juicy
Quote: Lozja

Yes, this tandem is also a good option! I see that just in little Phillips there are those graters that you still have to buy for Bosch - for potato pancakes and an average grater. If I saw correctly. Well, knives are a universal thing, which is difficult to do without, as it turned out in practice.
juicy, I thought to offer you such a tandem of harvesters (Phillips hides in a locker and gets it as needed), but together for the money - it will be more than 2 thousand.
We are waiting for someone else with harvesters.
I understood this Bosch Mum 4655, I found it for 1800 UAH ... that is, in principle, an affordable price ... but why do I need a meat grinder ???
Quote: Daffi

I can alternatively suggest a hand blender
Here I have something like it at home, only a simplified version, and another firm, and so the corolla broke after 3 minutes. continuous use .... so I don't want all these mini things anymore ... I want 1 good harvester!

so, now I will try again to write what I would like, maybe now my desires will fall under some single good harvester!
I want a blender + mixer, the ability to grate 1-2 carrots, a little onion, that is, small volumes. A meat grinder, as such, is not needed, nor is a juicer. Good power, metal. nozzles, not plastic with metal. knives (although maybe this is not so important, eh?).
Lozja
Quote: juicy

I understood this Bosch Mum 4655, I found it for 1800 UAH ... that is, in principle, an affordable price ... but why do I need a meat grinder ??? Here I have something like it at home, only a simplified version, and another firm, and so the corolla broke after 3 minutes. continuous use .... so I don't want all these mini things anymore ... I want 1 good harvester!

so, now I will try again to write what I would like, maybe now my desires will fall under some single good harvester!
I want a blender + mixer, the ability to grate 1-2 carrots, a little onion, that is, small volumes. A meat grinder, as such, is not needed, nor is a juicer. Good power, metal. nozzles, not plastic with metal. knives (although maybe this is not so important, eh?).

What does it mean - metal attachments? Unclear. Have you seen such somewhere or someone told you about them? I don't really understand what this is about yet.
You can grate half a carrot in any combine where there is a grater, but chop the onion only in those where there is a small chopper (such as Kenwood 270 or Brown K700). I see no obstacles to taking this Kenwood, which was advised to you in the store. It is more compact than my Brown and more powerful, but also more expensive, respectively. But she is not very strong in servicing different companies. If this point is significant, then you need to clarify.
Because you repeat your desires in different words, a planetary processor-type combine will not appear in nature. You need to decide what is more important to you - perfectly whipped proteins (although you were assured that this whisk does a good job too) or chopping-blending of all kinds of different products of all different volumes.
Something like this. We have already gone through the third circle, it seems to me.

And no, this is not Bosch Mum 4655 (there is a plastic bowl in it), but in the picture Bosch Mum 4675 (there is a metal bowl in it). And its power is 550 watts.
Lozja
I came up with another option for you, as an option. A small bowl with knives is sold separately for Boshikam Mumam as an attachment, but I can not find anywhere else about its capacity, how big it is. There are also graters included in the kit, so it costs a lot. I would have taken it for myself so that not to carry my Brown, but why are there graters and why pay for them, if they are sold with the combine itself - it's not clear. I don't want to pay for the graters that will lie in the closet.
In general, you can pick up a Bosch Mum model without a meat grinder (although why don't you need it? Do you have a separate electric meat grinder? It's the same thing!), Without a citrus press and buy this bowl with knives for it. And how did I forget about her ?!

Found it, 0.5 liters. That is, small, like a small bowl in Brown, even smaller. That is, you will have a small chopper. But you won't make curd filling in a glass. It means, not quite what we need.
juicy
Quote: Lozja

What does it mean - metal attachments? Unclear.
Well, in Boch, they have knives, a round plate, completely metal, but Brown, he only has the knives themselves, and the plate into which they are inserted is plastic, right ?? (but outwardly, what a handsome man he is)
Quote: Lozja

You can grate half a carrot in any combine where there is a grater, but chop the onion only in those where there is a small chopper (such as Kenwood 270 or Brown K700).
but this is a very weighty argument, thanks for it!

