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Bear
Quote: yuryd

For example, French at 400 is 2 hours 30 minutes. At 401, 3 hours 30 minutes,
in 400 French 3h 20 min for 750g
3h 18 min for 500g
just looked, there is an error in the table.
yuryd
Quote: Bear

in 400 French 3h 20 min for 750g
3h 18 min for 500g
just looked, there is an error in the table.

These are the times. So I downloaded the instruction with errors ...

Well, then the difference between 400 and 401 is only in one program and the size of the bucket. The agony of choice gets more complicated. Knowing which one is more reliable.

On the video it seemed that the 401 had a plastic blade, could this be?
yara
Quote: yuryd

Well, then the difference between 400 and 401 is only in one program and the size of the bucket. The agony of choice gets more complicated. Knowing which one is more reliable.
You can take 400 safely, a normal bread maker
yuryd
I'd rather have a bigger one Now, if 401 is just as normal, just bigger, they would take it, but if it is much worse ...
yara
Quote: yuryd

I'd rather have a bigger one Now, if 401 is just as normal, just bigger, they would take it, but if it is much worse ...
Here in the subject there are a lot of 401 owners, besides your fellow countrymen, ask them individually. And 750 grams will not be enough for you, right?
And for someone to have both 400 and 401 at the same time, it is unlikely ...
yuryd
Quote: yara

And 750 grams will not be enough for you, right?

I somehow have a bad idea of ​​the size of this bread for 750 grams, a lot or a little. But here I looked at the bucket in the store, it seemed too small, and here many still write that the dough crawls out and rests on the lid, so I thought about it.
yara
Quote: yuryd

I somehow have a bad idea of ​​the size of this bread for 750 grams, a lot or a little. But here I looked at the bucket in the store, it seemed too small, and here many still write that the dough crawls out and rests on the lid, so I thought about it.
What kind of bread do you take in the store? Weigh and determine whether it is a lot or a little (if you don't have scales, but you have to buy, without them it will be difficult to bake bread according to recipes).
And so that the dough does not climb out, make a bookmark a little less than 750 grams. Here there is somewhere a topic about the ratio of the weight of flour to ready-made bread, I wrote to myself:
flour 300 gr. - ready-made bread 450 gr.
350 525
400 600
450 675
500 750
yuryd
Yara, and you can tell me exactly the total running time of each program in 400 models. Because according to the instructions that I downloaded the main mode 2:20, French 2:29, diet 2:44, etc. And in the instructions for 401, all these programs are almost an hour longer. Is it an error or 400 everything is baked at accelerated modes. Then 401 is much closer to Panasonic, which is considered by many to be the standard.
yara
Quote: yuryd

Yara, and you can tell me exactly the total running time of each program in 400 models.
Yes I can
Basic 750 gr. - 2.50; 500 gr. - 2.48
French 3.20 3.18
dietary 3.30 3.28
fast 1.58 1.55
sweet 2.53 2.51
View Scarlett Bread Maker instructions here:
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yuryd
Thanks for the help. In the instructions that I downloaded (by the way, on this site), everything is about half an hour shorter.
yara
Quote: yuryd

Thanks for the help. In the instructions that I downloaded (by the way, on this site), everything is about half an hour shorter.
Exactly! But this is not so !!!!! There is an error in the table !!!!! What I wrote is correct!
yuryd
Dear, congratulations, our family has started a bread maker. After a detailed examination of both applicants in the store alive, the choice fell on a more spacious one. Scarlett sc-401 settled in the house. Now I ask for advice on which proven bread to bake first, so that there is no coma and disappointment from the purchase.
SanechkaA
yuryd https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=90414.0 practice on the simplest white bread, it always turns out great, or take a look https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&board=499.0 this is a section of breads for the first time, maybe there is something that will look good
yuryd
Help me figure out the recipes from the instructions - how is 2 cups? Full under the knife, up to the last mark or up to 1 cup (slightly above the middle of the glass)?
SanechkaA
under the knife, but I won't say for sure, I did not use recipes from the book and I measure flour only with scales, I need to look behind the bun and everything will be here's another very useful section https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=7271.0
yuryd
And a question about yeast. There are only Saf-Levure and others, which must first be diluted in warm water. Do you need to breed them according to the instructions or throw them in flour, as in the recipe?
IRR
Quote: yuryd

And a question about yeast. There are only Saf-Levure and others, which must first be diluted in warm water. Do you need to breed them according to the instructions or throw them in flour, as in the recipe?

dilute, take liquid from the total amount of the recipe
Omela
Quote: yuryd

And a question about yeast. There is only Saf-Levure
For HP it is better to use Saf-moment.
yuryd
I have not found them yet in the nearest stores. Tomorrow we'll go to the supermarket, maybe there will be, there is definitely malt. By the way, what else do you need to buy for a successful bakery?
Omela, you have a lot of good recipes, which one would you recommend for your first bread?
Omela
Quote: yuryd

there is definitely malt.
Nuuu, malt is not for everybody.

