Delonghi 125 or Panasonic 255?

Now I will wait for Panasonic's receipt. All my doubts were safely dispelled))

I see - you are from Ukraine, I want to assure you that the 255th will arrive soon, in Kiev for sure, it means that you will have, and if not, you can order from Kiev

Celestine
And we have already tried different ones with raisins and kulich and egg and many others, but French with its crispy crust is just a fairy tale!

Also hesitated for a long time between DeLongy and Panasonic ... I will wait for Panasonic's receipt.

Yes, in this stove - the letters "Panasonic" are the most important thing!

Celestine
And we have already tried different ones with raisins and kulich and egg and many others, but French with its crispy crust is just a fairy tale!

I agree if also with lukommm
You are now obliged to try a loaf of stagnation times, just eat slowly, otherwise you will swallow your tongue

People! I just saw on my signature: my stove today is exactly one year! , or rather, she works so much time at my house
Mom, dear, but like yesterday ... and where it flies so quickly ... time ...

Well, the possession of good HP and the habit of getting to the bottom made it possible to examine and study many sides of the Delongy 125 stove. I also want to disassemble and look inside, but so far the lack of time and the necessary tool holds back.


Alas, almost any white plastic (except fluoroplastic) turns yellow over time. The forum is full of complaints about the quickly yellowing Panasonic. This is because Panasonic is, alas, Chinese stamping. Once upon a time, Panasonic ovens were developed by Japanese engineers after the success of the Zozhirushi bread machine. But almost thirty years have passed since then, the Chinese have purchased the design, and no work is underway to radically improve it. Basically, the modernization is a little different, but the box and the addition to the "truly Japanese" oven "dough program" and recipes for "Moscow buns".

But Delongy's engineers know that white plastic turns yellow. Therefore, they paint it in "metallic". They also insert a glass window into the stove. And the glass is not just any, but heat-reflecting, tempered. The Chinese who make Panasonic from cheap plastic do not go broke on a glass - the people buy it anyway, the Panasonic letters do their job ...

The LCD display is covered with a special convex, like a lens, transparent optical window, which makes the characters large and clearly visible.

And Delongy also has a fan that cools the motor during mixing. This means that he doesn't care about any dough, the motor won't overheat, and its service life will be maximum. In addition, the fan creates a blow (slight overpressure) in the stove, which makes the flour less dusty. The same fan creates circulation after baking to prevent condensation from accumulating.

In addition, a micro-notepad with plastic pages is built into the Delongy 125 stove on the right side, in which the HP programs are recorded, and in which you can write down the numbers of your programs and their names.

The HP Delongy 125 lid can be easily removed without any tools, it (and the dispenser built into it) is easy to wash and wipe.

A thermo-reflective metal shell and hot air ducts are made inside the stove. Thermal reflection and circulation channels are also in the HP cover.

On the back wall there are stops for winding and storing the power cord. There is also a power switch on top - you do not need to pull out the stove's power plug from the outlet every time.

The stove dispenser is designed so that it is triggered by an electromagnet, which is located in the electronics compartment and pulls the dispenser pin through a small round metal plate in the lid.The design is extremely comfortable and reliable. Pours the dispenser strictly into the bucket. After pouring out, the dispenser itself becomes a ventilation duct, which can be left open or covered by simply opening the stove door for a second and closing it back. And the last - the dispenser is covered with fluoroplastic (Teflon). This means that little can stick to it.

The door of the Delongy stove has a spring-loaded stop, so you won't be able to slam the door especially. The same stop springs the dispenser so that it opens correctly and more vigorously, shaking out what may stick in it.

The design of the stove is streamlined, in the Techno style. The plastic is strong but thin to reduce weight and prevent thermal deformation of the walls, increasing the service life.
On the sides of the stove there are very comfortable hand rests for carrying.

