Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

nothing can be more useful than your vegetables and fruits, culinary traditions

Likewise. Local culinary traditions correspond to the local climate, the energy of the people living in this territory, they are harmonious to the body. What may be healing for the "wise people", for the Slavs or Africans, or Hindus, or ... it may not be at all, but even on the contrary

this year I prepared 12 liters of crap - my husband is horrified

How many years is this?

How many years is this?

So you too))) Just for a year, just get through this winter without flu, without snot from my daughter, she's graduation, you can't get sick, so I tried my best))) You will laugh, but there is no more than a liter and a half, - my husband took to work, my daughter makes butters every day after school. Surprisingly, they accepted with enthusiasm, although I was afraid that they would not understand)))

So you too))) Just for a year, just get through this winter without flu, without snot from my daughter, she's graduation, you can't get sick, so I tried my best))) You will laugh, but there is no more than a liter and a half, - my husband took to work, my daughter makes butters every day after school. Surprisingly, they accepted with enthusiasm, although I was afraid that they would not understand)))

Well, this is also bad for the stomach - to consume so much rubbish every day Rub the rubbish on the sandwiches!
Moreover, a girl, her age, a schoolgirl. And then he will complain of gastritis, inflammation of the stomach and other byaki in the stomach. Such food should be a rare exception on the table, as a LITTLE addition for the taste of meat and other things.
You need to be fortified with vegetables, fruits, berries, extracts of herbs, rose hips, berries (cranberries, lingonberries) and so on - they will not spoil the stomach

Well, this is also bad for the stomach - to consume so much rubbish every day Rub the rubbish on the sandwiches!
Moreover, a girl, her age, a schoolgirl. And then he will complain of gastritis, inflammation of the stomach and other byaki in the stomach. Such food should be a rare exception on the table, as a LITTLE addition for the taste of meat and other things.
You need to fortify yourself with vegetables, fruits, berries, infusions of herbs, rose hips, berries (cranberries, lingonberries) and so on - they will not spoil the stomach

Admin, thanks, I didn't look from this point of view. She herself grew up on such simple food and was always very proud of her "iron" stomach, there were no questions about crap, from the fifth grade every day after school, one or two of these crap buffers (large family) must not be sick, I am the eldest. Later at the institute, I alone had a healthy stomach, our entire group - who is gastritis, who is ulcer, I am only a simple girl, without such suffering, what a stomach ache is, I still don’t understand. My husband was spoiled, Mom was cooking in the city, empty soups, chicken without skin, soups on the drained second broth ... In general, when he entered the military academy, he had gastritis! But a year later, as we got married, gastritis was removed at the next medical examination. The doctors were surprised, what did I feed him? Buters with horseradish (relatives brought from the village), thick mushroom soups, cabbage soup, borscht, everything is boiled as much as possible, as in the villages they cook lard with garlic for black bread - whoever would say anything - my boy came to life, gastritis passed! We have been married for 18 years, gastritis and did not get close, - the main diet - cereals, boiled village soups, in general, everything that I learned during the holidays from my grandmothers in the village, simple village food.

[yaKachka]

yaKachka, Thank you.

But, probably, Keith is no longer my choice. I will not get rid of all these negative impressions.
And why should I not be happy about something, and even for my money?

variety, so I did not even consider Redmon.
It's not that others don't use advertising, but few have such enduring disgust for their aggressive methods.

And if on the topic of discussion - then I have tomorrow. and I really don't want to spend money. Pets are already laughing, asking before bedtime, and how many pages have I read today about multicooker
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And off topic (how much did you write). The wisdom of the Chinese people is somewhat romanticized. Especially in the culinary part. They have a different structure, a different perception of food. When I lived there, all the time I heard "the best recipe for losing weight" - eat more spicy, strong spicy.

And although I love Chinese food, I admit that their culinary culture is not for our daily diet.

