Built-in hobs

[Umka19]

Umka19, Ludmila, but can't it be specks from dried water? That is, just a thin layer of salt? If you try to rub it with vinegar or lemon?

Good day! Girls, I choose a cooking electric, what is more convenient to use, touch controls or mechanics?

[louisa]

louisa, the touchscreen is more convenient, there is also a timer, but the mechanics do not. But then, when you always wash the touch panel beeps, this is not the case with the mechanics.

Added Thursday, 25 Aug 2016 1:57 PM

Umka19, Feri is for dishes, it is better to use means for vitroceramics, they add shine. I wash my Cif induction and everything is clean. Just be sure to wipe dry and wash after every cooking. If there are any stains, especially from dried water, then I apply a thick paste of soda with water, let it stand a little and wash it off with a sponge. The baking soda does not scratch the stove.

But then, when you wash, the touch panel always beeps

there is a lock on my panel, when mine, I always turn it on, nothing beeps (Siemens induction)

louisa, the touch is more convenient, there is also a timer, but the mechanics do not. But then, when you always wash the touch panel beeps, this is not the case with the mechanics.

Well, since the sensor is convenient to use, then I choose the sensor, thanks!

In addition, the touchscreen can be used as a table top - very convenient, nothing interferes. But I also turn off the sound.

I also changed all the same for gas on glass Sigmund Stein. And what bribed me was the fact that you can adjust the minimum flame the way I need.

I changed - I mean, burned out ariston for a new one. I just could not find a new panel instead and lived with one comfort, the second was not working. But the gas grill pan pushed me to buy, I really like the fish baked in it.

The music didn't play for a long time ..... A few days ago I was frying pancakes and during baking I moved away from the stove and heard such a loud bang. Returning to the stove, the panel shattered, the glass exploded. How did these panels get me. I read it on the internet, I was not the only one tumbling in the field. Now I live with two comforts and a designer foil upper. Thinking how to live on.

[Stafa]

Stafa, I sympathize.((
I dissuade all those who ask from gas on glass, at least in favor of glass ceramics. But this is much more expensive, not everyone likes it and they prefer to take risks.

I don’t want to switch to gas and electricity. I have never lived with him and it’s probably too late to get used to it.

[Stafa]

Stafa, well, don't go. Of course, good induction will be more comfortable than gas, but if you don't want to, then why not just choose a stronger panel? Well, yes, more expensive, but if you really want to?

good induction is more comfortable than gas

Factor of!

And I don't want to at all. But only now my husband agreed to a portable panel, which is a desktop one. But the tabletop will have to be changed.
Or rather, I had stainless steel up to the glass. What is stronger. But it burned down with a bright flame. That insides were on snot, like ariston. This glass exploded, but inside there is flint. Something like that. The husband laughs, says let's order a mirror instead of glass. Until .
As I use the stove, they were supposed to live forever. Boil the kettle a couple of times a day, occasionally scrambled eggs and pancakes a couple of times a year. That's all its use. And in this case, convenience in comparison with induction will not be perceptible, or rather it will not be at all.

The husband laughs, says let's order a mirror instead of glass.

Cheerful husband. To offer such a thing of increased trauma to a spouse. This tempered glass crumbles into crystalline lenses, while ordinary glass crumbles into fragments.

Or rather, I had stainless steel up to the glass.

So why is glass ceramic not suitable? Or does Ariston not have it? Ariston is, in principle, a modest firm, her products are often "budgetary", and the glass-ceramic base does not belong to the budget category, of course. But you can look for something. Although it's a shame to pay twice for almost the same thing, I agree here. ((

I looked at the first model I saw - yeah, the most common brewing even without a triple crown costs as much as 35 thousand. ((
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As I use the stove, they were supposed to live forever. Boil the kettle a couple of times a day, occasionally scrambled eggs and pancakes a couple of times a year. That's all its use. And in this case, convenience in comparison with induction will not be perceptible, or rather it will not be at all.

I am afraid that this misconception lives on precisely because there is only gas in the house.
Dopplet will not agree in vain.

I recently started wheat porridge for a side dish and was even too lazy to turn on one of the multicooker - I drove the portion onto a multi-cup in a small ladle on a timer and under a towel. I was even surprised at the much more delicious porridge than usual from cartoons.

drove the portion onto a multi-cup in a tidy ladle

I make porridge in half a multi-glass in a small Philips and eat it for three days. I have all small-scoped multi and a pressure cooker, and a two-burner panel. Where am I for you with a dopplet with four-burner panels. But I will not buy the third panel for sure.

[Stafa]

Stafa, well, then all the more there is no need for gas, you can buy induction.
Just kidding. Tabletop induction hobs are completely useless. (

While I'm thinking, I think what to do with this one. Since this is not the most necessary thing in the household. There is an option to close it with polished stainless steel. Until I thought about it, I don't even want to bother my head with this. And since finance is singing romances right now, so far let it be as it is.

