Ksew
After a long search, I bought cotton mittens for HP, they do not stick to the heating element - cool silicone ones are sold in Ikea, insanely comfortable and easy to wash (there are no problems with washing)

I just can't quote the right phrase here!
kubanochka
Quote: Elenara

More about the stove, it also sounded today after 6 minutes of work, but nothing happened. What was that?

What program was the stove working on at that moment? If it's just like an oven, then this is the moment when the set temperature is reached. I experimented on purpose. It does not show degrees, but how do you know if the oven is warmed up or not? She squeaks about it.

I also baked with sourdough in it, and with yeast. The result is excellent!
I buy live yeast in a store at the nearest bakery.
lega
Quote: Elenara

Thank you very much again. That is, living yeast in briquettes is the size of curd cheese? I remember they always were before, but now they haven’t met, probably it was just unnecessary.

You are thinking correctly, live yeast is ordinary compressed yeast. Need to look in stores in refrigerators. Usually next to butter - margarine or not far from cheese. This is different in different stores, the display of goods occurs. In large Super-Hypermarkets, as a rule, it is closer to margarine.
Elenara
Knbanochka, Lga, Ksew, thank you! About beeping - great, if so, I will check it experimentally. It is strange that this is not in the booklet. In general, the translation is, of course, clumsy.
I'll look at the yeast, and how long is their shelf life?
And as for the jam, it's a pity, I want to make raspberries and apricots, but I don't want to risk my stove.
As for the silicone mittens, do they really touch the hot tube with them and they won't weld?
Will they not flow and stink? I'm going to Ikea the other day, please write, Ksew how do you get out of them? Ksew, potatoes with butter, cheese, what program did you do and how long?
sazalexter
Elenara Yeast can be safely stored for 2 weeks in the refrigerator without freezing, with freezing much longer. Silicone ones do not weld, but those that I came across very quickly let the heat from the bucket pass through, so they got resigned.
Elenara
Tell me, more, please, about a baking sheet or a universal oven dish, well, so that potatoes and a pie and vegetables. It seems to me a rectangular metal shape with high sides. Which is the best (manufacturer) and do you need a cover? What else from the dishes is convenient and functional in this stove. Today I will buy, waiting for your tips!
Cool forum, and our party is so cheerful. Thanks to all))
Elenara
I bought a ceramic oval pan of country kitschen a few days ago, beautiful, but it didn't fit on the wire rack with a lid, so I put it on a baking sheet, which I put right on the bottom. Interestingly, this is possible for TB)))
sazalexter
Elenara I would not bet on the bottom. Take care of the baking sheet, it is covered with Teflon and you will not find a similar one. I use a large ceramic mold from IKEA. Aluminum molds with teflon coating, one glass. We have been going to the store with a paper meter for a long time.
Elenara
Sazalextert, noticed scratches on the dirt, oh, did not think to lay a rug. If only this is the case, then you can protect it, or you can put a saucepan without a lid, but I wanted to put it out.
I also walked with a centimeter, now I bought a tape measure, lives in a bag)))
And what are you doing in a glass form?
sazalexter
Elenara In glass, everything is as usual, as an additional form, potatoes, meat, chicken, casserole, etc. etc.
Elenara
My catch today!
Elenara
Oh, for some reason the photo was not exhibited (
sazalexter
Ksew
Quote: Elenara

