arini
Just today I made pancakes, but with sour milk. There is very little raisins and sugar, in my opinion, although the dough turned out a little. Ate together without straining. But the dough turned out to be normal in fluidity.
Lena2015
maybe my scales are buggy
Waist70
Quote: Stafa

What was wrong with that loaf?
How many garlic I didn’t put, that dry, that wet - so the smell of garlic from the bread and did not wait.
And I baked bread with onions so now my family demands it for: girl_claping: BIS in a day !!! YUMMY!
Waist70
Quote: Rina

For GOST pancakes, the ratio of liquid to flour is approximately 1: 1 by weight. After proofing, it turns out to be not fluid, but not dense either. So, on a spoon and from a spoon, a big bloop falls
Explain, please ... In the instructions in the recipes it says "YEAST-B" and "YEAST -R" what are these features?
Wit
Quote: Waist70

Explain, please ... In the instructions in the recipes it says "YEAST-B" and "YEAST -R" what are these features?
B - for regular baking
R - for accelerated baking.
There is a link at the bottom of the instruction page
sazalexter
Quote: Waist70

Explain, please ... In the instructions in the recipes it says "YEAST-B" and "YEAST -R" what are these features?
read https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4844.0
And for general information https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=94759.0
arini
Quote: Lena2015

maybe my scales are buggy
After the purchase, I immediately put a pack of sugar on my scales for control, showed a kilo and 10 grams, estimated that paper weighs about 10 grams, that is, it is measured more or less accurately.
Wit
Quote: arini

After the purchase, I immediately put a pack of sugar on my scales for control, showed a kilo and 10 grams, estimated that about 10 grams of paper and weighs, that is, they measure more or less accurately.
Weigh a 10-ruble coin on a scale. Its weight is 8.2g. This means that 5 coins will weigh exactly 41 grams.
You can have some fun here with different coins: Good luck!
Waist70
Quote: Wit

B - for regular baking
R - for accelerated baking.
There is a link at the bottom of the instruction page
for the usual and for the accelerated I understood it .... and WHAT IS THE PECULIARITY OF YEAST IN WHAT THEY DIFFER "B" FROM "R"
Wit
Quote: Waist70

for the usual and for the accelerated I understood it .... and WHAT IS THE PECULIARITY OF YEAST HOW DO THEY DIFFER "B" FROM "R"
Absolutely nothing.
This is the same yeast that you are used to using to bake your bread.
The only difference is in the dosage of yeast when baking bread for different programs.

1. Amount of yeast B is intended for baking bread according to the Main (basic) cycle (program) BREAD.
2. The amount of yeast R is intended for baking bread according to the accelerated cycle (program) BREAD RAPID. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4844.0


reason for editing: link correction
Waist70
Quote: Wit

Absolutely nothing.
This is the same yeast that you are used to using to bake your bread.
The only difference is in the dosage of yeast when baking bread for different programs.

1. Amount of yeast B is intended for baking bread according to the Main (basic) cycle (program) BREAD.
2. The amount of yeast R is intended for baking bread according to the accelerated cycle (program) BREAD RAPID. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4844.0
Now it's clear !!!
Waist70
Quote: Lena2015

maybe my scales are buggy
I checked the scales with pennies right in the store ...: nea: the saleswoman asked "Do you buy the scales so that you can weigh money ???"
23anita
tell the silly main difference. French. dietary what's the difference between them?
Vanya28
Quote: 23anita

tell silly difference main. French. dietary what's the difference between them?

These plates from the instructions,
for Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 models,
stupidity and corrected if too lazy to read the last.

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)
To view full size,
additional click in the upper right corner of the table.
Wit
Respected Vanya28, and if I, stupid, asked you: "What is the difference between fried potatoes, boiled and mashed potatoes, what is the difference between them?" Would you, too, poke a table into some thread?
23anita clearly not interested technology cooking basic, French and dietary, and what are they differ basically. So I, stupid, noticed the difference between basic and French only in the composition of the dough, crust and baking time. I did not notice the difference in taste - both delicious breads. True, the crust of the French crunch is crunchier and dimmer. I don't know anything about the dietary one. Hope for help from sazalexter, giraffes, Rina... Thank you all in advance
sazalexter
Wit Diet in Panasonic is called bread with whole grain flour, a very long mode of kneading and proving, I have this the most demanded mode Yes, by the way, French is also done for a very long time in it, because there is no sugar
Wit
Quote: sazalexter

Wit Diet in Panasonic is called bread with whole grain flour, a very long mode of kneading and proving, this is the most demanded mode for me
Got it, thanks! And we have such flour where-the thread often happens? Or only in special stores like "Bread at home" like. But the prices there are outrageous.
sazalexter
Wit There is such flour "Kudesnitsa" Petersburg Mill Combine sell it in Orange on the Black River and in the Ten
Wit
Quote: sazalexter

Wit There is such flour "Kudesnitsa" Petersburg Mill Combine sell it in Orange on the Black River and in the Ten
I saw this recently! I will remember where. But somewhere close to home, it seems in "Lime". Thank you!
sazalexter
Quote: Wit