[dopleta]

dopleta, Bijou, thank you very much for your advice and detailed advice! In the future, I am relocating and I am looking at the equipment in advance. After this topic, I tend to induction, but before that I was definitely against it! I outlined a lot, I will reread when the time of purchase comes. I only need 2 burners, even there are many of them, I thought about a desktop induction cooker in general, now I almost changed my mind. I am assembling a virtual set of kitchen gadgets, now I have almost decided on the stove.

then, all the more, there is no need for gas, you can buy induction.

If only a desktop one, because an induction electric stove requires a different power of electricity, and in houses with gas, such outlets are not provided.

I only need 2 burners, even there are many of them, I thought about a desktop induction cooker in general, now I almost changed my mind. I am assembling a virtual set of kitchen gadgets, now I have almost decided on the stove.

I see.) When you decide on specific models, write. Honestly, I don’t remember what I wrote here, but the model lines are changing, the plates too, and some of the anchor points for which you need to make a choice still remain the same. So let's re-calculate.

If only a tabletop, because the induction electric cooker requires a different power of electricity

Uh ... Why?

[Bijou]

Bijou, because an induction cooker requires a voltage of 380 V and a special output of wires only to this outlet from the shield in the corridor (or in the apartment), depending on what years the house was built. In houses equipped with gas stoves, this is not provided. The voltage is everywhere 220 V. And the power of almost all induction systems is 7 kW, a regular network simply cannot stand it.

[Ksarochka]

Biju, because an induction cooker requires a voltage of 380 V and a special output of wires only to this outlet from the shield in the corridor (or in the apartment), depending on what years the house was built.In houses equipped with gas stoves, this is not provided. The voltage is everywhere 220 V. And the power of almost all induction systems is 7 kW, a regular network simply cannot stand it.

Ksarochka, sorry, but you are not only mistaken yourself, but also convincing others of this with an air of authority.))
Of course, many brews allow a 380 connection, separating two phases across two boards. But that's all.

What difference does it make what connection power the panel has? Well, I have this - the denomination is indicated at 7.4. So what? In my usual meter (220), the automation turns off the whole house when the load is 5 kW! Does it really bother me from using a full-size induction hob for many years? Which, by the way, has all 4 burners "large", 2.1 kW at the maximum. And on "3" only 300 watts. And at this power of 300 watts, any saucepan boils calmly, at least two liters, at least ten. Even on a deuce it boils slowly, I filmed a video.)) Although for the first boil, I put the soup above the middle, of course. I practically don't use boost.

Yes, in order to cook something using the stir-fry technique or quickly boil water, I use the maximum. This is 2.1 kW.
Well, that's all, this power is not good for anything else - everything runs away and burns. I repeat, this is on a 21 cm burner, which is not even present on all panels - there are a lot of cheap models with only 14.5, 16 or 18 cm burners, that is maximum the power of one burner is 1.5-1.8 kW. This is one and a half times lower than an iron and even less than a washing machine or vacuum cleaner.

You do not understand one thing - on the stove we turn on not so much watts as there are, but as many, how much do we need... If you need 300 watts to maintain a boil, then it doesn't matter which stove you take them from - from a full-fledged panel or from a Chinese under-tile.

Well, yes, in a house with old wiring, it would be nice to stretch a separate wire from the shield. And for this stove, and for a tabletop, and for a washing machine, and for a kettle, and for an iron, and for a vacuum cleaner.)) The latter devices have a similar power, but there is such a recommendation for the washer, but for some reason not for the iron. My washing machine consumes a maximum of two kilowatts, and an iron - two four hundred.

[Bijou]

Bijou, I will not argue and am not going to overpersuade. No wonder, probably, in new houses they throw a wire specifically for the stove, and it is reinforced (and then people themselves carry out both to the washing machine and to the air conditioner, but this is all in new buildings). I live in a house, according to the passport, in which the power of electrical appliances is registered as 1 kW (house built in 1989). This does not mean that I do not use a kettle and an iron)) but when I turn on the washing machine and kettle at the same time, traffic jams fly out. Why am I doing this? Advice is good, but you need to take into account the living conditions, otherwise you can advise such that then people will have to change all the wiring in the house.
And, by the way, our gas is still cheaper and in houses where an electric stove is not provided, the cost of kWh is almost 1.5 times higher.

I won't argue, and I am not going to overpersuade.

Well, okay. The main thing is that now people will not be afraid of the fact that 380 volts is supposedly required for an induction cooker.

