Bread maker Brand 3801 - description, characteristics, operation

To cancel the current program, the on / off button must be pressed and held.
To select manual mode, the "manual mode" button must be pressed briefly; to start programming - press and hold this button.
If you are in the "manual mode" programming mode, you need to press the "manual setting" button to cancel the wrong settings.
Manual configuration saves your last program settings. Therefore, if you have recorded a certain mode, then the next time you turn on the bread maker on this program, you can immediately press the "start" button. And the execution of the program you recorded last will begin.

Elena Br, I also want to say gratitude, since this mode will torment more than others.

[bakery]

Get ready, Lena, get ready:

..... "The village suffering is in full swing ... (bakery!)
You share! - Russian female share!
Hardly harder to find! "

A little advice:
how you start to use yours - run it first on "noodles" - water ml 160 and flour 160 grams - that's 14 minutes. Then discard the contents.
And start with 750 g milk - this is a win-win!

Girls, I want to join your ranks of bakers, but I still can't decide on the stove! I kind of stopped at Vinaton 2169, but you started actively discussing Vrand and now I'm thinking: buy Vinaton (bribes in various forms) or wait for Vrand. Experienced hostesses, help !!!!!

Girls, I want to join your ranks of bakers, but I still can't decide on the stove! I kind of stopped at Vinaton 2169, but you started actively discussing Vrand and now I'm thinking: buy Vinaton (bribes in various forms) or wait for Vrand. Experienced hostesses, help !!!!!

I don’t know about binaton. This one - now I can safely advise - take it! Bread - from simple to complex - good! And the scales are there, which is very important for beginners. Then you will throw flour and pour liquid with your eyes closed, but at first without scales it is difficult.
Just take the course of a young fighter on the forum - there will be less disappointments and jambs!

Girls, I want to join your ranks of bakers, but I still can't decide on the stove! I kind of stopped at Vinaton 2169, but you started actively discussing Vrand and now I'm thinking: buy Vinaton (bribes in various forms) or wait for Vrand. Experienced hostesses, help !!!!!

I took this Binatosha two years ago, the stove itself is good, but the programming loses to Brand. If I bought it now, it would be Brand.

Olya, I completely agree with you that everyone should adapt for themselves. But the main thing is the Program works! and there is no boning in between proofing! Super, I baked wheat-rye in sourdough without yeast for a total rise of 2.5 hours, but this is in the turned off oven, and this temperature is maintained, which means it will take less time to rise. This I am training until the stove arrives and I specify the time. Ol, and if the dough came up faster than expected, can you remove the next proofing for baking, or do you need to start the program again?

No, she died so she died - just as it is impossible to reconfigure any other auto-program. You can switch off and put on the Baking program.
Why train?
Open the instructions on the website of this company and - "learn the words!" At least the text is readable there.

No, she died so she died - just as it is impossible to reconfigure any other auto-program. You can switch off and put on the Baking program.
Why train?
Open the instructions on the website of this company and - "learn the words!" At least the text is readable there.

Well, the instructions are already up and down.

The "Manual setting" button also does not react immediately, even if, as it is written, press and hold. It turns out so far only from the third or fourth attempt. But it turns out ...

And then figured out the management? Does it work on the first try?

MariV, Nevushka, thank you very much for your advice!

..... Vadim ..... I think - - kind of like your company's obligations to write everything in sugar syrup; about the disadvantages of whispering in your ear - too.
Then I'll tell you as it is - I figured out the control in theory; in practice - not the first time I entered this mode - maybe I'm slowing down somewhere, or maybe she, HP.
I'll go further with this program - I liked it!

Of course, I'm very sorry, maybe I'm asking the wrong question, but I really want to become the owner of such an assistant as quickly as possible and repeat your masterpieces! I have a question for SVP: "Victor, but Brand is sold only in Moscow and will it be possible to purchase it in Krasnodar?"

To cancel the current program, the on / off button must be pressed and held.
To select manual mode, press the "manual mode" button briefly; to start programming - press and hold this button.
If you are in the "manual mode" programming mode, you need to press the "manual setting" button to cancel the wrong settings. The display will show the program number 16 and the time of the previous settings. To start programming, press and hold the "Manual setup" button again.
Manual configuration saves your last program settings. Therefore, if you have recorded a certain mode, then the next time you turn on the bread maker on this program, you can immediately press the "start" button. And the execution of the program you recorded last will begin. Thus, your unique mode remains in the memory of the bread machine.

I would be very glad if you write whether my clarifications helped when programming in the "manual setting" mode.

They helped a lot! Thank you!

