Catwoman
Quote: MariV

Thank you, manna!
It seems like I found here, not far from my house, on Obruchev with self-pickup - I will look at everything properly.

I, too, if in doubt, I arrange self-delivery, felt it with my pens and decided for sure, only this rarely happens, I usually grab it right away.
Manna
Quote: MariV

Thank you, manna!
It seems like I found here, not far from my house, on Obruchev with self-pickup - I will look at everything properly.
On Obruchev? This is probably Mall Street? I also found him I already made an order And also with self-pick-up They said that on Tuesday it will be possible to pick up
MariV
Yes, there, Mall Street.
Then I will not rush - I will wait until Tuesday-Wednesday.
If it's not difficult, manna, unsubscribe - interesting!
Manna
Quote: MariV

Yes, there, Mall Street.
Then I will not rush - I will wait until Tuesday-Wednesday.
If it's not difficult, manna, unsubscribe - interesting!
Yes, I will definitely tell you everything on Tuesday-Wednesday. What exactly is interesting? What should I pay special attention to?
By the way, you can talk to me if it's convenient
Catwoman
Quote: MariV


Lena, what program did you do your handsome man?

Ol, on the program "dough" kneaded, then turned off and for proofing, as the dough came up, "browning" - pastries and chose a dark crust. I think for bread without sugar, the crust color is not even bad.
Manna
And here, by the way, about turning off programs and turning on again ... Rollsen immediately turns on, he does not "hang", like Panasonic for half an hour?
Catwoman
Quote: manna

And here, by the way, about turning off programs and turning on again ... Rollsen immediately turns on, he does not "hang", like Panasonic for half an hour?

Mannochka, turns on immediately and interferes very intensely, gives a signal to add raisins, etc. during the second batch. After baking, you need to let the oven cool down to 45 grams, since it does not turn on again immediately, the fuse is triggered. After you take out the pastries, the bread maker must be unplugged, since it goes on heating for 1 hour (so that it does not work empty).
MariV
Quote: manna

Yes, I will definitely tell you everything on Tuesday-Wednesday. What exactly is interesting? What should I pay special attention to?
By the way, you can talk to me if it's convenient
Everything is interesting! As a service in this store, is there a choice - or will they bring one and take what is. How is it assembled - how does the cover adhere to the body, even or not, are there any gaps (slots) between the cover and the body.
No misters"? Good .
Manna
Quote: Catwoman

Mannochka, turns on immediately and interferes very intensely
No, you didn't understand a little ... I meant that when Panasik accidentally chose the wrong program and clicked on "Start", then after "Cancel" you have to wait to start the now necessary program again. Doesn't Rolsen have that?

Quote: Catwoman
After you take out the baked goods, the bread maker must be unplugged, since it switches to heating for 1 hour (so that it does not work when it is empty).
Oh, and there is no cancellation of "Heating"? Well ... I mean ... you can't turn off the heating by clicking on "Cancel"?
Catwoman
Quote: manna

No, you didn't understand a little ... I meant that when Panasik accidentally chose the wrong program and clicked on "Start", then after "Cancel" you have to wait to start the now necessary program again. Doesn't Rolsen have that?
Oh, and there is no cancellation of "Heating"? Well ... I mean ... you can't turn off the heating by clicking on "Cancel"?

Sorry, I didn't understand. I'll check it tomorrow, otherwise my husband is already grumbling at me. You can turn off the heating, maybe it seemed to me that it cools faster when the outlet is pulled out?
MariV
Quote: manna

No, you didn't understand a little ...I meant that when I accidentally chose the wrong program from Panasik and clicked on "Start", then after "Cancel" I have to wait to run the now needed program again.

About Panasonic - I used it in the village for two days in a row - I did not notice such a thing that I accidentally chose the wrong program, canceled it, and I have to wait a while to start another program. There is no such a jamb in Panasonic.
After the end of the main program with baking, you cannot, for example, immediately put it on baking again - you have to wait for the time for the oven to cool slightly.
Manna
Quote: MariV

There is no such a jamb in Panasonic.
Maybe it was fixed in new ones? But at 256 exactly as I described It is not only for me ... Here, eg
MariV
manna, I have an SD 255, I have been using it since 2007, maybe other models have this.
Catwoman
Quote: manna

No, you didn't understand a little ... I meant that when Panasik accidentally chose the wrong program and clicked on "Start", then after "Cancel" you have to wait to start the now necessary program again. Doesn't Rolsen have that?

