The gingerbread man will be the same dense, but smaller in size. Instead of one batch, make two 75% of the norm.And you will not worry about the stove, and you will be with dumplings.

[Creamy]

Another tip "from the realm of fantasy" is to buy a kneader.

There is no more room for unnecessary equipment, all the shelves are already packed. I like to knead the dough only in a bread maker. I have them so 2. Where else is the kneader? Thanks for the advice.

I liked the answer where it is advised to dissect both stoves. And if you are scared for Panasonic on the dumplings mode, try to bookmark 75% of the norm. The gingerbread man will be the same dense, but smaller in size. Instead of one batch, make two 75% of the norm. And you will not worry about the stove, and you will be with dumplings.

I was already kneading the dough for only 300 grams of flour. Of course, Creamy, this is a way out, but still did not expect from Panasonic. When I added liquid and the dough became softer, the stove began to knead quietly as usual, otherwise with a steep dough and the sound changed and began to creak and the scapula tinkled like a sick one.

I was faced with the fact that the dough for dumplings, which are molded by hand, can be kneaded soft enough. Apparently, it can be kneaded in full in Panasonic. But specifically, the noodle dough, which is thinly rolled for forms, will have to be kneaded with your hands. That is, knead the dough a little softer, and then knead with the ruts. Anyway, the technician will do most of the work.

... the dough for dumplings, which are molded by hand, ... you can knead in full measure in Panasonic. But specifically, the noodle dough, which is thinly rolled for forms, will have to be kneaded with your hands. That is, knead the dough a little softer, and then knead with ruts. Anyway, the technician will do most of the work.

I do the same, then manually stir the noodle dough to the coolest state, which does not require adding flour.

Dear Panasonic drivers. Tell me please. The bread is baked, but the smell is not at all bready. It smells like burnt plastic and burnt. This is the first HP test. Should I worry? Or will it pass?

Do not worry too much, maybe flour spilled a little on the heating elements during kneading. or the heating elements were in technical lubrication. But still, be near, watch.

[Mesuri]

Mesuri, do not worry. Something like that happens in Panasonic, as you correctly put it, a non-bread smell. This usually stops after a few bakes. I had this, and, I felt this smell for sooo long (several weeks). True, I suspect that the reason here was the selective "scent", I was more susceptible to this smell. It did not affect the bread.

I also had a smell of plastic for the first baking. The factory grease burns, they say. I even smelled bread in bread, and much longer than others. But then it passed. It is also recommended to run the "baking" mode without a bucket. Until the smell disappears. But I didn’t resort to it, firstly I didn’t know it yet, and secondly it’s uneconomical somehow, not in Russian XD / Yes, and I really wanted bread, long-awaited, there was no time for all this.
I was the first to bake in general on fast mode))) I wanted so badly) Where are there blank baked goods

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, thanks, reassured. And your shoulder blades also stop if the dough is steep? Or do not you need to knead the hard dough, that is, do not abuse it?

The scapula almost stops. But I don't pay attention to it. What will happen to her? She is iron

It smells like burnt plastic and burnt. This is the first HP test. Should I worry? Or will it pass?

... and it'll pass. I smelled pretty strong of burnt plastic the first few baked goods. I found two thin burrs on the black plastic at the bottom of the HP, tore it off. Then she baked a cake for about 1.5 hours - after this program it smelled much less, there was no need to even ventilate.