Quote: Lozja

And no, this is not Bosch Mum 4655 (there is a plastic bowl in it), but in the picture Bosch Mum 4675 (there is a metal bowl in it). And its power is 550 watts.
but yes, for sure ... so this one costs 1571 UAH!
Quote: Lozja

Found it, 0.5 liters. That is, small, like a small bowl in Brown, even smaller. That is, you will have a small chopper. But you won't make curd filling in a glass. It means, not quite what we need.
means either Kenwood or Brown! Now fine! Although Bosch Mum are very cute models! (yes, I don’t have a meat grinder, but as one of the most needed in a combine, I don’t enter it, that's all, but if there is, and even high-quality, it’s only +).
Lozja
Quote: juicy

Well, in Boch, they have knives, a round plate, completely metal, but Brown, he only has the knives themselves, and the plate into which they are inserted is plastic, right ??

Don't confuse a bowl with knives with a blender attachment! These are different things, I have already spoken about it! I even told examples of how the blender did not replace the bowl of knives for me. Read about cheesecake above.
And I honestly can't imagine how you can even make a crack on these attachments with knives, there is strong plastic, except to put a cabinet on it, nothing else comes to mind.
Daffi
You will have to compromise, because there is no harvester that has everything you want.

I want a blender + mixer, the ability to grate 1-2 carrots, a little onion, that is, small volumes. A meat grinder, as such, is not needed, nor is a juicer. Good power, metal. nozzles, not plastic with metal. knives (although, maybe this is not so important, eh?).

1. The blender in all combines (except for Brown K700) is intended only for whipping and mixing liquids. It performs its functions well, even a cream-like curd mass (in Bosch 4655) and pancake dough. But he won't make you a dough for a curd casserole!
2. In order to make a dough for a curd casserole, you need a bowl with universal knives, Bosch MUM does not have it. If purchased separately, it will cost more than UAH 500. + it will duplicate the same graters that you will already have in the harvester set. In addition, a bowl of small capacity, only 1.2 liters, that is, neither here nor there. Brown K700 has a bowl and has more volume!
3. It is possible to grate 1-2 carrots in Bosch MUM, but it gets boring to wash and dry later. Easier to rub on a hand grater.
4. In Bosch MUM there is no medium grater, only fine and coarse. To rub medium, you need to buy a disc for Julien and still it's not that!
5. It is better not to rub the onion, but chop it in a chopper, which is not available in Bosch MUM. But it is in Brown K700!
6. If you don't need a meat grinder, why are you looking at Bosch MUM? Meat can be finely chopped in a bowl with utility knives, which is in Brown K700!
7. There is no difference with what to rub: solid discs or plastic with a metal insert. The quality does not depend on it, it is tested on itself. The only good thing about all-metal discs is that they are easier to clean. But on the other hand, the white parts of the universal cut will be all orange. White plastic stains when you rub carrots or beets, you need to wipe it off with a cotton swab with vegetable oil!

The universal cutting in BOSCH MUM is more suitable not for daily use, but for large volumes. In the summer, making preparations is a sweet thing. At the same time, the holes in the discs are not the most successful: a large grater is too large, and a small one is too small. There is no average, instead of it you can adjust a disc for Julien, but this is not the same as a disc with medium holes, I now know this, because I can compare it with how the Philips 7605 rubs. That is, BOSCH MUM is not at all universal in sense of rubbing, I think so.

If I were in your place, I would not get hung up on whipping whites, but bought something that I will use every day - Brown K700. Buy a whisk for it and beat the whites. I really do not quite understand how often and in what quantity you need to beat the whites.

juicy
Quote: Lozja

Don't confuse a bowl with knives with a blender attachment! These are different things, I have already spoken about it! I even told examples of how the blender did not replace the bowl of knives for me. Read about cheesecake above.
And I honestly can't imagine how you can even make a crack on these attachments with knives, there is strong plastic, except to put a cabinet on it, nothing else comes to mind.
yeah, so this fact is not taken into account at all ... so, what kind of combine then ... Brown or Kenwood ???
you are my angel, in choosing a harvester, I can't imagine how I myself could have reduced the choice to 3 companies