Mannochka checked it, started the program, twisted it a bit, turned it off and started it again on another program, did not wait for anything, it does not immediately turn on only if it has already completed the entire cycle until it cools down, but I already wrote about this.

About Panasonic: if I chose the wrong program and immediately canceled, then I can immediately turn on another, that is, until the main program starts after heating, if further, then I have to wait 15 minutes.
Manna
Quote: MariV

manna, I have SD 255, I have been using it since 2007, maybe other models have this.
Quote: Catwoman

About Panasonic: if I chose the wrong program and immediately canceled, then I can immediately turn on another, that is, until the main program starts after heating, if further, then I have to wait 15 minutes.
Girls, you have doubted me. I went to check. I chose the program, turned it on, and canceled it a minute later. The new program is no longer selected - only "Main". And now you need to remove the plug from the socket and wait 20 minutes, then everything will be selected. I remember that someone else described a similar thing - I can not select the desired program and pitch on the main one.
lega
Quote: manna

Girls, you have doubted me. I went to check. I chose the program, turned it on, and canceled it a minute later. The new program is no longer selected - only "Main". And now you need to remove the plug from the socket and wait 20 minutes, then everything will be selected. I remember that someone else described a similar thing - I can not select the desired program and pitch on the main one.

manna, I also became interested, repeated your experience ... EVERYTHING is chosen normally. I decided to complicate the task - first I put a container with ice so that the heating element would turn on immediately, after two minutes I dropped the program ... Anyway, on 255 Panas EVERYTHING is selected.
Manna
Quote: lga

manna, I also became interested, repeated your experience ... EVERYTHING is chosen normally. I decided to complicate the task - first I put a container with ice so that the heating element would turn on immediately, after two minutes I dropped the program ... Anyway, on 255 Panas EVERYTHING is selected.
Lga, are we again "on you"?

Girls, I confess. Everything is chosen
Yesterday I pressed the "Start / Cancel" button twice, so nothing was selected
It's just that once I had such a failure, and then I read about something like this from someone else, and decided that all Panasiks had such a glitch. Well, it somehow settled in my memory. And to check it again ... somehow it's useless And only now it dawned on me: you see, I then pressed "Start / Cancel" twice, like yesterday, because the programs did not get out And from others, apparently, the same was - accidentally pressed "Start / Cancel" twice
Oh, and I also threw such a commotion Here I am a fool
Catwoman

My assistants:

Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

Mannochka, well, what did you buy?
Manna
Quote: Catwoman

My assistants:
what a slender line

Quote: Catwoman
Mannochka, well, what did you buy?
I bought it. Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

And this is the build quality (quite acceptable for the price)
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530 Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

And this is the answer to questions about the slots (we can say that there are no slots; what will happen when heated - we will check tomorrow)
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530 Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

Now the stove is being ventilated - there is a smell of new technology.
I haven't tried it yet. I think tomorrow I'll bake something
Catwoman
Quote: manna

what a slender line

Now the stove is being ventilated - there is a smell of new technology.
I haven't tried it yet. I think tomorrow I'll bake something

Yeah, lined up according to the height of the fools.

And I didn't smell at all, I immediately noticed it.
Catwoman
Quote: MariV

They are so clean, not like my dirty little ones ... I have a panasonic inside, well, it's just already black, and the bucket ...
I'm a slob ...
Ol, I also had a little bitch inside, I cleaned it with Shumanit, now like new. You just need to wear gloves so that the skin does not corrode, and Rollsen bakes very well. The sister is also pleased.
14anna08
Len, and where did you get this Shumanit?
MariV
That summer I decided to clean mine with Shumanite, after a copious rinsing, my display stopped responding to everything. Now I am once again afraid to touch ...
Catwoman
Quote: 14anna08

Len, and where did you get this Shumanit?
Anyut, in the store, where powders, shampoos, etc. Again as good as new.
Catwoman
Quote: MariV

That summer I decided to clean mine with Shumanite, after a copious rinsing, my display stopped responding to everything. Now I am once again afraid to touch ...

And everything is fine with me
Manna
I wanted to try this stove today. I open the cupboard where the flour is stored, and there ... only rye. I think okay, let it be 100% rye bread. Moreover, for a very long time this has not baked.