Tell me, more, please, about a baking sheet or a universal oven dish, well, so that potatoes and a pie and vegetables. It seems to me a rectangular metal shape with high sides.
They also took them in Ikea, there are a lot of different ones)))) They even have different forms for breads)) Be sure to take a look!)))
And as for potatoes with cheese, the potatoes were boiled in their uniforms, cut them, laid them, left the butter on top, rubbed the cheese, and on the penultimate shelf on top at 220 for 15 minutes, I just needed it to turn red on top, and you can also sprinkle brilliant green, but this is after you take it out of the oven)))
As for the peaks at the time of warming-up, it is in the instructions, and it is written, after five minutes of work, how it will warm up, it will squeak))))))
Elenara
URL = https: //Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/r-image/r.1/fp/5b934ef3c16341959ccf81178ab5d277]Mini oven-bread maker DeLonghi EOB 2071
As always, thanks to sazalexter and ksew!
So, the shape is round (it stands on the stove, tefal), there is a slashed square in it, it is hard to see it and, the shape is rectangular, which miraculously fit right into the grooves !! But its edges are not straight like those of the lattice, but slightly arched, so it sits not perfectly, like the lattice, but firmly, you can push the lattice under it. Even in the store I measured it, I was afraid it would not fit, but my son said take it, if it doesn’t fit, they say he’ll drive it over. She put a piece of paper from her at the stove for a photo, maybe someone wants it too)) 26cm x 19cm is squeezed right on the side
(These are her internal dimensions)
And in the nearest shopping center I saw the miracle of mittens, where there are construction gloves, cotton on wadding, really black 'and what, stylish))) acrylic paints can transform them) in the photo they are on the stove.
And now the bread is ripe))
Elenara
Something calm in our Temka.
I have such a question for those in the know, how can you grease a loaf instead of the yolk.
And one more question: how do you store bread. Mine dried up under the towel the next day.
Ksew
And we do not store it in any way, we eat it right there!))))))))) I know that hot bread is harmful, but it is impossible to refuse! About what to smear, tut stole- 🔗
sazalexter
Ksew
Oh, I'm sorry, I won't be big))))
Ksew
Here I have such a question, do all the ovens in the approach mode have bread several times (one or two) kneading it for some reason? He will inflate the current, and she just mixes it up! And again, peace.
lega
Quote: Ksew

Here I have such a question, do all the ovens in the approach mode have bread several times (one or two) kneading it for some reason? He will inflate the current, and she just mixes it up! And again, peace.

She does it very rightly. The dumbbell test is called. If you haven’t had a bread maker before, and it looks like you are completely new to working with dough, then it will be very useful to study the theory. Bread Kneading and Baking Basics
Ksew
True, this is the first time I have a stove, but I got used to the dough, you just look at the bun, it’s already inflated and then bam and all over again, it’s just that after that it doesn’t rise as much as it did before, so I asked. Thank you very much,: girl_romashka: calmed down, I really thought that something was wrong)))
kubanochka
Mini oven-bread maker DeLonghi EOB 2071

Baked today in our stove of land mines.
Every time I like our stove more and more!
Thank you, sazalexter, your opinion influenced my choice of stove. There is no limit to my gratitude!
Elenara
Kubanochka, how delicious!
Sazalexter, how do you make a dough, add all the water at once? And how much flour?
sazalexter
Elenara Flour 120g whole grain, water 130ml, yeast, sugar, SE1 mode: STERE, then SE11: RISE ON YEAST 2h, then add the rest to the dough and on AU8 mode: RYE BREAD. Peasant bread https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2972.0 only water in my recipe is 330ml.
sazalexter
kubanochka What's the beautiful! And probably delicious
Elenara
Sazalexter, this is your proportions for a 750-gram loaf. That is, 330 ml of water, and the rest of the numbers, which are without brackets?
sazalexter
Elenara the rest is prescription without brackets. From myself I only add dry malt 0.5 tbsp. l.
ceja
Will a whole chicken fit in it? Can I bake in two levels?
sazalexter
ceja There is no chicken, no chickens, the dimensions of the chamber were given higher along the branch, you can bake in two levels.
vkunya
Glad for your successes. And I was not lucky. They brought this miracle to me today, I plugged it in, on / off ..... and in response, silence.We checked everything, the sockets are working, the voltage is normal, and the oven does not work in any way, no button responds ...
sazalexter
vkunya Bad of course, contact the seller for an examination / repair / replacement.
Feechka_
Yesterday I saw this model - I fell in love! But I think until I find out the opinions of the members of the forum on her account I will not buy it in the evening I studied this thread and today became the owner of this device) It remains to bring it and figure it out de facto. Thanks everyone! This purchase might not have happened without you!
sazalexter
Feechka Congratulations! I hope you will make friends with her
Feechka_
Thank you! And I hope And with what recipe do you recommend to start? Before that, I only kneaded with my hands - I was mastering the book by Bertine
sazalexter
Feechka_ Simple bread Loaf from the times of stagnation https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1016.0 Peasant look above, Darnitsky from the fugasca.
Feechka_
Thank you!!!
vkunya
And I returned the money safely for her. What surprised me, they returned without question, and I was preparing for war :-)
Now come to the bathhouse this MIRACLE oven ...
zaharich
Quote: Alicia