Not to mention the fact that ALL Delongy modes can be controlled, that is, you can set individually (from 0 inclusive to maximum. Sec. Or min.) The time of each stage of kneading, proofing, baking, etc., including and temperature, choosing it from values ​​of 105, 110, 115 and 125 degrees. The Panasonic oven does not allow you to control ANY MODE, except for fixed 10-14 programs, 3 crust colors and loaf weight. Delongy has an unlimited number of programs.

And the last, if it is of decisive importance for someone, the excellent HP Delonghi 125, which is made in Italy, is much cheaper than Panasonic, which is made exclusively in China.

All this combined to allow the Italians to deliver my solid consumer 5. I have always respected people who do their work with love and conscience. I will definitely disassemble the HP to see how everything is done inside. But judging by the many thoughtful details outside, the engineers and designers have worked very, very seriously.

Alen Delonghi, how I like your speech !!! but...

... a certain fragility of the structure, some kind of toy look, more than modest menu design and suspicious case cover ...

This, I must admit, also takes place and is very annoying when choosing.

I do not argue that this machine can bake super wonderful, but the appearance is also important to me. : :) I love devices, solid both in appearance and in possibilities. Now I will wait for Panasonic's receipt. All my doubts were safely dispelled))

Zest, after six months of using "Panasonic" -255, you will be disappointed in its appearance. If you want a bread maker from this manufacturer, then buy in a metal case. They all bake equally well.

The HP Delongy 125 lid can be easily removed without any tools, it (and the dispenser built into it) is easy to wash and wipe.

The lid of the 255 Panasonic cannot be removed, but the dispenser itself can be easily removed from the lid and washed. Here the "just aluminum" coating inside the stove is not convenient. It turns yellow quickly and is not washed (in a gentle way) to the end.

Alas, almost any white plastic (except PTFE) turns yellow over time. There are a lot of complaints about the quickly yellowing Panasonic on the forum.

But engineers at Delongy know that white plastic turns yellow. Therefore, they paint it in "metallic".

And my Panasonic 253 is in a metal case. And for almost a year of work as new.

This is an insoluble dispute. Why can't you combine all the positive qualities in one unit? Everyone would buy only him.

Throw me a brick, but for 7 months I have been using my HP in the 2-3 baking mode per week. Yesterday I examined her completely. Found 2 yellowish stripes on the plastic in the lid hinge area. And what?

This dispute about "specks on plastic" reminded me of a lecture at a CWP lesson: "... it is very important to dig in before a nuclear explosion, because no burns were found on the corpses in the trenches!"

Yes, in this stove - the letters "Panasonic" are the most important thing!

Not at all happened NONE of the loud labels is not defining for me when choosing. Rather - the run-in and reliability of the model, combined with its appearance. Even if the letters "Did Opanas" were on it)

Zest, after six months of using "Panasonic" -255, you will be disappointed in its appearance.

It seems that I never said that I was in awe of Panasonic's design, I evaluate it completely objectively. I figured out for myself after reading the forum that the choice should be made between these two models, and the appearance of DeLonga, well, I really didn't like it at all)) If you choose between "toy" and "brick", then I will rather choose the latter

Well, the possession of good HP and the habit of getting to the bottom made it possible to consider and study many aspects of the Delongy 125 stove.

Alain, your technical analysis is really worthy of all admiration. Even without this control shot in the form of the last post, you have quite successfully convinced me of the undeniable advantages of DeLonga. And I went to the store in full confidence that I would leave there in an embrace with a beautiful Italian. But ... it did not work out ... The disappointment of the impeccable content of the subtle form was too great ...

If you want a bread maker from this manufacturer, then buy in a metal case. They all bake equally well.