I looked in the instructions for the "Basic" mode. Not perfect, I guess, but it should still fit.
Kneading, proofing, kneading again, leveled the bun (after all, only rye flour - the oven could not knead an ideal bun), proofing, and after 40 minutes I hear kneading again (yes tree sticks, it's rye bread). Well, in general ... you can not say that the bread did not work out - too dense and crooked. She did not take pictures.
And I, fool, did not understand what it meant in the instructions - two proofings in a row. And this turned out to be a two-three turnover.
Here is from the instructions for program settings
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

Second try. Kneading, proofing for 30 minutes on the "Main" ... turned off the stove and let it stand like that, and then "Browning" for 50 minutes. This bread, though plump, is smooth and porous. From one hst flour
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

I noticed that at the bottom inside the bucket there are rivets for fastening the mechanism. I wonder how they will behave after a while
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

There is also a strange gap in the design of the stove, in a short one, if flour or something else gets in, then clean only with a vacuum cleaner and / or a steam cleaner
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

And here is what the display shows during the execution of the "Main" program
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

I also noticed that the thin metal plate that fastened the heating element after the first bake darkened. I wonder how long she'll last
The stove kneads well, she even managed to knead the rye dough. Of course, the bun did not come out from her, but still it was 100% rye dough. It is better to test this on wheat flour. The noise during mixing is insignificant, although louder than Panasonic's.
Baked both times on a medium crust. Well baked. No sunburn and / or pale bald spots.
There was a new smell during the first baking, but I didn't feel it during the second one.
Gypsy
In my old stove there are also rivets at the bottom .. nothing has become of them for many years. Only where the turntable was spinning began to leak a little ... but this kind of thing is not uncommon in Panasonic
Catwoman
manna, did you like it or not? Only I didn't understand about the gap
MariV
For rye - very much even nothing.
About rivets at the bottom of the bucket - there are also such rivets in the Brand's bucket. Panasonic - yes, no.
And the general impression - how?
Manna
About the gap ... apparently designed (why is it there - I don't know) The gap is about a couple of millimeters deep and wide. On one side there is a side, and on the other - the back wall of the panel So this gap is a collection of dirt in this stove, since it is very problematic to remove the debris that has got into it. I don't know if I could explain

Overall impression? I don't even know what to say. I need to get used to her - she is very small. And according to her work ... I already wrote, a decent batch, baking too.The only thing I didn’t like was a brief warm-up in almost all programs in the middle of the proofing

Quote: MariV

For rye - very much even nothing.
Thank you Well, yes, for rye ... quite a decent one came out.But in this oven, in order to avoid unnecessary fiddling with rye (wheat-rye), you will need to graze it
Catwoman
I told you that she is tiny compared to the others and the bucket too.
Manna
Quote: Catwoman

I was also funny when I took it out of the box, a toy.
Yeah, I somehow didn't expect her to be so tiny ... especially the bucket. The stove itself does not seem to be a toy, but the bucket

I was even embarrassed at first ... I didn't know how much flour to use, that's why the bread turned out to be so tiny
dopleta
I also have rivets in all other stoves, I did not even suspect that there might be some kind of catch in this. Does the wrinkle interfere? You can remove the spatula. In my Binaton-multi-cooker, too, completely different modes of proofing and kneading, at first I was surprised, but I was convinced that this did not affect the quality of baking, and I calmed down. I am not familiar with all Panasonic models, but the model that my sister has (I can clarify, but I suspect that one of the first) is much noisier than all my stoves, and Rolsen is much quieter than them.
MariV
Tomorrow I'll stop by the Metro on Kievsky - if I see it, then ........ oh - and suddenly I'll buy it if I like it.
Manna
Quote: dopleta

I also have rivets in all other stoves, I did not even suspect that there might be some kind of catch in this.
I don’t know, maybe there’s no catch, if the rivets are of high quality, and if not, the bucket may leak. Pah-pah-pah. Hopefully I can do without it.

Quote: dopleta
Does the wrinkle interfere? You can remove the spatula.
You can do that

Quote: dopleta

I am not familiar with all Panasonic models, but the model that my sister has (I can clarify, but I suspect that one of the first) is much noisier than all my stoves, and Rolsen is much quieter than them.
I decided to check - I turned on the batch at Panasonic and Rolsen in turn. I would say that the difference is not significant, but Rolsen is definitely not much quieter.
Catwoman
And I like girls, this baby is more and more like it. By the way, my sister, who had never baked bread, turned out right away, she was also happy. Crumples don't bother me, rivets too, the main thing is bread, and even ruddy can be changed on baked goods.