But all their medical stuff is excellent. I can't imagine my life without Yunnan Baiyao - you can google both in Russian and in Latin letters. Any cut, bruise, bleeding (including internal), burn (not the highest stage) - heals / passes perfectly and incredibly quickly. In our family, it is called "magic powder", because I have been keeping it in the first-aid kit for 12 years already, and I wonder how quickly and efficiently, sometimes instantly.

Especially in the culinary part. They have a different structure, a different perception of food.

Although I love Chinese food, I admit that their culinary culture is not for our daily diet.

Almost all the cuisine of the Indo-Chinese, Malaysian peoples is designed for hot weather, the spread of infection, intestinal diseases and other good.
Therefore, the use of a large amount of spices, pepper, bitterness, natural fermentation, fermentation, etc., is nothing more than the disinfection of food, food when eating. And especially when using raw food, raw meat.
Let us at least recall the conditions in which the Vietnamese live on a river with dirty water, and how food is prepared in these conditions For them it is natural, their stomachs are arranged this way For our stomachs it is death-gastritis-poisoning - we are northern people, with our own principles of nutrition and its range of products, where spices are used more as an addition to food to improve the taste of the dish

Can I speak about Asia (too)? We live in Thailand for several months a year, we have friends and Russians and Thais permanently living there. So, after reading an article on my favorite website about Thai cuisine, I almost choked: you need to eat in local cafes, and the more authentic everything there and the more Thais chew in this cafe, the more boldly you need to go there! It is a pity that it was impossible to leave a comment on this article !!! No Russian stomach can stand the dishes served in these cafes! The raw materials are washed somehow, with unwashed hands, the plates are also of dubious sterility (and the raw materials and them, hearty ones, are washed in the same basin), and it's not worth talking about the spiciness of Thai soups! The jaw will be reduced for a day, it will even hurt to open it! Again, their love is to fry whatever gets deep-fried ... One owner of the cafe was frying a dried Russian fish given to him by tourists. Everything would be fine, but he forgot it ... to clean it! European establishments have the main difference: THERE, EVERYTHING IS WASHED WITH FLOWING WATER! What happens and they indicate in their advertising slogans Sorry for the off top!

Girls, experts, advise which cartoon to choose - Redmond M170, Polaris 0517, 0527, 0531, Steba DD1

I have in use Panasonic 18 and Philips 3036
I want to send these to the dacha and send my mother, myself a new one

Maybe someone in use has a cartoon Bork? what can you say about her
I look at Bork and Kukushka, I cannot understand what is so cool about them, the price is high. Or maybe you need to pick up and take the expensive one?

thank you all in advance

[umnica]

umnica, Redmond M170 functionally very similar to Polaris 0517, but more expensive (in Ukraine it is one and a half times, in ours it is twice). There is also a pleasant difference from 0517 - the electric cord comes with a built-in switch.

0527 differs from brother 0517 by the presence of not just the Multipovar mode, but the Multipovar a plus", which allows you to set different temperatures for several (from 1 to 3) consecutive cooking stages, as well as set the duration of each stage. And in this model, changing the time (in all programs) and temperature (in Frying, Frying in Oil, Multipovar + ) is possible during program execution.

0531 differs from 0527 in the presence of hours and two timers (instead of one), and, most importantly, the temperature range of the multi-cook is wider (30 - 160 degrees versus 35 - 160) and the step is less (2 degrees in the range 90 - 110, versus 5 degrees in the range 35 - 110 at 0527). Well, and a beautiful device, which is important.

Steba DD1 ECO rather a pressure cooker, there are only four multicooker modes (cooking without pressure) (Heating, Steam, Roasting, Slow cooking / Simmering). On the other hand, in the Heating mode, you can set the temperature in 1 degree increments (in the range of 30 - 80 degrees) and in the Slow Cooking / Simmering mode in the same step (in the range of 82 - 88 degrees), which allows you to cook both yoghurts and products using the sous technology -vide.
A reliable and simple machine (I received it for testing), but, in my opinion, it is better to have it as an additional one to a much more functional multicooker.

