MariV
You know the song: “.. I don’t know such a country” - I don’t know because I haven’t been - and with these models - Delong, new Panasonic and Ariete - I personally don’t know any of the models - but who is familiar? It can be compared if each of the above is used for at least a year.
Vanya28
And where to see the description of happiness?
There is no link to instructions on the first pages,
no table of modes of all programs.
Catwoman
Quote: Vanya28

And where to see the description of happiness?
On the first pages there is no link to instructions,
no table of modes of all programs.
Vanya28, instructions and descriptions of the modes can be found on the Brand's website.
Vanya28
Quote: Catwoman

Vanya28, instructions and descriptions of the modes can be found on the Brand's website.
A very decent stove turned out to be possible.
Temperature of each of the three dough rises
and the baking temperature are adjustable.
Class!
The scales are already included and for the same money!
The top bakes normally.
With all three ascents to the maximum, the time is - 4 hours 30 minutes,
and when the kneading is set to 0, the stirrer turns off and does not spin,
which is very good for rye bread



The name of the site is funny, you won't find it right away!

Here he is: Bread maker Brand 3801 - description, characteristics, operation

Mode tables for all programs Brand 3801 Bread Makers

Bread maker Brand 3801 - description, characteristics, operation

Bread maker Brand 3801 - description, characteristics, operation

Bread maker Brand 3801 - description, characteristics, operation
Elena Br
Quote: Vanya28

And where to see the description of happiness?
On the first pages there is no link to instructions,
no table of modes of all programs.
Good day.
Description of the Brand 3801 bread maker, as well as instructions can be found on the Brand website.
🔗*

P. S. Thanks to Elena Catwoman for the added tables.
Antonovka
Elena Br,
Elena, can I ask you to make the same heading on page 27 as on page 26 for further instructions? It's just not very convenient to look at the names of the columns on the previous page
Well, this is me so for the convenience of the following users

14anna08,
I am not very friendly with sourdough yet. I only bake in the oven with sourdough, and even then only with Vika's "Rye semi-finished product" - the rest are dying at the careless hostess
Elena Br
Quote: Antonovka

Elena Br,
Elena, can I ask you to make the same heading on page 27 as on page 26 for further instructions? It's just not very convenient to look at the names of the columns on the previous page
Well, this is me so for the convenience of the following users

Okay, I'll definitely do it.
Vanya28
Quote: 14anna08

girls, could you try or tweak the following recipe in manual mode:
Rye bread 100% from peeled and seeded flour in HP.
only on the first page I didn’t see the link to the sourdough, I didn’t read it yet, maybe further, outwardly very nice bread, I myself cannot adapt when the hp comes.

In the recipe you have chosen, everything is done in a semiautomatic device in HP Panasonic.
In your case, program your HP and create on full automatic.

Heating - 0 minutes
Kneading 1 - 3-5 minutes, his kneading speed should be small (guess). We help with a spatula.
Rest - 0 minutes
Kneading 2 - 15-20 minutes. We help with a spatula.
Ascent 1 - 90 minutes
Kneading 3 (kneading) 0 minutes
Ascent 2 - 90 minutes
Kneading 4 (kneading) - 0 minutes
Ascent 3 - 0 minutes
Baking - 70 minutes
Rise temperature - 34C degrees
Baking temperature - 160C degrees
Keeping warm at discretion - 0-60 minutes.

Everything else, read and do as in the recipe.
You measure, fall asleep, bake.
The paddle does not need to be removed.
What to look for
when the dough is rising, watch the rise through the window,
if the dough does not have time to come up, turn off the bread maker and wait for the dough to rise,
do not open the lid,
if it comes up quickly, switch to baking earlier.
Success!

Catwoman
Quote: Elena Br

Good day.
Description of the Brand 3801 bread maker, as well as instructions can be found on the Brand website.
🔗

P. S. Thanks to Elena Catwoman for the added tables.

Elena BrThanks to Vanya, not me, I can't do that.
Catwoman


Vanya28, the scales are included, the crust is normal, I do not seal the window, when the kneading is set, the mixer does not turn on at all, in terms of noise like Kenwood, I also have Panasonic, but the manual capabilities overlap a little noisy work. Although I hardly notice it, I baked it at night on a delay, it does not interfere with sleep. But someone can hear Panasik too. Nothing so short?
Vanya28
Quote: Catwoman

Vanya28, the scales are included, the crust is normal, I do not glue the window, when setting the kneading, the mixer does not turn on at all, in terms of noise like Kenwood, I also have a Panasonic, but the manual capabilities overlap a little noisy work. Although I hardly notice it, I baked it at night on a delay, it does not interfere with sleep. But someone can hear Panasik too. Nothing so short?

