soyka
Shoot yourself and not live! Answer "We contacted the official representative and this is not a marriage, but it should be so! Those that were not used - bring - we will take back!" I am waiting for an official response from the Bergner dealer.
Mona1
Quote: soyka

Shoot yourself and not live! Answer "We contacted the official representative and this is not a marriage, but it should be so! Those that were not used - bring - we will take back!" I am waiting for an official response from the Bergner dealer.
And, of course, they cannot confirm with an official written answer from Bergner. One chatter. If you are contacted by office. Bergner's representatives by phone and will confirm what marriage is, then ask them to send you their answer to the mail, so that you have something to present, it won't be words, but the answer of the office. representative, and it will also be written there that it was not Uncle Vasya who wrote it, but the sender: Bergner.
soyka
Girls! I have a question for you - none of you have water leaking from under the rim of the upper milk cooker? And are there any happy owners of the Bergner milk cooker without problems? The store agreed to take back those milk cookers that were not yet in use. I am waiting for an official letter from the dealer. If he does not admit that this is a marriage, I will do him anti-advertising
Admin

Well, what have you been suffering for so long! Bring them a pot to the store, write a statement, make them pour water into the pot, then pour it out of the pot, let them see what is flowing and where, fix the fact itself, make the sellers sign - they will refuse: write on the statement with your own hand "saw and refused to sign "
Give the pot and let the statement (on your copy) sign the acceptance of the goods. Ask for instructions for use, so that it says that water should be poured out from under the lid - if not, then marriage, return

And so on ... why torture us, who and what - turn the marriage into the store
rusja
Quote: soyka

Girls! I have a question for you - none of you have water leaking from under the rim of the upper milk cooker? And are there any happy owners of the Bergner milk cooker without problems?
I have a Bergner milk cooker for more than 3 years, nothing and nowhere flows, only from under the whistle if you do not twist it too much and tilt the milk cooker almost horizontally
soyka
Quote: Admin

Well, what have you been suffering for so long! Bring them a pot to the store, write a statement, make them pour water into the pot, then pour it out of the pot, let them see what is flowing and where, fix the fact itself, make the sellers sign - they will refuse: write on the statement with your own hand "saw and refused to sign "
Give the pot and let the statement (on your copy) sign the acceptance of the goods. Ask for instructions for use, so that it says that water should be poured out from under the lid - if not, then marriage, return

And so on ... why torture us, who and what - turn the marriage into the store
All this is correct, only this is an online store and they work when I am at work. Now I am waiting for an official answer. At least I have 14 days to get the milkmen back.
Taia
Quote: julifera

Uraaaaa, now I took my milk cooker Rondell !!!!!!

How glad I am, how glad I am that I bought a milk cooker !!!!!!!!!!


Unsubscribe please, are you disappointed in her? I also want to buy one, I don't find cheap options, there is only this company. I really need it, I brew herbs every day, I want it for these purposes.
julifera
Quote: Taia

Unsubscribe please, are you disappointed in her? I also want to buy one, I don't find cheap options, there is only this company. I really need it, I brew herbs every day, I want it for these purposes.

No, there is nothing to be disappointed in - she is perfect !!!!! And not only quality, but also convenience:
- water enters the walls up to 350-400 ml without splashing out (300 ml with my head is enough for me)
- heavy, works great on induction and glass ceramics
- the handle is super comfortable!

I was holding Teskom's milkmen in my hands - the handle turned out to be completely uncomfortable for me, so I didn't want to pay twice as much.
Rondell bought for $ 40, Tescoma then cost more than 100 bucks ...

On induction, it boils and warms up instantly!
In 20 minutes, I have 1 liter of excellent delicious cocoa ready!
It will be great for grass
Taia
Thank you very much for your reply. I'm going to take it.
I have had Rondel pots for many years, I am happy with them. I think I'll be happy with the milk cooker too.
lusya.czk.c
Quote: Doxy

Does the whistle "spit" while boiling? If so, try pouring less water. 300ml is a bit too much, I pour 100-150 into Tim. But each milk cooker has its own size between the walls ... And, in general, it's easier to check it yourself - whistle on it)))

If he doesn’t whistle, under no circumstances is a marriage.