I may surprise you .. but we have it ON PLANET EARTH! Country of residence - Russia! City of residence-Moscow! That is not some other world!
We are what we eat!
P.S. by profession I belong to doctors! And I know a lot about the harmfulness and usefulness for human organisms!
I also belong to this galaxy, but as soon as I started talking about the dangers of GMOs and pressed yeast, "baking", since the recipe for their manufacture is simply shocking, I was closed in the next branch. I posted several videos on YouTube on how to overcome all our WANT and there, in particular, I mentioned the dangers of "traditional" caffeinated tea, which the English Tea Company was intensively promoting on the market (by the way, they say that all the production and sale of drugs on our planet is controlled by the English Royal Court). I gave an example and recommended to return to our Russian Traditional tea - fireweed or Ivan-tea. It is also called Koporsky.
Actually, ANY technique that has radiation is harmful ... But how does it, an infection, help us at home! ...
zaharich
Quote: sazalexter

Facts please, so far I've only seen rubbish from a worldwide dump called the Internet. Medical portals are also open, and this topic would be discussed, believe me. Moreover, this cannot be hidden from the meticulous students and graduate students of medical universities. This is what kind of work you can write, just a sensation

Hmm. You know that according to the rules of NLP, you have to hide the truth wisely. To do this, it is enough to tell something about REAL events or facts, but not completely and present it in the form of phantosmagoria, so we get what we have now.
For example, we all know about the dollar pyramid, but it is precisely those who are at the very beginning that we are not allowed to liquidate it ...
And regarding the "water" engine, it appeared in the Polytechnic Museum, I don't remember the date exactly, at the exhibition of youth handicrafts, we exhibited the determinant of skin impedance, and in the next hall, made of GLASS and PLASTIC, this engine was exhibited as WORKING on water model. But for some unknown reason, after 1.5 days it was removed ...
There are too many of us on the planet, little people, so there is a hidden struggle to reduce the population ...
zaharich
Quote: Kolich

if I understand correctly, if I don't need an oven, is it better to look towards the bread makers from Panas or Zozirusha?
I am also concerned about buying HP. I was inclined towards programmable stoves, such as Kenwood 450, brand 3801, and what else can you advise me specifically from Panas and Zozirus. And, if possible, with links
sazalexter
zaharich Panasonic SD-2501
zaharich
Thank you. Yes, but I wanted a programmable ...
In general, it will be difficult for me to choose HP.Almost everyone has a dough knife stuck in a loaf, glands of extremely poor quality, due to which the buckets flow, the bumpiness of the buckets themselves due to their poor fastening only adds a load on this unit. In addition, the viewing windows are said to float. HP with a large loaf - 2 scoops, they do not like "small" ones, many require a separate SOUND ISOLATED room, the programmed HP in a very limited number ... with a program and rye bread ...
In a word, I'm at a loss.
sazalexter
zaharich Everything is clearly confused in your head. At Panasonic, the oil seal does not fly, it lasts 3-4 years or more, the scapula does not get stuck. Panasonic's creak, isolated cases, will not be typed even a dozen. The rest of the HPs have a bucket life, as luck would have it. DeLonghi HP no longer produces, except for DeLonghi EOB 2071.
zaharich
But Panas is not programmable? Like...
sazalexter
zaharich Yes and no need, all this pampering ... You can generally "- Is it possible to play on one string?
- You can play without strings. - The violinist answered slyly ... "
(C) knead in a food processor and bake in the oven
zaharich
Yes, I do just that, I'm tired, tired, and here, my left hand, I cut it with a grinder, 7 stitches ...
So while I'm better off with an AUTOMATIC ... programmable ... it's not always the same to walk with seams ...
Of course, I liked the delongues with the stove, but the stove is too small for my family ...
I would have something programmable ... but more reliable. Here, for example, I took an airfryer and I'm not overjoyed, in Moscow I installed a built-in Boshevsky oven, an electric, also amazing, all functions with canvection and a grill, but there is no HB, neither there nor here ... but ..... I really want to. ...
Kolodkina
Tell me, can you put your sourdough in this oven, say at 28 degrees, so that it suits me. It's just very cool in the apartment and I just don't know where to put my sourdough. I must say right away that my oven is old and, as some did, they just turned on the light bulb in the oven and the leaven came up, I won't succeed with my oven.
And, one more question, if the dough did not fit enough, then you can turn on the SE11 program once again: RAISING ON YEAST 2h. I want to bake only leavened bread without yeast.

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