If I understand correctly, when the Stroke = 0 seconds is set, the stirrers do not spin?
Antonovka
Vanya28,
If I understand correctly, when the Stroke = 0 seconds is set, the stirrers do not spin?
Do not spin
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Vanya28


A very decent stove turned out to be possible.
Temperature of each of the three dough rises
and the baking temperature are adjustable.
Class!
The scales are already included and for the same money!
The top bakes normally.
With all three ascents to the maximum, the time is - 4 hours 30 minutes,
and when the kneading is set to 0, the stirrer turns off and does not spin,
which is very good for rye bread

Thank you for your positive rating

Quote: Vanya28


The name of the site is funny, you won't find it right away!



There is such

14anna08
Quote: Catwoman

Hell today "Uncle Sam's Lazy Croissant" Everything is standard, on program 11 - TEST, they brought the dough, this program lacks a delay in starting, then I took it out, rolled it out thinner, greased it very generously, sprinkled it with ground cinnamon, rolled it up and back into a bucket. And again, I miss the program: Proofing with pastries., It would be very nice if there was a separate program instead of Jem or one of the Express. Or it would have been possible to manually hammer in the proofing with pastries, but no matter how I got hungry, I didn't want the oven to obey. I had to follow the rise of the dough and switch to program 15 - baking. Proofing took 30-40 minutes, no more. Baking 1.10.
Vadim will take into account your wishes or is it not real?
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Catwoman

Hell today "Uncle Sam's Lazy Croissant" Everything is standard, on program 11 - TEST, they brought the dough, this program lacks a delay in starting, then I took it out, rolled it out thinner, greased it very generously, sprinkled it with ground cinnamon, rolled it up and back into a bucket. And again, I miss the program: Proofing with pastries., It would be very nice if there was a separate program instead of Jem or one of the Express. Or it would have been possible to manually hammer in the proofing with pastries, but no matter how I got hungry, I didn't want the oven to obey. I had to follow the rise of the dough and switch to program 15 - baking. Proofing took 30-40 minutes, no more. Baking 1.10.

Let's think it over. Can't answer yet
Arturka
A question for testers and users of Brand 3801: well, the results are controversial in terms of baking quality. but as to the quality of the product itself, whether there is enough power for baking or preferably more, how the coating of the bucket behaves and the quality of the bucket itself, the quality of the plastic and so on. etc.
MariV
Enough power for baking - baked bread on "French" with armor-piercing composition - rustic - increased power and look at the crust - baked very well!
The quality of plastic - it is necessary to disassemble HP, peel off the plastic, and conduct an independent examination to the laboratory! Where does the bread come into contact with the plastic?
What is the bucket from - manufacturers can answer this question; I am a regular user.
Do you look after HP for yourself or how is it sold?
Arturka
Quote: MariV

Enough power for baking - baked bread on "French" with armor-piercing composition - rustic - increased power and look at the crust - baked very well!
The quality of plastic - it is necessary to disassemble HP, peel off the plastic, and conduct an independent examination to the laboratory! Where does the bread come into contact with the plastic?
The quality of the plastic is visual: it was not caused by partial heating and is there a smell, is it yellow, but how does the bucket and its coating behave after your crash tests
I look after my family, if I wouldn’t warm my head for sale
MariV
Well, I use relatively often at max. power - not, did not twist the plastic; a bucket - so far nothing, no visible damage.
Yes, if only I would have yelled first here!
What is it to me, I am an independent, as it were, a tester!
Catwoman
Quote: Arturka

The quality of the plastic is visual: it was not caused by partial heating and is there a smell, is it yellow, but how does the bucket and its coating behave after your crash tests
I look after my family, if I wouldn’t warm my head for sale

Plastic, like plastic, is white, did not turn yellow, there was no smell, how the coating of the bucket would behave, well, it’s too early to answer this question. So far, everything is normal. I interfere with everything to the maximum, copes well too. I laid out my wishes in the topic.
MariV
Arthur, have you already had experience of operating the HP house? That is, you have already used HP?
Arturka
Personally, I don't. Friends of Panasa.
MariV
When in doubt - take a trusted brand - and sleep well!
After all, Brand has this first HP model. Although very good so far! I have something to compare with - I have Panasonic.
Leska
Quote: Arturka

Personally, I don't. Friends of Panasa.
Then look at Panas from the back of his face, he has a yellow spot on the plastic and nothing can remove it, but this does not affect the operation of the stove.
Nevushka
VS NIKA great bread!