Quote: Daffi

You will have to make a compromise because there is no harvester that has everything you want.
everyone, Bosch dropped out .. thank you
But what about Kenwood? its main disadvantage only in the service in your opinion?
Daffi
I do not know where you are going to buy, but here is the price for Brown K 700
I would not overpay 250 UAH. for a citrus juicer, an additional 50 watts of power and a metal bowl. But this is just my opinion, you may not agree

More versatile, of course, Brown, because it combines the most necessary things:
1.large bowl with utility knives, in which you can make minced meat, make pate, dough for curd casserole, knead dough, chop fruit
2.a chopper (aka blender), in which a small volume will allow you to chop garlic, herbs, 1-2 onions, make cocktails, cottage cheese desserts and more
3. graters and shredders, whose holes are not as huge as in Boch
4. citrus juicer
5.whisk or ladder with which you can whip cream or whites
Lozja
Quote: juicy

yeah, so this fact is not taken into account at all ... so, what kind of combine then ... Brown or Kenwood ???
you are my angel, in choosing a harvester, I can't imagine how I myself could have reduced the choice to 3 companies

It hardly made it easier.

Bosch was weeded out. Now think between two processors - Brown and Kenwood. The rest do not have a small chopper, so we will not consider them.

If you decide for yourself a question with the Kenwood service, then take it, it is more compact and more powerful, and there is already a whisk, which you need, you will not need to buy it. But it is also more expensive.

And Daffi is absolutely right, I use Brown every day, I don't use Bosch every day.
Daffi
Why are you so in love with Kenwood? He has a bowl of 2.1 liters, only 2 speeds, juicers that you do not need, but it costs like an airplane.
In 250 models, there were problems with chafing, they complained that the non-rubbed remains fall out into the bowl with the already shabby one, because the diameter of the disc is less than the diameter of the bowl. The grinder does not properly grind the coffee.

Power is just tsiferki, they count these powers at random. It may well turn out that 750 watts at Kenwood is worse than 600 watts at Brown. In addition, Brown is quieter because it has a belt drive rather than a gear drive.

I vote for Brown K700, only then don't hit me
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

Why are you so in love with Kenwood? He has a bowl of 2.1 liters, only 2 speeds, juicers that you do not need, but it costs like an airplane.
In 250 models, there were problems with chafing, they complained that the non-rubbed remains fall out into the bowl with the already shabby one, because the diameter of the disc is less than the diameter of the bowl. The grinder does not properly grind the coffee.

Power is just tsiferki, they count these powers at random. It may well turn out that 750 watts at Kenwood is worse than 600 watts at Brown. In addition, Brown is quieter because it has a belt drive rather than a gear drive.

I vote for Brown K700, only then don't hit me

All right, now I also vote for Brown! You will definitely not regret it. I have never regretted for 4 years of use. If it were not for the daily kneading of bread dough, then I would have loved only my Brown completely.
Do you like him? Take it. Order yourself the desired whisk and even with that invest in 1.5 thousand and you will not regret it.
Gibus
Quote: juicy

Well, in Boch, they have knives, a round plate, completely metal, while Brown has only the knives themselves, and the plate into which they are inserted is plastic, right ??
This plastic plate, where the graters are inserted, is very thick and strong in Brown! Moreover, all-metal discs, with inept use, can probably be bent (if you clog the hole for the products and press them onto the pusher), and the Brown grater holder is inflexible. The only "inconvenience" is the need to insert / remove the grater. By the way, graters from a Brown blender are also suitable for this holder - I bought two more: julienne type and for Korean carrots.

Lozja, and butter is whipped well with a knife, into a fluffy white mass? I'll have to try. Recently I got carried away with classic Gost muffins, and there you need to beat the butter very carefully.