Quote: yuryd

By the way, what else do you need to buy for a successful bakery?
I would advise you to buy electronic scales for a start. Now there are not expensive models. Ingredients: milk powder, caraway seeds, coriander (for rye bread), different flour (whole grain, rye, corn).

Quote: yuryd

Omela, you have a lot of good recipes, which one would you recommend for your first bread?
yuryd , thank you, advising is a thankless job, everyone has different tastes !! Look at my profile.

Many start with of this of bread.

Here THIS plain bread.

I myself bake now this technology.

Congratulations on your purchase and Good luck!
yuryd
Thank you! And we have had scales in our kitchen for a long time, and they are quite accurate - I checked them with Soviet pennies. But they won't help me figure out the recipes from the instructions. flour is indicated in cups. And I can’t cut a cup, it’s a measuring cup to the brim, up to the last mark of 300 ml. or up to the 1 cup mark (just above half a glass). We will bake the first bread tomorrow.
Omela
Good luck!
Za-za
Quote: yuryd

Thank you! And we have had scales in our kitchen for a long time, and they are quite accurate - I checked them with Soviet pennies. But they won't help me figure out the recipes from the instructions. flour is indicated in cups. And I can’t cut a cup, it’s a measuring cup to the brim, up to the last mark of 300 ml. or up to the 1 cup mark (just above half a glass). We will bake the first bread tomorrow.
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Good afternoon ! I have a 1525 stove model. I baked not so long ago, I wanted to say about the instructions. There are a lot of errors in it, the proportions are not observed, take the recipes better from this site, the girls hang everything up to grams and then you will definitely be mistaken. And add water at the very last moment so that the bun is good.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=4459.0 I got the perfect bread for the first time here according to this recipe.
yara
Quote: yuryd

a cup is a measuring cup to the brim
Omela
Quote: yuryd

But they won't help me with the recipes from the instructions.
About the recipes from the instructions have already been repeatedly written that they are with errors. Take proven recipes from the site.
yuryd
So, the first bread is baked. It was Milky for Scarlet 400 from Mistletoe, for which many thanks to her. The recipe was chosen (no offense to the author) as one of the simplest and most economical products that came across in terms of consumption. Since there was a serious concern that a bunch of products would have to be sent to the basket. Not the last argument that the recipe was served specifically for Scarlet, albeit 400 (I have 401).
I did everything strictly according to the recipe. The first puncture - I forgot to set the weight (I had a maximum of 1000 g, I needed 750 g). After five minutes of mixing, the stove stopped for rest and I turned it off. I started the mode first with the desired weight. After the next five minutes of mixing, it turned out like this:
Scarlett Bread Maker
The shape of the kolobok seemed to be nothing (in my amateurish opinion), but it alerted that he was very sticky to his hands, added at his own peril and risk almost 3 more tablespoons of table flour.It was a little sticky anyway, but I didn't dare add more. After kneading, it turned out like this:
Scarlett Bread Maker
After the readiness signal, the family saw the following picture:
Scarlett Bread Maker
The spatula remained in the bucket:
Scarlett Bread Maker
And the bread turned out like this:
Scarlett Bread Maker
Scarlett Bread Maker
Unfortunately, it was not removed from the section, but everything is fine there.
The bread turned out good, from the comments only the side and bottom crust seemed thick and the smell of yeast is felt in the bread. Most likely I did not count 8 grams correctly. I did it on the scales. And they are not sensitive enough for such norms, so it turned out to be too much. And maybe the quality of the yeast itself is not very good. Release date: 20.09.
Omela
yuryd , with the initiative you! Good bread turned out.
For the future: In this topic, general questions about the bread maker are usually discussed, and the bread itself should be brought into the relevant topic.