Oh my God, forgive me my mistake! But still I hope that Vadim will answer me, no matter what

Natalia, do you want to buy HP?
If you are fond of baking, then definitely, it is worth purchasing such HP. I don’t know what Panasonic is doing right now, but this one has great opportunities and room for creativity.

Oh my God, forgive me my mistake! But still I hope that Vadim will answer me, no matter what

I, of course, not Vadim, but I will try to answer: you can place an order on the company's website, pay through Sberbank and it will be delivered to you to the transport company (TC). In my experience, from Moscow to Krasnodar TK PEC - 2-3 days and 300 rubles. Shipping cost is paid in the shopping mall upon receipt. Pick up in Russian.

MariV, Nevushka, thank you for your advice! I really want to make myself a present for the New Year, but I still can't decide! Already my husband swears, because I always choose the stove at the computer, but with your help, I think that the torment has come to an end!

[Manual mode"]

About program management "Manual mode" - how hot, God loves the trinity!
Once again I carefully studied the mat. part - that is, detailed explanations Elena- and I did it right away!
... and what will I picture today with this program ........

[Nevushka]

Of course, I'm very sorry, maybe I'm asking the wrong question, but I really want to become the owner of such an assistant as quickly as possible and repeat your masterpieces! I have a question for SVP: "Victor, but Brand is sold only in Moscow and will it be possible to purchase it in Krasnodar?"

good day

To date, we do not have direct dealers to Krasnodar, and we cannot track other supply channels to Krasnodar.So now, the easiest option is the one that prompted you Nevushka

... you can place an order on the company's website, pay through Sberbank and it will be delivered to you to the transport company (TC). In my experience, from Moscow to Krasnodar TK PEC - 2-3 days and 300 rubles. Shipping cost is paid in the shopping mall upon receipt. Pick up in Russian.

Thank you Nevushka for your help

The idea is great! but since I was not destined to become the happy owner of such a miracle technology, even on the basis of testing rights, but to possess it as horror as a hunt, I went to order your miracle oven! The main thing is that she does not disappoint and be without marriage, otherwise I will not survive the entovo

Olyayayaya !!! Master !!!

Hiiiii ...

What are you happy about, Ganya? This is me - about the "Manual" program - there, to start it, you need to press the "Manual setting" button at first gently, but firmly, "Tyts", and to start the program, you need to score gently, but slowly. And in order for everything to be recorded - again it is necessary decisively and quickly! The main thing is not to confuse!
And I got it wrong in the beginning!

The idea is great! but since I was not destined to become the happy owner of such a miracle technology, even on the basis of testing rights, but to possess it as horror as a hunt, I went to order your miracle oven! The main thing is that she does not let her down and is without marriage, otherwise I will not survive entvo

You know, there is no need to be afraid - examine it carefully when buying - no one and nothing is insured against marriage! You can also buy expensive Swiss watches in Lucerne, and they will get up in three months! batteries will run out ).
But - a very interesting thing!

Yesterday I ran the maximum proofing time on the Manual program, and today I decided to test the maximum kneading time - 42 minutes.
...
Ciabatta is such a delicious Italian bread, with big holes and a crispy crust.
The dough, to get silky, requires Italian durum flour or our bakery, and long kneading, at least half an hour, proofing in a warm place - from 2 hours.
To do it manually - you won't want to do any ciabatta, in other models of HP you need to knead it - it is necessary to put the "pelmeni" program more than once, then take it out of the HP and let it sit in a warm place.

And in this one - we'll draw everything for ourselves!

Moreover, I learned how to run it from the first press! (PROGRAM, not HP!)

MariV Impressive amount of work done
Did I understand correctly that in this recipe a bread maker was used instead of a mixer?

Was a bread maker used instead of a mixer?

kneader ...

In fact, this is a huge plus of HP Brand ...

girls, I already asked, maybe I missed your answer, but in my opinion it was not.
1. is it possible to turn off the signal from HP?
2. one of the photos showed a slit - the assembly was limp, this is for two tested specimens. or one?

3. And the third question is probably to Vadim - if suddenly, the stove ordered on the Internet turns out to be defective, how to return it? again TK? and at whose expense?

unpleasant that the second time you don't answer ... but oh well!

Is it for me or ...? If to me, then I was just not at home, walking the dogs.

to you and the second girl ... answer? there are 2 questions above, thanks in advance. What do you think for a beginner HP as the first fit?

[I hope that my baked goods will give an idea to beginners like me, that any beginner will cope with the Brand bread maker, literally from the first attempts.]

to you and the second girl ... answer? there are 2 questions above, thanks in advance. What do you think for a beginner HP as the first fit?