In general, the majority of votes for Brown :) Time-tested! Brown K3000 would be available, I would recommend it - there are generally 3 different bowls. But, alas, it is not supplied to us ...
Daffi
Quote: Lozja

All right, now I also vote for Brown! You will definitely not regret it. I have never regretted for 4 years of use. If it were not for the daily kneading of bread dough, then I would have loved only my Brown completely.
Do you like him? Take it. Order yourself the desired whisk and even with that invest in 1.5 thousand and you will not regret it.
Brown white costs 1200 UAH with something I can’t vouch for Technotochka 100%, but 3 years ago I took a Panasonic bread maker from them, this year Brown 530 and mini-Philips also took them from them. Everything was fine, t-t-t

Brown K3000 seems to have been removed from production, but of course it is super!

Before buying, you need to find out which model, in what configuration and at what price the online store is selling. Brown produces three similar models: K700, K750 and K700 Vital.
An online store can:
1. put a photo from a more expensive model, the name from an expensive model, and as a result bring a cheaper one for this photo
2.Can unknowingly confuse model names
3. can write the name and price from a cheaper model, and put a photo from a road in which the equipment is richer.

In short, they can cheat, you need to know everything exactly
Daffi
Quote: juicy

That's it, 99.9% I will order Brown ... as I understand it, there is no particular difference between 3 Brown models?
ALL, ALL, MANY THANKS FOR WORK IN WRITING ADVICE AND RECOMMENDATIONS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME !!!
Well, there is no difference when there is. Different models have different attachments. Some have two juicers, some have a whisk and a shredder with adjustable thickness of slices. That is why I say that you should know exactly what you will buy.

There are people on the Yandex market who are not entirely satisfied with this model. You did not answer in what quantities and how often you beat the whites. maybe you need to beat 10 proteins at once, so Brown K 700 will not work for this. According to the instructions, you can beat from 2 to 6 proteins, that is, you will not beat one protein either.

And they completely lost sight of the Boshi (who cuts into cubes) and the Philips, they are also very much nothing. They do not have a small chopper, but they have a full-fledged stationary blender. If you like cocktails, then a food processor with a blender is more suitable. You can always buy a separate shredder, it costs 300 UAH.

In addition, the Bosches have a nozzle that makes mashed berries or potatoes, maybe you need this?
juicy
Quote: Daffi

Well, there is no difference when there is.Different models have different attachments. Some have two juicers, some have a whisk and a shredder with adjustable thickness of slices. That is why I say that you should know exactly what you will buy.
yeah thanks!
Quote: Daffi

You did not answer in what quantities and how often you beat the whites. maybe you need to beat 10 proteins at once, so Brown K 700 will not work for this. According to the instructions, you can beat from 2 to 6 proteins, that is, you will not beat one protein either.
these are the limits that suit me perfectly!

Quote: Daffi

And they completely lost sight of the Boshi (who cuts into cubes) and the Philips, they are also very much nothing. They do not have a small chopper, but they have a full-fledged stationary blender. If you like cocktails, then a food processor with a blender is more suitable. You can always buy a separate shredder, it costs 300 UAH.
In addition, the Bosches have a nozzle that makes mashed berries or potatoes, maybe you need this?
I do not lose sight of any firm ... I have printed all the firms and models in the price category that suits me, BUT, because real and practical advice is given only on 3 models, so I dance from them!
Quote: Daffi

In addition, the Bosches have a nozzle that makes mashed berries or potatoes, maybe you need this?
oo ... and why did I also find out this ... maybe it should))))
I understood .... the ideal harvester for me is Brown K-3000!
Daffi
Quote: juicy

I understood .... the ideal harvester for me is Brown K-3000!
Such a combine is no longer and will not be, so let's choose from what we have.

The biggest drawback of expensive food processors is their lack of versatility. Necessarily something is missing, how to give a drink. Large harvesters are rarely used, while you collect them, while you wash them, while you sort them out .... the whole thing.

Buy a Philips 7605, like mine, and you will be happy. Phillips 7605 You will also chop the meat for minced meat, and make dough for pancakes and rub carrots with medium slices and chop cabbage for borscht, and make potato pancakes. And it costs only 450 UAH. He can do a lot of things, not without reason Chadeyka praised him, she has a previous version of this model.