Do you have a TimA milk cooker? suitable for glass ceramics, like everything? otherwise we have only these on sale now. I apologize, now I found Pts about Tim. good reviews, the whole topic climbed! The only thing, I didn't read whether it washes well and the bottom is rounded or not
ITU
I have a TimA milk cooker. I am very pleased with her. The bottom of the saucepan is flat - suitable for glass ceramics, and inside (where we pour the milk) round. I cook porridge in it. A little porridge settles to the bottom, but the milk cooker can be washed without problems.
I have a lot of stainless steel Gourmet cookware (and these cookware is considered to be of high quality), and I can say that Tima's steel is also of good quality.
lusya.czk.c
Thank you so much! I also have a set of dishes made of good steel with "gilded" handles, a thick bottom. Milk porridge turns out to be very good. it is good and washes at times, but it was sold to me without a medium-sized saucepan and I do not have enough of it - I want to replace it with a milk cooker, but I've read that they don't wash well and already back with their heels. The lids have now appeared - they do not even allow milk and a saucepan with a thick bottom to escape - and everything is covered in chocolate! In a new Tefal saucepan, the milk at the bottom forms a toasted film - it comes off by itself, but still it's not that ... And thanks to your answer, I'll still buy a milk cooker!
Taia
Quote: julifera


- water enters the walls up to 350-400 ml without splashing out (300 ml with my head is enough for me)

I bought this castr.
Questions arose immediately. I poured water into the wall, how long is it? it bothered me that the water would suddenly boil away, but I wouldn't know that. The instructions say to add water, but how to add it, if, for example, there is milk in a saucepan, then how to add water to the hole? You can't tilt the pan with the product ...
julifera
Quote: Taia


I bought this castr.
Questions arose immediately. I poured water into the wall, how long is it?

To be honest, I never lived to the end of the boil over
A couple of times I poured it for the most nihochu and then, at the end of cooking, I poured about half, if not more. Therefore, now I fill in less.

For an hour full fill should definitely be enough
Taia
Thank you for quick answer.
Mona1
Quote: Taia


I bought this castr.
Questions arose immediately. I poured water into the wall, how long is it? it bothered me that the water would suddenly boil away, but I wouldn't know that.
I have a different milk cooker, but I wrote how I do it. Maybe it will come in handy, there in the second paragraph.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=106386.0
I have to add up to 100-120 g, I have a small one, but you need to add more to yours.
Taia
Thank you.
I read the whole topic, all the pages. And the pan immediately weighed 1030 grams, without a lid and a whistle.
It boiled so quickly! Every evening I brewed a portion of the herb, while I was waiting for it to boil, then the water from the combination of pots began to splash out ... And then the whack - and it was already whistling strongly! and nothing flows out and does not spit anywhere
And why didn't I buy it before ...
soyka
The importing company did not recognize the marriage, and was redirected to the online store. General summary HE BUY KAISER AND BERGNER DIAMONDS - FULL SHIT! IT IS NOT FULLY USED, IT IS POSSIBLE ONLY TO DELIVER THE CONTENT WITH A SALVE, WHEN TURNING THE WATER IS PILLED INTO THE FINAL PRODUCT !!!!
Tusya Tasya
Can still bother the consumer protection society?
soyka
For this money, I don't want to spoil my nerves. The girls who bought with me do not want to bother with this, although 4 milk cookers are not unpacked at work, they can simply return, but do not want to make unnecessary gestures
In short, I cook porridge for the child in it, but I don't tilt the saucepan with the finished product, I pick up the porridge with a spoon. If I understand that I need a milk cooker for a long time, then I will select a more expensive option. Thank you all for your support!
rusja
Quote: soyka