For all beginners and hesitant bakers - take a look at Vick - VS NIKA, what beautiful breads she has and cast aside all doubts!
14anna08
Hurray already 31 !!!! happy New Year to everybody!
The Year of the Dragon is coming to us!

Will he bring us something?
Every sign from the zodiac
Expects something from him

In the Year of the Dragon at the Snake
A lot of happiness and love
Much joy, good luck
And it couldn't be otherwise!

In the Year of the Dragon at the Horse
And deeds and thoughts are smooth
Everything is fine, everything is smart
And success awaits them in everything!

In the Year of the Dragon of the Goats
Living surrounded by roses
Breathe in their scent
But that the rose has thorns
And don't forget!

In the Year of the Dragon Monkey
Have hot romances!
They are smart, they are cunning
And the tongue is sharp

In the Year of the Dragon Rooster
They write passionate poetry
Laurels of glory reap
And do not lose heart!

In the Year of the Dragon, all Dogs
Forget quarrels, fights,
Will have fun peacefully
And be proud of your family!

In the Year of the Dragon of the Pig
A lot of happiness and love!
Many friends and many girlfriends
Cozy and warm family circle!

In the Year of the Dragon, the Cunning Rat
Things are booming better and better!
Health is in order, friends are always there,
What else do we need in life for happiness?

In the Year of the Dragon, the Ox
The burden will not be easy:
Happiness, good luck shaft
And dump truck fun!

In the year of the Dragon, the Tiger does not sleep,
But it purrs, does not growl,
Plainly sharpens its claws
Famous soon!

In the Year of the Dragon at the Cat
Life is continuous:
Many happy surprises
Festive vanity!

In the year of the Dragon, believe me
All Dragons on horseback!
This year is a year of success
Will bring good luck to everyone!
LET THE COMING YEAR OF THE DRAGON
WILL BRING HAPPINESS AND WELL-BEING IN YOUR HOME !!!
Kisena
Quote: V

So what is delicious bread through Brandt or not? I can not hear...

Two days ago I became the owner of such an assistant, after reading the recommendations, reviews of the girls. This is my first HP. I have a culinary experience, I cook well, but the thought that something will not work out was frightening (I don't like this, because I get very upset and worry for a very long time).So yesterday I baked the first Milk bread: very tasty, no bubbles, the oven kneaded everything well, the dough rose well, and there is no bread without small holes, this is a yeast product, but everything is very even. My family really liked it. Now I'm baking Frenchman, while everything is OK and the bun and the rise of the dough! I hope I have answered your question.
Look at the creations of VS NIKI: what kind of products does she get, but she recently began to master HP, and if it were not tasty, then it is unlikely that she would have baked in such quantities, and her home-cooked would have eaten it all!
Catwoman
GIRLS, HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!! HEALTH, HAPPINESS, SUCCESS !!!!!.
Vichka
"NEW YEAR BREAD"
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Bread maker Brand 3801 - description, characteristics, operation
14anna08
everything is just lovely - and you, and bread, and a Christmas tree!
tatjanka
VS NIKA, you are just lovely Now it is clear why you get such bread. Otherwise, you simply could not. Is the mono "NEW YEAR BREAD" closer? Oh, I froze something, he's probably gone for a long time.
Crochet
Vikulya, I certainly apologize wildly, but in my opinion in your profile, in the age column, a gross mistake was made ... Yes otkel they indicated there numbers for you? Fix it soon! Look great !!!

And you don't have New Year's bread for an hour FOR THIS RECIPE baked?
Catwoman
Quote: Vanya28

Explain the flimsy or good quality of the design Brand 3801?
What does it really look like?

Here is a quote from a potential buyer:
I'd like to understand the truth!