If you need to whisk from 2 to 6 proteins, a simple hand mixer for 250-300 UAH will do the best. from a trusted manufacturer (Philips, Electrolux, Gorene). He will make shortbread or muffin dough for you. And for yeast and dumplings, buy a bread maker, all the same you were going

If it seems that the bowl of the combine is very large, then buy some kind of Bosch grinder for 300 UAH or a Philips immersion blender with a grinder and there will be order.

I don't use Bosch often, but I use Phillips all the time, then grate carrots in Korean, then chop something. In general, I advised that I could, now decide for yourself

Ukka
Quote: juicy

called there, now they will find out if it is available ... (I hope so)
God grant !!!
I liked it too, but now I am quite satisfied with my Bosch 4427 and Gamma ...
nusya
Girls, what can you say about Moulinex Master chef, capacity 1000. There is a meat grinder. Attracted by the price of 1600 hryvnia, but never faced with cartoons
juicy
Quote: Lozja

Did I miss something? Why do you need this particular model? There is no small chopper in it, judging by what he writes on that site. Thus, any combine processor will suit you. Or is there infa wrong?
I think the info is not complete ... and they freeze .... in short, I'm still thinking hard for Brown K700!
Lozja
Quote: juicy

I think the info is not complete ... and they freeze .... in short, I'm still thinking hard for Brown K700!

Yes, I have already googled and found the full info. Cool harvester! As if the elder brother of my Brownie, more experienced and respectable. It's a pity that he is not there anywhere.
juicy
Yesterday I talked with a friend, it turns out she has a harvester, Kenwood ... she said that she chose it precisely because of the glass blender, since plastic ones become cloudy over time, that is, from pieces of ice, for example, or frozen milk , the plastic is scratched and clouded, and when washed with washcloths, too, over time ...it's true? and that the same plastic plates where knives are inserted are also solid metal, and that the same frozen pieces of meat will not scratch it! But in it, the juicer is completely hopeless, and you shouldn't even open it, because it is very weak!
Daffi
You are not thinking about that at all. Any plastic is scratched, and transparent plastic becomes a little cloudy because of this. So what? This does not affect functionality in any way. This is what my food processor blender looks like. He is 7.
Food processor

If you choose a combine, thinking only that the plastic will get scratched over time, then you will never buy it as a result! Because all combines are plastic and they all have transparent bowls. You better think about the fact that in Kenwood you will pay money for a juicer that you will not use. Rather than buying such a Kenwood for 1800 UAH, it's better to buy a Bosch that cuts into cubes, honestly.

Or buy a Bosch MUM with a metal bowl and glass blender and admire them if you are so afraid of scratches. Do you know how they say: "Do you want to go or checkers?" You will decide what you need: a harvester that you will admire and which will not be scratched. At the same time, you will not use half of the functions, because they are bad. Or do you want a combine that will be a workhorse with all the ensuing consequences, such as scratches and a slight haze of plastic!
*** yana ***
Quote: nusya

Girls, what can you say about Moulinex Master chef, capacity 1000. There is a meat grinder. Attracted by the price of 1600 hryvnia, but never faced with cartoons
Moulinex has been working for me from this series (TTT) for 20 years. only 65 more ... he survived the brown multiquick and the Phillips cousin, and the Bosch cube was presented two years ago, so I did not adapt to it ... I gave it to my daughter ..... and the mulik is still working. I even sharpened a meat knife for the first time ...
Lozja
Quote: juicy

Lozja, tell me, will a thick brown dough pull ??? or rather not even dough, but a thick mass ???

Knives pull almost anything you put on them! And the power of the combine itself is enough for a dense mass. For example, I even make dough for oatmeal cookies in Brown, and there is such a mass, sho wow! Or on a cake-potato (on cookies which) - there is also a very thick mass, it's hard to interfere with your hands, Brown copes. It's just that on such very tight masses, I try not to twist for a very long time, so that the combine engine does not load too much.
And what exactly did you mean by the thick mass? Maybe we're talking about different things?