I didn’t see your question, but you can see that you are also reading inattentively, but meanwhile I already wrote (December 13, post 481), I hope that my baked goods will give an idea to beginners like me, that any beginner will cope with the Brand bread maker, literally from the first attempts.

girls, I already asked maybe I missed your answer, but in my opinion it was not.
1. is it possible to turn off the signal from HP?
2. one of the photos showed a gap - the assembly was limp, this is in two tested specimens. or one?

3. And the third question is probably to Vadim - if suddenly, the stove ordered on the Internet turns out to be defective, how to return it? again TK? and at whose expense?

I mean these two questions.

I mean these two questions.

With the signal turned off, I did not even think, for me it is necessary. It's better to ask this question to the company.
And there are no defects in my bread maker.

Thank you.

[necessarily]

girls, I already asked, maybe I missed your answer, but in my opinion it was not.
1. is it possible to turn off the signal from HP?
2. one of the photos showed a gap - the assembly was limp, this is in two tested specimens. or one?
3. And the third question is probably to Vadim - if suddenly, the stove ordered on the Internet turns out to be defective, how to return it? again TK? and at whose expense?

Good day.
1. The signal cannot be turned off.
2. The lid of the bread machine is removable, and a small gap, which, by the way, does not affect the quality of baking, is not critical. Only one bread maker was defective (at the moment).
3. Before sending to a private customer, a technician necessarily checked in our warehouse. If, nevertheless, you received a bread maker and found a defect, then we will cover the shipping costs. If problems arise during operation, then you contact the service center of your city, and if there is none, then you contact our company (via the video *** website and we will discuss ways to solve the problem together. Then the shipment is at your expense.

I have everything under control, don't worry! not for the first time! Where is your bread maker?

Vikul is coming. I have already received the forwarding receipt. I sat down at a low start, I'm ready to start after her on the first call, but I don't think I'll see her before Monday. Itself is already worn out. You will test everything, I will have nothing left.

girls, I already asked, maybe I missed your answer, but in my opinion it was not.
1. is it possible to turn off the signal from HP?
2. one of the photos showed a gap - the assembly was limp, this is in two tested specimens. or one?

3. And the third question is probably to Vadim - if suddenly, the stove ordered on the Internet turns out to be defective, how to return it? again TK? and at whose expense?

The second girl is me, I guess
- can be disabled - by putting on "manual";
- this is not a gap, it is a loose fit of the lid to the body; judging by the quality of the baked goods, it has no effect!

Vikul is coming. I have already received the forwarding receipt. I sat down at a low start, I'm ready to start after her on the first call, but I don't think I'll see her before Monday. Itself is already worn out. You will test everything, I will have nothing left.

Remains - gluten-free baked goods. There are no recipes for it in the recipe book - a huge scope for creativity!

Remains - gluten-free baked goods. There are no recipes for it in the recipe book - a huge scope for creativity!

Yeah, Ol, she consoled him, but who will eat him? Mine were completely spoiled, today they told me to bake bread for them "like last time, not completely rye, but not white, we are tired of white."

Are blends necessary for gluten-free baked goods or not? And then we have a lot of tension with this.

[Vadim]

Good day!

As a result of a number of events at yesterday's Koptev rally, the Brand was launched in parallel, the model ... the model ... well, the model that I Vadim In the morning Panasonic also sent 255.

Ingredients laid Husky, hit the buttons Jeffrey, well, I took the bread maker itself Antonovka... The paparazzi was Crowe... The photo report will be an evening horse, but for now I ran in for a minute.

The bread was wheat-rye (well, mine, shpilkin bread) for 300 grams of flour. So.

1. Both domes were domed. Not a single dome collapsed;
2. In height, Panasonic won 1.5-2 cm;
3. The color passport was won by Panasonic. Panasonic's bread turned out to be ooooooo rosy, but Brand's - pale-pale. To what extent this can be adjusted by changing the crust to golden brown, and setting to a large size - I don't know. Tanyusha without numbers says that with a power of less than 600 watts, no model does not produce ruddy bread.
4. The scales on the veil gave identical results with my Tefal. So with a five-ruble coin ... although ... damn ... I remember the scales ... Jeffrey I remember ... I don't remember the coin ... Maybe we just didn't find it? But something we are with Jeffrey checked ... And there even something came together ... And on my lighters ... and on something else heavy ... Only my Tefal pulls up to 3 kg, and Brand - up to 2 kg.
5. Result memory time. My Tefal has time to "run to the sack of flour and return in time" Jeffrey I measured it with the figure "AFIGET !!!" On a time scale, this value is identical to 2 minutes 20 seconds. Brand needs to run faster. There - 30 seconds.
6. All of the above is relative and subject to discussion. The only weakness of the Brand I recorded was too strong a sound when mixing.