At the end of the survey run, according to your list, I will add from myself: "Grab a hamman and a big one to the store for a multicooker POLARIS PMC 0515AD" .

It is difficult, if not impossible, to find something similar in terms of price / functionality in Ukraine. She has a 9-step "Multipovar a plus"with a temperature step of 5 degrees (from 40 to 160 degrees). In addition, the Polaris PMC 0515AD has a preliminary heating switch-off, a removable lid plate (for easy cleaning), a separate" Yogurt "program, a non-standard futuristic design and price (das ist fantastisch!) - 720 UAH

... I look at Bork and Kukushka, I cannot understand what is so cool about them, the price is high. Or maybe you need to pick up and take an expensive one?

It's not worth straining and saving, definitely.

These multicooker pressure cookers with induction heating, the bowl is so difficult and can cost like a good cartoon with heating elements - one bowl! The cost of repairs will not please either. Besides, Bork is absolutely shamelessly overpricing. For example, the original South Korean Lihom CUCHEN CJH-PA1000IC (US $ 499.99 - price with delivery) for 13,400 rubles. cheaper than its copy of the Bork U800 (prices from 32,500 rubles, excluding shipping costs).

[zogar]

zogar, and what would you recommend a multicooker in a pair to Shteba? (it is interesting to know your opinion)

[zogar]

zogar, Thank you!

to be honest, POLARIS PMC 0515AD doesn't look like it at all, but for a woman it's important
about Shteba, I also thought so that in addition you can
Remains Polaris 0517, 0527 and 0531.
Can you prepare sous-vide food at 0531? well, outwardly she really likes. only write that it is large in size.

Can you prepare sous-vide food at 0531?

Why not? In any multicooker with the possibility of setting 60-70-80 ° C (depending on the product) with a step of 2-5 ° C, you can cook using this technology, including at 0531

[Irina. A]

Irina. A, not in a pair with Shteba, but on the contrary, Shteba in the company of the main multicooker. Multi is much more functional and more sophisticated than pressure cookers and hybrids (although they support / catch up, they become more and more complex and functional).

I noticed that some members of the forum are laid immediately for 5 - 7 tons. believing that more is always better.
Well, in this budget and premium class, such as Redmont RMC-250 with "Master Chef" you can buy, and the previous top RMC-M90. Among the advanced models of the second generation of Polaris PMC 0523AD / PMC 0531AD / PMC 0527D - they, as luck would have it, are cheaper than 4 tons.
But I wouldn't mind grabbing SUPRA MCS-5201 for myself - this is a cheaper analogue of Redmont RMC-250. Not for cooking, just wanting, for the soul.

In my opinion (not everyone will agree), the first should be inexpensive "educational" cartoon.

For the technically advanced with multi-cook, multi-cook+... Now for the amount of seeds (up to 2.5 thousand rubles), you can purchase a device with the "Multipovar plus" mode (Polaris PMC 0515AD / Polaris PMC 0518AD); up to one and a half thousand rubles with "Multipovar" (Polaris PMC 0507D Kitchen / Polaris PMC 0508D floris). And according to the action, it happens, and a multicooker of an average price category can be grabbed in an area of ​​up to 3 tons.

For ordinary users, a multicooker like Redmont RMC-M10 / Redmont RMC-M4500 with a dozen automatic programs and without (or minimum) manual time settings will be quite good.Either with touchscreen programs, such as the old Thai Panas, or, newer, the Stadler Form Chef One models.

Steba DD2 ECO is already on sale with manual temperature setting in the range from 30 to 150 degrees, a unique step - 1 degree. Here it can be made (by an experienced cook) with the only Shteba. This option seems to me too utilitarian ...

As the main (or the first) I brought the running models and I do not mention the MV of other companies (and expensive ones, with induction heating) - otherwise the story will take up too much space.