By the way, the other day we decided to stick dumplings with my mother for holy evening. For 2 minutes, we thought that it’s faster and easier - to knead the dough with our hands or take out Brown, already packed in a box and pushed into the bedroom closet, and .... climbed into the closet to get the box. Mom is really crazy when I knead a homogeneous tight dough into dumplings in 1 minute. That's it, no way without Brown.
juicy
Thank you!!! Now find this Brown!
I'm talking about a thick mass, that is, about homemade cheese, which is mixed from the mass obtained by boiling milk and adding cottage cheese there, and then filter the resulting mass and mix it with eggs and butter! A thick mass turns out!
Lozja
Quote: juicy

Thank you!!! Now find this Brown!
I'm talking about a thick mass, that is, about homemade cheese, which is mixed from the mass obtained by boiling milk and adding cottage cheese there, and then filter the resulting mass and mix it with eggs and butter! A thick mass turns out!

And, I spoke about the masses much denser than what you have told. Your version generally pulls the knives without any questions. Grinds into a homogeneous mass, you will like it.
We also don't have it in stock now. What, nowhere?
juicy
Quote: Lozja

And, I spoke about the masses much denser than what you have told. Your version generally pulls the knives without any questions. Grinds into a homogeneous mass, you will like it.
We also don't have it in stock now. And what, nowhere?
nope ... well, those Internet shops that are in Dnepropetrovsk do not have them))) even in Eldoradi and Komfi))))
Never mind, from Tuesday I'll start terrorizing them again)))
Timur
Connoisseurs, help with the choice, please!
Brown K 700
Moulinex Masterchef 659 or 656
Or Phillips (I don't know which model), maybe 7775 ???
Sofim
Timur,
first of all, decide what functions you need, what you will do more often on the combine. There are no ideal harvesters, you need to choose the functions "for yourself".
Timur
Quote: Sofim

Timur,
first of all, decide what functions you need, what you will do more often on the combine. There are no ideal harvesters, you need to choose the functions "for yourself".
And which of these models is better, you can't say ??? Yes???
I need a quality whisk for whipping proteins, a cocktail blender, a good kneader, preferably a juicer for hard vegetables and fruits .... and a chopper!
Lozja
Quote: Timur

Connoisseurs, help with the choice, please!
Brown K 700
Moulinex Masterchef 659 or 656
Or Phillips (I don't know which model), maybe 7775 ???

They are all the same type - with a processor bowl.

I don’t know how in terms of quality and performance (I can only judge about Brown out of these three), I’ll say about the attachments:

+ Brown - a small bowl-blender-chopper, + there is also a centrifugal juicer for solid products.
+ Mulinexa - normal corolla;
+ Phillips 7775 - again the whisk is normal, well, the juicer is full-fledged, as far as I understood from the picture.

And the rest, if you do not take into account the power and speed, they are similar, the same graters in fact, shredders, knives and all that.
Philips and Moulinex are more powerful than Brown, they are 1000 W each, Brown is 600 W.

If you don't need a small shredder in terms of power, then I would take Philips.
Lozja
Quote: Timur

And which of these models is better, you can't say ??? Yes???
I need a quality whisk for whipping proteins, a cocktail blender, a good kneader, preferably a juicer for hard vegetables and fruits .... and a chopper!

I don't know how the dough is kneaded in Philipes.
Timur
Quote: Lozja

They are all the same type - with a processor bowl.

I don’t know how in terms of quality and performance (I can only judge about Brown out of these three), I’ll say about the attachments:

+ Brown - a small bowl-blender-chopper, + there is also a centrifuge juicer for solid products.
+ Mulinexa - normal corolla;
+ Phillips 7775 - again the whisk is normal, well, the juicer is full-fledged, as far as I understood from the picture.

And the rest, if you do not take into account the power and speed, they are similar, the same graters in fact, shredders, knives and all that.
Philips and Moulinex are more powerful than Brown, they are 1000 W each, Brown is 600 W.

If you don't need a small shredder in terms of power, then I would take Philips.
power of course big makes me happy ... but what is a small chopper and what does it do ???
Lozja
Quote: Timur

power of course big makes me happy ... but what is a small chopper and what does it do ???