If I understand that I need a milk cooker for a long time, then I will pick more expensive option.
Unfortunately, this is not a panacea either.
soyka
Quote: rusja

Unfortunately, this is not a panacea either.
That is, when buying a more expensive model, you can also buy this g?
rusja
Unfortunately, not one, even the most promoted brand, is not insured from poor-quality, to put it mildly, goods. Also, like cheap Bergner, it has served me, faithfully, for more than one year, with recent active use

Pakat
Quote: Pakat

Didn't find a milk cooker with us, bought a 2 liter water bath,
water is poured into the lower pan, boils, cooks in the upper:
Milk cooker - cooking in a water bath
Minus, there is no whistle, but the milk does not run away ...
Plus, each saucepan can be used separately ...
Look for such a water bath, it is more functional ...
Taia
Quote: Pakat

Look for such a water bath, it is more functional ...
And when boiling, water splashes out of the lower pan?
Pakat
No, steam is coming out of the openings between the upper and lower pan ...
Of course, if you pour it to the very top, it will probably snort, pour more than half, it does not spill out ...
plasmo4ka
Quote: Pakat

Look for such a water bath, it is more functional ...

And how long does it take for milk to boil in this structure?

In general, the principle of operation of the milk maker reminded me of sterilizing cans during canning. Therefore, any available means (cans, pots, multicooker, pressure cooker ..) can be adapted for this business. But is it worth bothering so much for 1-2 liters of milk ..
Admin
Milk in this design does not boil at all! Because in a water bath, without contact with the stove.

Read the first page of the topic, and see recipes for cooking in a milk cooker and reviews https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=482.0
Pakat
Quote: plasmo4ka

And how long does it take for milk to boil in this structure?

In general, the principle of operation of the milk maker reminded me of sterilizing cans during canning. Therefore, any available means (cans, pots, multicooker, pressure cooker ..) can be adapted for this business. But is it worth bothering so much for 1-2 liters of milk ..
Why only milk? You can cook anything on it, where you need gentle heating and a temperature not higher than a hundred degrees ...
And the milk heats up for 10-15 minutes, because you can pour hot water into the lower pan ...
plasmo4ka
Quote: Admin

Milk in this design does not boil at all! Because in a water bath, without contact with the stove.

Quote: Pakat

Why only milk? You can cook anything on it, where you need soft heating and the temperature is not higher than a hundred degrees ...
And the milk heats up for 10-15 minutes, because you can pour hot water into the lower pan ...

I think that for this you can use a suitable capacity + multi-cooker pressure cooker with the Multi-cook mode

(I'm myself - a lover of all sorts of devices - I'm trying to convince that a milk maker is not the most necessary thing in my kitchen)
set
Quote: Pakat

Look for such a water bath, it is more functional ...
I also think that this design is the most ideal. You can always see how much water is in the saucepan, and whether you need to add it, and it is more convenient to put it in the refrigerator. Only here I have not seen such. All that can be found is a double boiler (one pan is whole, and the top one is with holes).
Pakat
Sveta, they are also in Ukraine ...
Type in the search engine - Two-tier saucepan steamer Ukraine and wakes up tabe Happiness ...
set
Pakat, thanks, It turns out I just don't call her that
3do4ki
I bought a Kelly milk cooker just 2 weeks ago for 380 rubles. at a wholesale price. In stores it is over 600 something.
Superb!
helgoncha
Maybe I'm not looking that way, but Yandex, when searching for a milk cooker with a lid, gives out only 8 sentences: either Bekker or TimA. What's better? I have a gas stove, but the surface is glass-ceramic.
3do4ki
Quote: helgoncha