[0531]

... POLARIS PMC 0515AD doesn't look like it at all

Wow, and for me too - some kind of sharp, sharp device, not at all good-natured (not cozy).

... in 0531 it is possible to prepare sous-vide food? well, outwardly she really likes ...

In cooking, I am not zero, but a number with a negative value - therefore, it is better to ask a question about cooking in the appropriate section of the forum - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&board=543.0

And here's another link to the article "Sous-vide technology" - 🔗

0531 in appearance a firebird, spilled-raspberry - good for my, not too developed, taste! And all the more contrast seemed to be some, even spiteful, reviews on YAM. And there are almost a third of them. In general, the impression is blurred ...
Increased suggestibility, I guess.

I have a polaris 0517, with a multi-cook, to my shame, I practically don't use this function, as there are enough basic programs, but I also want something else for my soul, not too expensive, but sincere. Now I use the unit for smoking, but the staff works a lot, so I don't know ...

[Manna]

Girls boys! I saw in the store MV REDMOND RMC-M12. I really liked her for my mother (despite my sharply negative view of the marketing policy of this company)! For your liking in particular: a small teflon (!) Saucepan, the necessary set of functions and a lovely appearance (black barrel with metal). Disliked: the lack of a protective cover and the impossibility of turning off the heating (it is often found on modern MB). Also on the forum in search of a topic was not found.Manna., will you point to the link where to read the reviews?zogar, maybe there is something similar with a lid and heating shutdown? Thank you! Your reviews always help me with the definition of shopping-gifts!

Irina. A, on polaris 0517 I actively use a multi-cooker in the preparation of milk cereals, peas and beans. The pre-installed programs work quite aggressively, and on a 90-degree multi-cook, everything is clean and excellent!

[Loya]

Loya, The 12th was not discussed separately, as well as the 11th. Discussed the 10th HERE... Polaris has similar multicooker: polaris floris, 0507, 0509, 0511... True, their lid plate is also non-removable, the heating is not turned off. Redmond still has 4524, 4503, 20, but the plate is also non-removable. All these similar models have similar characteristics. If you need a removable plate, you need to watch multicooker with a different body design.
Loyaand redmond 01/011 I do not like? Small volume, removable plate, switchable heating. True, the bowl is soft and "ceramic". More Brand 701 - a small bowl (you can buy a non-stick one), a removable plate, switchable heating, rich functionality. Still quite a baby at 1.6 liters - redmond 02, but the lid plate is not removable, heating is turned off in a new batch.

[Manna]

Manna, Thank you so much! I know more or less the line of Polaris, but mostly there are 5 liter bowls, but a baby is needed. This is the first priority. Redmond attracted just by its compactness, by pressing buttons (not a sensor) and good programs, including a multi-cook. The rest of the models offered by you will be viewed, thanks. P.S. already thinking about the new year

[Brand 701]

... maybe there is something similar with a lid and heating shutdown?

There are similar ones, but not 100%.

Brand 701: multi-cook a plus, pre-heating shutdown, removable cover, but a pot with a ceramic coating (Teflon lined bowls sold separately).

Zigmund & Shtain MC-D31: multi-cooker, removable lid, teflon-coated saucepan, but there is no heating shutdown... An option is possible: buy a timer-socket for preliminary shutdown of heating.

ENDEVER SkyLine MC-33: multi-cooker, removable lid, teflon-coated saucepan, but there is no heating shutdown... An option is possible: buy a timer-socket for preliminary shutdown of heating.

Polaris PMC 0310AD: multi-cook, pre-heating switch-off, but the lid is not removable and the bowl is ceramic-coated... You can try to find the bowl from other MBs, but nothing with the lid.

Polaris PMC 0308AD: multi-cook, heat pre-cut, teflon-lined saucepan, but the lid is not removable.

It's all multi with a 3 liter bowl.