This is a small bowl with knives in Brown (look at the picture of Brown in the combine on the left). This is called a blender, but by and large it is more of a chopper for small quantities of food. The usual attachment - a blender, which is standard in other combines, does not fully replace it. It is needed when there is a need to chop one onion, for example, or a handful of nuts. In such cases, it is irreplaceable.

For example, I tried to grind a glass of cranberries in a blender that is screwed to my Bosch. I unpacked these cranberries all along the walls of the blender, barely collected them in a heap later. And in this small Brown bowl it is done neatly by means of straight two knives, as in a large bowl.
Lozja
But do not bother too much, many live without this grinder in their harvester, and do not suffer, they buy a blender with a grinder at the extreme. It's just that I got used to it for 4 years, now I feel its lack in the kitchen. But this is not critical.
An ordinary blender will also cope with many tasks, but what will not cope with - there is a large bowl with knives.

I looked at this Philips, good! Honestly! And a centrifugal juicer, and a whisk, and the dough should be kneaded, in principle, there is a nozzle, in general, everything as you wanted.
Somehow Moulinex doesn't inspire, I don't know why. And Phillips inspires. Plus it is twice as compact as my Brown, it won't take up much space.Take Philips! And let him do all the work for you!
Timur
Quote: Lozja

But do not bother too much, many live without this grinder in their harvester, and do not suffer, they buy a blender with a grinder at the extreme. It's just that I got used to it for 4 years, now I feel its lack in the kitchen. But this is not critical.
An ordinary blender will also cope with many tasks, but what will not cope with - there is a large bowl with knives.

I looked at this Philips, good! Honestly! And a centrifugal juicer, and a whisk, and the dough should be kneaded, in principle, there is a nozzle, in general, everything as you wanted.
Somehow Moulinex doesn't inspire, I don't know why. And Phillips inspires. Plus it is twice as compact as my Brown, it won't take up much space. Take Philips! And let him do all the work for you!
I was in the store, I saw Brown and Moulinex live .... Philips, unfortunately, was not there ... the consultant advised me between these two Moulinex!

But if you choose between Phillips and Brown, in your opinion, which one is better? and will Philips cope with a small number of products ??? beat there, cut ... and so on ... because it is larger in volume !!!
Lozja
Quote: Timur

I was in the store, I saw Brown and Moulinex live .... Philips, unfortunately, was not there ... the consultant advised me between these two Moulinex!

But if you choose between Phillips and Brown, in your opinion, which one is better? and will Philips cope with a small number of products ??? beat there, cut ... and so on ... because it is larger in volume !!!

For small quantities, Philips has a blender, it can just scatter products on the walls, this is a problem for all blenders of this type.
Well I have already chosen for you and wrote my recommendation above. Phillips is more powerful, more compact, it has a good whisk. A centrifugal juicer is included in both of these combines. But there is no Moulinex.
As for the consultants in the stores - how many people, so many opinions. I'm just tired of arguing with the opinion of store consultants in this Temko. At least take it and keep quiet to yourself. After all, I want to help, but in response constantly "and the consultant in the store said to take this." So you decide and listen to someone alone, so there will be more sense - either here or a consultant.
Good luck with your choice! I give up.
Rina
Believe me, consultants in stores advise on what they were told "from above". There is a set - to promote such and such a brand, so they will promote. And if they do not offer you and do not tell you that this brand is the most-the-most-raspresamaya, then it may turn out that you are a dummy buyer and deduct points in the evaluation of the work. In stores in Russia, they encountered this when bread makers of the type of a German company were promoted. With us, I came across this when the sellers began to advise the mulinexes with great enthusiasm. There was a period, the Kenwoods advised ...