Yana, I was just choosing between Panasonic and DeLongy)) I want a GOOD and RELIABLE stove with a decent design, so I'm trying to figure out who it is worth stopping at)) If you can advise any other model besides the above, I will be very grateful

Yana, I was just choosing between Panasonic and DeLongy)) I want a GOOD and RELIABLE stove with a decent design, so I'm trying to figure out who it is worth stopping at)) If you can advise any other model besides the above, I will be very grateful

Try to turn your gaze to Kenwood, I advised this to my friend, I'm happy with how ... All the necessary functions are there, and you can choose the design - there are many types of them ... would be available

Try to turn your gaze to Kenwood, I advised this to my friend, I'm happy with how ... All the necessary functions are there, and you can choose the design - there are many types of them ... would be available

Well, the girl had already stopped at 2 models and 2 brands, and we offer her a second round.

Let's remember "Mufusaila" in the CIS market - Hitachi bread makers. And among the older LG models, there are nice specimens.
Third circle!

members of the forum are dear, do not confuse me, I myself have already got confused)))

Try to turn your eyes to Kenwood

: Doy, I can’t and I won’t, otherwise I’ll go crazy and no one will save me Those from the Kenwoods, whom I saw on sale, somehow did not affect me

And among the older LG models, there are nice specimens.

but from this place, if possible, in more detail They also outwardly impressed me. But can they be trusted as much as Panasonic?

Zest, we now sell only four models of Panasonic bread makers. Two of them are in a metal case (SD-207, SD-253) and two in a plastic case (SD-254, SD-255). In my plastic case. When I wrote about the disappointment, I didn't mean the design, but the fact that the plastic will start to turn yellow in six months. And not only inside, which is natural and is written about this in the instructions, but outside. And although this yellowness is located behind the vent. grate and it is not particularly visible, but still unpleasant, it should not be so. The owners of bread machines in a metal case do not have such problems. They are happy with the appearance of their stoves. If someone had warned me about this earlier, I would not hesitate to buy cotton only in a metal case. After all, they bake the same way. And mine works great, but the appearance is already spoiled, although in operation for less than a year.

but from this place, if possible, in more detail. They also impressed me outwardly. But can they be trusted as much as Panasonic?

I can only say one thing, if you find a model with a "baking" function for cupcakes (because you often need to give more time to come up (rye for example) or a curl or something else), you will not go wrong

But can they be trusted as much as Panasonic?

no
and you have already chosen the best - and now look at the worst. Money allows, take Panasonic: 253 in an iron case, 255 in a plastic one. I have both. everything suits completely.

:)) Thank you all for your participation and responsiveness)) Unbelievably they helped me make the final choice))
That's it, it's time for me to bake bread, and not choose) I stop at Panasonic 255))

:)) Thank you all for your participation and responsiveness)) Unbelievably they helped me make the final choice))
That's it, it's time for me to bake bread, and not choose) I stop at Panasonic 255))

Long live the subtle-feeling esthete who won in you (when buying a bread machine) the baker dusty with flour!

well, well)) It remains to be hoped that the Russian land has not yet become scarce, and Panasonic has not translated all the bakers on it))

Just dug up and read on a French forum about Delongy. Everyone is delighted. Of course, programming - well, just overshadows everything. Everyone notes that with this stove the questions "does your stove have a program for ..." becomes simply ridiculous. What you want is what you want.
The only negative that many people notice is a loud squeak (signal). Here I agree - the squeak is definitely too loud. Although when squeaks at night, absolutely no one wakes up in our country. But when in the afternoon - everyone hears. therefore, perhaps I can say that the squeak does not bother us.
Below is a link to an amusing consumer review of the Delonghi 125S in French. In a nutshell - the stove is a fantasy, the French girl liked the fashionable original design (she considers the Panasonic design to be very problematic, not decorating the kitchen). At the end she writes - she would write more, but there is no time - I play baker.

Do not forget that we give direct links only to the pages of this site.

Here are reviews of the Delondhi 125S in Dutch. The maximum is positive. There are almost no negative comments, except for one single one - someone wanted more detailed instructions and found fault with the dispenser's work. He seems to be in the category of always dissatisfied. And what is there to find fault with? I don’t know. Maybe someone who knows the language well, explain what he wrote there, this lover of smoke breaks!