[Irina. A]

Irina. A, judging by your collection of appliances, the basic needs for kitchen appliances are completely satisfied and you want something new, special, unusual.

For example, the Chinese comrades have such a harvester (see photo)
These are stewing pans. One pan, several pots. Some of them are still able to cook with steam, there is a delayed start function. They are equipped with protection against burning and overheating, maintain the temperature after the end of cooking. In general, they boil, stew, and steam.

Chinese comrades have such a harvester

We have a separate topic for these devices - HERE (she is over a year old)

[ju1ietta]

ju1ietta, the author of the topic "Chinese monsters", on one day (April 11, 2013), she was first noted with the same name on, the time gap was only 6 minutes

Oh, how many wonderful discoveries we have
Prepare the spirit of enlightenment ...

in one day (April 11, 2013), at first it was marked with the same name on, the time gap was only 6 minutes

What are you talking about?

That's it, my throes of choice are over

I ordered Brand 701 + non-stick bowl + spare lid on the manufacturer's website. With a promotional discount for everything came out 3,543 rubles. (the discount itself - 627 rubles came out). And I will find out how much delivery will be when I pick it up. Probably a little less discount

I immediately wanted the second bowl, no matter what cartoon I bought, since we cook a lot and often yogurt and cottage cheese. And I decided to add a lid, since it is not expensive, it will suddenly be necessary, after all, I’m buying for a couple of years, and why drive the second delivery.

While choosing, I read an abyss of pages here and elsewhere, but more here.
We also specially went to the nearest electronics store to see if 5 and 3 liters are very different. Well, we touched all the models that were in the Media Markt. They also confirmed the opinion that we categorically do not want a round barrel.

In some Panasonic (I don't remember the number), I liked the silicone tacks included. Nice to touch and comfortable. The same ones were ordered a couple of weeks ago on ebee for 2 cu That is, with free shipping, since they found here only for 500 rubles. do not order from Moscow time. (By the way, on ebee everyone is given a coupon for $ 5 until the end of September. If suddenly someone loves to buy there - 🔗 )

3 liters - because there are two of us, because the bowl is lower and it seemed that it would be more convenient to fry and use a spatula in it than in a 5 liter one. We also noticed that not all, even 5-liter ones, have a wide bottom. There are generally some kind of bowlers, with a bottom of 8-10 cm. So it is better to look in each model if this aspect is important.

Thanks to everyone who voluntarily and involuntarily helped me to decide!
I will write my impressions later in the relevant topic
PS but tell me, please, since I'm already here, which of the bowls (ceramics and non-stick) should I define in milk, and for what kind of food should I cook?

[Miranda]

Miranda, congratulations on the end of the agony of choosing Milk in "ceramics", the rest in non-stick.

[Manna]

Manna, thank you!

You helped me choose a yogurt maker a couple of years ago, and then your advice was also good on the topic on a steam cleaner. And here (and on the brand's forum) your detailed review from the video also became decisive for me.

On this forum, you are such an angel-counselor for me

[Miranda]

Miranda, thanks for the kind words I'm glad that I could help

[zogar]

zogar, I really want to, but the trouble is that I trust and buy only in our online stores, but I prefer not to deal with foreign sites

[Brand 701]

I sent suggestions to the Brand and SUPRA companies about providing me with multicooker models that were very interesting to me for testing: Brand 701 (3 l.) & SUPRA MCS-5201 (5 l.).
I wonder if they will agree ...

Manna, from experience, are manufacturers and sellers willing to cooperate in this format?

Manna, from experience, are manufacturers and sellers willing to cooperate in this format?

Much depends on the manufacturer, the current situation in the company, the sales activity of a particular model ... well, and the "tester" himself

I sent proposals to companies ... for testing the multicooker models that interested me very much:
I wonder if they will agree ...

This is about the same as me taking up testing grinders, theoretically I know much more about them than some men.

[Steba DD1 ECO]

This is about the same as me taking up testing grinders, theoretically I know much more about them than some men.