Well, that seems to be all ...

[Jeffrey]

Oh, here's another thing. Jeffrey said that with such a structure ... a structure ... a structure ... THAT FIGHT WHICH SPINS THE BLADE !!! Bookmarking products from liquid to dry is questionable. And there is a chance that it is necessary to lay food in the opposite direction !!!

[Jeffrey]

Oh, here's another thing. Jeffrey said that with such a structure ... a structure ... a structure ... THAT FIGHT WHICH SPINS THE BLADE !!! Bookmarking products from liquid to dry is questionable. And there is a chance that it is necessary to lay food in the opposite direction !!!

Hairpin, I will definitely try as you recommend!

[Catwoman]

Catwoman!

Well we were laying from dry to liquid. There Jeffrey I made some clever speech about the structure of the shaft ... I hardly understood when I was sober ... and I immediately agreed to be drunk. This I mean when Jeffrey when he gets home, he will probably be able to repeat everything that he tried to explain to me ... What if someone understands him?

I, frankly, laid the same as in Panas - first dry, then wet. By the way, my husband really liked the scapula.

And I still have a question - I don't have the strength to go read the instructions now - can I put the dough with a delay ??

Yeah, Ol, she consoled him, but who will eat him? Mine were completely spoiled, today they told me to bake bread for them "like last time, not completely rye, but not white, we are tired of white."

Are blends necessary for gluten-free baked goods or not? And then we have a lot of tension with this.

You can choose the composition of the mixture itself.
Regarding - who will eat - then I will only bake French bread!

[Tanyusha without numbers]

...
3. The color passport was won by Panasonic. Panasonic's bread turned out to be ooooooo rosy, but Brand's - pale-pale. To what extent this can be adjusted by changing the crust to golden brown, and setting to a large size - I don't know. Tanyusha without numbers says that with a power of less than 600 watts, no model does not produce ruddy bread.
...

You might think that it was read yesterday ...

And what is above is like homework - they gave HP for testing, so I, if possible, honestly and torture!

MariV, well done
He approaches the question carefully
Otherwise, some will drink champagne, do not read the instructions and let's bake pale-pale bread

[Tanyusha without numbers]

Panasonic's bread turned out to be ooooooo rosy, but Brand's - pale-pale. To what extent this can be adjusted by changing the crust to golden brown, and setting to a large size - I don't know. Tanyusha without numbers says that with a power of less than 600 watts, no model does not produce ruddy bread.

By the way, the power of Panasonic is only 550W, and the bread is ruddy ..

[Girls !!!!]

Girls !!!!! I received Brandik, it's worth warming up, then I'll put the first bread!

Hurrah!!! waited!

[Lenus]

Lenus, Congratulations!!! And I'm already swallowing drool, from the bread that you will bake and tease us!

[SVP]

SVP, so what happened to her?

Good day.
The marriage had the body of the bread machine itself.

[Catwoman]

we baked it seems rye bread

Need to drink less! Should drink less!!!

Catwoman, Lenok, congratulations !!! We are waiting for joint creations!

Need to drink less! Should drink less!!!

it's a sin to laugh at ... I don't even know what to call it, but personally my dose turned out to be hoo!
and the bread turned out delicious!

[sho show here]

I ran to say a huge thank you to Vadim for the kindly provided bread maker for testing! at the rally we played it - Lena-Antonovka got the stove! it turned out to be a very pleasant New Year's surprise!
the stove passed the first test! we baked rye bread, it seems (Luda-Haska and Zhenya-Jeffrey would say more precisely, they loaded the products). I'll post the photo results later, and then the people will pull up, they will also tell

Thanks again to Vadim! (I don’t have emoticons at work! there should be a smiley bowing at my feet!)

and the stove is cool - so beautiful, there is a scale (which is ooooooooo very convenient!), I liked it!

No, well done,sho show here... And the rally was organized: drinks: and they arranged a rally, they made a surprise to the person, they conducted tests, did they also get some bread or did you grill it fresh with gamuz?

they didn’t grump fresh bread - I snatched half a loaf of the finished product at the hairpin and ate it with pleasure before leaving!

and here is how we unpacked the stove (in the main roles, the bread maker Brand and Zhenya-Jeffrey)