Larissa, thanks for buying Tsyganka her, otherwise I would have looked at her a lot

Manna
Quote: Catwoman

And I like girls, this baby is more and more like it. By the way, my sister, who had never baked bread, turned out right away, she was also happy. Crumples don't bother me, rivets too, the main thing is bread, and even ruddy can be changed on baked goods.
Hi, I'm not picking on the stove, I just wanted to show everything that I noticed in it ... from all sides, so to speak. Rivets do not interfere with me either, and I also like the adjustable rosiness.And kneading ... with wheat flour will definitely not interfere with me

Quote: Catwoman
Larissa, thanks for buying Tsyganka her, otherwise I would have looked at her a lot
Yes, yes, I also join, and I would also take a long time to decide if it were not for the reviews of Dopleta
Manna
Quote: MariV

You genuinely shared your opinion without embellishing anything
YOU (!) Sincerely shared ... Aha?

Quote: MariV

I also need a mask-stove (?) ... or ... yes, rather, I need it.
It's good for small breads, for small muffins, etc. Do you need it? After all, you need it, right?
MariV
For rye in this one - you can put it on a batch in "Pasta" or "Dough", then pull out the spatula - and on "Basic" or "French".
If it kneads well, then probably 15 minutes on "Paste" may be enough.
Manna
I tried kneading with wheat flour. The gingerbread man is formed perfectly. All flour is kneaded. There is no need to help.

By the way, about the "Dough" mode. Kneading for 10 minutes, proofing for 10 minutes, kneading for 10 minutes, then for 25 minutes every minute, knead for 2-3 turns, and then proof for 45 minutes.

Oh, yes ... I also forgot to tell. The stove has kneaded about 600g. test. During the proofing, the dough came out of the bucket, but did not reach the lid.
Catwoman
On the program, I also kneaded the dough for rye-wheat bread, about 600-650 grams, kneaded very well, despite the fact that the dough is heavy.
Manna
Quote: Catwoman

On the program, I also kneaded the dough for rye-wheat bread, about 600-650 grams, kneaded very well, despite the fact that the dough is heavy.
Didn't you get out of the bucket when lifting? Or did you not distribute in the oven?
Catwoman
Quote: manna

Didn't you get out of the bucket when lifting? Or did you try it not in the oven?

It didn’t come out, it rose well, now I am only playing with this stove and baking white and black in it.

Something Olga-Mariv got lost somewhere, changed her mind to buy?
dopleta
Quote: manna

Didn't you get out of the bucket when lifting?

Even on a smaller amount of dough, the very first bread came out, but, as I wrote, I have very strong yeast.
Catwoman
Quote: dopleta

Even on a smaller amount of dough, the very first bread came out, but, as I wrote, I have very strong yeast.

Larissa, and I bake without yeast at all, as soon as I rose above the bucket, I turned it on for baking.
Manna
Quote: Catwoman

and I bake without yeast at all
I've been dreaming about sourdough for almost a year now ... but I still dream ... we travel often, it won't survive. And so hochetstsa
Catwoman, and how long can you leave the leaven for the longest?
Catwoman
Quote: manna

I've been dreaming about sourdough for almost a year now ... but I still dream ... we travel often, it won't survive. And so hochetstsa
Catwoman, and how long can you leave the leaven for the longest?

manna, so you have a rye starter for yourself, it can be stored in the refrigerator. 2 weeks of storage will survive it for sure, and when you need it, you take it out in advance, feed it, as it went up to bread, and 50 grams again into the refrigerator. The Frenchwoman, of course, will not survive such an attitude. If you need a sourdough not rye, but wheat, then for 3-4 feeding it can be transferred to wheat, then instead of rye flour, you feed the sourdough with wheat flour. Explained clearly?
MariV
Quote: Catwoman

It didn’t come out, it rose well, now I am only playing with this stove and baking white and black in it.

Something Olga-Mariv got lost somewhere, changed her mind to buy?
I'm not lost, I'm in the village, and I haven't changed my mind - I think ....... - I have two HPs, yes, the Panasonic is an old woman, but so far it works. If I had one Panasonic, I would have taken this one without much hesitation; but why do I need three bread makers?
Manna
Gypsy, congratulations on your arrival stoves... Doplets... Doplets and stoves

Here, I baked wheat bread first in French, and then in Basic. In both modes, the crust is "Medium". She did not interfere with the process.
There was too much dough on "French" (for 1 st milk). The bread touched the lid while baking. The result is a "fungus". And, as it seemed to me, the crust is a little thick.
On the "Main" proportions decreased (by 3/4 st of water). It turned out just right - it rose to the top of the bucket, but did not run away.

"Fungus" in "French"
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530 Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530 Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

On the "Main"
Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530 Bread maker Rolsen RBM-530

In general, I am gradually adjusting to the size of the stove. I'm happy with the results (apart from my mistakes)
Gypsy
I also urgently need an IRR here, I need heads with holes
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