If you also have a sufficient command of the pen and your topics on grinders are read by tens (or hundreds) of thousands of forum visitors (your topics on the forums), then why not?

I (earlier) did not ask for it, and the representative of the company Steba CAM offered (and provided) me with the MB Steba DD1 ECO (with extra bowl) ...

Who told you that you own a pen? You throw advertising clichés, stubbornly advertising Redmond. And they read topics because they try to choose, they hope for objective testing of people who understand the subject.

[zogar]

Actually, zogar represents not such a small segment of buyers - men who would like to cook for themselves, but do not know how to do it at all. Here the multicooker is just to help. It is quite possible that such a tester might interest manufacturers. True, this is risky for them - suddenly they do not know how to cook at all and blames the device for this.This is exclusively IMHO

[zogar]

zogar represents not such a small segment of buyers - men who would like to cook for themselves, but do not know how to do it at all. Here the multicooker is just to help.

Very accurately characterized, but there is still a segment indecisive Buyers of both genders who simply need authoritative (sometimes authoritarian) advice may not be able to choose among 858 electric pots themselves.

[zogar]

zogar, became interesting

I might be wrong, but I haven't seen any interesting reviews from you.
I saw the juggling of advertising descriptions and excerpts from instructions (sometimes clever, I admit). I saw skimping with some mysterious numbers of views of some topics. I saw a zealous calculation on which resource where they wrote / read more, moreover, jealousy not only of their own statements, but also of others, as if you had some kind of internal controller, which resource is better.

That is, it is clear that you are interested in the topic of the multicooker, but it is not clear whether you have any. It is also clear that you are interested in calculating Internet activity, just like that or in order to monetize.

And it is not at all clear whether you are engaged, or it is just such a character and manner of Internet communication.

Therefore, I rejected your advice, because trust from your posts and manner of communication did not arise.

But, I really could be wrong. Change my opinion, please, let me read some review from you of the multicooker in action, that is, a review (test) written as a result of personal experience.

I can't find the answer to my question - why are multicooker only available exclusively on the Russian Philips website
and why the latest model of the multicooker 3095 is the same in functions as the 3065, but costs 2! times more expensive. Thank you

[Elenka]

Elenka, exclusively on the Russian site? What other sites do you compare with? With European ones? There is no particular demand for multicooker, except perhaps for the Khlebopechkin girls. With Ukrainian? Now Ukraine is not a very attractive market ...

3095 and 3065 are completely different multicooker devices. First, the difference in price is influenced by the fact that the 3095 is new, and the 3065 has discounts.They have different bowls (3095 with handles, some kind of "ceramics" - I don't know about its properties in practice yet, but Phillips promises to be unique). The 3095 has a removable lid. Yes, it's the lid, not just the inner plate. The 3095 has protection against power failures for up to 2 hours. All together and affects the price. If by mode, then the 3065 does not have the steaming mode that the 3095 has (but this is so ... just as a difference, nothing more).

[Of course, normal people will not trust the Yandex market.]

Their bowls are different (3095 with handles, some kind of "ceramics" - I don't know about its properties in practice yet, but Phillips promises uniqueness) ...