Maybe I'm not looking that way, but Yandex, when searching for a milk cooker with a lid, gives out only 8 sentences: either Bekker or TimA. What's better? I have a gas stove, but the surface is glass-ceramic.
In your case, it doesn't matter which surface at all.
I have a Kelly milk cooker under the same conditions.
I misused it a couple of times and it darkened at the bottom.
helgoncha
Also explain to me, ignorant.
I have an idea that I will use a milk cooker in order to boil milk and cook a small amount of porridge for the child.
Why is it better to do this in a milk cooker than in a saucepan?
Milk won't run away?
Whistle whistle, when will the water drip? then it is necessary to pour milk? and when the milk boils how to know?
AlenaT
Lena, the milk does not escape due to the double walls of the milk cooker,
filled with water.
And therefore it does not boil in the literal sense of the word, but languishes at a temperature
about 90-95 degrees.
You pour water into a milk cooker, pour milk, put it to boil.
The milk is considered to boil when the whistle starts to whistle.
You can wait another ten minutes for insurance and start cooking porridge.
I don't cook porridge in it, but just boil milk.
After the whistle, it languishes for at least 20-25 minutes.
AlenaT
Take a look at the topic of recipes for a milk cooker, there are even omelettes)))
helgoncha
Thank you! Are there any restrictions on the minimum amount of milk with a particular volume of milk cooker? I just cook porridge for the child from 200 ml of milk in total and 2 tablespoons of oatmeal. But at the same time, I want to be able to calmly, without standing at the stove, boil 1 liter of milk. How much volume should I take?
Taia
I took the milk cooker that we had on sale - 1.5 liters, there was no smaller one. And I only needed it for brewing herbs. But then, already in the presence of this vessel, it is more widely used. And now I am even glad that I have a big one; I cook porridge in it, cook cheese.
AlenaT
I also have one and a half.
200 g will completely boil.
Anna1957
Advise who is in the subject. I was going to make churchkhela, and there you need to cook a very thick jelly - for 1 liter of juice ~ 1 glass of flour along with starch. I used to do it in an ordinary saucepan - it was impossible to crank, I was afraid that it would burn. Nobody tried to cook thick jelly in a milk cooker? In time, it will probably take a very long time to brew.
julifera
Does thick honey count with sugar?
The induction instantly warmed up 500 g of honey + 300 g of sugar without adding any liquids.
Then, 300 grams of flour was added to the hot there - everything mixed perfectly, but not with a spoon, but with a powerful Fissman spatula - completely silicone.
I strongly advise you to interfere with it - it removes everything clean from the walls

Milk cooker - cooking in a water bath
Anna1957
Quote: julifera

Does thick honey count with sugar?
The induction instantly warmed up 500 g of honey + 300 g of sugar without adding any liquids.
Then, 300 grams of flour was added to the hot there - everything mixed perfectly, but not with a spoon, but with a powerful Fissman spatula - completely silicone.
I strongly advise you to interfere with it - it removes everything clean from the walls

Milk cooker - cooking in a water bath

I have already broken one shoulder blade - I pushed rye dough in the kneader, now I am afraid.
julifera
Is it this Fissman? Should I start to be afraid too?
True, if I have 4 of them
And I just kneaded rye dough in a milk cooker on honey
Anna1957
Quote: julifera

Is it this Fissman? Should I start to be afraid too?
True, if I have 4 of them
And I just kneaded rye dough in a milk cooker on honey

No, not like that. In Fink, I bought a brand name.
comeliy
I am grateful to everyone for valuable advice. Maybe my advice will be useful to someone. To pour water into a milk cooker I bought a 100 gram
an enema. My 1.5 liter milk cooker contains 400 ml of water. Convenient to measure and fill without problems.
Piano
I bought a milk cooker of the USSR for 3 liters, I ask for a proven recipe for condensed milk from owners of a similar
Mirabel
Yes, now you have to look for a milk cooker.
Tell me, if there is no whistle, will such a milk cooker work? It is called a "water bath pot". Small cavity between the two layers of the bottom and walls. you can somehow open it, pour water there and close it. well, pour milk into the saucepan itself.

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