Didn't it seem to you that in the photos of both forums the stoves are somewhat different (in color) from those sold in our stores? Maybe other plastic goes to the CIS? It is just that the majority do not like it, but foreigners are delighted.

Didn't it seem to you that in the photos of both forums the stoves are somewhat different (in color) from those sold in our stores? Maybe other plastic goes to the CIS? It is just that the majority do not like it, but foreigners are delighted.

I like the color. I think it is very appropriate in relation to the "space" design. By the way, I have a microwave oven from another company. And not even Italian. And the color is very similar. Well, if you put it next to it, then the difference is noticeable just enough to see - they painted with different paints and different equipment. And in color - very close - "technometallic" or something. Obviously some kind of fashion trend.

But in "Metro" I once saw an interesting picture: SONY, Samsung, Panasonic, GVC put up for sale were painted with the same paint, with the same equipment !!! And there were both plasma and LCD ... Well, different Brands cannot paint with the same paint. Obviously ALL boxes were collected in one place. It is not clear how clearly counterfeit products were put up for sale by a respected Brand ???
Situation like:
"Tell me, Mr. Director, what does your company produce? - We produce a range of photo-audio-video equipment of leading brands ..." Maybe someone will be in large techno supermarkets the other day - pay attention and tell us.

Alen Delonghi, I noticed this for a long time. Somehow I chose a kettle for myself, began to look more closely at the models in the store, turned it over in my hands and got the impression that they were all made in one place, using the same technology, from the same parts.Although the price tags and the devices themselves say that they are made in England, Switzerland, France, etc. I decided to refuse to buy a kettle and bought a thermopot.
And recently I was in "Electronic Paradise", got into conversation with the seller. And he told me in confidence that half of the "imported" equipment that is sold there is going to the Moscow region. When I buy a product, I listen to the sellers last, but for some reason I believed it.

One of the reasons I chose the Delonghi 125S (not the main reason) is because it is made in Italy. And it was even packed in 2 boxes - the outer one is made of gray thick cardboard, and the inner one is made of high-quality multicolor. This is done in order to preserve the presentation of the packaging, too, if you buy a bread machine for a gift. But the main reason why I bought it is the complete freedom in managing modes and, therefore, an unlimited number of programs. I still experiment - there were no "punctures".
In the future, the "feeling of deep satisfaction" ((C) L. I. Brezhnev) was enhanced by the fact that the oven did not give a single malfunction, the recipes in the instructions do not lie, the mechanism has a good power reserve, which allows kneading the densest dough, which only can work, including for homemade noodles. The electronics and mechanics work flawlessly.

Frankly, there is only one drawback, it is necessary to print the instructions in Russian on the website or the company that sells prints and brings a pack of printed instructions, as it was in my case, more for now !!! (pah, pah, pah) did not notice any shortcomings.

Frankly, there is only one drawback, it is necessary to print the instructions in Russian on the website or the company that sells prints and brings a pack of printed instructions, as it was in my case, more for now !!! (pah, pah, pah) did not notice any shortcomings.

Yes, the instruction was in Italian-French-German-Dutch. But on the network (including on this site) there are instructions in English and Russian.

I want to say a HUGE THANKS to Alen Delonghi for his opuses about Delonghi 125. Initially I wanted to take 255 Panasonic, in fact, I did not consider anything else, but after learning about the capabilities of Delonghi 125, I decided to take only it and nothing else.
I prefer the technique with the maximum possibilities and I have no other
I took the last one from the window, although I think it was originally in a single copy. I have not tried the stove yet, since the gift to my wife is on NG, but it works for a start, the screen is lit, the kneader is kneading
Tell me about the package, do I have everything?
What was included.
1. Measuring glass
2. Measuring spoon
3. The kneader is removable (for some reason, one petal, only in one direction, is that so? For some reason it seemed that it should be symmetrical)
4. A bunch of papers.
5. Instructions in Russian, printed out in my store.
Is that how it should be?
Another question about the lid, it plays a little left and right, as I understand it is normal, because the lid is removable?