Quote: yuryd

and the smell of yeast is felt in the bread. Most likely I did not count 8 grams correctly.
Have you used fresh yeast? Did you cut the bread cold? Usually, when using fresh yeast in hot bread, yes, there is a yeast odor. After complete cooling, it disappears. This does not happen with dry yeast.
yuryd
We cut it slightly lukewarm, but now the bread is already cold, and the smell of yeast is clearly audible. Pressed yeast. IMHO the matter may not be so much in their quantity as in quality. Or maybe, on the contrary, they are too active and need less of them :-)
Omela
Of course it depends on the yeast and its quality, over time, get used to it and find the yeast that suits you.
yuryd
Forum users, is it really not a single recipe from the instructions that deserves attention? I would like to please the kids with some sweet roll, pie. Can you tell me the recipe, I dug and dug the site and, apart from the "Butter Pie" for Brand 3801 in the "Sweet" mode from MariV, did not find it.

PySy: The instructions contain "Sweet bread", but there are these mysterious cups, about which I still did not understand which of the three options should be counted in one cup: to the brim, to the 300 ml mark. or up to 1 cup mark.
yara
Quote: yuryd

/// there are these mysterious cups, about which I still did not understand, which of the three options should be counted in one cup: to the brim, to the 300 ml mark. or up to 1 cup mark.
I already answered you, see above, here is the answer
Quote: yara

I repeat: YES, to the brim.

Quote: yuryd

Forum users, is it really not a single recipe from the instructions that deserves attention? I would like to please the kids with some sweet roll, pie. Can you tell me the recipe, I dug and dug the site and, apart from the "Butter Pie" for Brand 3801 in the "Sweet" mode from MariV, did not find it.
Can't you find anything on our site? Here are recipes for every taste !!!!!!
yuryd
Yara, poke my nose into some sweet recipe so that you can cook on the automatic program, without dancing, switching from program to program.
Omela
Tyts.

In general, when searching, a million gives out: Choose.
yuryd
Quote: yara

I have already answered you, see above, here is the answer I will repeat again: YES, to the brim.
Still, this option confuses me a little. In the recipe for Mystery 1202 "Taste of Childhood" from Larsen, it is emphasized that the glass is to the brim! And if you open our instructions in the English-language page, cups are indicated in the recipes where we have cups. The question is why it was so confusing for the English-speaking users of the device and put a graduation on the glass in a cup, where one cup corresponds to a far from full cup.
yuryd
It even seems to me that such a negative attitude towards "native" recipes is due to the fact that someone could not correctly understand the measure.
Omela
yuryd , almost everyone on our forum bakes by gram, not by measure. And the cups have all been converted to weight long ago. So it turns out more conveniently and of better quality. You can do without scales and cups at all, pour it on the eye, observing the liquid / flour balance.
yara
Quote: yuryd

Still, this option confuses me a little. In the recipe for Mystery 1202 "Taste of Childhood" from Larsen, it is emphasized that the glass is to the brim!
Please note that glasses for different HP have different volumes!
Quote: yuryd

Yara, poke my nose into some sweet recipe so that you can cook on the automatic program, without dancing, switching from program to program.
Can I give you recipes for sweet cakes? You can't imagine sweeter and tastier. Now I will throw off a few recipes.
Found my old post, I will quote
Quote: yara

Girls and variety, check out these cakes (paski) adapted for bread makers:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=493.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1873.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3502.0.html
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8316.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=30848.0
yuryd
Quote: Omela

yuryd , almost everyone on our forum bakes by gram, not by measure. And the cups have all been converted to weight long ago. So it turns out more conveniently and of better quality. You can do without scales and cups at all, pour it on the eye, observing the liquid / flour balance.
In one of the recipes you directed me to, "Portuguese sweet bread" by Elena Bo, flour is indicated in 2 cups. I can see I still figure it out and figure it out ...
yara
Quote: yuryd

.... flour is indicated in cups 2 pieces It can be seen to me to understand and understand ...
To understand the cups, look also here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=161168.0
Omela
Quote: yuryd

flour is indicated in cups 2 pieces I can see I still figure out and figure it out ...
Go to the link that yara I gave it to you. Assume that 1 cup 250 ml = 150 g flour. Now, knowing the volume of the cup in the recipe, you can calculate the weight in grams.
olga74600
Hello everybody! Yesterday they gave me a scarlet 1525, but I can't get bread, already a house full of poor quality bread, but I still want a good result. Confused already. I already tried the main one from the book for 750 grams, for 500 grams, French, did everything exactly according to the recipe as in the book, plus following all the advice of experienced bakers and nothing. I read this topic, and finally got confused. What to do? I chose a couple of recipes here, but I don’t understand if it will fit my stove? One would at least have turned out then would have driven faster. I would like to try different breads, I love it very much with cheese, but I will never master the simplest one. HELP, stick the recipe at me on my x / n, so that from the very first time everything works out !!!!
yara
Quote: olga74600