I saw this recently! I will remember where. But somewhere close to home, it seems in "Lime". Thank you!
Packing by 1 kg, the price is ~ 60 rubles, when I bought flour for chapatis in Indian spices, which is not far from the Moscow railway station ~ 45 rubles / kg, but then switched to Belorusskaya 2nd grade, and Altai Health
Vanya28
Quote: Wit

Respected Vanya28, and if I, stupid, asked you: "What is the difference between fried potatoes, boiled and mashed potatoes, what is the difference between them?" Would you, too, poke a table into some thread?
23anita clearly not interested technology cooking basic, French and dietary, and what are they differ basically. Here I am, stupid, noticed the difference between basic and French only as part of the test, crust and baking time. I did not notice the difference in taste - both delicious breads. True, the crust of the French crunch is crunchier and dimmer. I don't know anything about the dietary one. Hope for help from sazalexter, giraffes, Rina... Thank you all in advance

They dug the answer on their own and dug into the instructions, in this case, after reading the attached recipes, comparing and avoiding sniffing, according to your words.
What's wrong with understanding?
The instruction is wrong?
Don't feel like reading?

To the document there was a message
read.

Wit
Vanya28 ! Thanks to sazalexter with understanding, everything settled down. And you have an understanding of the question asked 23anita - it seems not. I dare not bother you anymore.
sazalexter
Quote: 23anita

tell the main difference. French. dietary what's the difference between them?
Basic - simple bread, white or gray without any special frills
French - fluffy bread without sugar, with a thin crispy crust, after a long proofing.
Diet - gray or dark bread, with a high content of whole grain flour, and (or) bran, heavy flour (flaxseed, buckwheat, corn), bread that requires long kneading and proofing
Giraffe
Quote: Wit

True, the crust of French is crunchier and dimmer. I don't know anything about the dietary one. Hope for help from sazalexter, giraffes, Rina... Thank you all in advance

I agree about French, but I didn't bake a dietary one. By the way, I don't put sugar in the main sugar.
Waist70
Quote: sazalexter

Wit Diet in Panasonic is called bread with whole grain flour, a very long mode of kneading and proving, I have this the most demanded mode Yes, by the way, French is also done for a very long time in it, because there is no sugar
I always put French on: lazy2: night for a timer so that by morning it would be ready: victory: And in the afternoon: swoon: you will be stunned while it is ready: hleb: My family is already crazy when I say I have to wait until it cools down
Wit
Of course, the timer is more convenient at night. But now I'm used to following the kolobok during mixing ...
rinishek
Wow - I put the bread today, I also wanted to try the dietary one - and what is it?
but I was in a hurry, and since I put it on sourdough, I decided to track the bun and there was no time to wait for the batch on the dietary one.
I'll try on the trail. week.

I will never get used to panasik (before that there was a mulinesha). Comrades, tell me the batch on the main one - one or two? I don’t understand something. A couple of times it was like one batch in 15-20 minutes, a couple of times - like the second batch was, though only three minutes. It is kneading, not kneading after proofing

Right there you will not always hear the batch - the Panasik works quietly in comparison with the mules that rumbled throughout the apartment. There khosh is not khosh - and you won't miss the batch - it hurts so much that you can't hear yourself
Sometimes I put bread in my mule after work and the time of kneading coincides with dinner - so the whole family after the end of the batch - "FFFFuuh, how good - how quietly"

I always put on the timer like this https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=19835.0
sazalexter
Quote: Wit

But now I'm used to following the kolobok during mixing ...
That's how much I bake, you won't believe I never do it for the night I bubbled up and order
Wit
Quote: rinishek

I always put on the timer like this https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=19835.0
So it is so ... But we must bear in mind that "more energetically" kneads, it means the panasik is straining. But do I need? I’d better wait, but I won’t muzzle Panasik. Only for dumplings I will turn on such a sadistic regime.
Waist70
Quote: Wit

Of course, the timer is more convenient at night. But now I'm used to following the kolobok during mixing ...
I follow only black: csip: rye bread is often unmixed flour ... but white never: beach: it always turns out beautiful and tasty
Wit
Quote: sazalexter

That's how much I bake, you won't believe I never do it for the night I bubbled up and order
Yes, I, too, sort of have seen enough. Moreover, I have never made adjustments to the batch. I'll bubble up at night too
rinishek
so kneading can be done on pizza, not necessarily dumplings. The principle itself is kneading without yeast, yeast separately - and on a timer.
Well, or how Rina does (I have not tried that yet - with half the norm, but I will definitely try)
Wit
Quote: rinishek

so kneading can be done on pizza, not necessarily dumplings. The principle itself is kneading without yeast, yeast separately - and on a timer.
Well, so you gave the link, where Uncle Sam just mocks Panasik
rinishek
oh, that's okay! downright and scoffs, because the dumplings mode is not self-made, since it was programmed in HP, so it means Panas may well cope with the batch - I'm not crushing crushed stone
Wit
Quote: rinishek

oh, that's okay! downright and scoffs, because the dumplings mode is not self-made, since it was programmed in HP, so it means Panas may well cope with the batch - I'm not crushing crushed stone
And I do not argue that Panas can do everything! But you don't turn on the mixer to stir the sugar in the cup of tea.
Waist70
Quote: rinishek

oh, that's okay! downright and mocks, because the dumplings mode is not self-made, since it was programmed in HP, so it means Panas may well cope with the batch - I'm not crushing crushed stone
Without any preliminary kneading for the night, I get excellent French ... I fell asleep according to the recipe and went to bed: lazy2: That's why he became my favorite !!!
Wit
Quote: Waist70