I want to say a HUGE THANKS to Alen Delonghi for his opuses about Delonghi 125. Initially I wanted to take 255 Panasonic, in fact, I did not consider anything else, but after learning about the capabilities of Delonghi 125, I decided to take only it and nothing else.
I prefer the technique with the maximum possibilities and I have no other
I took the last one from the window, although I think it was originally in a single copy. I have not tried the stove yet, since the gift to my wife is on NG, but it works for a start, the screen is lit, the kneader is kneading
Tell me about the package, do I have everything?
What was included.
1. Measuring glass
2. Measuring spoon
3. The kneader is removable (for some reason, one petal, only in one direction, is that so? For some reason it seemed that it should be symmetrical)
4. A bunch of papers.
5. Instructions in Russian, printed out in my store.
Is that how it should be?
Another question about the lid, it plays a little left and right, as I understand it is normal, because the lid is removable?

That's right, the kit is complete. The paddle mixer is exactly asymmetric. For its task is not to twist the bun, but to stir the dough. The lid does move slightly (by mm).The reason is indicated correctly - the cover is removable, the axle bushings have slots that allow you to open the cover at an angle of 45 degrees and, by pulling it towards you, can be easily removed. You can open the cover and, looking at the axis of the cover, remove it. Insert carefully so as not to spoil the axles by brute force applied prematurely and in the wrong direction. Congratulations on your purchase! I am sure that both you and your spouse will be 100% satisfied with the stove. I'm pretty picky about technology because of the stupid innate analytical approach to everything and everyone, but in this case, given its cost, there is nothing to complain about. You will see for yourself. The only remark - as in any bread maker, here you need to protect the non-stick layer of the bucket and spatula. But this is not difficult: the finished bread easily falls out of the mold by itself, you never have to pick it out.

Sometimes the kneader gets stuck in the bread, but ........... according to my own observation, this is when the dough is thin, and the bread fell out, and the kneader remained in place. For the price, I also agree, to overpay 80 baksyuk simply for the "loud" name, delirium of a madman, or the matter is in the "hohlyatsky" mentality.

Sometimes the kneader gets stuck in the bread, but ........... according to my own observation, this is when the dough is thin, and the bread fell out, and the kneader remained in place. For the price, I also agree, to overpay 80 baksyuk simply for the "loud" name, delirium of a madman, or the matter is in the "hohlyatsky" mentality.

My personal, own, pronounced "hohlyatsky" mentality requires looking for novelty of technical solutions, sound thoughts of designers, love for their work among engineers, maximum creative freedom provided to the user, and a reasonable price in any technique. All this is clearly present in the Delonghi 125S stove. And to the "loud" names to us ... Well ... this is ... well, in short, we with the mentality do not care what names are there ...

I am interested in this question. The main argument for purchasing Delonghi 125 is programming. Maybe I'm wrong, but on the forum I read that newer Delonghi models are released without this feature. Why, then, the manufacturer refused to improve this model?

I am interested in this question. The main argument for purchasing Delonghi 125 is programming. Maybe I'm wrong, but on the forum I read that newer Delonghi models are released without this feature. Why, then, the manufacturer refused to improve this model?

Delonghi 125S is a programmable stove. It is still being produced and is the most perfect one. Stoves "without bells and whistles" (with simple functions such as Panasonic) are also produced at the same time and are much cheaper.
What else can be improved? I can't even imagine ... All modes are programmable, everything is controlled, the lid with a window is removable, the dispenser is automatic ... Unless you connect the HP to a computer ...

Yes, in general, I’m not going to argue with you, I’m just interested in this question. They wrote about the release of a new stove and, for some reason, it was without programming.

Yes, in general, I’m not going to argue with you, I’m just interested in this question. They wrote about the release of a new stove and, for some reason, it was without programming.