Vanya28, I'm certainly not Vika, but I can add my "5 cents" for clarity. I also have this bread maker, it does not give the impression of being flimsy, the bucket is inserted into the bread maker and turns slightly clockwise, when kneading it does not jump, it stands firmly, my first bread maker was Kenwood 250, the bucket was attached from above into the grooves, but during kneading regularly jumped off, in Panasonic 256 the bucket is not attached at all, it has been injecting for 1.5 years. Kneading Brandik very diligently, you can't even say that the total power is 450 watts. The plastic is white. there are almost no gaps, which I also really like, it is purely outside, under the lid, on the case there is black plastic, it will not turn yellow when heated. Yesterday I was kneading wheat-rye bread dough in it, fell asleep and came up only when she pressed, mixed everything to the last grain, there were no leftovers anywhere. I really like the manual mode, just awesome, before that I tortured the girls about the manual mode, but in all of them, it was impossible to completely cancel one or another item in the programming, but here you can cancel and program as you need. This is very important for me, because I bake sourdough bread, and there is very little time. In Panasonic, this function is not. I had to dance for half a day in front of the bread maker, it was impossible to leave. It is possible that the design is not for everybody, but for me "filling and possibilities" are important. The buttons on the case are also not touch controls, but I think that all this will be improved. Moreover, this is 1 bread maker, which they created and at the same time listen to our opinion. I would have bought it, even if it had only 1 "Manual Mode" program in its program, and then you can score for yourself as you like. "Manual mode" is very easy and understandable, even a beginner can handle it. Yes, I forgot, I don't close the window with anything. If you have any questions, ask, I will answer.
Vanya28
Quote: Catwoman

Vanya28, I'm certainly not Vika, but I can add my "5 cents" for clarity. I also have this bread maker, it does not make the impression of flimsy, the bucket is inserted into the bread maker and turns slightly clockwise, when kneading it does not jump, it stands firmly, I have it first ...

Thanks a lot!
Expected answer, very good to confirm the functionality of this bread maker.
I will now recommend to those in need.

Catwoman
Quote: 14anna08

what did you want to say? that the oven is bad or that they explain to you why the bread did not come out?

Vika, really, how much do you have time to bake!
Anyut, did you get the stove or not yet? How is your leaven?
Vanya28
Quote: VS NIKA

Maybe I'm off topic today, but I'll ask.
Put sandwich bread in the oven, do you need to put some water under the bread?

There will be no excess moisture in the oven.
Is it an oven, gas or electricity?
In gas, it will obviously only benefit.
And tell me, have I looked through something, bake in the Brand and the oven?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: MariV

Someone was very interested in the price of this HP - today in the shopping center "New Cheryomushki" on Profsoyuznaya in the pavilion "Technopark" I saw it already on sale - the price is 7990 rubles.
Abadet! Almost two prices!
14anna08
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Abadet! Almost two prices!
wow !!! too, I can’t help it though, and of!
Catwoman
I didn't quite understand, is this the price of our bread maker?
MariV
Yes, girls - I myself was in shock today when I saw this price; more expensive there was about 8500; but which one, I don’t remember. But the whole main series of popular HP was presented. The brand is second in value. Pavilion DE21-28.
MariV
Quote: Catwoman

Ol, me too, for any bread. In general, only this mode is enough, the rest are idle, not needed. If there was still a shutdown button on the case, otherwise I forget to pull the plug out of the socket and at night I woke up from the fact that my bread maker turned on and something was interfering there, I got up. went into the kitchen, and this is my Snezhik conducting an inspection in the kitchen and poked his nose into the "start" and she turned on.
Yes, Lena, agree! I, too, with this button (according to Panasonyev's habit) first "turned down" - now I am pulling the plug out of the socket.
Yesterday, in general, I arranged a 9-hour marathon for my stove - not on purpose, it happened - first a simple wheat one - 4.5 hours, then I kneaded it twice on dumplings, then I put it out of sprouted grain in sourdough - my meat grinder could not stand it - it broke while I was spinning the sprouted grain , and HP survived the 30-minute batch, and baked goods were 1.20 at the highest T! How!
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Catwoman

Ol, me too, for any bread. In general, only this mode is enough, the rest are idle, not needed. If there was still a shutdown button on the case, otherwise I forget to pull the plug out of the socket and at night I woke up from the fact that my bread maker turned on and something was interfering there, I got up. went into the kitchen, and this is my Snezhik conducting an inspection in the kitchen and poked his nose into the "start" and she turned on.