[Bijou]

My plugs fly when the micra and the kettle are turned on at the same time. Although the house is completely new, but, apparently, everything needs reinforced sockets, like on a stove. In a future apartment, you probably need to carefully think over the wiring in this regard, so that five devices do not hang on one outlet (like I have now - a refrigerator, a micra, a cartoon, a kettle and even a quick connection y ...)
Bijou, of course, when he comes close to the choice of technology, I will come to be determined specifically! Now strategic planning. That is, in principle, what kind of device is needed, where I will stick it and what needs to be adjusted for this in terms of - walls, cabinets, wiring, etc. ... I was going to abandon the oven altogether - my husband became a wall, an infection. He has a couple of cakes in his family, he proudly bakes them once a few years. I refused right away, it was too much to lay two dozen cakes to Napoleon a thousand times. Well, at least I defended a two-burner instead of four.
Now I'm using an old Panas MK on baking, maybe I can convince you of its baking capacity? .. Where would I take baking sheets to it in full size and how to put it in? And then the device is hefty, but how to use the entire volume is unclear.

My plugs fly when the micra and the kettle are turned on at the same time. Although the house is completely new, but, apparently, everything needs reinforced sockets, like on a stove.

Or maybe if it was about the sockets, they would be spoiled? Well, they sparked, melted and the like. And if traffic jams "fly out", then the load on a particular line (there are several machines in the meter?) Did you try to include the kettle in another line simultaneously with the microra for the experiment? Well, or an iron ...

We have a power limitation, it sometimes happens that a lot of equipment runs up at once and everything is cut off. While I use one, I can track the amount of consumers and the sequence of their use, but when the roommates accidentally connect, then there are troubles. Either daughter will turn on a hairdryer (2.3 kW, for a minute!), Then the son will turn on the car wash, then the husband will weld.))

With two-burner inductions, everything is pretty sad. ((For frying, a larger burner is required, i.e. 21 cm. In fact, it will heat even less. Put a dessert plate inside your usual frying pan - this is exactly the size that will be heated in the center. A lot will cutlets or potatoes fit there?)

Of course, due to some tweaks, good dishes redistribute heat to the side of the road, but still the difference between "hot" and "very hot" always takes place. And you need to have an idea about this. Especially when we buy panels with even smaller burners. Aluminum and stainless steel with an aluminum layer are still so and so, and cast iron generally heats up badly around the edges, especially at the beginning of cooking. It doesn't matter for cooking - we adapt for frying.
Well, but it fries so that no gas dreamed of.)) A two-kilowatt gas burner at full power will blush my pancake in the same way as an induction burner does it for 4-5 out of nine.

Why am I ... But here's the thing - there are very, very few two-burner cooking with a 21 cm burner. I offhand from the old remember only one Siemens and one AEG.

[ekivoka_i]

And I wanted to say about the machines that can turn off the microwave with a kettle. These same machines are also different. ekivoka_i, say that the house is brand new. Maybe you have these very minimal machines? So they cut off. It is necessary to consult with an electrician, it may be enough to change the machine, and this is like changing the cork in a bottle, and there will be fewer problems,

[Bijou]

Bijou, Tanya-Fanyathank you girls! I'm afraid to change the plugs, if it cuts down, it means that it protects from excessive stress. I changed the kettle to ceramics, it is less powerful and keeps the heat longer, it seems, it stopped knocking out like that, but the reflex not to turn on together was preserved. So I want to carefully lay out the load lines for the equipment, so that later these clusters of equipment are not in every place, to distribute everything.
I grew up with a gas stove, and when I got married, I hung out with my husband in the garrisons and used electric stoves, the nastiest, with cast-iron pancakes. The thing that I don’t like, especially in the kitchen, is oh, I only started cooking with a slow cooker. Now I want something that is not inferior to gas - as I understand it, this is induction. Closer to the body we will look specifically, but preliminary conclusions have already been made. Maybe, before moving in, buy an induction cooker to get a closer look? ... (and throw away the stove ...)

[ekivoka_i]

ekivoka_i, in the evening after work I caught myself thinking that I turned on the microwave, a powerful kettle and a hand mixer at the same time - all on the same line. The house is of Stalinist construction, that is, the wiring corresponding to those times goes to the apartments. The apartment has already been reviewed with a professional electrician. Something like this

Please tell me what distance should be left under the gas hob and should it be separated from the cabinet at all? I want to throw away the old gas stove, put a cabinet in its place,a worktop and a built-in gas two-burner hob on it. Is it necessary to separate the hob from the bottom of the cabinet from the point of view of safety and usability of the cabinet? If so, how much to separate?

I suggest that you look at the installation diagrams on the websites of that cooking and that oven that you specifically chose. Everything will be there clearly with an indication of up to centimeters.
And the cabinets for the built-in oven are standard.

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, I will not have an oven, only a cooking one.