I think that Delonghi is simply expanding its range of inexpensive models with new bread makers. I just looked at a large French site - the newest 755 costs 65 Euro. The 125th costs 113 Euro. By the way, your Panasonic 255 abroad costs almost the same as Delongy 125.

I'm pretty picky about technology because of my dumb innate analytical approach to everything and everyone.

Sishkom is self-critical. It is this approach that allows you to always make the best choice, not waste extra money, nerves, time and avoid learning from your own mistakes.

I think that Delonghi is simply expanding its range of inexpensive models with new bread makers. I just looked at a large French site - the newest 755 costs 65 Euro. The 125th costs 113 Euro.By the way, your Panasonic 255 abroad costs almost the same as Delongy 125.

RARITY is always more expensive

Hello brothers Ukrainians!
I bought and baked as many as 3 bread in Delongy 125. Sss terribly happy!
baked perfectly, the mixer-kneader does not remain in the bread, the dispenser opens and closes, the crust is golden brown, the round bun, in short, a complete thrill! Recommend!

Hello brothers Ukrainians!
I bought and baked as many as 3 bread in Delongy 125. Sss terribly happy!
baked perfectly, the mixer-kneader does not remain in the bread, the dispenser opens and closes, the crust is golden brown, the round bun, in short, a complete thrill! Recommend!

Hello, brothers ZHEK!
Congratulations! We are waiting for new joyful messages and recipes. And the stirrer can remain in the bread (if it sits freely on the axis), that's okay. This is easily dealt with by placing it on an axle with breadcrumb.

My Delongy, when kneading a tough dough (added flour), tapped, I wanted to hold it with my hands, does that happen to you? Is this normal?

Today I bought Delongy, thanks to this topic, of course

I will say that it is almost impossible to find this stove in Kiev, I had to buy it at MegaMax for 680 UAH-135 bucks (on order). But it really needs to be presented tomorrow, I had to overpay, in the no-shops they said that there would be no stoves until the New Year. This is how things are today

I hope I can try some bread this weekend

Thank you all for your informed opinions on each of the stoves.

On Friday I took Delonghi 125 and did not regret it, a very convenient program change function. One thing but, the recipes will have to be looked for on the forum, in the instructions for recipes - not a fountain ............

On Friday I took Delonghi 125 and did not regret it, a very convenient program change function. One thing but, the recipes will have to be looked for on the forum, in the instructions for recipes - not a fountain ............

Why are there normal recipes in the instructions. For a start - just right. The main thing is that they give a guaranteed result, which is required at the beginning. I've tried many. Well, and only then - whatever your heart desires.

Strange ... Now I was comparing recipes (ratio) from the book of Panasonic 255 and Delongy 125. So, Panasonic also write up to 1.25 kg, but the technical description says that the maximum flour is 600 g, and in Delongy 600 g. for a roll of 750g., and for 1.25kg. flour is needed as much as 760g. and vychord that Panas will not pull it. I weighed the resulting French bread according to my own recipe and in the finished form came out a loaf of 590 g. (This is 400 g. Of flour) Is this coming out? Someone circling us like suckers or what is it generally called? Although, on the other hand, my Mulasha 3000 was 1 kg maximum. and her shape is smaller than that of Panas. Maybe, based on the amount of flour, the weight of the dough is indicated in Moulinex and Panasonic, and ready-made bread in Delongy? Then this is another plus for Delongy. Business Owners, weigh the standard recipe baked bread, please. You need to make sure of your guesses.

When I bought HP and it turned out that there were simply no recipes, first of all I downloaded the instructions from Moulinex, then from Panasonic and could not understand why the weight of the bread is less than what is written? I found instructions from Delongy and was immediately surprised that more products were needed. I weigh everything that I bake. So: in Delongy, the weight of the bread ALWAYS corresponds. In the rest, less. These are my observations at this stage, that is, it should be borne in mind that I have not baked everything yet ...