Without any preliminary kneading for the night, I get excellent French ... I fell asleep according to the recipe and went to bed: lazy2: That's why he became my favorite !!!
And mine!
Waist70
Quote: Wit

And mine!
I forgot to add: girl_manikur: SMELL IN THE MORNING ... it is for me honestly like an aromatic alarm clock
Wit
Quote: Waist70

I forgot to add: girl_manikur: SMELL IN THE MORNING ... it is for me honestly like an aromatic alarm clock
For me, and for many - too!
rinishek
Vit and Thalia - what can you say - well done! if you manage without any tricks
I’m not teaching you, I just thought it necessary to indicate my experience in terms of
Quote: Wit

Of course, the timer is more convenient at night. But now I'm used to following the kolobok during mixing ...

maybe I didn’t understand the essence of doubts, of course, but you’ll forgive me - as it is written, so it is written. It is possible to trace the kolobok on the timer only in the way I indicated. If you don't want to - don't, I didn't even think to doubt your ability to bake beautiful and tasty bread
Giraffe
Vitaly, maybe my method will suit you. I often knead the dough on dumplings, but I put a third less yeast (I bake it raw). I knead the dough as it should in consistency, and then you can put on the timer. There were no punctures, always good bread and at the same time with initially less yeast. I don’t put sugar, as I wrote above, and vegetable oil is rare, but I am happy to add whey, buttermilk, a spoonful of sour cream, in short, everything that is at the moment at home
Wit
Quote: rinishek

so kneading can be done on pizza, not necessarily dumplings. The principle itself is kneading without yeast, yeast separately - and on a timer.
Well, or how Rina does (I have not tried that yet - with half the norm, but I will definitely try)
Class! rinishek, Thanks for the advice! True! I am so young a baker that I didn’t even know that kneading without yeast can be done I will definitely try. Thank you!
rinishek
Wit
here people in HP even stew meat, so kneading without yeast is so, light pranks
Wit
Quote: giraffe

Vitaly, maybe my method will suit you. I often knead the dough on dumplings, but I put a third less yeast (I bake it raw). I knead the dough as it should in consistency, and then you can put on the timer. There were no punctures, always good bread and at the same time with initially less yeast. I don’t put sugar, as I wrote above, and vegetable oil is rare, but I am happy to add whey, buttermilk, a spoonful of sour cream, in short, everything that is at the moment at home
Oh, Tanya! Even raw yeast, I'm not very good. I'm afraid of them! Hope this is temporary
Wit
Quote: rinishek

Wit
here people in HP even stew meat, so kneading without yeast is so, light pranks
I've already read it, rinishek! I want to make a kebab
23anita
Quote: Vanya28

These plates from the instructions,
for Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 models,
stupidity and corrected if too lazy to read the last.

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (2)
To view full size,
additional click in the upper right corner of the table.
This I know I meant by taste, let's say ordinary bread. or will there be a difference in flour?
23anita
Quote: Wit

Respected Vanya28, and if I, stupid, asked you: "What is the difference between fried potatoes, boiled and mashed potatoes, what is the difference between them?" Would you, too, poke a table into some thread?
23anita clearly not interested technology cooking basic, French and dietary, and what are they differ basically. So I, stupid, noticed the difference between basic and French only in the composition of the dough, crust and baking time. I did not notice the difference in taste - both delicious breads. True, the crust of French is crunchier and dimmer. I don't know anything about the dietary one. Hope for help from sazalexter, giraffes, Rina... Thank you all in advance
Thank you, yes, this is approximately interesting to me.
23anita
Quote: sazalexter

Wit Diet in Panasonic is called bread with whole grain flour, a very long mode of kneading and proving, I have this the most demanded mode. By the way, French is also done for a very long time in it, because there is no sugar, why is it the most demanded? and I baked the usual in French, delicious with sugar
23anita
Quote: sazalexter

Basic - simple bread, white or gray without any special frills
French - fluffy bread without sugar, with a thin crispy crust, after a long proofing.
Diet - gray or dark bread, with a high content of whole grain flour, and (or) bran, heavy flour (flaxseed, buckwheat, corn), bread that requires long kneading and proofing
thank you very much! Now everything is clear
23anita
Quote: Wit

Of course, the timer is more convenient at night. But now I'm used to following the kolobok during mixing ...
I also got used to it, but the scales are a thing, I just bought there are no problems with the kolobok

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