[Midnight lady]

Midnight lady, now I realized what kind of protection you wrote.

I just have both cookers sticking out like that. Under them are cabinets and shelves. Not boxes.

[Bijou]

Bijou, Thank you!

So I understand that there is no separate topic about induction here, so, right, here.)

Today we got a wonderful video! I remember that I already brought a cyclically working Gorene, in which the dumplings were boiling or not. Well, here's some entertainment about Beko for you today. I still shudder as I look.

Hello everyone!
I am choosing a new hob, I really like the models with a pattern
Tell me, please, did anyone have such, how durable the drawing is?

Hello ! I am faced with a choice - to buy a gas or induction hob. Can induction completely replace gas? Now I cook in a pressure cooker and a multicooker and there is a tabletop induction cooker. In a tabletop induction, heating is not quite uniform and at a minimum it still boils quite intensively. Is the hob free from such disadvantages? Or is it gas? It's still bad without a normal stove, although there are many devices. Please share your opinion - very necessary.

Is the hob devoid of such disadvantages?

Yes. If the panel is from a reliable manufacturer, then yes. I can say with confidence, because I owned both gas and electric ceramics, and have been using induction for a long time. I'm not overjoyed!

Dopleta Larisochka! Thanks for your feedback! Which manufacturer would you recommend? Do you also make workpieces on induction? That is, you never need gas or do you still have a situation when gas is needed? Sorry for curiosity, but believe me it's not idle ...

I am also very pleased with the induction hob, I have Siemens since 2009. Cyclicity in heating, as Lena showed, has never observed.

[Lena-Bijou]

That is, you never need gas.

Never! I understand you very well, I was worried myself when I changed, but I have never regretted it, but I am happy every day! Clean and fast! Yes, you read, there are many reviews of the owners of induction machines - everyone is happy! As for the manufacturer, I can only say that I am very pleased with my own Bosch, and I had no opportunity to compare with others. But we have Lena-Bijou great specialist in this matter. In my opinion, she wrote a lot on this topic, read it.

Svetlana Larisa Thank you for your answers and opinions - this is very important to me

there is a tabletop induction cooker. In a tabletop induction heating is not entirely uniform

I forgot to add that I also have desktop induction machines, two of them, and so I am also unhappy with them, and the panel is completely different.

Larissa! This is exactly what I wanted to hear - "the panel is completely different." And about joy - this is really different! all the same with my heart I gravitate towards induction - when you get used to cleanliness and safety it is difficult to return to gas. Thank you thank you thank you !

[thet]

thet, just recently, talking with someone here on the forum, I wrote that among my gigantic arsenal of kitchen devices and gadgets I have three favorites, for damage or loss of which I’m ready to kill: the ancient Victorinox vegetable peeler, a blender soup cooker and my exclusive induction panel.

[There should be no intermittent boiling.]

Larissa! This is exactly what I wanted to hear - "the panel is completely different"

Do not forget - Larisa and Svetlana are opaquely hinting that problem-free work is inherent only in "normal" brands.) If you are chasing an elegant appearance or cheapness, it is better to ask again or find the owner three times to make you a video of how water boils at low power ... There should be no intermittent boiling. More precisely, some switchings are present, but there is no separation between "boils - not boils".

Because there are many panels, the filling of which is no different from Chinese tabletop tiles. ((Sometimes these are even very expensive options, but poor ones. Sometimes one manufacturer has both, then the choice becomes complicated.

When you decide on some options - you are welcome, we will discuss here. In the meantime, choose a panel with a connection of at least seven kilowatts (standard 7.4) and at least one hotplate of 21 cm / 2.2 (3) kW / 3, + kW on boost.

Bijou! Lena! Thanks for the valuable information! We will look for ..... Larisa agrees with you - a good stove is a great value for the hostess, that's why I rush. I will definitely share my impressions if I buy.

Hello everyone! I choose a hob, I really want induction. The question is ripe: can you use aluminum dishes on it? I have a 2-bucket stockpot that makes my life a lot easier, can I use it? Before that I used only a gas stove.

I choose a hob, I really want induction. The question is ripe: can you use aluminum dishes on it?

No. The dishes that are magnetically suitable for induction (i.e. attracts a magnet). But there are combined plates. Part of the burners is induction, and the other part is glass-ceramic. These burners work with different brands of cookware made of aluminum, stainless steel and cast iron

I have a 2-bucket stockpot that makes my life a lot easier, can I use it?

With adapter disc only. But this disc turns an induction hotplate into a regular electric one, therefore it will heat up much slower than on induction. That is why many people do not like it, the disc, which, in comparison with induction, slows down the process, but if there is no strength to decide on a complete change of dishes, this is a way out. For example, I cook on it in a ceramic tagine on induction.