"Consultants" often do not even really understand the kitchen equipment they sell. We already have more than one story about how our members of the forum explained to sellers what kind of equipment they are selling, what is "that pimp" for, and what can be done with this technique at all.
Timur
Quote: Lozja

For small quantities, Philips has a blender, it can just scatter products on the walls, this is a problem for all blenders of this type.
Well I have already chosen for you and wrote my recommendation above. Phillips is more powerful, more compact, it has a good whisk. A centrifugal juicer is included in both of these combines. But there is no Moulinex.
As for the consultants in the stores - how many people, so many opinions. I'm just tired of arguing with the opinion of store consultants in this Temko. At least take it and keep quiet to yourself. After all, I want to help, but in response constantly "and the consultant in the store said to take this." So you decide and listen to someone alone, so there will be more sense - either here or a consultant.
Good luck with your choice! I give up.
well, well, well ... no, don’t leave, how can you do without your advice ... definitely your opinion and advice is important, very ...
I just want to buy a good, high-quality thing that will be an assistant)!
That is, your advice between Brown and Phillips, Phillips is better, right ??? Another would be to look at it live)
Lozja
Quote: Timur

well well well...no, do not leave, how can you do without your advice ... definitely your opinion and advice is important, very ...
I just want to buy a good, high-quality thing that will be an assistant)!
That is, your advice between Brown and Phillips, Phillips is better, right ??? Another would be to look at it live)

It's just more powerful, more compact than Brown and has a normal corolla. This is the whole difference between them.

As for the consultants, somewhere I agree. Now this is what sellers are called, their task is to sell. Although 4 years ago I came across a consultant girl in a store where I chose a food processor for myself, and I am still grateful to her that she recommended Brown to me among other combines of this type. The choice was not very rich then, but this Brown was different from everyone else with this grinder. She very sensibly explained to me what is its advantage over blenders in other combines. She said she had Brown like that at home, so she knows what she's talking about. I am very lucky to have a knowledgeable consultant!
Now there are few of them. I actually read how the girls explain to the consultants that they have this on their shelf and why it is - I just go nuts. In general, here is how anyone is lucky to meet an intelligent consultant. And plus, the consultant is guided only by the assortment that they currently have in the store. And he would also advise you Brown, which is much cheaper than Mulinex. Is he a fool, or what? This is his salary - a percentage of the amount of goods sold.
Timur
Quote: Lozja

It's just more powerful, more compact than Brown and has a normal corolla. This is the whole difference between them.
If these are their only differences .... then I take Phillips)) Thank you!
and the universal knife chopper is there and there, right ???
Lozja
Quote: Timur

If these are their only differences .... then I take Phillips)) Thank you!
and the universal knife chopper is there and there, right ???

Yes, knives are the main and most versatile tool of such combines, they are everywhere.
juicy
Quote: Lozja

Have you bought it yet? I thought you were already using it with might and main.
I need to YOU ​​!!!
Yeah, I bought them ..... I got them for all these days, they told me after 10.01 .... yesterday they called me, they said the car with the goods did not arrive ... on the way (it’s not fate, I purchase of a combine)
Lozja
Quote: juicy

I need to YOU ​​!!!
Yeah, I bought them ..... I got them for all these days, they told me after 10.01 .... yesterday they called me, they said the car with the goods did not arrive ... on the way (it’s not fate, I purchase of a combine)

Is this about Brown? We haven't seen Brown for a long time either.
juicy
Quote: Lozja

Is this about Brown? We haven't seen Brown for a long time either.
yeah .... about him))))
Lozja
Quote: juicy

yeah .... about him))))

Remind me why we went back to Brown from Phillips?
juicy
Quote: Lozja

Remind me why we went back to Brown from Phillips?
but we specifically did not consider Phillips)))) or maybe because I wanted up to UAH 1500! Here!
juicy
Quote: Lozja

How can I help? Already decided like. It remains only to find.
so decided something ??? wait for Brown or buy Philips ???
Lozja
Quote: juicy

so decided something ??? wait for Brown or buy Philips ???

So Phillips is more expensive. Now, if you reminded me why we finally leaned towards Brown, then I might have answered. Search-re-read all the time is not present.
juicy
Quote: Lozja

So Phillips is more expensive. Now, if you reminded me why we finally leaned towards Brown, then I might have answered. Search-re-read all the time is not present.
we didn’t consider this phillips at all, because I planned up to UAH 1500, and now (after the holidays) I can afford this too .... so I want an expert opinion, WHAT IS BETTER, I’ll take it !!!

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