Hello everybody! Yesterday they gave me a scarlet 1525, but I can't get bread, already a house full of poor quality bread, but I still want a good result. Confused already. ...... HELP, stick a recipe at me on my x / n, so that from the very first time everything works out !!!!
I understand when the bread did not work out once, but when nothing works at all, it’s already strange .... There are no technological secrets here, just follow the recipe and follow the kolobok rule. Believe me, the bread recipe is absolutely independent of the brand of the bread machine.
But just in case, I give you an "ambulance phone"
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=33.0
olga74600
thanks for the answer. Little by little I start to get into this topic, I thought I bought it - I fell asleep - I am free, but no. But the main thing is to figure it out, today it turned out nothing, I added flour, as I was kneading, I thought that it was a very steep bun, but as I began to bake I realized that literally a spoonful of flour was not enough for him ... the roof sat down quite a bit, but on the whole it was already a semblance of bread. One thing I didn't like is that it is crumbling. How to make sure it doesn't crumble? Today I'll lay it down again in the evening in order to make sure that my hands are still from there, I'll try the recipe from this site. How to deal with bread I want to bake a delicious roll here. Can someone tell me the recipe?
Bear
Quote: olga74600

How to make sure it doesn't crumble?
You lay out your bread layout specifically in grams and you will see where the problem is with the roof and with crumbling bread. Flour can be the cause of crumbling (I once ran into completely creepy flour, from which the bread was gray-pale in color and with an iron crust), but this is rare and with bad flour you can sometimes be contrived.
How much liquid, how much oil?
olga74600
250 g water
1 st. l. oils
1.5 tbsp. tablespoons of milk powder
1h l. salt
450 gr. flour
1 st. spoonful of sugar
1.5s. spoons of yeast
Falinska
olga74600. Try putting 1 teaspoon of vinegar or ascorbic acid on the tip of a knife to improve the flour. Or it might be best to try making a dough with kefir. On Sunday, I baked bread almost identical to your recipe (although the flour was only 2nd grade, so that it was more beautiful to add seeded rye) with the addition of vinegar, a very good bread was obtained and practically without crumbs.
Bear
Quote: olga74600

250 g water
1 st. l. oils
1.5 tbsp. tablespoons of milk powder
1h l. salt
450 gr. flour
1 st. spoonful of sugar
1.5s. spoons of yeast

Olga, what kind of yeast do you have? Dry? If dry, then 1.5 s. l this is a lot, I put 1.25 tsp of all dry yeast on 450 g of flour, if the yeast is only open, or 1.5 tsp.l if lying in the refrigerator, and 2, tsp for baking. If fresh, then I do not know how many in 1.5 s. l gram, but the norm is for 100 g of flour, 2 g of fresh yeast. That is, for 450 g of flour, you should put 9-10 g of fresh yeast.
Just offhand the impression is that there is little liquid + you additionally have powdered milk 1.5 tbsp. l and there is no additional liquid on it, that is, for 450 g of flour, usually 260-280 ml of liquid usually goes and plus 1.5 tbsp. l of oil (this is another 22-25 ml). And the collapse of the roof may not be from an excess of liquid, but from an excess of yeast.
And if globally .. my own bread is cut like a sausage, if cut with a sharp knife, just not a single crumb of 2-3 days at least. For which I love him
olga74600
I was sealed there, I put a teaspoon not in the dining room. I just pulled out a seemingly perfect bread, I don’t know how to cut it, I haven’t tried it yet, I made it according to the recipe taken here, on this site, the author promised that there would be no crumbs, only there was 400 g of flour per 260 ml. l. water, so this is not enough, I added 5 more spoons during the kneading process, probably. In general, the mood has improved, I want to experience something more globally. Can someone tell me a bun. And another question I have a spatula in a bread, and in unsuccessful ones it remained in a bucket, how to pull it out correctly so that it would be beautiful ...
yara
Quote: olga74600

Can someone tell me a bun. And another question I have a spatula in a bread, and in unsuccessful ones it remained in a bucket, how to pull it out correctly so that it would be beautiful ...
What kind of bun do you want? Sweet? Then you just had to go back to the page:
Quote: yuryd

... poke my nose into some sweet recipe so that you can cook on the automatic program, without dancing, switching from program to program.
Quote: Omela

Tyts.
In general, when searching, a million gives out: Choose.
And there are recipes for sweet cakes
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=493.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1873.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3502.0.html
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8316.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=30848.0
And a spatula of bread can be easily removed with an ordinary pencil.

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