The 3095 does indeed have ceramics. The bowl is unique in that it is thick and heavy. Weight 1400g, thickness 6mm (at the bottom), volume 4l. Designed for use only in this model and there is no replacement for it. Which of course is a big minus.
Will Phillip ceramics turn out to be good and long-lasting and miraculously nothing will stick in it? Or it will turn out like with Stadler ceramics - it will die in a month. Or the bowl turned out to be the usual average, working normally for 3-4 months, such as in Redmond, in any case, it is still unrealistic to buy the 2nd spare bowl at all, and if there is an opportunity, it will definitely not be cheap. Also model 3095 besides the solution with removable cover has a unique heating element, which is made specifically for this bowl. Inside it there is a double coil of the heater(two turns). You cannot warm up such a heavy bowl with one turn (in all other models of multicooker, exactly one turn is soldered). Naturally, these innovations made the price "heavier".
That is, the 3065 looks preferable. Lower price. Bowl available, non-stick coating. "Steam cooking" is replenished with the "manual / your choice" mode. Therefore, not a terrible loss.
The 3065 still has 3D heating - it usually works in the "baking" and "auto-heating" modes. In the 3095, due to the completely removable cover, there is no upper heater, but as the manufacturer claims, with such a thick bowl and a unique heat exchange system, the same effect is created as if you still turn on the upper heater. In this case, it is impossible to confirm or deny whether it is better or worse without 3D heating, baking in 3095 comes out, there are no real users of this model anywhere. No one has yet shown what kind of pastries are obtained in this model with this super bowl. And about the work of other modes is not known. The same "rice" / "pilaf" as usual with jambs or finally without them?
Of course, normal people will not trust the Yandex market.
If you fall for the 95th model and really want to try a new product with a thick bowl and is suitable for the money, then why not buy it. She also has a unique steamer of its kind - a steamer. Like a double function. The bottom can be removed and it will be a stand-stool with legs - a lower steamer. And if the bottom is not unfastened, then there will be an ordinary basket that is hung on the sides - an upper double boiler.
In general, Phillips has lowered prices for its multicooker ("old"), since the summer, they probably realized at last that breaking 7 thousand for a Phillips nameplate would mean losing your sales. 3095 - the decline has not yet touched, because the new model.

p.s. on the phillips website there are reviews about 3065, that there are still jambs with a "temperature selection", and this choice is available in manual mode. it's hard to say if this is actually the case or people have not figured out how to use it. for good, before buying, you can climb through the menu and see if the choice t and the time change are actually available. if suddenly not, then do not buy.

[Manna]

Manna, ne_peku, thanks a lot, well, now it's clearer. I even called with a question to the officer. site, but the consultant himself does not know anything, suggested to study the description in more detail, and there is no description on the site, even the modes are not spelled out

a representative of the Steba CAM company offered (and provided) me with the Steba DD1 ECO MV (with an additional bowl) ...

and where can you see the results of your testing?

[Rick]

... where can you see your test results?

I have already answered a similar question before. Rick.
See page 400 “Reply # 7992 Aug 31. 2014, 10:20 "and" Reply # 7997 Aug 31.2014, 15:55 "- https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...832.0

[zogar]

zogar, for Brand 701 there is also a topic on this forum, there is a topic on the official Brand forum and on other culinary forums, and everywhere testing has already been carried out (namely testing, and not just a description) of this device back in December-January 2013-2014. Or are you planning to give the same answer for 701 as for DD1?

having received the staff, I was going to make an overview and for a start I even took a picture from different angles. And then I discovered that the materials on Steba DD1 ECO tueva hucha!
Including the whole section on the bread maker - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&board=543.0 .

I did not pour from empty to empty, because in the subject "Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD1 ECO" - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=278949.0 - more than seven thousand messages, well, what new could I say there ?!

In short, on our website he limited himself to asking me questions (just not about cooking!) And posted links to THREE review Steba DD1 ECO - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=298953.new#new .

Excuse me, I don't understand you a little Your task is to answer the questions of those interested in Your forum on the models you plan to "test"? Or? This is so strange to me ... the opinion of a person who does not know how to cook about a saucepan I beg your pardon, if my misunderstanding of something has hurt you It's just that ... thinking out loud

All chefs here, pros and semi-pros, and look at testing at the appropriate angle.

Not so for me (I thought I got it - because of the message about a special segment of my audience). The position of an ordinary user of household appliances, by no means a cook!

Included: the cord is short / long - convenient / not convenient; took on a trip: easy to carry, takes up little space / not easy to carry, takes up a lot of space; lacquered surface - fingers remain, matt surface - no traces. Etc.

More or less like this.