Yes-ah-ah, attempts by pets to bake bread, too, were not taken into account by the developers. Let's think about the button

Gasha, thanks for the links.
Kisena
Girls, tell me how to use manual mode. The fact is that I tried to use it for kneading and raising the dough for the cake, but there was no reaction when I pressed the Manual mode button. Maybe I did something wrong?
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Kisyona

Girls, tell me how to use manual mode. The fact is that I tried to use it for kneading and raising the dough for the cake, but there was no reaction when I pressed the Manual mode button. Maybe I was doing something wrong?

All HIGHLY simply.
1. Pressing the "MANUAL setting" button once. The display will show the 16th mode (manual).
2. Repeated long pressing of the "MANUAL setting" button will start programming the manual mode. You will see the 1st stage of the mode on the display, and then program the stages in accordance with the instructions
14anna08
Quote: SVP

Albeit with a delay, but I want to congratulate all the BEAUTIFUL LADIES and MEN a Happy New Year and Merry Christmas

I got some time on vacation and we tried our Brand 3801 bread maker

I post the results:

1. Rustic bread. Strictly according to the instructions for the bread maker. Program No. 5. Weight 750g with crust. No delay.

2. Milk bread. Strictly according to the instructions for the bread maker. Program # 1. Weight 1000g with crust. With a delay of 7 hours.

well done !!! We will continue to wait for reports, try French please, it did not always work out - I want to see what you have!
Vadim, I want to complain to you about the delivery of "Autotrading" you gave on December 30, hb it is still in Moscow and it is not known how it is stored, as far as I understand Lena Koshatnitsa did not receive the aerogrill either I can say that the parcel from Ozone (Internet magician) sent on December 29 I have on January 6th.Maybe the managers should have asked how this company works (I no longer want to use it) - they wanted it as soon as possible. and now I'm worried about hp - I would have known better if you had it until 10, I would at least not worry about storage conditions. electronics though.

PS I got it in Rostov, got through.

Lena, call yours.
Nevushka
Quote: 14anna08

Vadim, I want to complain to you about the delivery of "Autotrading" you gave on December 30, hb it is still in Moscow and it is not known how it is stored, as far as I understand Lena Koshatnitsa did not receive the aerogrill either I can say that the parcel from Ozone (Internet magician) sent on December 29 I have on January 6th. Maybe the managers should have asked how this company works (I no longer want to use it) - they wanted it as soon as possible. and now I'm worried about hp - I would have known better if you had it until 10, I would at least not worry about storage conditions. electronics though.
PS I got it in Rostov, got through.
Lena, call yours.
I try to use TK PEC, they have fewer problems than auto trading, but it is more convenient for the brand to take it to auto trading. In terms of storage, nothing will happen to the stove, but after the post of Russia (the delivery of which was more expensive), one could doubt the safety, because there the items are harshly thrown. TCs treat cargo much more gently. And the days of work on the Autotrading website in different cities on holidays are scheduled. There are also people who want to rest.
14anna08
Nevushka TK delivering within 12 days is not normal. to Rostov for a day to carry and they worked and on the 4th, if desired, it was possible to deliver and the schedule they buried on December 9 about work for the holidays, etc.
I know how truckers and large companies work in standby mode.

Then I ask you to remove my messages off topic.
Kisena
Quote: SVP

All HIGHLY simply.
1. Pressing the "MANUAL setting" button once. The display will show the 16th mode (manual).

Vadim, apparently this button does not work for me, because I pressed it and kept it pressed - no signs of life! Maybe I'm doing something wrong again?
MariV
Quote: 14anna08

Nevushka TK delivering within 12 days is not normal. to Rostov for a day to drive and they worked, and on the 4th, if desired, it was possible to deliver and the schedule they buried on December 9 about work for the holidays, etc.
I know how truckers and large companies work in standby mode.

Then I ask you to remove my messages off topic.
Do not worry!
Your HP will come, where will it go? Get some rest.
MariV
For Kisena.
Once again - plugged into the network - 1 program should pop up on the display.
Look at the "manual program" button - aim and quickly press and release it. The number 16 should jump out - this is the number of the manual program. Then they resolutely pressed the "manual" button again and held for 2-3 seconds - the modes - 1 - begin to be displayed - the first is preheating. We put what you need with triangles.
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