And this is all not on purpose, but between times, in the process of personal use of the kitchen appliance for personal needs. The name is loud - testing, but in fact this is the usual behavior of an ordinary consumer.

[zogar]

zogar, the audience segment was clear to me, it was not clear to me what your testing is supposed to be. Now I get the point. thanks for the clarifications

[zogar]

zogar, it’s a pity that you didn’t want to answer me, you have to draw information about your tests from the answers of other people.

After going through the links you suggested on the last page, I seem to understand the reason for your departure from answering a simple but specific question (please provide a link to any resource where there is Your review on the practical application of technology) - you simply do not have reviews-tests. Your task is limited to the selection of links to other people's tests and discussions, and the proposal to ask you questions.

A short or long cord, whether it is convenient to carry, how much space it takes, whether there are fingerprints on the surface ...

I'm sorry, but this is bullshit, not a review. The length of the cord, ease of carrying, and the soiled surface - all this can be checked in the store or simply by reading the instructions and turning on the brain.

Manufacturers, of course, decide for themselves to whom and why they give their product for testing, whether to take it back or leave it in use, write off or give the tested copy at a discount. You may be lucky.

But I will speak for myself. I am not a cook, not a pro, and not even a semi-pro. From kitchen appliances, I only have a broken yogurt maker, as well as the simplest meat grinder, mixer, blender and kettle. In 7-9 days, the first multicooker will be delivered to me. But choosing a kitchen appliance in which I am unlikely to cook complex and / or rare dishes, except perhaps out of curiosity a couple of times (as was the case with the acquisition of a knitting machine), and the usual use case will be the simplest over time, I would skip the review , where they talk only about the length of the cord, the mark of the case, and other things that do not reflect the capabilities of the technology.

Because the law of marketing says that even a consumer with primitive patterns of using a particular technique, thinking about "spending money", focuses not on his usual habits, but on the dream of becoming better and more comfortable. To learn to do something better and faster, in which the acquired technique should help - to change the quality of life. Only then will he spend the money. And he will never give up his 100-300 dollars if he thinks that it will be faster to chop the onion with his hands and cook the porridge on the stove.Such consumers can be attracted only by a low price.

[open the fan of possibilities]

This topic is called "Choosing a multicooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker", but not "zogar as it is".

To a certain extent flattering, of course, that zogar managed to outshine all multicooker in the world, becoming the main topic of discussion on a couple of pages. At the same time, this causes the author sincere and deep bewilderment - the very topic is about the choice of kitchen appliances, and not about the merits / demerits of the authors of the posts.

The author does not argue with anyone and does not categorically claim that his opinion is true.

The author does not aim to like, or inspire confidence in anyone else. By and large, the author answers, as best he can, to the questions of the seekers-choosers and / or lays out his personal thoughts on the topic.

The author invites everyone who is antipathetic to his writings, just skip zogar posts, not read this bullshit - in order to maintain mental health and good mood!
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I suppose the task of all writing in the topic open the fan of possibilities for those who are looking for their kitchen appliance and let them, who are looking for, choose, then make their choice on their own, choose not only with their heart, but also with their mind.

[open the fan of possibilities]

I suppose the task of all writing in the topic open the fan of possibilities for those who are looking for their kitchen appliance

in relation to you - these are empty, but beautiful words.
as possibilities cannot be revealed no practical use-testing.
sorry for the tautalogy!

Girls, you that a man pecked at everything He collects in a heap all the statistics and information from different sites. Someone also needs this information. Who does not prevent real users from confirming the information zogara with their personal observations and conclusions and, if necessary, to correct it. What is the problem? Before its appearance, one Manna here was puffed up for all real users, it didn't hurt that there were many other advisors (I don't count bots from Redmond). Now in their discussions with zogarom truth is born.

good day
Recommend a multicooker for
- cottage cheese
- casseroles
- porridge
- stewing meat
to be reliable and inexpensive.
Thank you